Hows the video/music quality? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Has anyone tried viewing videos or mp3s for that matter?
I have a SE810i and looking for something with business apps along with decent music and video playback.
other options are of course the N95 8gig or the SE w960 but Im a big TyTN 2 fan.
I dont care for webpages or gps
Just music, videos and mostly word/email/contact apps
ps anyone with Rogers in Canada have one yet?

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Optimum Video settings for Kaiser/Tilt?

I've got a Tilt and recently copied over some movies that I had for my Blackjack and my Curve. For whatever reason, with TCPMP, they don't look nearly as good on my phone. There's a lot more noise in the picture with artifacts and pixelation, etc., plus the picture is not very smooth... low FPS I'm guessing.
I'm going to re-encode all of these but I'd like to get some opinions on what the best video bit-rate, fps, audio bit-rate would be for this. I was doing 320x240 at around 220Kbps, 24FPS and 64Kbps for audio. What should I increase/decrease?
Thanks!
Welcome to the multimedai hell of the Kaiser/Tilt
Your problem probably is the same problem we all have with the Kiaser/Tilt displaying video. The drivers are not available for smooth smooth video display, neither in games nor multimedia.
You may try to tweak your source media using diff bitrates etc, I have done so, and even then experience tearing, lockups, pixelation, and tons of dropped frames.
I encourage you to sign the petition asking HTC to fix this problem here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342500
Otherwise, even the best tweaking and re-transcoding of the source media does not help much at all as far as I can see.
If you encode at 320x240 with audio at 96k or 128k with a total bitrate under 500k it will play great on Kaiser with TCPMP. I've encoded at this rate for Archos boxes and ViPods and my vids look good and play well on all.
Thanks for the feedback! I'll try that out and cross my fingers...
I tried video podcasts downloaded from iTunes. These are in MPEG4 format and when played with the builtin PMP10, audio and video are not in sync. It really takes the joy out from the experience when you can't just download the video files directly to your Kaiser but have to re-encode them on a PC first.
Yeah I was quite surprised to find how unimpressive the playback was. I came from in iPhone, then a Blackjack, and lastly a Curve. They all seemed to play video pretty well and what's odd is that the Blackjack was one of the best - with WM5... go figure...
IMHO nothing can beat the iPhone in video playback quality but since I need a few other things in my phone, I had to ditch it.
For a $750 phone, its pretty disappointing that my T680 can do a better job of displaying a video than the kaiser. I just signed that petition and hopefully something will be done about this.
Wonder if the other HTC's have the same problem. Or this is just an isolated case with the kaiser?
Prolab said:
For a $750 phone, its pretty disappointing that my T680 can do a better job of displaying a video than the kaiser. I just signed that petition and hopefully something will be done about this.
Wonder if the other HTC's have the same problem. Or this is just an isolated case with the kaiser?
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The problem is only related to phones that have the Qualcomm 7200 CPU, which is the kaiser, touch dual and maybe the touch cruise, the dual plays videos very badly to and even dragging solitaire cards around the screen it's very stuttery
My original touch however does everything very smoothly using it's 201mhz omap 850 cpu, can play videos with bitrates up to 600k without stuttering
HTC need to get these bloody drivers out

Best video settings

So after my daughter got an ipod touch for xmas, I have been experimenting with movies and have used videora to convert dvd's so that she can watch them on her device... which naturally led me to loading them on to my Kaiser too.
I only have a 4gb SDHC card at present and some movies take up 2gb of space at the Ipod touch default settings in videora. Has anyone tried other apps or settings to really shrink movies for the kaiser?
I've been using SPB Mobile DVD since the days of my Wizard, then my MDA Vario II and now my Vario III (Kaiser). I've tried several different conversion softwares, but the SPB one for me is the best, both in terms of ease of use and output quality. An average film of around 1 1/2 hours, encoded at best quality in .avi format comes out at around 350MB. Using Coreplayer for playback and always really happy with picture and sound.
PSP Video
I found this program, psp video 9, when I had a psp and transfered video to it. I found it works great for the PPC devices since it puts the video in a generic format that fits the window size perfectly. Plus, it's free.
www.pspvideo9.com
It's a little overwhelming at first since there are tons of options but once you go through it a little, I found it very nice.
Hope this helps.
i use pocketdivxencoder, which is very smart and good application for encoding videos to pda.
try this
(at quality, you can also set higher or lower, but i think that is enough for pda!
which is important: xvid & 2pass encoding (2 pass takes more time, but it gives you the best quality)
regards
pulyka
ps. if you experience audio/video synch error, use the "correct audio/video synchro" button

Choppy Video Podcasts

I recently started using rss hub on duttys hybrid lite rom. Anyways after downloading a few video podcasts ie G4 attak of the show and geek brief i was very disapointed.
When rss hub downloads these files it opens them using windows media player and they are very choppy and there sound doesnt sync. The most video ive watched before this is mobile youtube wich played fine but is much lower quality.
Anyways is there a fix for this or is it becuase of the tilts video driver? If its a driver problem that is rediculous becuase my ipaq 3650 played hi quality dvd rips much better than the tilt is playing these podcast. I mean these things arent even streaming.
boorishid said:
I recently started using rss hub on duttys hybrid lite rom. Anyways after downloading a few video podcasts ie G4 attak of the show and geek brief i was very disapointed.
When rss hub downloads these files it opens them using windows media player and they are very choppy and there sound doesnt sync. The most video ive watched before this is mobile youtube wich played fine but is much lower quality.
Anyways is there a fix for this or is it becuase of the tilts video driver? If its a driver problem that is rediculous becuase my ipaq 3650 played hi quality dvd rips much better than the tilt is playing these podcast. I mean these things arent even streaming.
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You should get an iPhone.
i dunno why since half of these podcasts are asf files, thanks for the help though
hey guys, i have rss hub on my tilt, and i'm trying to figure out if theres a way to stream the video podcasts vs download them..

[Q] Video Questions

I've installed RockPlayer on the NC and it seems to run standard def video (avi) that I've got in the 20-25 fps range while hd (720p) video is pretty much a slide show. What are the NC's capabilities video wise?
I ran quadrant and can see that the 3D performance isn't good compared to my Samsung Captivate but does that apply to video as well? I've played the same videos on my Captivate using RockPlayer and the stock video player and the stock player works much better than RockPlayer on the phone with much smoother playback. I've tried to copy the video player to the NC but get install errors every time so I'm guessing that it's incompatible.
Are there better video players that people recommend?
I am using mixzing to watch my movies. Works great!
Anyone else getting out of sync audio on... Everything? I've tried lots of sw player and not a one was in sync (avi, mp4, sd, hd). From what I've read, 2.2 should fix this, but bummer if it doesn't. I've got an ipad, and want to want the nook instead since the ipad isn't the laptop replace I thout it would be.
EDIT: Looks like MP4's are in Sync, so I assume it's the FFMPEG software decode that these players are using, as the MP4 should be done in hardware. Hopefully this thing'll get 2.2 before Jan. 3rd when my B&N return is up!
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Anyone else getting out of sync audio on... Everything? I've tried lots of sw player and not a one was in sync (avi, mp4, sd, hd). From what I've read, 2.2 should fix this, but bummer if it doesn't. I've got an ipad, and want to wNt the nook instead since the ipad isn't the laptop replace I thout it would be.
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I'm having the same problem and hoping someone figures out why. I can't imagine it's a hardware problem...
What exactly is the point on watching a HD file in a non HD device? With the Nook's screen you can get away with a 480P video and it'll look fantastic. Lower resolutions will look pretty decent too. Pixels are all nice and good but there's a time and a place for everything... well, in this case only a place and that's your living room big screen TV
Using the stock player on the Nook I am having no issues with audio and video staying in sync.
Mixzing is great, but won't play avi files. I don't want to have to convert all my files just to play on one device...
act 1 video player works fine for me no sync issues
godsfilth said:
act 1 video player works fine for me no sync issues
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Per your post I checked this out and you are right...it does work great with more options while playing. I think the only way to "back" out of a movie is to use the "n" button though. ?

[Q] Please anyone help me with video playback on The Nexus one

I'm very disappointed with video playback on the N1. I thought it would handle video well, i mean this thing has 1ghz of processor after all.
Video player I've tried so far are arcMedia, mplayer, rockplayer, nemoplayer and of course the build in one. All of these does very bad job. They either don't have the codec to handle videos, playback but with grayish overlay, only sound and if the video is small, i can see pixel on the edges. Non of them can smooth smaller video.
My last 5-6 phones were all wm and with coreplayer installed wm can handle these vga or wvga video as if they were qvga. Plus, coreplayer can smooth out smaller video.
I really love the ui on N1 but if the video playback is this bad i may have to go HD2. So help me, I'm willing to try anyway anyway. thanks.
Oh I've googled for ways already with no luck and i know coreplayer is coming to android. I don't i want to wait. thanks again
Sorry for the long post. I've also kill every app and please don't tell me to convert all those video.
Interesting. I've used some of the apps you mentioned, and have always been happy with the playback quality...
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
Always great to see fast fast replies. what are your file type? what resolution? Mine usually are mkv with 500 to 800p. any help? anybody?
I use VPlayer beta for playback + Handbrake for encoding (using stock iphone/ipad preset) and I get mostly good results. What bothers me is sometimes the phone will stutter and not play back but other times it plays the same video fine. I have mostly long concert videos (1-2 hrs created from a ts_video) and if it stutters and stalls I'll pause it for a minute then when I hit play the audio goes fine and the video will be in FF for 15 sec or so then sync up again. Sync is not great overall but I'm not going to worry about it.
VPlayer beta works for me .... could you be running too many widgets or not killing enough programs in the background?
Come one people could you not see the tears next to my question? How about paid app then? Is there any good one?
I was using Rock Player until I read about VPlayer Beta over here and installed it. Personally, I felt that VPlayer Beta is more feature rich and configurable then the Rock Player
Ah nice guys thanks so much. I would have never found this vplayer if i hadn't post this Q here. Although i hope coreplayer will be here soon.Anyway thanks again.
if you're trying to get a decent picture from a smaller sized video, it's going to suck. i usually rip dvd's with mencoder or handbrake, transcode to mp4 @ 800x480 (or whatever) and all the dvd's play back beautifully. sound is great (with passive cancelling earbuds) and the isn't a shimmy even when a phone call/sms/gmail interrupts with a notification sound.
maybe you have something heavy running in the bg ? sync messed ? dunno
VLC for Android coming soon
http://pocketnow.com/android/vlc-media-player-arriving-on-android-in-early-2011

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