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Setting default input and keeping it.

Ok I have searched and not run across anything without reading every thread in here.
How do I change my default input method from keyboard to letter recognizer and MAKE it stick.
I change it i the input menu and reg edits but every time I soft reset it is back.

...we're on the same boat :?

Join the club!
I'm after the phone pad so I can still use the 8125/Wiz screen as a normal phone keypad at times and not have to whip out the stylus.

whatever you do, dont use registry wizard to set it... I white screened a week ago doing that, hard reset

hope to find a solution

Perhaps this:
HKCU\ControlPanel\SIP
DefaultIM {42429667-.... or one of the others {42429690- {42429691-
Look in the neighborhoud HKCR\CLSID\{424296...... for the others.
Cheers
edit: In case it wasn't clear you need to fill in the whole CLSID in the DefaultIM string value. So {42429667- including the } at the end.
It should work after a soft reset (gone with a hard reset)

Any Solutions to this yet?
Thanks
Jules

I'm joining the club too
I'm on a Charmer, I used to able to change the Letter Reg SIP as default before I upgraded my ROM. I thought I'm the only one.

i'm triing to change the reg value with total commander and with wizard reg but after a restart the phone hang on white screen... someone can help me?
i want to use nullkb as default probably is not possible?

jmel said:
whatever you do, dont use registry wizard to set it... I white screened a week ago doing that, hard reset
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hrm.....
dromico said:
i'm triing to change the reg value with total commander and with wizard reg but after a restart the phone hang on white screen... someone can help me?
i want to use nullkb as default probably is not possible?
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cant say i didnt warn you?

jmel said:
cant say i didnt warn you?
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yes but i make a hard reset after the first try (manually change registry with tcmd) and i try in another way...white screen in every try

lost in translation...
I was saying that if you TRY to use registry wizard to set it, you will get a white screen, and be left having to HARD RESET....

Not the best solution, but perhaps you could use my program SwitchSip to change the SIP on every soft reset. I don't know if it'll stick though, I've never tried...
V
http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=sipswitch

thanks i try with your program, i never search the forum enough if i don't found your post.
i don't know why there is no possiblity to change default IM in the WM configuration.

Everything is listed here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other "Set default SIP"

tweakradje said:
Everything is listed here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other "Set default SIP"
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I think we've all tried the method. Read the posts above carefully.

Just as a problem recap: the default SIP reghack no longer works on AKU2 ROMS. The kbd default occurs after a soft reset no matter what you have changed the registry value to.
I'm working on this one too. I coded up a program that quickly set the SIP to block recognizer and exited figuring I could just add it to the startup programs folder to switch over after a soft reset.
However, while this program works just great normally, it doesn't change the SIP when run at startup. I am working on why this is, currently. So far I've determined that my program is able to find the block recognizer SIP so the SIP dll is loaded. Tomorrow I may get a few more minutes to work on it. I'll code my program to check to see if it correctly set the SIP to block recognizer and re-attempt to change until it's successful. I'm guessing that this will have no effect on the issue since my current working theory is that the kbd default is set sometime after the startup programs run.

Guys, I don't know whether my app worked or not, but this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=317635#317635
seems to suggest it did. I don't have a wizard to test it on though
V

@vijay555:
I've got my little app set up on my today screen so I can just tap it quickly after everything's loaded to change my sip but it won't work if I drop it into my startup folder.
Perhaps this is what the poster you refer to is doing? Does your program check the default SIP using SipGetCurrentIM after you switch to see if the operation worked? Or do you just check for an error code after calling SipSetCurrentIM. Me, I'm just checking for an error currently and am not getting one.

Sleuth255: I really can't remember how I did it, I wrote it in c++ before I could program in c++, somehow. I'm on a promise to rewrite it sometime, and turn it into VJSipSwitch, for now it's merely a bastard child.
However, despite this, it's also designed to be configured as a shortcut to be launched from a hardware key or shortcut... if it becomes an issue, I'll look over the code again.
V

Registry problem

Dear All,
Anyone have same problem after change registry key and wait a few mins, but after soft reset a setting can't be save and back to the original key.
Thanks!

chenge the reg, then press the power button(device goes on standby), then wait 15 seconds(at least), then press reset

xplode said:
chenge the reg, then press the power button(device goes on standby), then wait 15 seconds(at least), then press reset
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Tried same as, use "Resco Registry". Thanks!

xplode said:
chenge the reg, then press the power button(device goes on standby), then wait 15 seconds(at least), then press reset
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Dear xplode,
I tried more than 10 times still can't memory registry changed. Do you know is any program installed will cause this problem.
Thanks a lot.

You have very strange issue, i do my registry editings with Resco mostly
have you thought about that some software may change the registry entryes or keys on bootup to the way they like, and even if you change them on reboot the entryes are lost
try to change reg's to a clean rom, it is software issue but i am not sure which software makes this

athena99 said:
Anyone have same problem after change registry key and wait a few mins, but after soft reset a setting can't be save and back to the original key.Thanks!
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Just curious, which registry keys?
There's also a possibility that programs "auto-loading" during startup might be causing the problem.
I've been using the freeware reg editors from PHM & .Fred's Task Manager & both works in "all" of the AKU 3.5 ROMS here.
You may try to install the test cab attached which changes the label of your left & right softkeys to Test1 & Test2 respectively. Changes are effective immediately, soft reset & see if it gets retained.

xplode said:
You have very strange issue, i do my registry editings with Resco mostly
have you thought about that some software may change the registry entryes or keys on bootup to the way they like, and even if you change them on reboot the entryes are lost
try to change reg's to a clean rom, it is software issue but i am not sure which software makes this
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Thanks xplode, I waiting for you latest 3.5 rom and test it.

How to remap Tilt Push To Talk button

This will drive me crazy. I have had the button above the volume mapped to Voice Command ever since I can remember. Now for the Tilt, it is mapped to Push to talk which I will never, ever use and the button mapping does not allow you to reassign it. Does anyone know if this is possible with any of the button manager programs? Do I need to flash the Kaiser ROM for this?
Also, the 8125 had a feature where you held this button down and it would swap the sound over to vibrate. If anyone knows how to get this working on the Kaiser, I highly recommend it. Beats having to pull the phone out of the holster/case to silence it, especially in a meeting.

Search for the answer.... It is here.

tried searching on push to talk. searching on buttons brings back a ton of results, none of which are specific to this particular problem. any suggestions on where to search and for what term or phrase?
Update, I found one... over in the hermes forum. This would be a good addition to the cab list sticky now that more folks are getting the AT&T ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279585&highlight=push+to+talk+map
I'll update after I have tried it on the Tilt

PTTFix work fine per the tread reference above but even though it allows you to assign a program to press and hold, there is no program "per se" to enact the vibrate setting. I do see this option on the HTC Home Screen though so maybe it is possible to create a shortcut in the Program Files directory and call it indirectly. I'll try this later when I have some time, but if anyone else gets to it first, please do share. TIA

this will do it for you.

I was never a fan of PTT anyway... Thanks for the CAB Tim. Works like a charm. For those curious, the option to select Vibra switch will be found under Settings > Buttons. Remap Button 6 to Vibra (Switch).

Spoke too soon. The PTTFix cab showed the buttons under the setting window, but after setting them, it still brought up the PTT screen. I though perhaps it needed a soft reset, and after doing so the ability to remap the PTT button disappeared.
isdereks, did you try this on the Tilt or the Kaiser? I am thinking the latter, since the PTTFix.cab shows the PTT button as a second button 5. Perhaps this is part of the problem of why it looks like it allows the setting, but doesn't actually work.
Bummer. I am quite disappointed. On top of all the bloatware, you get a button that launches an app that immediately errors out as I am not a PTT subscriber. HTC and MS should be pissed that AT&T is making the iPhone look like a clear winner. Pretty soon Apple will be running comercials with the big bloated guy for the iPhone too.

Sorry forgot to mention that I did this on the Kaiser.

yeah the new PTTFix did not work on my tilt, but worked great on my 8525. I hope this gets updated for the tilt.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334759

yeah tried all that and the reg settings do not stay after phone is shut down.

Worked for me. You have to read the whole post.
For my own purposes as well, here are the consolidated steps to take. Until someone improves on this, I keep all this stuff in a directory so I can reconfigure my device as necessary. Here goes...
I think the trick is the PTT settings take precedence when the device boots up so delete the PTT registry settings under HKLM/Services/PTT. Delete the whole sub tree, then
From HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys
Add a new key called "40C6"
Add a string under the key called "Name" with the value "Button 6"
Add a new key called "40C7"
Add a string under this key called "Name" with the value "Button 6 (hold)"
(Note, do not enter the quotes, thare are to delimit what belongs in the registry entry)
Go to the Buttons settings and assign a program to the new entries. I di Voice Dial and Vibra (Switch) from the link earlier in the this post.
Do a soft reset which will remove the PTT settings from the buffer and enable your key changes.
Thanks for all the help.
I'd say the only caveat is if you some day want to use the PTT features, it would be a good idea to take an inventory fo what is under the PTT node in the registry.

It worked "GREAT". Thanks and so easy even I could do it

Instead of deleting the "PTT" key, i suggest simply renaming it to "PTTbak". That way you can just rename it back to "PTT" if you ever need to use it.
Thats what i did, and it works fine.
BTW, excellent work everyone. After upgrading to the tilt from the 8525 i lost 2 side buttons (comm manager button and the PTT button)... now i've got at least one back!

Maybe someone could offer a suggestion. For the life of me, I cannot get the reg entries of 40C6 and 40C7 to stick. I am using PHM Registry Editor. I am powering down and back up. Anyone have any suggestions?

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Maybe someone could offer a suggestion. For the life of me, I cannot get the reg entries of 40C6 and 40C7 to stick. I am using PHM Registry Editor. I am powering down and back up. Anyone have any suggestions?
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did you delete the ptt key? (or at least rename as was suggested above?)
if you did try using the phone for while after you make the registry changes - run some other programs - then power down
greg

Greg, I renamed it and then nothing would happen. no button map and no PTT action. I am about ready to give up. But I will try your suggestions. Thanks.

NOw I got the PTT action back (the PTT screen pops up) but I cannot get the the button to do anything. I made the hold vibra and the direct push VC. Now nothing happens. Not sure what I did wrong. Not a noob at reg edits and I don't see anything wrong.
Oh well, not that big a deal, but am still open for more suggestions.

i tried renaming the PTT registry key and it didnt work. actually deleting it worked.

REG PTT
After doing the reg posted above the PTT button is free but you will notice after you push it, before the new app assigned to it pops up you will see the ptt screen for a second. What if the phone things you are using the ptt function and not Voice command or Viigo like I am?

First Post / KeyLock

Hey everybody! This is my first post on the xda-developers forums and I thought I'd make it a useful one. I attached the first WinMo6 application I made for my Tilt. It's a program which locks your keypad with the standard PIN prompt and quits. It's use? Lock your phone and set it to standby with two keys and no stylus.
Reason I wrote it? The second day I got the Tilt I found that the concept of being unable to lock the phone without the stylus confused and infuriated me.
Here's how you use it:
1. Download the .Zip file to your computer.
2. Extract the contents and copy the contained .Exe to your phone
3. Use jgermuga's PTT remap instructions found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1577293&postcount=12
4. For the \HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys\40C7 key set the (Default) value to "\Path\To\KeyLock.exe" (Obviously replace \Path\To\ with the appropriate path, mine was "\Temp\")
5. Also add a string called ResetCmd with the same value.
I used "MobileRegistryEditor" to edit the registry on my Tilt. Also included in the .Zip is the source code in case you want to compile from source, audit the code, or just don't trust me. Compile it yourself if you wish.
With the above steps you can have a simple method to lock and standby your phone: Hold down the PTT talk button for just about 1 second then quickly tap your power button. As soon as the application begins launching your phone is already being locked so you do not have to wait for it to display anything other than the spinning "please wait" wheel. Power it off right away.
This has made my life significantly easier, and I hope it helps yours!
Enjoy
-Anthony

Hmmm, doesn't seem to be working to well for me.
I orginally had setup up the 40C7 to open my "File Manager" (which worked fine)
SO I reset the value to "\Program Files\KeyLock.exe" where I had placed the file.
I ran the program.. it asked me if it was ok to run I told it yes... Scratched my head for a minute wondering what happened.. Went back to the post realized I missed step 5 "5. Also add a string called ResetCmd with the same value."
So I created a new string ResetCmd with the Value "\Program Files\KeyLock.exe" restarted the phone.. when I press the button now the loading thing comes up and the screen seems like it either flashes or flickers.. and nothing happens..
Than tried reseting the phone by pressing the little button at the bottom, after it booted up still no luck.
Let me know your thoughts... ( I used mobile registry editor as well )
What language is this programmed in, I'll just get the software from my work and see if I can play with it a bit...
OH and FYI running AT&T's Stock loaded Windows Mobile 6 Professional.

or you can download devicelock1.2, and map it to one of your hardware buttons. pretty much uses the built in device lock, but it makes it available so you can map it to a button, thus no need to use stylus to lock.
no need to unzip, just drag the file into your phone and install.

NguyenHuu said:
or you can download devicelock1.2, and map it to one of your hardware buttons.
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Where would I get this?

^ i updated my post, its attached now.

Ty, I ended up searching the forums for it and found it. I'll give it shot and post back in a few.

Thanks Device Lock 1.2 Works Like a Champ. TYVM for your help sir.

Hmm whats the deal with the beeping noise right before it initates the locking?
(I take it back, I like the beeping noise..)
Whats the deal with if you have it on EASY unlock. and Black Screen
When you hold down PPT to have it lock... then after it the screen goes black you press ppt again... Your easy lock is than disabled?
(I should probably post this in the Device Lock 1.2 orignal thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305402&highlight=device+lock)

I'm honestly unsure why it would not lock your device although I did set up a numeric PIN for my device which it prompts me to enter. Try running the .exe from the Program Files directory if you're still interested. If it doesn't lock your phone then I'm unsure why.
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Hmmm, doesn't seem to be working to well for me.
I orginally had setup up the 40C7 to open my "File Manager" (which worked fine)
SO I reset the value to "\Program Files\KeyLock.exe" where I had placed the file.
I ran the program.. it asked me if it was ok to run I told it yes... Scratched my head for a minute wondering what happened.. Went back to the post realized I missed step 5 "5. Also add a string called ResetCmd with the same value."
So I created a new string ResetCmd with the Value "\Program Files\KeyLock.exe" restarted the phone.. when I press the button now the loading thing comes up and the screen seems like it either flashes or flickers.. and nothing happens..
Than tried reseting the phone by pressing the little button at the bottom, after it booted up still no luck.
Let me know your thoughts... ( I used mobile registry editor as well )
What language is this programmed in, I'll just get the software from my work and see if I can play with it a bit...
OH and FYI running AT&T's Stock loaded Windows Mobile 6 Professional.
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Yea I had tried that too. But the Device Lock 1.2 seemed to have solved my problem. Thanks though.

Hi:
Sorry if this is a dumb question. When you use DeviceLock, do you still have to press the power button to wake up screen before unlocking? I hate that power button, it is too hard for me to find sometimes lol.
Thanks!

cincy1020 said:
Hi:
Sorry if this is a dumb question. When you use DeviceLock, do you still have to press the power button to wake up screen before unlocking? I hate that power button, it is too hard for me to find sometimes lol.
Thanks!
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when you use device lock, it will lock your phone and dim it, not turn off the screen. so you do not need to press the power button to wake it up before unlocking.
there are options in the settings that will let you turn off the screen when you lock, but i dont think that is what you want. leave that setting unchecked.

starting over

ok new to window mobile. i have tweaked alittle on my phone and am wondering if i did the clear storage and soft reset before the 3 seconds. would that clear all the software i have downloaded and give me a fresh start.

alphadaddy said:
ok new to window mobile. i have tweaked alittle on my phone and am wondering if i did the clear storage and soft reset before the 3 seconds. would that clear all the software i have downloaded and give me a fresh start.
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No you need to hard reset.
https://www.wireless.att.com/suppor...alsCategory=Getting+Started&tutorialId=613850

ok
ok so this will get rid of all the software and cabs exe and read me file and anything else ive put on the phone. after doing this will i be able to sync with outlook for my contacts back. one other thing. i have re mapped my ptt will this be affected due to the program i downloaded to make this happen. file named oem assign ptt button

It will erase everything you have done. The phone will be exactly as it was when you first booted it up. Clean slate.
Oh and yea, you can use activsync to get your contacts back, but I save mine to the sim card as well, just in case.

what about the ptt remapping with some reg edit and program oem assign ptt button

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what about the ptt remapping with some reg edit and program oem assign ptt button
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EVERYTHING THAT IS STORED ON YOUR DEVICE (TWEAKS/PROGRAMS/PORNO)!!!!!!!
Damn

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all registry changes and program installations will be undone. Think of a hard reset as you would think of reinstalling windows on your PC, all settings, programs, etc... are lost. Hope I helped. lataz.

Hard reset will get rid of everything, the boot following the hard reset will be at factory settings - just like if you bought it today.

When the screen says customization starting in 3 seconds, after the hard reset, insert stylus and do a soft reset. That will rid your phone of all the extra AT$T bloatware.