I'm very disappointed with video playback on the N1. I thought it would handle video well, i mean this thing has 1ghz of processor after all.
Video player I've tried so far are arcMedia, mplayer, rockplayer, nemoplayer and of course the build in one. All of these does very bad job. They either don't have the codec to handle videos, playback but with grayish overlay, only sound and if the video is small, i can see pixel on the edges. Non of them can smooth smaller video.
My last 5-6 phones were all wm and with coreplayer installed wm can handle these vga or wvga video as if they were qvga. Plus, coreplayer can smooth out smaller video.
I really love the ui on N1 but if the video playback is this bad i may have to go HD2. So help me, I'm willing to try anyway anyway. thanks.
Oh I've googled for ways already with no luck and i know coreplayer is coming to android. I don't i want to wait. thanks again
Sorry for the long post. I've also kill every app and please don't tell me to convert all those video.
Interesting. I've used some of the apps you mentioned, and have always been happy with the playback quality...
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Always great to see fast fast replies. what are your file type? what resolution? Mine usually are mkv with 500 to 800p. any help? anybody?
I use VPlayer beta for playback + Handbrake for encoding (using stock iphone/ipad preset) and I get mostly good results. What bothers me is sometimes the phone will stutter and not play back but other times it plays the same video fine. I have mostly long concert videos (1-2 hrs created from a ts_video) and if it stutters and stalls I'll pause it for a minute then when I hit play the audio goes fine and the video will be in FF for 15 sec or so then sync up again. Sync is not great overall but I'm not going to worry about it.
VPlayer beta works for me .... could you be running too many widgets or not killing enough programs in the background?
Come one people could you not see the tears next to my question? How about paid app then? Is there any good one?
I was using Rock Player until I read about VPlayer Beta over here and installed it. Personally, I felt that VPlayer Beta is more feature rich and configurable then the Rock Player
Ah nice guys thanks so much. I would have never found this vplayer if i hadn't post this Q here. Although i hope coreplayer will be here soon.Anyway thanks again.
if you're trying to get a decent picture from a smaller sized video, it's going to suck. i usually rip dvd's with mencoder or handbrake, transcode to mp4 @ 800x480 (or whatever) and all the dvd's play back beautifully. sound is great (with passive cancelling earbuds) and the isn't a shimmy even when a phone call/sms/gmail interrupts with a notification sound.
maybe you have something heavy running in the bg ? sync messed ? dunno
VLC for Android coming soon
http://pocketnow.com/android/vlc-media-player-arriving-on-android-in-early-2011
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Hello,
The new core player 1.2.1 with youtube integration is OUT !!!
Go to Mobihand and enjoy.
Private69.
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Great news thanks
As core player does not have a trial, and is pretty expensive, could you do some screen shots of this feature?
Surur
just check out the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRNkuEfx7j4
Cool. Thanks. Pretty nice. Looks like I will be shelling out, after refusing to pay for software without a trial for more than a year now.
Anyway, any way to get core player to play .flv files saved from YouTube. I know it does not support it natively, but I wonder if there is a hack or not.
Surur
Youtube integration works like a charm but trying to use H.264 for streaming (highest quality) makes me lose ~75% of the frames.
I dunno I guess I didn't expect it to be perfect but it's totally unwatchable. The medium settings works fine but looks worse than the flash video bundle with tcpm. (The actual interface is retty nice though a bit unresponsive and it doesn't always bring up the video when clicking a video, thus making you have to change "view" to see the actual video. pretty annoying.)
That youtube integration looks kinda slick.
I have core player, and am very happy with how it plays the videos I have on my storage card. It's clearer and sharper than WMP or TCPMP.
I don't have the you tube integration yet. What advantage does it have over TCPMP? Does it upload faster, or play the videos better? Sounds like undac didn't find the quality to be all that great.
Gibbs said:
I have core player, and am very happy with how it plays the videos I have on my storage card. It's clearer and sharper than WMP or TCPMP.
I don't have the you tube integration yet. What advantage does it have over TCPMP? Does it upload faster, or play the videos better? Sounds like undac didn't find the quality to be all that great.
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eeks, h.264 youtube LOOKS great, but as undac pointed out...it's unwatchable... dropped-frame city...
medium setting RUNS great but looks bad...
so still flash video player and tcpmp for quality youtube...
if you just wanted to watch a video asap and didn't mind the quality, well medium setting core player would work ...
I tried the new version and really like the YT interface. I played several videos via WiFi and 3G and saw good results, video's only dropped about 5 frames in 2,500 pretty consistant with both radios with h.264's and zero frames with MPEG4s.
To select videos, I pressed the "i" icon on the right of each video, then in the larger info screen, pressed the play icon. Worked every time and seemed pretty responsive as well.
Edit, Oops, that was with the stock settings (Medium), when I changed the network setting for YT to high quality, the Kaiser chokes as reported. It played 101 frames and dropped 1515! Is this strictly a Kaiser/Tilt missing video driver issue??? and other PDA's function with this setting??
Just tested several H.264 Videos over wifi. 10000k frames played 400 dropped - frame rate 25.68. Thats pretty acceptable to me.
Not sure why my is performing better than some. Yes I did check to make sure it was h.264 High.
any1 have the cab for this? I know its not free I have purchased it but for some reason handago didnt provide me with the link for new version they still are selling the old one.
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any1 have the cab for this? I know its not free I have purchased it but for some reason handago didnt provide me with the link for new version they still are selling the old one.
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I am sure they will have it soon enough. No warez posting is allowed here. Mobihand.com of course has it already and I have to say it really is working nice. Love the youtube interface and streaming is really flawless with hsdpa.
High quality (H264) YouTube playback over wifi on my HTC Advantage is virtually flawless in CP 1.2.1 - I have it set to use the ATI Imageon video decoder w/acceleration selected. Supposedly the ATI chip doesn't have the capability to do hardware acceleration of H264 but in CP 1.2 and 1.2.1 I get incredibly smooth playback of H264 video (not at 640x480 unfortunately).
Can anyone advise on optimum settings van CorePlayer?
YouTube doesn't look too good here either. Can anyone advise on the best video (and other) settings to use with CorePlayer 1.2.1 / TyTN II?
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YouTube doesn't look too good here either. Can anyone advise on the best video (and other) settings to use with CorePlayer 1.2.1 / TyTN II?
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I would just suggest you make sure under video settings you have the qtv option selected.
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YouTube doesn't look too good here either. Can anyone advise on the best video (and other) settings to use with CorePlayer 1.2.1 / TyTN II?
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The "default" setting for Youtube video's is the crappy 3gp mode
to get H.264 goto
menu -> tools -> preferences -> Network
and amend the "YouTube Format" to "h264 (High Quality)"
Also make sure
menu -> tools -> preferences -> video
has "video Output" set to "QTV Display" (I'd recommend setting it to GDI first, exit, restart, set to QTv, exist and then restart)
QTv mode has some quirks (it wont display some of my album art) but for video it's way better than GDI
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Just tested several H.264 Videos over wifi. 10000k frames played 400 dropped - frame rate 25.68. Thats pretty acceptable to me.
Not sure why my is performing better than some. Yes I did check to make sure it was h.264 High.
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bratag, can you post links to some youtube vids and your live benchmark on them over wifi at h.264?
I've only tested it a little and so far it seems great to me. Having Youtube integrated kicks ass. Here is a sample I tested:
with three bars on HSDPA and Youtube set to high quality...
Wolverine trailer
320X240 25 fps
1405 frames played
165 frames dropped
actual framerate 22.373
Im sure that larger pixel dimension files will drop more frames. But so far I am happy. This CoreCodec team is the heat. First the QTV overlay and now youtube. Props
It very much depends on the size of the youtube video. Anything over about 480x runs choppy. You have to go down to medium for that. But anything encoded at a lower size than that is fine
Hi,
which mediaplayer is best for the diamond, or in other words, which support the video accelerator chip (QTv ?). Today I installed Nero Media Player Pro, but it either failed to render TV-Rips (std.~350mb only 1-2sec playback) or very chunky playback of 320h mov files/trailers. Obviously no support of the QTv here.
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Hi,
which mediaplayer is best for the diamond, or in other words, which support the video accelerator chip (QTv ?). Today I installed Nero Media Player Pro, but it either failed to render TV-Rips (std.~350mb only 1-2sec playback) or very chunky playback of 320h mov files/trailers. Obviously no support of the QTv here.
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well sheer power wise, TCPMP is the best media player for any mobile platform but i doubt that it supports the accelerometer and the interface isn't exaclty finer freindly.
Try coreplayer
I've been using coreplayer as well... works great, no conversion needed really... pretty much plays everything...
I'd agree that TCPMP is best for me
I have found that running movies through PocketDivXEncoder first improves the view. I need to test the settings a bit more but video quality between 14 and 20 at full resolution looks great so far (audio 6 or 7)
thanks for your recommendations, will try them.
does any of those support upnp ? like to stream some videofiles from my nas box. therefore reencoding first to divx isn't really an option for me..
btw. while playing around with mediaplayers and wifi today, I burned the battery within TWO hours
Yeah. CorePlayer FTW! I hate TCPMP. CorePlayer is the best media player (video wise). Totally worth paying for. I'd suggest Conduit's Pocket Player for audio files or S2P.
Kraize
I got Core player and at first before i had the Elite 2.0 ROM it was playing really bad.
Now, For example, i have the last 2 episodes of the latest Doctor Who Series on my diamond and it plays them ReallY well. Its in Sync and its top quality video. I love the VGA screen!!
NOT: These are Xvids that are 500-600MB each so they havent been re-encoded
Hum I have bought coreplayer 1.2.5, if I see a film with the diamond native resolution, it is very slow. Is it normal ?
No problem with the resolution 240*320 but we have a very beautiful screen I would like to see my film on 480*640
Have a full avi rip here of a anime series and TCMP is really crap, it lags, choppy playbacks and freezes then plays. I really dont know how you guys are using it. I am using elite 3.0 and i did try it also on standard manufactures it was the same.
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Now, For example, i have the last 2 episodes of the latest Doctor Who Series on my diamond and it plays them ReallY well. Its in Sync and its top quality video. I love the VGA screen!!
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Which version and what settings of Core Player are you using ?
The resolution of the videos is more or less 640x480 ?
I tried like Diagorn the Core Player 1.2.5 and a lot of settings, but on my diamond high quality videos are really slow (the sound is ok, but images is like slideshow)
@yodjar
that is exactly what is happening to me the file itself is around 170mb and its about 22 mins long. Plays beutiful using my p.c and my universal (xda exec) and any other p.c with anything that can play the avi. Please post a solution here if you find one people who seem to have it working dont seem to say how it works it just does.
Nobody ?
I can't understand why this thing doesn't interest ppl more...
I have problems to see some videos
First Sorry for my english I am using a Traslatos then I correct it.
I had moved my videos that I have in my old Eten X800 to the Diamond, most of them can not see but heard, including some filmed with a Photograph camera or with the Eten. That may be happening? I am using the CorePlayer but the same thing happens with some in the Window Media Player 1.2.1 for Arm, with the same Core Player I can see the videos in the Eten.
Thanks Carlos
Player
Yes, Core player is better than TCPMP player I think since I told some videos using y canon ixus 60 and it wouldn't play on the window media player and on TCPMp is jerky but core player is very smooth.
Kiwi_hknz said:
Yes, Core player is better than TCPMP player I think since I told some videos using y canon ixus 60 and it wouldn't play on the window media player and on TCPMp is jerky but core player is very smooth.
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There's a separate thread somewhere about supporting the Qtv chip on the Diamond - have a search if I don't find it before you.
Guys i recently installed coreplayer for xperia. The issue i faced is the video playback is not upto the mark. Its kinda jerky and stops skips videos in between and not smooth.
Has anyone faced this issue with X1 by the way my friend has omnia and the same verison of coreplayer installed on his cell but the video playback is perfect without any skips.
same here...bought x1 5 days ago tried everything and that piece of crap doesnt work same as coreplayer :/ i downloaded the Video...Encoding...GUI_Full.HD stuff which converts video...converted one but the movie on X1 doesnt look like a movie !! it looks like a slideshow but guess what windows media player plays this video Perfectly...written by the big P so im asking wtf ??
the X1 does have some performance issues. this has been discussed several times in the past
the omnia performs a lot better because it has a much faster CPU and because the resolution is 1/4th of that of the xperia so it does not need to work as hard to get smooth playback
core player doesnt support x1 hardware acceleration... thats the main problem there
ok ok but what to do ? im playing aroung with it from the day i bought it and nothing that i tried helped and im a bit frustrated :/ i dont wanna use wmp
Maybe you should get an IPhooon its click and play no hussle and stuff no need to tweak and every thing works (well every thing that comes with it)
install custom rom... gfx booster... convert videos with tool posted here on forums and play them in media panel... no lag at all...
Media panel and converted movies is best solution. And no, you don't need custom rom.
Crystal player is just useless. Yeah, it's sad.
well thats wierd, i play 700mb highres avi files on coreplayer without any problem, maybe its the videos you try to play..? i only face lagging with flv files.
btw i have stock uk r3aa010
I found that some people find 80% speed 'perfect'. I can spot single dropped frame.
Run benchmark a post the results, subjective value is meaningless.
And yes, of course, it does depend on the movie. I play most of the 700mb movies under 90%.
i have not had any problems with coreplayer either....
The movie i am playing is in mkv format and around 500megs in size
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The movie i am playing is in mkv format and around 500megs in size
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1-Use HTC Touch HD video converter
2-Play your converted video with windows player or the media panel
3-Have fun
I have CorePlayer 1.3.2 and i played recently a movie DVD-Rip of 1.45 Gb straight copy and paste from my computer on Xperia. Had no problems, i watched the whole movi without lags, frameskips or sound not synchronized with video...
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I have CorePlayer 1.3.2 and i played recently a movie DVD-Rip of 1.45 Gb straight copy and paste from my computer on Xperia. Had no problems, i watched the whole movi without lags, frameskips or sound not synchronized with video...
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That I simply cannot believe. Post benchmark results, and movie info (resolution, bitrate).
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That I simply cannot believe. Post benchmark results, and movie info (resolution, bitrate).
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Me neither. 80% is what I usually get as speed with 1.3.2. Btw this DVD-Rip may be some small resolution, like 640x272.
I just don't get it, such a good phone with such a lousy movie playing capabilities.
OK... here's the facts.
It's all about perception. Some individuals can watch a movie that displays at 24fps (frames per second, which is the standard) and see a perfectly smooth movie. The brains fills in the gaps between each image and creates the illusion of full motion.
Some lucky individuals can look at a movie playing at 20fps and still see a smooth movie while most of us will perceive it as jerky.
Some unlucky individuals (myself included) find anything less than 30 fps to be jerky.
And finally. Coreplayer + xvid files do not use the acceleration feature of the chipset hence the standard *cough* downloaded tv show will usually be and 624 x 352 with a 912Kbps bit rate (These are average stats)
Will run at about 80%-85% framerate on your X1 giving you a fps of about 20fps.
If you reenconde using the sticky programme GUI you can play the same file at 100% USING ONLY WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER/MEDIAL PANEL!!! (coreplayer will still run it at 85% ish)
Yes .. I just want those people who can watch movies at 80% to realize how lucky they are
Well, there has been so many threads on this subject...
I don't see where the problem is to use Windows Media Player to watch a movie, it's just perfect. Files that cannot be opened by WMP (like flv for example) can be opened with CorePlayer, that's nice.
I don't want to hurt anybody, but maybe people whose mind totally deny this very simple concept should may be go to see a psy We have the right tools, they work perfectly, so why do you want to re-invent the wheel ?
Well most people want to watch AVI movies .. and those are not watchable in WMP and jerky in CorePlayer. If you don't want to watch them, good for you.
This is a great place!
I have been reading all the threads that might have anything to do with video playback.
I've installed those 3D drivers and graphics were improved on that hologram thing and "light 3d"
Still, video playback is choppy and im grinding my teeth seeing it!
I have converted videos in all kinds of formats in all kids of FPS and KBPS and kept VGA resolution and still no use.
Have i missed something?
thanks!!
what media player are you using dude? ive been using TCMP for the longest time and i have no problems on playing my videos/movies...
i tried using the built in windows media player, coreplayer, and i have used tcpmp once but the bottom taskbar was black so i didnt know what problem that program had.
anyways, the tcpmp didnt play smooth. maybe i had a bad version?
Have you tried viewing some other content other than your own converted files? try using the attached sample avi with all 3 players and see how that goes.
ive tried the videos that came with the phone.
windows media player handles videos much better than coreplayer but still no smooth video.
this is weird, on other ppc's that ive had (a few) coreplayer/tcpmp played videos much better than wmp.
over here its the exact opposite.
how come?
what ROM are you using?
original ROM that came with the diamond.
in my case its 2.o3
israel orange
help? anyone?
I don't know anyone here who is on the same ROM. you could try upgrading the ROM??
what ROM should i use?
can i extract the hebrew that comes with the ROM currently on my diamond?
i kinda need it
well of course that the built in WMP will play the video smoother than the core player. It`s because only WMP can use the hardware accelerator in the phone.
still the core player don`t have the proper drivers to access to the GPU.
ya it plays smoother, but still not smooth.
and theres all this tearing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-481714.html
make sure you use qtv
With TCPMP set Video to GDI.
i installed tcpmp and when i ran it it came up with a message "crashed"
and it won't run.
i used Qtv with the coreplayer and it was still slugish
Be sure you use the version on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519543&highlight=TCPMP
It works great on my Diamond.
Ive installed a tcpmp from another thread from this forum.
It works and plays videos but its still slugish.
Is there a patch or a fix i was supposed to install?
Smooth video playback
Hi all,
I was having problems with jerky video playback.
I did some searching and found this link-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
It works a treat really smooth and in 640 480
WELL DONE
I saw this too...
It doesn't play smooth on my device.
still, this is the program i use to convert video if i wanna play something on my diamond
even tho it stinks (the diamond not the program!)
Hi idandavid,
PM me your email and I will send you a mov video of my Diamond playing a smooth video.
Or send me a video, I will conver it and try playing it on my Diamond. I can then send you the converted file to compare on your Diamond.
Hope this helps
Grez
I've installed RockPlayer on the NC and it seems to run standard def video (avi) that I've got in the 20-25 fps range while hd (720p) video is pretty much a slide show. What are the NC's capabilities video wise?
I ran quadrant and can see that the 3D performance isn't good compared to my Samsung Captivate but does that apply to video as well? I've played the same videos on my Captivate using RockPlayer and the stock video player and the stock player works much better than RockPlayer on the phone with much smoother playback. I've tried to copy the video player to the NC but get install errors every time so I'm guessing that it's incompatible.
Are there better video players that people recommend?
I am using mixzing to watch my movies. Works great!
Anyone else getting out of sync audio on... Everything? I've tried lots of sw player and not a one was in sync (avi, mp4, sd, hd). From what I've read, 2.2 should fix this, but bummer if it doesn't. I've got an ipad, and want to want the nook instead since the ipad isn't the laptop replace I thout it would be.
EDIT: Looks like MP4's are in Sync, so I assume it's the FFMPEG software decode that these players are using, as the MP4 should be done in hardware. Hopefully this thing'll get 2.2 before Jan. 3rd when my B&N return is up!
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Anyone else getting out of sync audio on... Everything? I've tried lots of sw player and not a one was in sync (avi, mp4, sd, hd). From what I've read, 2.2 should fix this, but bummer if it doesn't. I've got an ipad, and want to wNt the nook instead since the ipad isn't the laptop replace I thout it would be.
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I'm having the same problem and hoping someone figures out why. I can't imagine it's a hardware problem...
What exactly is the point on watching a HD file in a non HD device? With the Nook's screen you can get away with a 480P video and it'll look fantastic. Lower resolutions will look pretty decent too. Pixels are all nice and good but there's a time and a place for everything... well, in this case only a place and that's your living room big screen TV
Using the stock player on the Nook I am having no issues with audio and video staying in sync.
Mixzing is great, but won't play avi files. I don't want to have to convert all my files just to play on one device...
act 1 video player works fine for me no sync issues
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act 1 video player works fine for me no sync issues
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Per your post I checked this out and you are right...it does work great with more options while playing. I think the only way to "back" out of a movie is to use the "n" button though. ?