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G3 And G4.. Which one is better or newest? Whats the Different?

we all know that for wizard we got 2 type of chips here ( G3 and G4 ). For me i really don't know which is better or even which one is newest. why it got 2 types here? and also what the different between two of them...
Someone maybe can tell me or for others that dont know about it....

nicholas99 said:
we all know that for wizard we got 2 type of chips here ( G3 and G4 ). For me i really don't know which is better or even which one is newest. why it got 2 types here? and also what the different between two of them...
Someone maybe can tell me or for others that dont know about it....
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G3 and G4 are the chipset used in the Wizard.
G3 Wizards uses a bootloader (IPL/SPL) like 2.xx
G4 Wizards uses a bootloader (IPL/SPL) like 2.xx.0001
Do NOT try to flash a G3 rom on a G4 device and the other way around, you'll wreck your bootloader and will BRICK your Wizard after the 1st boot.
I preffer a G3 Wizard myself, because G3 Wizards can be CID unlocked (if they have an 1.xx IPL/SPL), G4 Wizards cannot be CID unlocked yet...
Molski

install G4 Rom in G3 wzard ?

is it possible ? will it brik the ppc ?? why there is 2 versions of cooked rom G3 and G4 ? 2 many quetions i know !! sorry but if its possible i want 2 understand
regards
excuse my poor english !

hica said:
is it possible ? will it brik the ppc ?? why there is 2 versions of cooked rom G3 and G4 ? 2 many quetions i know !! sorry but if its possible i want 2 understand
regards
excuse my poor english !
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I read your previous posts, where you almost bricked your phone on both occasions, if this is your next trial.........
Read trough all the last posts concerning G4, like search: G4.
Or maybe it's simpler to just drop your phone
answer to your questions: no, yes, because there are G3 and G4 phone's, why.

search: G4 = no result ??? don't understand why ????? you can try yourself !
i've broked my wizard before and had a big chance because iv got annother one from the provider but the new one is a G3 not a G4 as the first
i know it because i haven't the 0001 after IPL 2.21 / SPL 2.21 !
so far i know the G4 cooked ROMs are IPL / SPL free! so we can use them with G3 and G4 wizard. i'm i wrong ?

hica said:
search: G4 = no result ??? don't understand why ????? you can try yourself !
i've broked my wizard before and had a big chance because iv got annother one from the provider but the new one is a G3 not a G4 as the first
i know it because i haven't the 0001 after IPL 2.21 / SPL 2.21 !
so far i know the G4 cooked ROMs are IPL / SPL free! so we can use them with G3 and G4 wizard. i'm i wrong ?
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To be honest, I don't know. But if you have a G3, why you want to put there a G4 ROM.......

I think the search-word musst have at least 4 letters.

hica said:
search: G4 = no result ??? don't understand why ????? you can try yourself !
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You got me there, it's true, tried it: no results.
So if the administrator reads this,.... Why is this not functioning ?

Vilem said:
To be honest, I don't know. But if you have a G3, why you want to put there a G4 ROM.......
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just to be sure there will be no danger for my phone because if the G4 ROM is IPL SPL free this will be more safe for my wizard i'm i wrong ?
and I realy want to understand !!!
ps: i have to upgrade it because it's german ROM and i don't like it, i need English or French ROM

As long as your phone is CID unlocked G3 device then it should be fine. I did flash mine with G4 ROM Risidoro cooked rom and everything runs smoothly.
Except i cannot find the extended_rom in the total commander, i dont know if this is becoz im flashing the G4 Rom onto the G3 device or not.
anyways from the info i got from this site is that, if your phone CID unlocked and G3 chip then you should be free to use any ROMS you want.

I can't say if my phone is CID unlocked or not ? how 2 know ??? before when i had the G4 Wizard i tried with a French rom 2.17 but it coudn't install untill i used nb2nbf to cook it, then i use the same thing with all roms i tried all was Ok till i brok it by downgrading to 1.10 rom i didn't konw that G4 or G3 > 2.21 can't be CID Unlocked !
now they changed my wizard with a new one but it is G3 don't konw why ??? but i have another problème the keypad is "fool " when i press
Q i have ZQ
q=zq
e=ce
i=.i
g=lg
h= h
l=lg
y=zq
c=ce
i think i will return it again but before i have to reflash it with the original ROM. i've download it. i will cook it with Tipho5 + nb2nbf to deleet the IPL & SPL just to avoid briking it again !

I did CID unlocked my G3 with 2.25 IPL/SPL from Cingular:
first, i did the sim unlock using lokiwiz3a: copy the enablerapi.cab on my device, run it, then run the .bat thing from desktop. use sim card from other provider, enter the unlock code. sim unlocked done.
second, downgrade using the custom rom, CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
then I did the CID unlock using lokiwiz2b. again copy the enablerapi.cab, run it..then run the .bat thing from desktop. done. my ipl/spl become: 1.05/2.25 if im not mistaken...anyways after that i did flash it with Molski ROM for G3 device to make the ipl/spl to 2.26.
then lastly after that i did some rom flashing using aku 3.2, molski, and lastly the risidoro one.
i know from this forum that the only know that you know that the CID is unlocked is by flashing with other ROMS (not the ROMS for G4 devices).

I think because your device is 3G all went good happy for you ! but i broke my G4 using exactly as you did, it deads after the first boot when i downgrade to downgrading to CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
so G4 chips don't accept to be downgraded ...
what do you think about the probleme i have in my keypad ?
when i press
Q i have ZQ
q=zq
e=ce
i=.i
g=lg
h= h
l=lg
y=zq
c=ce
and when i press the button 1 for the Messaging = 2 app start in the same time : Messaging and Camera
when i change the button 1 with ( eg: contact ) the 2 app are lunched contact and Camera !!!
is there any solution ? is it a hardware probleme or just a soft ?

Finly the keyboard is ok ! ! ! I oppened my wizard, Disassembled it, cleaned all contactacts and nappes, then Assembled it !
but i still want 2 know the difference between G4 & G3 cooked ROMs .. just IPL& SPL or something else ???

need help to wiza200

wiza200 unlock need
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hi guys
this phone possible unlock? wiza200
rom version 2.21.26WWE
rom date 3/9/06
radio version 02.19.11
protocol version 4.1.19.09
please help me. G4 or G3
thanks a lot

search forum, lokiwiz, and read the wiki (top) on Wizard section.

i see in forum, but i don't now my phone g3 or g4. tell me
thanks a lot

siemens man said:
i see in forum, but i don't now my phone g3 or g4. tell me
thanks a lot
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Just use the search to find.......
It's so easy......tok me just 30 seconds to find!!!!
Trythis: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/

If your IPL and SPL looks like X.XX you have a G3
If they look like X.XX.000X you have a G4
btw, you can see the IPL and SPL right after you soft-reset your device
enjoy

hi guys
thank you for reply mail, i think my phone G4 rom version, possible unlock ????
help me
thanks a lot

siemens man said:
hi guys
thank you for reply mail, i think my phone G4 rom version, possible unlock ????
help me
thanks a lot
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For a wizzard i don't know if a g4 can be unlocked.
Otherwise try http://www.imei-check.co.uk/
I unlocked my prophet g4 there with succes.
Good luck

for unlocking a G4...go here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284292

Anybody Help Me..?

HAVING KJAM BOUGHT IN KSA WITHOUT ANY CARRIER WITH IPL 2.16, SPL 2.16, GSM 02.07.10, OS 2.16.9.1 ...CAN I UPGRADE TO FARIA'S WM6..?IF NOT THEN WHAT I NEED?HOW I CAN DO IT!

bilalbutt10 said:
HAVING KJAM BOUGHT IN KSA WITHOUT ANY CARRIER WITH IPL 2.16, SPL 2.16, GSM 02.07.10, OS 2.16.9.1 ...CAN I UPGRADE TO FARIA'S WM6..?IF NOT THEN WHAT I NEED?HOW I CAN DO IT!
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First, get rid of the red font and all uppercase... sheesh...
Second you need to read and read... You need to understand this stuff before you start flashing or you will find yourself with a dead phone.
I know this is a ton of info, but this post has links to all the great stuff here and you can learn just about anything you want.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1206964&postcount=894
Don't expect people to spoon feed you as the stikies and the wiki have everything you need. Just read and learn.

Sorry... can't read in red/caps!

bilalbutt10 said:
HAVING KJAM BOUGHT IN KSA WITHOUT ANY CARRIER WITH IPL 2.16, SPL 2.16, GSM 02.07.10, OS 2.16.9.1 ...CAN I UPGRADE TO FARIA'S WM6..?IF NOT THEN WHAT I NEED?HOW I CAN DO IT!
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where is ksa?

moto211 said:
where is ksa?
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Hmmm. . . Could be any of the following:
Korean Student Association
Kernersville Soccer Association
Kosher Supervision of America
Kansas Sportsmen's Alliance
Knowlton School of Architecture
KARACHI SCHOOL OF ART
Kauai Society of Artists
Kitchen Specialist Association
I'm gonna' vote for the first one on the list, since a Google search for KSA returned more hits for that than any of the others.

Sory for this kind of Font...Studied Enough Now
Hi, i haved been reading on this forum for last many days. for all who dont know KSA - Kingdome of Saudia Arabia.
Red font is just for attention. sory for that.
I have planed to Upgrade my KJam with Faria's WM6. i have read many articles about it. i want to know what Faria Wrote on the Top of his article <[Faria-htc wizard___WWE WM6 ROM- [the real thing] - xda-developers]> in red, <Extended ROM version Faria v5> if i dont have it, then can i proceed with upgrade to his ROM.I need it. Any body plz provide me link for it.
Secondly i need BOOTLOADER VERSION 2XXX OR ABOVE which he wrote must to have.
rest all i have prepared and downloaded. Ready to upgrade after having these two things.
Thanks to all.

bilalbutt10 said:
Hi, i haved been reading on this forum for last many days. for all who dont know KSA - Kingdome of Saudia Arabia.
Red font is just for attention. sory for that.
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Interesting, never heard it referred to that way...
I have planed to Upgrade my KJam with Faria's WM6. i have read many articles about it. i want to know what Faria Wrote on the Top of his article <[Faria-htc wizard___WWE WM6 ROM- [the real thing] - xda-developers]> in red, <Extended ROM version Faria v5> if i dont have it, then can i proceed with upgrade to his ROM.I need it. Any body plz provide me link for it.
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Its in the ROM. When you put on Faria's WM6, you'll get that (he's just listing what all comes with it).
Secondly i need BOOTLOADER VERSION 2XXX OR ABOVE which he wrote must to have.
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That means you have to have an IPL / SPL that are both 2.xx or higher. Don't try to do this with either IPL or SPL at 1.xx
You will have to CID Unlock your device first. So read and follow this guide (and the posts it takes you too). Don't skip steps and check your work as you go and you'll be fine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
Key is, you have to downgrade, CID unlock, downgrade again (to get SPL to 1.xx) then upgrade to an official 2.xx ROM. Only after you do all of that can you then try flashing WM6 (or other custom roms).

Thanks Fraz! you confirmed what i was thinking...
I got a used i-mate K-Jam, the x-user was using it just as Phone(for making/recieving calls/sms). So all things(ROMs) are genuine which is
IPL 2.16
SPL 2.16
GSM 02.07.10
OS 2.16.9.1
U have cleared my confusion, so now i can proceed with Faria's WM6 (CB-AIRAF.exe 62.1 file size)
I have made a backup using aWizard (by ahlok_hk).
I also Unlocked it using aWizard (it was locked or not?i dont know, but i went through the Unlock Process & saw the msg that ur device is Unlocked now)Plz tell me how to know which device is CID locked or unlocked.
All things are ripped now...so i can go ahead with Faria's WM6...what do u say...?

bilalbutt10 said:
I also Unlocked it using aWizard (it was locked or not?i dont know, but i went through the Unlock Process & saw the msg that ur device is Unlocked now)Plz tell me how to know which device is CID locked or unlocked.
All things are ripped now...so i can go ahead with Faria's WM6...what do u say...?
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I've never CID Unlocked that way. I've always used the links I pointed you to in my previous post. As far as I know there is no way to know if you are CID Unlocked for sure until you flash a new ROM. If it appears to work, but only the splash screens change (and everything else is just like it was before) then you are not CID Unlocked.
you can give it a try, but personally I'd recommend you do the steps in my previous post as that method definetly works.

I Need HELP PLEASE **READ**!!

Hi,
I have cingular 8125 and i wanna upgrade it to window mobile 6 but,i dont know what verison i have the G3 Or G4 ??
So,i reset my device and looked at the IPL and SPL version numbers that occur during startup Is
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 02.25 11
OS 2.25.11.1
WHICH ONE I HAVE I AM CANFUSING AND I REALLY WANNA SOMEONE TO HELP ME PLEASE!
I wanna upgrade my phone and be safe i dont wanna do anything worng!
and which one its safe to upgrade G3 Or G4?
please help ................... Thanks!

Zaharaa said:
Hi,
I have cingular 8125 and i wanna upgrade it to window mobile 6 but,i dont know what verison i have the G3 Or G4 ??
So,i reset my device and looked at the IPL and SPL version numbers that occur during startup Is
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 02.25 11
OS 2.25.11.1
WHICH ONE I HAVE I AM CANFUSING AND I REALLY WANNA SOMEONE TO HELP ME PLEASE!
I wanna upgrade my phone and be safe i dont wanna do anything worng!
and which one its safe to upgrade G3 Or G4?
please help ................... Thanks!
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Filling the forum with repeated questions that have been answered zillions of times before and using a thread title that doesn't say the issue isn't a good politic to 'survive' in this forum (at least without being flamed...)
Read the wikis, the stickies and get WST.
cheers
PS:
Select all the text from this post and you'll have your answer
You have a G3...

We cant help if you dont want to read...i think you have g3...but do you it at your risk and brick it, if you are too lazy to read...

Iam not lazy or anything like that i spend 2 days already just to find out but which version i have G3 Or G4 But,i didn't find anything,thats the reasan why i asked for help becuz i can't find any Info about my phone!!
i already looked on *wikis, the stickies* But,i didn't find it!
On wikis, the stickies it say's g3 or g4 and other numbers and XxX and more 000 i dont have none of the numbers above how do i know which one i have? thats why i asked for help!

Zaharaa said:
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 02.25 11
OS 2.25.11.1
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Ok here we go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284292
per that link...and the information you provided....you have a G3! Again, do it at your risk, if you dont understand what you read...
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I'm so sorry if i bother you ..
And thanx alot for the help