Will the AT&T Tilt/8925 have the HTC Home screen? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

The HTC Home screen with the giant lcd-looking clock, and the quick access to programs, weather, contacts, ringer?
And what about finger scrolling and panning?

KCMatt said:
The HTC Home screen with the giant lcd-looking clock, and the quick access to programs, weather, contacts, ringer?
And what about finger scrolling and panning?
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Yes it does. This is answered in other threads titled "Touch flo" or something similar.

I'm speaking to the AT&T version specifically.
Forgive me if I missed it, but I haven't found anything that says it will have these two features, which are present on the HTC-branded Tytn II. The screenshots on modaco.com do not show an HTC home screen, either.
Can you please confirm?

Okay,according to Paul at modaco.com the AT&T Tilt/8925
WILL have Touchflo (finger scrolling and panning) and
WILL NOT have the HTC home screen (big clock, shortcuts).

KCMatt said:
Okay,according to Paul at modaco.com the AT&T Tilt/8925
WILL have Touchflo (finger scrolling and panning) and
WILL NOT have the HTC home screen (big clock, shortcuts).
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Is there a way to get HTC Home Screen without changing roms?

javisan23 said:
Is there a way to get HTC Home Screen without changing roms?
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Yes just install the .cab. you can find it in the hermes area.

What about the Windows Live software? I heard that AT&T wasn't including that with their stock ROM.

kettch said:
What about the Windows Live software? I heard that AT&T wasn't including that with their stock ROM.
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Same situation. If the ATT rom doesn't include it you can download the .cab file from the hermes area or wait until it's posted here. I use several programs and add ons that the ATT rom doesn't include but it's pretty easy to just install these my self once I have the basic rom set up.

can someone please post the cab file? i cant find it in the Hermes section.

you can find it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332438

Being that you can get rid of bloatware and install cabs for missing programs you want on a tilt, is there still a big advantage to flashing (speed or otherwise)?

cutoffcirc said:
Being that you can get rid of bloatware and install cabs for missing programs you want on a tilt, is there still a big advantage to flashing (speed or otherwise)?
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Trying out both at&t shipped compare to some HTC roms, speed isn't too much different. I skip the customization in the beginning, and I get a pretty decent rom. Seems a tiny bit more stable than HTC roms.

HTC home screen 6 button
Here is the HTC home screen with six buttons.

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Please help: 'HTC Homescreen' Confusion

I'm a windows mobile newbie and wasn't able to find the answer performing a forum search, so hoping someone here might be able to help me clear up my confusion between: 'HTC Homescreen', 'HTC homescreen plugin', and 'HTCHomeplug'.
When I go to: Start > Settings > Personal Tab > Today > Items Tab . . . both 'HTC Home' & 'HTCHomeplug' appear as items of which can be checked/unchecked.
It's my understanding that the Tilt includes only the at&t version of the HTC homescreen (today), and that changing it to look like the original Kaiser's requires installing an 'HTC homescreen plugin'. After installing a 'HTC homescreen plugin', 'HTC HTC Home' now appears in the Tilt's 'Remove Programs' option list: Start > Settings > System > Remove Programs.
Questions:
1) If the "HTC HTC Home" program is removed, will the (today) homescreen then revert back to the at&t version of the homescreen again? If not, how (short of performing a hard reset) can the at&t version be reinstalled again?
2) Is it also recommended that "HTC HTC Home" be removed BEFORE installing any subsequent 'HTC homescreen' plugins?
3) In addition, it's my understanding that the 'HTCHomeplug' merely displays icons for battery level & screen orientation so pretty much redundant to include on the Today Screen, as these functions are already included in the available 5/6 tab HTC homescreen plugins. Are there any special functions/features in the 'HTCHomeplug' not avaialble in an 'HTC Homescreen' plugin?
Thanks for all feedback and advice.
Jazz
I think you are a little bit mixed up, or at least I was reading that.
The one that comes with the Tilt: "HTCHomeplug"
The one that comes with the Kaiser: "HTC Home"
The HTCHomeplug cannot be un-installed thru Start>settings>remove programs. The only way the remove the HTCHomeplug is to either manually delete the files or install a cooked ROM.
To answer your first question, the HTCHomeplug is not dependent on the HTC Home add-on whatsoever. If you remove the HTC Home add-on it will not revert back to the HTCHomeplug unless you tell it to. The HTCHomeplug can be displayed at any time, even if HTC Home is installed, they 2 completely separate programs.
marm0lade,
Yep, apparently I was 'completely' mixed up about all that, so a great big thanks to you for straightening me out with the clear explanation.
Now, if I can only get my (6 tab) HTC Home plugin's: pic-touch call feature (home screen tab: 2nd to left) to link to another phone number in the contact's list other than their 'mobile phone number. Is this simply a problem only with the version of HTC Homescreen I installed, or is this a universal limitation of all 'HTC home' plugins?
Jazz
jazzman-t said:
marm0lade,
Yep, apparently I was 'completely' mixed up about all that, so a great big thanks to you for straightening me out with the clear explanation.
Now, if I can only get my (6 tab) HTC Home plugin's: pic-touch call feature (home screen tab: 2nd to left) to link to another phone number in the contact's list other than their 'mobile phone number. Is this simply a problem only with the version of HTC Homescreen I installed, or is this a universal limitation of all 'HTC home' plugins?
Jazz
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The newest version of HTC Home(version 2.0) supports selecting a different number.
You can get it here.
jazzman-t said:
marm0lade,
Yep, apparently I was 'completely' mixed up about all that, so a great big thanks to you for straightening me out with the clear explanation.
Now, if I can only get my (6 tab) HTC Home plugin's: pic-touch call feature (home screen tab: 2nd to left) to link to another phone number in the contact's list other than their 'mobile phone number. Is this simply a problem only with the version of HTC Homescreen I installed, or is this a universal limitation of all 'HTC home' plugins?
Jazz
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I don't know about linking directly to another number, but if you click and hold on the contact, it will open their entry in the contact list, allowing you to choose a different number (or send sms/mms/email).
johanromijn said:
The newest version of HTC Home(version 2.0) supports selecting a different number.
You can get it here.
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Johnanromijn, many thanks dude. Installed it and the pic-touch tel number selection feature works perfectly now.
Jazz
jazzman-t said:
Johnanromijn, many thanks dude. Installed it and the pic-touch tel number selection feature works perfectly now.
Jazz
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I just discovered that myself and was heading back here to update my post... it works great!
ok dumb question here...
i have a the tilt ver. and was thinking of getting the htc home theme i guess you would call it. i dont want to flash my rom, so is it just a cab or no?
grandsuke said:
ok dumb question here...
i have a the tilt ver. and was thinking of getting the htc home theme i guess you would call it. i dont want to flash my rom, so is it just a cab or no?
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As a PocketPC Phone & WM newbie with very much to discover & learn from the experts here about cooked Roms etc, I too opted not to flash my Tilt's rom (yet) either. On the other hand, I removed all at&t bloatware, and thus freeing up LOTS of on board memory, by performing a hard reset, and then pressing the reset button during the 3 second countdown, right before the at&t bloatware gets installed.
After that, I got 'HTC Home' d/l link (here) of which also includes two other cab files (Cert_SPCS & sdcerts) to utilize only if you have installation problems. Because I had no problems, I only needed to copy the "Kaiser.HTC.Home.v2.0.814.722-schen.cab" Cab file to the tilt, and then use the file browser point to the cab and install it. After installing, I performed a soft reset, and now have both an impressive looking & customizable HTC Home screen. This version of "HTC Home" is definitely a keeper.
Jazz.
sooo...does this mean i can just install a htc theme over everything else? or do i have to do the hard rest/soft/etc etc?
grandsuke said:
sooo...does this mean i can just install a htc theme over everything else? or do i have to do the hard rest/soft/etc etc?
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Grandsuke: unlike the HTC Kaiser, the Tilt doesn't come preloaded with "HTC Home" , so if you've not installed it on your Tilt before, go ahead & simply install without a hard/soft reset. For people who've already installed another version of "HTC Home" on their Tilt, I'd recommend removing it first, then perform a soft reset, and then reinstall the new version of "HTC Home". Jazz
Can this be used on other HTC or WM5 products like the Cingular 3125 (Star 100) which is the smartphone edition?

ToucFlo on Tmo rom?

I have just gone from using an MDA (Wizard) to a Wing. The only thing I'm really missing is what I think is called touchflo, ie, the today screen that has the time really big, or picture dialing, or weather, or apps. Can I install this on the phone, or do I need to get a custom rom? I'm liking (so far 12 hours into it) the tmo rom, after adding batterystatus and totalcommander etc, it's running smooth.
What you're talking about isint "touchflo". You're talking about "HTC home" it sounds like. There are .cabs on here for HTC home, just search for it.
TylerC161 said:
What you're talking about isint "touchflo". You're talking about "HTC home" it sounds like. There are .cabs on here for HTC home, just search for it.
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Perfect, thanks, I'll begin hunting.

Did AT&T hide or remove the touch flo feature?

O.K. I purchased the AT&T Tilt because I liked the wm6 device with the Touch flo aspect and home screen with the digital clock... so where is it? Did at&t remove it when they locked it?
hang yourself.
LOL........
LMAO!!!! To the OP, you need to research some more. Look up Kaiser Tweak if you want to turn Touch Flo back on. I think there may be a cab somewhere that puts the icon back in as well, but Kaiser Tweark or Schaps Advanced Config will work for you.
Essentially yes AT&T did remove it.
What you're talking about comes with the Official HTC Rom. But don't give up hope check out the wiki about cubes and ROM flashing.
Remeber to do searches first before posting. The only reason I'm answering is because I was where you are once. I felt overwhelmed.
mr.wildpig said:
O.K. I purchased the AT&T Tilt because I liked the wm6 device with the Touch flo aspect and home screen with the digital clock... so where is it? Did at&t remove it when they locked it?
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As a few of our Senior Members already "hinted", you need to do a little more research.
TouchFlo is actually in the at&t Rom but the interface to disable sound is removed. Kaiser Tweak will allow you to manipulate the settings (including sensitivity).
FWIW, WM6 Pro does not have a Home Screen that is what the Standard version (no touchscreen) has. Pro uses a "Today" screen, I know what's the diff right but technically you are talking about something else.
If you liked the look of the large digital clock like is displayed on the wiki page reference images then that is not a WM6 thing but rather a HTC thing called HTC Home plug-in.
Please do yourself a faver and spend some time reading the wiki & the stickies.

TouchFLO 3D Theme Customizer

Now that we're seeing different colors and designs for the TouchFLO 3D Home screen today plug-in on different versions of the Touch Diamond, if anyone is planning on making a theme customizer that we can use to change these at will...
Please make it extensible enough so that other future and existing applications can be added and changed as well.
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392184
adamz said:
Now that we're seeing different colors and designs for the TouchFLO 3D Home screen today plug-in on different versions of the Touch Diamond, if anyone is planning on making a theme customizer that we can use to change these at will...
Please make it extensible enough so that other future and existing applications can be added and changed as well.
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392184
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AFAIK, there are no ROMs for the branded devices available... When those become available, it'll be far easier to allow for skinning.
How about a project to adapt the remaining Windows Mobile "design look" into the Touchflo3D GUI? Of course tweaking performance at the same time to compensate for it as much as possible.
Moved thread to the general Diamond Section
mrvanx said:
Moved thread to the general Diamond Section
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I was wondering whether to do that... These forums seem to be some of the cleanest (device wise) so keep up the moderating
If and when someone gets there hands on an operator branded device (or an operator ROM), I'll try and work out how the customization takes place...
Agreed.
I would love it if there was something extensible like Schap's Advanced Config, where anyone could customize an XML file or something and have the application load Skin/Theme options (like HTC Home Customizer does) for other applications (including TouchFLO 3D).
So like a hybrid between HTC Home Customizer which will load the proper image files/etc. to the proper places based on what you choose... and the Advanced Config program where you can add custom options by editing an XML file.
Doesn't that sound like a great tool for changing theme/skins for all of these applications?
I would LOVE to reorder the TouchFLO 3D Tabs at least!!!
I would love to change the color of my TF3D theme from o2 but keeping my german version!
When I recieve my XDA I can provide you with the included ROM but the delivery date is delayed.
I'm getting a T-Mob compact IV, dumping the ROM (assuming it's not already done by someone else by then) is near the top of my to-do list.
Anyone who's seen T-Mob's version of TF3D will understand my wish help the progress of a theme customiser!!!
2+ more weeks to go... :-(
Does it all mean that maybe one day it will be possible to add some other items to the TF3D??
I am desperately looking for an application like PocketZenPhone to switch the profiles with one touch!!! I didn't start using my diamond yet only because of this!!! I have to change profiles very often (bluetooth on/off, vibrating with sound and without sound, etc...) and it is really impossible everytime to enter menus!!!
Can someone help me.... please!?!
Bye
Urosh
Urosh said:
Does it all mean that maybe one day it will be possible to add some other items to the TF3D??
I am desperately looking for an application like PocketZenPhone to switch the profiles with one touch!!! I didn't start using my diamond yet only because of this!!! I have to change profiles very often (bluetooth on/off, vibrating with sound and without sound, etc...) and it is really impossible everytime to enter menus!!!
Can someone help me.... please!?!
Bye
Urosh
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Try AEBPlus - it maps your hard ware buttons, I have just one set to turn on wi-fi, and the same button on double pressing to turn on Bluetooth, turn off the same way....
B_u_d
www.mediacenter-tv.co.uk
b_u_d said:
Try AEBPlus - it maps your hard ware buttons, I have just one set to turn on wi-fi, and the same button on double pressing to turn on Bluetooth, turn off the same way....
B_u_d
www.mediacenter-tv.co.uk
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Thanks a lot... I'm going to try if it helps!
It would be better to have 4 or 5 icons like in PZP with different profiles, but also this can help.
Are you sure it works with WM6.1?? Because it is not in the list of compatible devices.
Thanks again!
Urosh
I tried to install AEBPlus but it was unsuccessful...
???
Do someone know why?
Thnx
Urosh
TouchFLO 3D & other elements
How can I add other elements to the home screen using TouchFLO 3D? Can it be customized somehow?
I want to add todo list just like when not using TouchFLO 3D where it shows remaining tasks to fulfill??
l3v5y said:
I was wondering whether to do that... These forums seem to be some of the cleanest (device wise) so keep up the moderating
If and when someone gets there hands on an operator branded device (or an operator ROM), I'll try and work out how the customization takes place...
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Hi,
I did get an O2 ignito on Tuesday.
I ordered it on Saturday and PMed two of the better known cooks if they wanted a dump (sorry and no names) but not had a reply. They are obviuosly busy.
I did point out though that I had not dumped before and did not have anywhere to upload it to. I did find some threads to do it and it seemed complex.
I have now put on a rom from this forum and am very happy with it. Will donate.
The o2 rom was 1.92.2xx.
dopodcht9000 said:
**** your mother.
Please post files not links and links.
****.
**** you.
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OMG, how can you even post this??? 2 weeks Ban coming your way!
Got there before you
all I want to do is change the color of the text on the various tabs. the home screen/theme is perfect but the text is black on a black background. but the text is white on the home screen...paitently waiting.

Touchflo 3d animations removed after update

Dear developers,
With the new touchflo 3d version on the 1.93 rom from HTC, the animations from touchflo when flipping trough the tabs is gone. I really liked that feature and would like to get it back.
Can someone make a .cab to get it back or something?
(I've tried the advanced config, but could'nt get it right there, also TF3d config)
I like the new touchflo 3d version, its faster and the home screen loads quicker, but i don't like that the animations are missing
Please help!
Im pretty sure those animations are removed and un-enableable.
keerttttt said:
Dear developers,
I like the new touchflo 3d version, its faster and the home screen loads quicker, but i don't like that the animations are missing
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Well, that's why it's faster
keerttttt said:
Dear developers,
With the new touchflo 3d version on the 1.93 rom from HTC, the animations from touchflo when flipping trough the tabs is gone. I really liked that feature and would like to get it back.
Can someone make a .cab to get it back or something?
(I've tried the advanced config, but could'nt get it right there, also TF3d config)
I like the new touchflo 3d version, its faster and the home screen loads quicker, but i don't like that the animations are missing
Please help!
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only "comin back" home animation is disappeared not the others
Incorrect. The 'swipe' animations have been removed in favour of a fade in fade out style. It is faster but not as good.
I would do anything to get rid of those annoying animations that slows my diamond so much, without updating the ROM.
It always amuses me how one man's garbage is another man's gold.
Noam23 said:
I would do anything to get rid of those annoying animations that slows my diamond so much, without updating the ROM.
It always amuses me how one man's garbage is another man's gold.
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Yes well, i don't even wanna call it touchflo 3d, more like touchflo 2d.
Really, if you don't have the animations, you could just as well make a 2d version of it, would make it a lot faster and less memory (the animations that are left could be done with images...
Anyhow, anyone got a advice?
keerttttt said:
Yes well, i don't even wanna call it touchflo 3d, more like touchflo 2d.
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Its called touch flow 3D because of the, Weather, Music, Photos, SMS, Emails and Clock, not beacuse of those animations. TouchFlo 2D? this is not.
What types of animations are gone? IS it like the flowing text messages, or the email letter that spins or what? Has the clock on the frontpage stopped flipping?
Krillo said:
What types of animations are gone? IS it like the flowing text messages, or the email letter that spins or what? Has the clock on the frontpage stopped flipping?
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the clock stop flipping only when you come back to home menu
SMASH1902 said:
the clock stop flipping only when you come back to home menu
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its back in 1.94 roms (bepe 0.97 fixed)
Krillo said:
What types of animations are gone? IS it like the flowing text messages, or the email letter that spins or what? Has the clock on the frontpage stopped flipping?
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My clock animation is gone, do you know how to get it back ? I have the original ROM...
someone tough enough to make a video of this "lack" of animation ??
keerttttt said:
Dear developers,
With the new touchflo 3d version on the 1.93 rom from HTC, the animations from touchflo when flipping trough the tabs is gone. I really liked that feature and would like to get it back.
Can someone make a .cab to get it back or something?
(I've tried the advanced config, but could'nt get it right there, also TF3d config)
I like the new touchflo 3d version, its faster and the home screen loads quicker, but i don't like that the animations are missing
Please help!
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I totally agree with you. The reason why I didn't upgrade my rom is because of this feature. I want ik back too !!!
I heard that when you install de tfl3d cab from the 1.37 rom that the animation is back. Can anyone confirm this and tell me where I could find this original 1.37 tfl3d cab file ?
MRE-net said:
I totally agree with you. The reason why I didn't upgrade my rom is because of this feature. I want ik back too !!!
I heard that when you install de tfl3d cab from the 1.37 rom that the animation is back. Can anyone confirm this and tell me where I could find this original 1.37 tfl3d cab file ?
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I think that there are few differences in installing 1.93 official roms or 1.37 official roms with tf3d boost improvements from tf3d ver 0.31 cab
jerem' said:
someone tough enough to make a video of this "lack" of animation ??
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http://www.alltouchsite.com/2008/07/video-of-faster-touchflo-3d-in-rom-193/
SMASH1902 said:
I think that there are few differences in installing 1.93 official roms or 1.37 official roms with tf3d boost improvements from tf3d ver 0.31 cab
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I installed Manila version 0.30 to get all animations back n works great - much faster than in its original ROM 1.37xxx But if you say that in fixed new version are back I gonna try it
tommm said:
I installed Manila version 0.30 to get all animations back n works great - much faster than in its original ROM 1.37xxx But if you say that in fixed new version are back I gonna try it
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not fixed version but "customized version"
Jorlin said:
http://www.alltouchsite.com/2008/07/video-of-faster-touchflo-3d-in-rom-193/
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Thanks for the link.
Difference is not so bad... if it's faster, it's better (even if it is not always true....)
I'll update as soon i come back home...
Some French users report a pb with Contacts. They can't modify a Favorit Contact after you opened it and by Menu / modify, they come back to the TF3D
Here is a (very) short video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZLO9i4NHgI
Does anyone have the same problem ?

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