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BT sound quality (voice) on Kaiser

Anyone else the same experience? Contrary to almost every other WM device I have used in the past, the voice sound quality both on BT headsets and on parrot carkits is way below par. It sounds thin and metallic.
When using the speaker on the device itself (held up to your ear) the quality is excellent, so to me there is a major flaw in the the BT implementation on the Kaiser. The x7500 sounds way better, so it's not the OS itself.

Finally, someone else with good hearing
I have exactly the same issue. Even it's tolerable but is some situations it's very hard to hear the other party. Doesn't matter what headset I am using - Nokia BH 900, Jabra JX10 2 or Jawbone - they all sound thin. I really hope that there is something in registry that can be changed to resolve this. Or maybe a different DLL. In fact, this is the only complain that I have about Kaiser. I've tried this suggestions but none of them worked unfortunately.
Increase Audiogateway capability:
HKLM/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Bluetooth/AudioGateway/Capability
(Dword:69)(Default is 37)
[I'm assuming this is a bitrate setting, but not sure how this differs from those above]
4-Change the Bluetooth channel from the default:
HKLM\Softare\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Device
From there open the subfolders and find those labeled channel. The DWORD key value is the channel number. Change the number to something other than the default.
[i've only tested up to channel 7 because I'm not sure how many channels there are. This seems to have improved issues with interference and intermittent drops, but these issues seem to have more to do with where the device is in relation to the headphones than anything else. You'll have to experiment to see what works best with your gear and environment.]
5-Increase the Bluetooth microphone sensitivity:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway\Mic Volume
(DWORD:10)(Default:5)
6-Increase Bluetooth earpiece volume:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway\Spk Volume
(DWORD:10)(Default:5)
[again experiment to see what works best with your headset and environment]
Taken from http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=7715

Ouch. Just came out of an escalation meeting for which I was forced to use the TyTN II for almost an hour over my Sony Ericsson HBH pv705 headset, and I have to rephrase my first post.
The audio quality is leaves not just a bit to be desired, it is just blatantly bad!
That, I feel, is the only *real* letdown of the TyTN II

Have exactly the same issue here. Was using it today in the car using the Mercedes bluetooth kit, and the sound was very thin and tinny. On my Hermes the sound was full and fine.

It's like listening to one of those shortwave type radios

OK. Now we have to determine is that :
Hardware issue
or
Software issue.
I've briefly used one of the preproduction units back in June and as far as I remember BT was OK. But I can't be sure 100%.
Anyone still using pre-pro units? Please, check how BT headset sounds like.
I really, really hope that this is software issue. Otherwise I am afraid that I am not going be able to keep the unit .

Sorry to put this into the mix but I have actually superior sound quality using a Parrott Car Kit and a Motorola Stereo Headset as compared to previously using these devices with my Hermes device with the newer WM6 ROM's.
I have made no changes but just wanted to share my experience.

jcrompton said:
Sorry to put this into the mix but I have actually superior sound quality using a Parrott Car Kit and a Motorola Stereo Headset as compared to previously using these devices with my Hermes device with the newer WM6 ROM's.
I have made no changes but just wanted to share my experience.
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It's probably due the fact that car kit has already plenty of bass and stereo headset is using a2dp. My stereo BT headset sounds good as well.
Handset itself sounds good, wired handset sounds good. Again, I really hope that there is a way to change something in software that will fix this problem. i guess, we have to wait until device is in more hands and some hackers will find the way

In that case, my second addition to the mix to counter yours. Aside from my SE PV705 I also have a Parrot carkit (3200 LS-Color) and I have the same poor audio quality over bluetooth ...

bt
same here ,i paired it with my car and it's worthless..i can hear the person but they can't hear me.this the worst bluetooth phone ever.

dhopeton said:
same here ,i paired it with my car and it's worthless..i can hear the person but they can't hear me.this the worst bluetooth phone ever.
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Just damn! Flagship HTC device... It's better be software fixable.

Using Sony BT Stereo headset - quality pretty good - better than TyTN.
R

rakh1 said:
Using Sony BT Stereo headset - quality pretty good - better than TyTN.
R
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We are not talking about stereo A2DP quality. Again, stereo BT sounds very good to me as well.

nono - this is simlpy the voice call quality through these headphones - not using the A2DPprotocol - just headset protocol.
R

I use the Sony MEX-5000BT headunit in my car in handsfree mode. I've used it with both the Kaiser & Wizard, and I can't tell any difference in sound quality between the two phones in handsfree mode.
A2DP is a different story -- the Kaiser is much better.

I'm having the same BT issues with my phone. Voice quality on my original TyTN was great through BT. But with the TyTN II, it is sub par.

OK, this is rally confusing. As far as i know all units have the same ROM/Radio builds. Or are they?
Let's start to put numbers:
Mine
ROM 1.56.405.5
Radio 1.27.12.11
protocol 22.45.88.07H
BT is too quiet and tin.

ID64 said:
OK, this is rally confusing. As far as i know all units have the same ROM/Radio builds. Or are they?
Let's start to put numbers:
Mine
ROM 1.56.405.5
Radio 1.27.12.11
protocol 22.45.88.07H
BT is too quiet and tin.
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I have the same as above.

Same as above. BT sounds great with my Scala 700 earphone.

RonenB said:
Same as above. BT sounds great with my Scala 700 earphone.
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What type of device you have been using previously?
When you switch from handset to BT headset on the fly do you hear difference in voice quality? Doesn't seems like BT headset doesn't have the same frequency range as a handset?

Configuring Jawbone for A2DP support??

Has anyone been able to configure their Jawbone (or other mono headset) to hear playback via A2DP or other means?
I've googled the entire interweb and cannot seem to get this to work.
The only option I have for the device in the bluetooth manager is "headset" the "set as stereo headset" is grayed out.
Thanks for any help!

http://www.silentservices.de/btIO.html
just installed it on my tilt and it works great! i can hear windows media and mobiTV through my jawbone!

OnTilt said:
Has anyone been able to configure their Jawbone (or other mono headset) to hear playback via A2DP or other means?
I've googled the entire interweb and cannot seem to get this to work.
The only option I have for the device in the bluetooth manager is "headset" the "set as stereo headset" is grayed out.
Thanks for any help!
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The Jawbone doesn't support A2DP. There are programs that allow you to stream audio to it (See post above). However, they stream it at phone call quality, which means music sounds god awful. Plus, it eats the battery of the Jawbone (which thinks its it making a phone call).
If you actually want bearable audio, you want a real A2DP headset.

The Jabra BT8040 supports A2DP natively and is an excellent BT headset. I wish it had a standard power plug (fewer things to pack for business trips) but other than that, it rocks.
I also have a Jawbone and prefer the BT8040...the Jawbone has much outstanding noise cancellation but the BT8040 beats it in every other category IMHO.

Or use this small free utility to send all the Audio output to the blue tooth headset (even if it doesn't support A2DP).
http://www.freewareppc.com/communication/bluetoothaudio.shtml
Works flawlessly on my phone

if your bluetooth doesn't have a2dp and you want to force audio throught the regular bluetooth headset then look for the btaudio.cab
I find this to be the easier one to use. Run the can and there will be an icon under programs. Click it will force audio and click it again will undo. This is simple cause it doesnt hog system resources.

Any one here familiar with a "work-around" (such as posted above) for the android platform?
I own a nexus one and Jawbone prime - wish I could stream music/voip(!) over my jawbone (blue tooth ear piece)..
Thanks

Jawbone 2 - should have a2dp
iconexus said:
Any one here familiar with a "work-around" (such as posted above) for the android platform?
I own a nexus one and Jawbone prime - wish I could stream music/voip(!) over my jawbone (blue tooth ear piece)..
I have a jawbone 2 which I love for the noise cancellation, but if I could get it to support A2DP the possibilities for voice control of my GS3 would be endless. I know this is an old thread, but it would be great if anyone has figured this out.
Please let me know if there has been a workaround.
Thanks
Simon
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Best earphones for TyTN II - MP3 Playback

Hi All,
I bought HTC Tytn II recently... It's rock.....
But i am very disappointed with the earphone quality of HTC... No Bass at all.... I am not saying mp3 playing quality is bad... I tried my motorola BT stereo headset and it gave me fantastic output with heavy bass..... So the quality of my HTC earphone is bad...
I found several earphones on HTC website.... can you please help me to find out an excellent HTC earphone which can give full Bassy effects.... or any other brand which haves mini usb port...... Dont want converters please.......
Thanks.

pda_crazy said:
Dont want converters please.......
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Why not? You are unlikely to find a decent pair of USB earphones IMHO.
I'd get a small adapter and buy some sure earphones for the best possible sound.

don't mean to hijack the thread but can anybody recommend a good bluetooth stereo headset? i want one that will be good with music and also allow me to make calls.
I am particularly looking for an in ear type earphone or a unit that allows me to use my own ear buds.

I've got the i-Tech Clip Radio (http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=145553). Works well with the kaiser, got play/pause, next/prev, volume, and call buttons, bulit in FM radio, and allows you to plug your own earphones in as it has a 3.5 jack.

How is this unit for bass?
Also it looks just like the htc S100, did HTC rebrand it?

I listen to alot of dance music, and with Sony's EX-71s it does me fine!
Yeh, the S100 is HTC's rebranded version of the non FM radio version!

I also have the iTech clip (excellent unit with medium audio quality) as it can handle calls and lets you use any 3.5mm jack units you have but you have loads of cables about (use my B&O earbuds on that).
For genaral use and if I want to anser a call I use the Promate PM-2006 BT stereo headset as it is a halfway sized headphone with good audio quality and in call holding.
But for sheer audio enjoyment, I use my Creative CB2530, absolute bliss and can put most Hi-Fi's to shame.
SOZ, probably not what the thread starter asked for but WHO is gonna produce a GOOD set of headphones terminated in a mini usb? You will need the converter or BT (no converter at all!)
Every BT unit I have works seamlessly, no clicks, no splutters, no bad audio with my 'out of the box' non-carrier HTC TyTnII.
Damn, its either the beer or I should have been a salesman! Smiles.

There aren't any "best" headphones without using an adapter. If you want the best you'll need to spend you're looking at the Shure SE530 or go custom which is around $1000. It all depends on your budget.

ive got the Shure e4c's connected through an adapter and i can say you can't get better sound.. its so crystal clear, it sounds better than live people in front of you talking

ok, I've something else to add.....well asK
Is there any bluetooth stereo heaphones (with very good sound quality but aren't humongous so as to make me look like a Martian ) that can pair with two devices at once?
For example, I have two phones which support A2DP and I use one as my music phone (Nokia N93i) but also use the TYTN 2 as my business phone. What I want is to be listening to my Nokia N93i through the earphones, and If my TYTN 2 rings, the music pauses so I can speak to the caller on the TYTN 2 then revert back to listening to music back on the N93i.....
.....is this even possible?

LeShin said:
ok, I've something else to add.....well asK
Is there any bluetooth stereo heaphones (with very good sound quality but aren't humongous so as to make me look like a Martian ) that can pair with two devices at once?
For example, I have two phones which support A2DP and I use one as my music phone (Nokia N93i) but also use the TYTN 2 as my business phone. What I want is to be listening to my Nokia N93i through the earphones, and If my TYTN 2 rings, the music pauses so I can speak to the caller on the TYTN 2 then revert back to listening to music back on the N93i.....
.....is this even possible?
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Well yes to the pairing to two sperate devices, and no to the 'very good sound quality but aren't humongous'. The Promate PM-2006 headset is a 'medium' sized' 'medium to good quality' folding headset with mike. Pair it to both units then disable the function you don't want it to do on whichever phone (under BT settings). It will halt audio and answer the call from the other unit. These headphones were primarily developed to use with a BT mp3 players with capability to connect to your mobile phone but WM phones do both!

Using 2 devices at once with Bluetooth stereo headphones
LeShin said:
ok, I've something else to add.....well asK
Is there any bluetooth stereo heaphones (with very good sound quality but aren't humongous so as to make me look like a Martian ) that can pair with two devices at once?
For example, I have two phones which support A2DP and I use one as my music phone (Nokia N93i) but also use the TYTN 2 as my business phone. What I want is to be listening to my Nokia N93i through the earphones, and If my TYTN 2 rings, the music pauses so I can speak to the caller on the TYTN 2 then revert back to listening to music back on the N93i.....
.....is this even possible?
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Look at the Jabra BT8010. They're a little large, but have the advantage of using it in mono or stereo mode, as well as connecting to 2 devices simultaneously.

Incidentally, Seidio makes earphones that end in the proprietary htc mini-usb format. Haven't tested them out, but they're the only other ones i know of that don't need a converter.

Another vote for iTech Clip Radio. Works awesome with my Ultimate Ears Super fi 5 Extended Bass buds.

I bought Kyocera from here: http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=204239053&loc=111&pageFormat=20&rs=1&#cReviews
The best headphones I ever bought and have the most functionality. The only problem that some people might have is the look and size of the headphones. I have not charged the headphones for a month now and still running on standby.
- TKN

has anyone tried any Sony bluetooth stereo headset?

LeShin said:
ok, I've something else to add.....well asK
Is there any bluetooth stereo heaphones (with very good sound quality but aren't humongous so as to make me look like a Martian ) that can pair with two devices at once?
For example, I have two phones which support A2DP and I use one as my music phone (Nokia N93i) but also use the TYTN 2 as my business phone. What I want is to be listening to my Nokia N93i through the earphones, and If my TYTN 2 rings, the music pauses so I can speak to the caller on the TYTN 2 then revert back to listening to music back on the N93i.....
.....is this even possible?
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I think it might be possible using the Sony Erickson BT Earphone Stereo set. Check FleaBay... They got them cheaper than anywhere else. ( BT phone would have to be close to you, just disable the bluetooth on N93i, however The Sony Er unit has a 3.5 jack that can be plugged into the N93i, just marry the TytnII to the bluetooth)

If you marry to phones BT to the headset, and if you get a call from one while listening to music from the other, you will hear both the caller voice and the music at the same time. Jabra is one headset that I know of that can accept two devices, however when tried, I heard the device playing music however the music volume was very low while I talked on the phone. Not a great setup but might do the trick.

Connect two bluetooth headsets?

Is it possible to connect TWO bluetooth headsets (of the same make and model) And have the tilt recognize both as 1 A2DP headset? I like the Jabra 8010 headset but its a bit pricey

Easy answer: Nope.
And even if you could you'd have crap "voice" quality and not high quality audio.

K, i assumed it wouldnt be possible, but wanted to check. Thanks

A2DP problem using sony BLUETOOTH headset

Morning All !!
Currently i have the HTC fuze (AT&T) aka Diamond. I just purchase the sony bluetooth headset DR-BT160AS. I have tried everyway possible i can think of to get more sound out of these headphones. It sound like im listening to music threw a bottle next door in MONO. I tryed adjusting the preset ( audio booster) with the help of tweaksdiamond. Nothing but here the knock why is it when i have the audio adapter plug into the phone i can get great sound and adjust the presets, But threw the bluetooth i get mono sound with no adjustments. Its pairs wirless headset, hands free, it work the fucntions of changing the track and adjusting volume and i can recive calls.... but with poor sound.
programs used :
blue audio
tweaksdiamond
Has anyone had this issue using wirless bluetooth stereo headsets w/a2dp enabled.
@LPHAR56 -aka- do you hear me now "HELL NO!"

I have a pair of Sony DR-BT140Q and they work/sound really great every time. They're not the same kind, but maybe yours are defective?
Try pairing it with a laptop or any other device to see if you get the same results

thanks i try to do it with a laptop. if i can see if it just my pair having issues.. just can figure out the issue