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Is there anyway to, as they say 'overclock' the wizard. It's a great PPC/phone, but runs quite slow. Thanks. [/b]
try the search button. use querry "omap"
The utility in this thread is what you need: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=55782
It works on the Wizard, Charmer and Prophet. After installing you should find that you can run your device at 260Mhz rather than the factory set 195. 8)
Was able to download the battery-plug-in software. didn't damage anything on my wizard, but am not realy sure if it increased the speed or not. stil seems mighty slow.
You'll find this by searching too, scattered about. Programs like SPB Diary, SPB Pocket Plus make the Wizard sluggish even when you've overclocked. I learned the hard way to be very choosy about programs that run automatically. Today agenda, SPB weather, PHM Traylaunch and Batterystatus are the only things on my today screen. Smartskey insures that practically nothing is running in the background. I have the latest rom, and I used Xelencin's version (now my own version) so that I have much more space on the device. The effect of all this is that my device is very snappy, except when it decides it needs to talk with the network at length and a good 15 seconds can go by while it does something with the network. Then it just doesn't do anything for 15 seconds, which seems like an eternity when you are about to show someone something, need to check an address or phone number, etc. But 90% of my complaints went away when I eliminated automatic programs, many of which I'd spent money on. It isn't that these programs don't offer functionality, they do, but most of that functionality is also offered by programs that have a smaller footprint.
You'll find this by searching too, scattered about. Programs like SPB Diary, SPB Pocket Plus make the Wizard sluggish even when you've overclocked. I learned the hard way to be very choosy about programs that run automatically. Today agenda, SPB weather, PHM Traylaunch and Batterystatus are the only things on my today screen. Smartskey insures that practically nothing is running in the background. I have the latest rom, and I used Xelencin's version (now my own version) so that I have much more space on the device. The effect of all this is that my device is very snappy, except when it decides it needs to talk with the network at length and a good 15 seconds can go by while it does something with the network. Then it just doesn't do anything for 15 seconds, which seems like an eternity when you are about to show someone something, need to check an address or phone number, etc. But 90% of my complaints went away when I eliminated automatic programs, many of which I'd spent money on. It isn't that these programs don't offer functionality, they do, but most of that functionality is also offered by programs that have a smaller footprint.
I like SPB Diary and Pocket Plus though. Between the larger cache trick and OCing it with battery status, the speed is fine for me. It was a mite too slow without the OC.
After using it for a little less than half a day, I do feel that there is some improvement in terms of speed. However, it still pales in comparison with the xda mini which I used to use. Is this the maximum speed that the wizard can process?
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Do you have omap running? I run mine at 247MHz but some people are running as high as 260 and report stability.
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Do you have omap running? I run mine at 247MHz but some people are running as high as 260 and report stability.
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Yes - 260Mhz is just fine. 8)
I use omapclock and clock to 264 MHz with it, rock solid at that speed, but higher speeds are no go. The battery plugin shows 286 MHz when omapclock says 264 though
Yeah, have mine running at 260mhz, but don't see much improvement still. Am i doing something wrong? I copied the cab file into the main memory (but not directly into the windows folder), then executed it.
Yeah, have mine running at 260mhz, but don't see much improvement still. Am i doing something wrong? I copied the cab file into the main memory (but not directly into the windows folder), then executed it.
How do you know it is at 260?
If you use batterystatus, you can toggle back and forth from 260 to 195. That way you know if it is running and how fast. It doesn't need to be in Windows; mine is in My Documents/Programs. But it needs to be turned on; it is off by default even if installed, which is why I asked.
If it is, then other than the missing drivers, then the chances are that either a subset of Kaisers, or roms, or third party apps are causing some devices to be a LOT slower than others.
There are people claiming that their devices take three seconds to change orientation. They also claim that you can actually see the icons being "drawn" on the screen.
As a happy Kaiser owner, I have never experienced anything like that (except when syncing over USB - when the device pretty much stops responding for the first few seconds of syncing and then returns to normal.
Changing to landscape on mine take approx 0.3 seconds (I say approx as its too quick to actually time).
Now I made a horrible error. I tried to point out to the defensive people over on the classaction thread that if their device was really that bad, they could try a different rom and see if that makes their device better. I didnt argue that "the" drivers weren;t missing or that their devices would be fine without them. All I did was try to get some research to see if there was an obvious group of devices or roms or apps that was causing the problem.
If like me, you prefer to sort these things out - rather than wait for a year for a class action - then try the benchmarking test in my sig and post your results and rom details. Hopefully, we can find the cause of the major differences in performance.
My device scored 1643 overall.
He's right, people should start blaming the device for everything. Bring back the days when you'd clean up your device when you'd feel it being slow.
Mine is in 1680 or so as well.
Unwired 4,
Can you perhaps provide a detailed list of all the applications you have on your phone?
I ask you this because I don't have alot of apps on my phone; mainly Googlemaps, livesearch, TCPMP, Dutty 1 calc, HTC Album, Opera mini and Palringo.
I don't have any SPB products clogging up my today screen with its numerous shortcuts. I haven't tweaked my clock appearance and I'm using the original windows blue background on my today screen.
My phone looks pretty similar to when it was bought yet I have noticed a lag, even when it comes to changing the screen orientation from portrait to landscape. It takes roughly one second. Sometimes opening an application takes forever, and closing it down to.
I had an issue with video playback, but the member 'Audio' and co offered settings which greatly improved movie playback. So that’s one tiny area fixed
What are you doing on your device which is causing your phone to run so fluidly?
I was happy with my device running the stock Orange Rom. It was quicker than my Hermes running the Black Majik rom. I recently flashed the V3 Dutty Rom and its a little faster - not much though.
I have a 4gb microsd card that I install most apps on. I use the HTC Home screen - with no other plug ins.
See below for screen grabs of installed programs.
Underwired 4,
Thanks for the response. I have an 8GB memory card, and I install all my applications on this card, and not on the device memory. The only thing I've installed on the device memory, that I can recall, is the PIE fix, and the slight fix for the camera. That is all. Everything else goes onto my 8GB storage card, of which I have over 5GB of memory left over. From the looks of it, I have more device storage memory than you do, but slightly less programme memory than you.
My free storage memory reads: 112.76 MB
My free programme memory: 48.54 MB
I’m left scratching my head...
Graphics Test 1 1060
Others Test 2 1730
JPEG Test 3 2246
Games Test 4 1261
Sound Test 5 0669
Final Score: 1393
246810 said:
My free storage memory reads: 112.76 MB
My free programme memory: 48.54 MB
I’m left scratching my head...
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I have scratched my head about this before too. I tested this last night and if you take the card OUT, you will see a BIG increase in your memory.
My feeling is that maybe if you have shortcuts on the phone TO those apps on the card, at boot time, the phone reads all of those and maybe that is what does it? Or 1 or 2 of those apps on the card load (somehow) on the boot up.
I hope I explained that correctly
Here's my list (doesn't have all I have installed) and it's not slow whatsoever.
My VSbenchmark overall result is 1600-something.. I'm really using it, and Kaiser is coping with it with no problems.. my Wizard would beg for mercy at this point.
MirrorminD said:
Graphics Test 1 1060
Others Test 2 1730
JPEG Test 3 2246
Games Test 4 1261
Sound Test 5 0669
Final Score: 1393
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Thanks Mirror. Where are you? What device is it (ie tilt, tytn2 vario3) and which rom?
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Underwired 4,
Thanks for the response. I have an 8GB memory card, and I install all my applications on this card, and not on the device memory. The only thing I've installed on the device memory, that I can recall, is the PIE fix, and the slight fix for the camera. That is all. Everything else goes onto my 8GB storage card, of which I have over 5GB of memory left over. From the looks of it, I have more device storage memory than you do, but slightly less programme memory than you.
My free storage memory reads: 112.76 MB
My free programme memory: 48.54 MB
I’m left scratching my head...
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Have you run any tweaking programs to set page pools etc? Such as Kasier Tweak or Shaps advanced config tool?
Mines a bit random.
Sometimes about 1 second, sometimes more. Sometimes it redaws off center and has to draw again. Seems to take longer when sliding the keyboard back in than it does the other way.
Can't say it really annoys me too much... I just wait for it
unwired4 said:
I was happy with my device running the stock Orange Rom. It was quicker than my Hermes running the Black Majik rom. I recently flashed the V3 Dutty Rom and its a little faster - not much though.
I have a 4gb microsd card that I install most apps on. I use the HTC Home screen - with no other plug ins.
See below for screen grabs of installed programs.
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Since you seem to be on a mission, please provide us video of your screen rotation. Actually 2 videos; one with only today screen showing and one with any program open on it. If im on Today, the screen rotates in about a sec, but if I have i.e. Opera Mini open it takes 3 sec at least.
I just said on the classaction.org thread that i had a friends Ipaq 6915 for few days and the difference in speed, i.e. opening programs menu is obvious.
Im still running Duttys WWE lite rom with Spb Pocket Plus + Diary + weather, S2U2, WkTask, TC, Office, Live etc installed. On my today i have only 4 quick launch icons and the Spb Diary.
BTW. Its a joke playing even Spb Arkball on the Kaiser...
foobar1977 said:
Sometimes it redaws off center and has to draw again. I just wait for it
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Yes, that happens, especially if there is some program running....
graphics: 1084
others: 1831
jpeg: 2286
games: 1284
sound: 0681
final score: 1433
Stock Tilt Rom, without the AT&T software.
The only mission I am on is to imporve the plight of the unhappy Kaiser owners.
Despite accusations of being an HTC spy etc etc, I just want to back up that my happiness with my device is due to it responding as fast as I need it to- which may also explain why HTC think the device is fast enough.
(Am trying to shoot vids now. Opera Mini will always take longer to redraw as its a java app inside a midlet mgr).
Sane said:
I just said on the classaction.org thread that i had a friends Ipaq 6915 for few days and the difference in speed, i.e. opening programs menu is obvious.
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Just for the record, my fiancee's Wizard (used to be mine) is a faster when opening menus and redrawing the screen. Why? It's running WM5 stock ROM with almost nothing on it but basic functions. The today screen is empty. Only thing it has is S2U2 running on background (so that her purse doesn't keep calling me).
My Kaiser is filled with stuff, as you can see screenshots on my previous post in page 1.. and it's a it slower.. delay of 0.4 seconds doesn't bother me.
sharpja said:
graphics: 1084
others: 1831
jpeg: 2286
games: 1284
sound: 0681
final score: 1433
Stock Tilt Rom, without the AT&T software.
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It seems that reflashing to Dutty's v3 ROM makes it a bit faster. And, splitting hairs, replacing ati_d3d.dll to the one from LG seems (judging by VS benchmarks) to make it a tiny little bit faster as well.
Really bad quality videos... sorry! Did them in a rush on my old sony digital camera. Focussing would have helped...
Switching in today - portrait to landscape is faster than I am! Back to portrait takes nearly a second.
Switching and scrolling through emails.
My "stock" Kaiser - ATT Tilt -with a few apps installed and running Hotsynch to get my corporate mail, I scored the following:
Test 1 - 1067
Test 2 - 1772
Test 3 - 2176
Test 4 - 1244
Test 5 - 0786
Final Score - 1409
I got 1441 after soft reset with HotSynch running to synch mail wirelessly, then removed hotsynch and got 1509.
So, I guess I need to go ahead and flash my ROM.
I am new to the site and have to start reading the threads and getting familiar, but to jumpstart me, is there a "best" or "most used" ROM and Cab config that is popular and stable amongst the group? I saw a touchflow video on youtube - do many of them have that?
Tom
pearsth said:
I am new to the site and have to start reading the threads and getting familiar, but to jumpstart me, is there a "best" or "most used" ROM and Cab config that is popular and stable amongst the group? I saw a touchflow video on youtube - do many of them have that?
Tom
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Welcome, Tom =)
Most used ones are probably Dutty's v3 ROM and Alex's Home ROM. Also, many of our "most famous" cooks are testing and creating stable ROMs that run WM 6.1.. so if you want, you can just wait for a bit and reflash 6.1 ROM.
Thought I would post my findings regarding the flashing dependency I have been drawn into.
Had my HD since December last year and have flash numerous roms in an attempt to get both new features, better looks and primarily more speed.
However after installing my base apps I was continually suffering a senario of lag. Click this. Wait. Click again, oops was working. I am primarily a business user. Contacts, email, calendar and secondly I use the GPS heaps. 4wding etc.
I finally gave up and took a new path. Flashed JohnPatchers bare rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472972
Only addition apart from reg keys is the HTC dialer. No other htc, ms or after market apps.
Synced it as is with exchange. 300+ contacts. Heaps of emails and contacts.
Wow. Everything is instantaneous. More than 200% faster. Click to make a phone call and it is there. Respond to emails are as fast as I can navigate. Zero lag at all compared to 1-2 sec before for a response.
I now set the speed of my phone. Also apps load significantly faster. Tomtom loads in half the time. Oziexplorer again over 50% and panning and loading new maps are very fast. file explorer. 2 secs on windows folder (Show all)
Basically on top of the John Patcher rom I have installed
Azharsunny touch response
HTC connection setup
Oziexplorer
Touchpal KB (No other keyboards with this rom)
File explorer ext
MicNeo taskbar extensions
Ryans phone logger
Tomtom
SPB mobile shell 3.0
After running for two days the thing is still snappy. love it.
I've been trying to find something about the subject but no luck so I'm posting it here.
I'm not sure if it's just a case of my D2 but the RAM consumption is extremely high. After about 48hrs since the last soft reset, with no application running, the RAM consumtion is whopping 74%!?!?! Reading from the windows Memory card is saying: Program: Total 183.73MB, In use 134.71, Free 49.02MB. Out of supposed 288MB of RAM on D2 this looks quite scary to me, I'm experiencing slowdowns of the system when I'm switching between Opera, Mail, ocassional phone call and Contacts. I hope my D2 is not faulty, but I'd like to hear from you guys if this is a common thing or a problem with my D2. I compared with my colleague's Touch Pro and he's never nowhere near these figures, he gets max to 50%, if that.
Any help is appreciated.
yeah, she's a leaker. I'm sure your device is fine. I think Opera chews up a lot. I notice bigger drops after using Opera.
Have you tried using CleanRam? You'll be pleased with its performance. I usually run it once a day or so and it keeps the memory 50% or lower.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-cleanram.html
The Single biggest thing you can do to speed up your TD2 and release a lot of that RAM is to switch off TF3D. It's a much better phone without it in so many ways.
WMguy said:
yeah, she's a leaker. I'm sure your device is fine. I think Opera chews up a lot. I notice bigger drops after using Opera.
Have you tried using CleanRam? You'll be pleased with its performance. I usually run it once a day or so and it keeps the memory 50% or lower.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-cleanram.html
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this one worked for me..sktools seems dont have enough privilege to kill some exclusive task. One main culprit is opera running in the background all the time..
I have been worried about what I thought was very high memory usage since I've had my TD2. Mine seems to settle at about 75%.
I have also noticed this drops to about 55% with TF3D turned off. As I like the TF3D interface a lot I'm not willing to lose it for the memory gains. I have tried running memory intensive apps like TomTom with TF3D on and off and there doesn't seem to be any significant difference.
I have been using Oxios CloseApps to free up memory. This work pretty well, but I'm going to give CleanRam a go, and see how it compares.
WMguy said:
yeah, she's a leaker. I'm sure your device is fine. I think Opera chews up a lot. I notice bigger drops after using Opera.
Have you tried using CleanRam? You'll be pleased with its performance. I usually run it once a day or so and it keeps the memory 50% or lower.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-cleanram.html
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Many thanks, buddy, the app works a treat! D2 still manages to get to 75% of memory usage after a day or so but at least I don't have to restart to get to down 60%. It is still weird though, 75% of RAM constantly in use without an intervention - is this the way it was designed or just a poorly tuned ROM?
My TD2 stick %64-65 level after one week usage without soft reset .. Even with TF3D
Daily used programs are;
Opera *****
Youtube ***
Chronos alarm * (3 alarm set for morning.. also chrono and timer sometimes..)
iGO8 *
Resco File explorer *
Resco Photo Viewer *
GS Finder *
Pocket Music ***
Pocket Player * (for mono bluetooth headset music transfer at gym )
Core Player ***
Mobibook **
Several games **
* Stars indicate usage frequency for daily usage...
...but i'm upgrade my 1.39 stock rom to new asia 1.40... Before upgrade, it's like yours %75 memory usage or above.. 1.40 rom seems reduce memory consumption..
cassper1 said:
Many thanks, buddy, the app works a treat! D2 still manages to get to 75% of memory usage after a day or so but at least I don't have to restart to get to down 60%. It is still weird though, 75% of RAM constantly in use without an intervention - is this the way it was designed or just a poorly tuned ROM?
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Well interesting...my HTC Raphael never goes over 55% and have similar apps in use as you do...
Mine usually is around 55%-60%.
Can I ask how you close opera? Do you just hit the x or do you exit from the menue. i have noticed that when I exit through the menue the ram percent drops significantly. I also saw an increase in batterey when I started exiting through the menue and not the x button.
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Well interesting...my HTC Raphael never goes over 55% and have similar apps in use as you do...
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I already mentioned that in the very first post.. My colleague's Rafael rarely gets over 50%, that's why I started to wonder if there's something wrong with my Topaz
Compared to the Raphael, the TD2 has more memory consuming apps, such as having the Enhanced TF3D with much more functions including the new start menu, new contacts center, new notifications & a higher resolution screen to name a few.
Don't worry about it
Free memory is wasted memory.
Your device should be using all the memory it can to cache all that it can and keep as many of your applications running as possible. That's how your device can switch between apps quickly. If you start another app which requires more memory than is currently available, WM will close one of the least used applications to make room. Until you start that second app, there's no point at all in closing the first one just so that the free/unused/wasted memory figure is increased. Symbian devices have had this behaviour for years and in fact it's been in place in WM for quite a few versions. Glad to hear that HTC's TF3D is making better use of it.
As it happens, Vista now adopts this policy, compared to previous desktop Windows versions: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000688.html.
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i have noticed that when I exit through the menue the ram percent drops significantly. I also saw an increase in batterey when I started exiting through the menue and not the x button.
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This is the ticket with Opera at least. I noticed today that if you tap the X button, it will disappear from the HTC Task Manager so you think it's closed. However, I have SPB Mobile Shell 3.0 and also use its built in task manager assigned to one of my hard buttons. When the HTC TM shows no Opera running, I bring up the SPB one and sure enough it's still running. I wonder if HTC makes an exception to Opera due to the push internet feature so it doesn't appear in the Task Manager.
So, in other words, if you want to close Opera, use the 'Exit' command within the program.
*Any* program can make itself disappear from the user-facing Task List simply by declaring itself as a background task. My own D2 right now is running 14 of these background tasks, including Opera. Think of it like the difference between the "Applications" and "Processes" tabs in the regular Windows Task Manager. It's been suggested that Opera runs all the time to manage the Push Internet pages, although as I've said in an earlier post, there's nothing wrong in it staying around (so long as it's not consuming much CPU/battery), so that it's ready to be pushed to the front immediately when the user requires it.
You can make those "Back Ground" applications appear in the HTC Task Manager by deleting (or renaming) their names in the following registry:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\TaskManager\ExclusiveList\System\
I'm facing lots of dificulties to use the built-in acceleromenter in the Diamond2, this is my first device with an accelerometer, so, might be my fault.
I found the utility most convinient to write emails or sms, but when I'm reading, the screen turns landscape all of a sudden with a brief movement when I want it portrait and when I want landscape for writting, not always turns, it's not very responsive and unreliable.
is this normal? is there a way to fix behaviour so always read in portrait mode and write in landscape?
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Maybe a little too easy BUT: did you calibrate the G-sensor???
yes I did
imho it is not the g-sensor that is not reliable, it is just that going from portrait to landscape is very slow on the TD2, and depend on application and free memory: it can go from slow to extremely slow to more or less crashing TouchFlo3D. I think it is software related, and may be corrected in the future by rom updates or cooked roms...
good to know is not my device, and that I can expect improvement with next roms
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Not sure if having it more sensitive or responsive would be a plus. You could get the screen switching back and forth with just minor movements and that will definitely impede functionality.
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imho it is not the g-sensor that is not reliable, it is just that going from portrait to landscape is very slow on the TD2, and depend on application and free memory: it can go from slow to extremely slow to more or less crashing TouchFlo3D. I think it is software related, and may be corrected in the future by rom updates or cooked roms...
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Yes, I think this is the problem. Because the device is running Windows at heart, I suspect that it's using virtual memory in the same way as a PC. When you tilt, it suddently needs to swap some task out, get some new code and execute it - and this operation isn't quick.
I read somewhere that the iPhone is gaining the ability to run more than one task at once. I never realised it couldn't do this - get a real operating system ;-) But I suppose the advantage it does bring is that the one task that can run can do so with full system resources. Swings and roundabouts.
Just a guess...
Cheers, Rob.
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Yes, I think this is the problem. Because the device is running Windows at heart, I suspect that it's using virtual memory in the same way as a PC. When you tilt, it suddently needs to swap some task out, get some new code and execute it - and this operation isn't quick.
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Whilst it's called Windows, there's very little if any shared codebase between Windows CE and desktop Windows. It runs on a different CPU instruction set, with very different requirements and restrictions. AFAIAA, there's no virtual memory system like there is on real windows, processes get told to shutdown when there is a memory shortage. Personally I suspect the reason for the delay is that when you change the rotation you also effectively change the resolution (since it's not a square screen), and Opera has to reposition all of its controls and menus etc.. which takes a second or so.
Windows mobile certainly does have virtual memory:
http://blogs.msdn.com/lokeuei/archi...anding-virtual-memory-for-windows-mobile.aspx
Cheers, Rob.
My apologies, when the OP referred to "swapping a task out", I thought he was referring to program or user data being written out to a page file on disk which AIUI doesn't happen in CE. Sure each process has a virtual address space and binaries are dragged in and released but that's not what I thought he was referring to... maybe he was so apologies again. Interesting articles though.. I need to read them and refresh when I get the time...!
On Phone Calls
I find it annoying when it goes into landscape mode during and after calls, I have to keep shaking it to rotate