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Guys, I want to ask for a favour.
Ages and ages back I read about what I thought was an amazingly cool gadget.
We like gadgets.
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I got speaking with the guy that invented this thing, and was mightily impressed. You'll be able to read my review soon... but this is the gadget:
The Alpha Grip:
It's a keyboard, compressed onto a gamepad like device. The keys are positioned around and under natural finger positions, according to usage and linguistic frequency; others are positions under the controller and used with rocker type switches.
It's difficult to describe, but the thing sits naturally in your hands and you have full keyboard access, in an exceptionally innovative, ergonomic design.
And, there's more - it also has a little trackerball that sits under your thumb position, so you can control both mouse and keyboard functions without ever taking your hands off the device.
It is complicated, and takes some getting used to, but when you are used to it, it's amazingly neat and geeky. I used to play all of my FPS games with a nostromo N52, but this thing lets you even further automate your gaming, macros and keyboard layouts. It's not quite the perfect game controller, but it's damn near close.
It is wired USB. Wires are baaad.
Unfortunately, it is not wireless or bluetooth etc, which is something I've spoken to the inventor about implementing. So, it's not quite ready for our phones yet, but as and when it is, wow.
However, I use it with an OQO mini computer and it's a perfect marriage, compact and highly productive (once you master the learning curve and get used to it). I guess you could use it with an xbox 360 and ps3 too, which would be cooool (although I've never tried). It emulates a standard USB Keyboard and mouse, so is highly compatible and doesn't use special drivers.
Anyway, enough blurb, I'm not selling this thing, I'm not even reviewing this thing here - you'll be able to read a full review from me eventually (and I'm in no way commercially connected or benefited from this).
However, my favour:
AlphaGrip, the company, have superb technical support and customer care. I like the product, I like the company. But you've probably never heard of either.
So: Yahoo have a competition on right now running between various small businesses that need more attention. I think Alphagrip needs and deserves this... so, have a look at the Yahoo page, and see if you think AlphaGrip deserves a vote. You don't have to buy the product, or even like it, but just decide if it deserves some of your mouse click love to get a gadget a bit more attention.
Gracias.
Yahoo Competition
V
PS. If you do buy one, tell Mike Willner, the inventor, that I sent you. I'll try to put in a good word for us and get us a deal.
EDIT: guys, I've just heard back from Mike, and he says that when you're buying the AlphaGrip, if you say that you're a member of this forum and write your XDA forums user ID in the comments section of the purchase page, you'll get $10 off the price.
And if you also mention that you've also voted on the Yahoo competition (quote something from his video interview to prove you've seen it), you'll get an extra $5 off! Go out and buy yourself a free lunch on Mike...
He said that they are certainly interested in doing a wireless adaptor or an all smartphone compatible version, so winning the competition will help get them the resources to do that. Hurry up and click already!
Guys, I want to repeat. I don't work for these guys, and aren't commercially linked to them in any way. I've just found Mike and his guys (and gals) to be a refreshingly helpful and conscientious tech company. They don't over inflate their claims, but make 100% solid and innovative stuff.
its got my vote.. im not a gamer but love me some gadgets, can see that thing being very useful
Thanks shogunmark!
I have to say that I'm quite a fan of non standard input devices. My all time favourite is the Microsoft Strategic Commander. If you've never seen one, it's basically the thing the little dude in Flight of the Navigator uses to fly the UFO. It kicks ass, but it's a bit too clever for it's own good. It actually has one axis assigned to flexing space/time, like too much Prince of Persia!
Day to day I tend to use the Nostromo n52 (not just for games, but general productivity work with appropriate macros, keyboard hooks and Windows PowerPro - my all time favourite app)
And I've also reviewed the Wolf Claw, which is more conventional, but useful for WASD users. I'm not a WASD fan personally.
BTW, I finally managed to spend some time with the Wii this weekend. It's not a particularly accurate input device, but novel - has anyone considered porting the open source Windows Bluetooth Input Interface to WinMob? It'd be cool to play doom on your phone on the Tube. Way to get shot in the head...
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EDIT: guys, I've just heard back from Mike, and he says that when you're buying the AlphaGrip, if you say that you're a member of this forum and write your XDA forums user ID in the comments section of the purchase page, you'll get $10 off the price.
And if you also mention that you've also voted on the Yahoo competition (quote something from his video interview to prove you've seen it), you'll get an extra $5 off! Go out and buy yourself a free lunch on Mike...
He said that they are certainly interested in doing a wireless adaptor or an all smartphone compatible version, so winning the competition will help get them the resources to do that. Hurry up and click already!
Also, Mike said that if you want to complain, make suggestions or ask for something completely different, go over to their development wiki to shape what a future Smartphone Compatible version should do.
http://wiki.alphagrips.com/AG-6+Suggestions
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vijay555 said:
And if you also mention that you've also voted on the Yahoo competition (quote something from his video interview to prove you've seen it)
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Who watches video's?!?? i just do what the voices tell me to
just do what the voices tell me
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Last time I did that I woke up covered in axel grease with a suspicious-looking black ribbed knobbler
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vijay555 said:
Last time I did that I woke up covered in axel grease with a suspicious-looking black ribbed knobbler
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oh yeah, i remember those video's...
You should... . You didn't even cook breakfast.
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vijay555 said:
You should... . You didn't even cook breakfast.
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oh i cooked breakfast.. you were still sleeping, must have been all those roofies i slipped you
wow, talk about hijacking a thread
This thread has gotten really saucy!
It's funny, when checked the thread and first saw the pics of the controller, I thought someone was having some fun with Photoshop. That is one crazy looking gadget!
I think it's wild enough to be pretty cool though. I like anything new and weird though. (including this thread )
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Don't encourage them for gawd's sake Taurus. Sounds like they're as fruity as a nut cake:
Mike
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is that anything like this:
Ok you people, I'm gonna moderate myself and bring this back to game controllers.
The AlphaGrip is certainly not photoshopped, I have one here - it does requires practise to get up to speed, but it was the same with my nostromo, and now I use that thing like a natural extension of my being
If you have any questions about it, let me know...
Ok, to get back offtopic, or ontopic, I can't remember now given that 90% of this thread is rather, um, unsusual:
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Shogun, you know what to get me for being a good boy, this Christmas.
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PS Keep voting. You can vote once a day. But man, those wonky playhouses are cool!
vijay555 said:
Ok you people, I'm gonna moderate myself and bring this back to game controllers.
The AlphaGrip is certainly not photoshopped, I have one here - it does requires practise to get up to speed, but it was the same with my nostromo, and now I use that thing like a natural extension of my being
If you have any questions about it, let me know...
Ok, to get back offtopic, or ontopic, I can't remember now given that 90% of this thread is rather, um, unsusual:
Shogun, you know what to get me for being a good boy, this Christmas.
V
PS Keep voting. You can vote once a day. But man, those wonky playhouses are cool!
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I just voted again, looks like your guy is currently in the lead
Has there ever been a "usual" conversation between the mods, i mean really?!?
I can think of a few people that would need those for christmas
Looking at that knobbler thing, the more it seems to make sense.
My brain overheats just thinking about the possibilities... you can picture the Taewanese design manager sitting at his desk, staring at a blank sheet of paper:
"Ok, Monday morning, what to do, what to do?
We need to think of a device that has 1% useful therapeutic design, 99% obvious sexual function. We've done massagers, infra red heaters, relaxation balls...
I know, The Knobbler. Reaches the parts other double ended stimulation devices cannot reach."
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PS Yeah. moderators need help. Hormonal issues seem to be a necessary qualification for the job!
vijay555 said:
My brain overheats
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I dont think thats your brain, but im sure you still think with it
vijay555 said:
you can picture the Taewanese design manager sitting at his desk, staring at a blank sheet of paper:
"Ok, Monday morning, what to do, what to do?
We need to think of a device that has 1% useful therapeutic design, 99% obvious sexual function. We've done massagers, infra red heaters, relaxation balls...
I know, The Knobbler. Reaches the parts other double ended stimulation devices cannot reach."
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You think thats tough.. can you imagine the Research and Development team on that?
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PS Yeah. moderators need help. Hormonal issues seem to be a necessary qualification for the job!
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I think thats pretty obvious, especially with that really old guy mikechannon
mikechannon said:
Since you boys obviously get on so well together and I'd rather keep well away from this very weird thread, I'm going to present you both with a much superior controller than vijay's suggestion. I think you'll find it reminds you of each other so you need never feel lonely again:
Mike
(and it's not even entered for gadget of the year!! Go on shake hands with an old friend!)
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was that from your private collection?
Mike, don't be jealous, you know you have an open invitation to the parties. Friday night, bring chocolate spread!
I won't elaborate any further on this:
V
PS: keep voting! I want Ivanka Trump to autograph my boobies.
vijay555 said:
Mike, don't be jealous, you know you have an open invitation to the parties. Friday night, bring chocolate spread!
I won't elaborate any further on this:
V
PS: keep voting! I want Ivanka Trump to autograph my boobies.
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brings a whole new meaning to those traffic cones...
And mike, if you accept V's open invitation, you may want to consider some help..
And dont forget to vote
Hey guys, would any of you consider using the AlphaGrip or any of the above toys, including those for external application only?
One game pad I haven't owned is the Saitek Pro Gamer Command.
I played with it once on a display model and found it tacky and clunky. I much prefer the ergonomics of the Nostromo.
Do you guys ever use these things? Like I said, Nostromo is great for FPS, but you can also configure it to do stuff in productivity apps like PhotoShop, Word, VS2005, Winamp etc (although of course you can do that with pretty much any input device with appropriate software).
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Geez, what have I got myself into?! This thread degenerated in a hurry.
CLICK HERE
I dont think I've ever seen anybody give such a biased review as this, this guy had my blood boiling for a moment.
Take a look if you dare and judge for yourself. Tell me if you can keep your composure...
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Wow this guy is a dumbass!
I have seen lizards sunbathing give better reviews than this, then again this is the iphone blog so I guess I may have been expecting a little too much since peripheral vision with other electronic devices that aren’t Apple pretty much is non-existent, I guess he can be forgiven.
Great star wars theme impression tho!
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lol best comment ever!!!
who gives a flying f**k about what an Apple-Fanboy has to say about WinMo Devices ?
He can berate our Hardware until he starts bleeding from every orifice, but the iPhone will never be as customizable and extendable than ANY WinMo Phone, period.
Best example is AppStore... you get to pay for second class (and that's really saying it in a nice way) software that only has a few functions which are badly implemented.
Also, you are seeing what kind of Audience Apple is trying to attract when you look at the "Facebook" App.
They should release apps for MySpace, Twitter, StickAm and stuff like that for all the young and hip media-prostitutes out there too.
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who gives a flying f**k about what an Apple-Fanboy has to say about WinMo Devices ?
He can berate our Hardware until he starts bleeding from every orifice, but the iPhone will never be as customizable and extendable than ANY WinMo Phone, period.
Best example is AppStore... you get to pay for second class (and that's really saying it in a nice way) software that only has a few functions which are badly implemented.
Also, you are seeing what kind of Audience Apple is trying to attract when you look at the "Facebook" App.
They should release apps for MySpace, Twitter, StickAm and stuff like that for all the young and hip media-prostitutes out there too.
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+1
Neither do I give a rats a** but its astonishing how someone can put out that piece of junk (only going as deep as the main menu) and call it a review.
Then again if it's a calculated scheme to increase number of hits to their site, then i guess they have succeeded, can't say if it's the right attention though.
Cant see why the fuss - the review was pretty sh*t but the phone looks like a bloater, its way to thick for my taste and makes my Touch look like its super thin. And his comments about the interface are true - in its pursuit to make eye candy HTC keep making it slower and more error prone. I would never buy an Iphone as i love the customization of the HTC but for your average phone user who does not want to learn anything at all the iphone gives them all they need.
I just can't stand Apple and their Marketing Tactics... they make it sound like they were the first to bring a Smartphone (which the iPhone actually isn't) to the Market that has a touchscreen... and Millions of fanboys actually fall in line and buy that crap.
I'm not saying that Apple Computers are crap, they're good at a few things too, chief among which is "looking good" but did the world really need that overhyped Phone ?
well it's definitely not thin, thats something I can live with, granted all that it does. Guess when there is a phone with all the capabilities of the TP as thin as a diamond with a 5 row keyboard, then we can complain. About the phone being slow, any phone during initial start up process is slow, its not HTC specific.
I don't have beef with Apple, just the fanboys and the fanboy sites!
He compares a TP to a Samsung Instinct for God's sake!!!
I could care less if my Phone was the size of a frickin' cinder-block as long as it does everything I want it to do... it does not have to be slim enough to slide it through underneath a Door.
I'll probably get me an HTC Opal next year or so, with Manila 2D... that thing will make me happier than any iPhone that will ever see the light of day.
What a fool!!!!
Holy **** he makes HTC Fuze makes the most ****ing piece of crap ever made! jajajaja i will make a video review for my hermes and it will be much better than that stupidity useless preview.... Holy **** this makes me hunger!!!
That was actually rather ridiculous. He does make some valid points as to WM's lack of finesse in some departments, but he really seemed to go out of his way to be child-like and/or a douche bag with that phone.
Yes, I tend to use a stylus with my Tilt because the screen seems to be purposefully fighting me, but it's not nearly as bad as he's making it out to be.
"The era of hard keyboards is over"
whatever, I think this review is totaly refering to the guys inteligence. He complains that he dont know how to use the sliding of the pics and music. How is that silly.
LOL
The music of "star wars" is hilarious!!
Hahahaha
origins81 said:
well it's definitely not thin, thats something I can live with, granted all that it does. Guess when there is a phone with all the capabilities of the TP as thin as a diamond with a 5 row keyboard, then we can complain. About the phone being slow, any phone during initial start up process is slow, its not HTC specific.
I don't have beef with Apple, just the fanboys and the fanboy sites!
He compares a TP to a Samsung Instinct for God's sake!!!
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Which is funny, because the Samsung Instinct has the same features/layout as the iPhone.
orb3000 said:
Sorry to disagree with you but that´s not true, hard keyboards will never be substituted, just wait a few months and you´ll see what´s coming...
Respectfully,
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That was not my words, the guy in the review said that, and my coment on that was: "whatever".
That means that I disagree with that statement.
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That was not my words, the guy in the review said that, and my coment on that was: "whatever".
That means that I disagree with that statement.
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Ohh I´m sorry, my mistake
Cheers,
Wow, that is truly a slap on the neck. He just could be the most annoying thing ever with that introduction. It's a rather childish review if you ask me.
That idiot with his comments is one the biggest stupidities i've seen in my life. If his brain capacity is not high enough (or there at all) to manipulate a pocket pc, he should have never blame it on the device and get himself a Motorola Startak (with the Manual Book and Quick Reference Guide of course!!).
Haha! I bet he still uses it.
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he touches the screen like a cat scratching a tire
the guy is like woody allen reviewing a phone
well, he does have ONE point, the "smoothness" of the phone isnt all that great, coming(him, not me) from the iphone, you shouldn't have to wait for your touch to take effect, for example when he is trying to navigate in HTCalbum. stupid qualcomm CPU's. I'm not buying another htc phone until they use a different processor, I was ALMOST fooled with the TouchPRO, until I saw some videos and heard some input. in some ways its worse and slower than the kaiser.
We need an HTC phone that is as fast as the iphone or faster. I'm really surprised HTC hasn't tried to compete speed wise, it really amazes me...
o, but anyway, about the video.
Yeah he kinda sucks at reviewing. And it's obvious he is a noob to TouchFLO3d lol. he's not grabbing the current tab, he's just sliding on other tabs.
I'm sure there are good things about apple. I sell Macs at work so I have to say good things about apple so I can get my $25 comission. This thread isn't about that however. This thread is a VENT thread. I want to hear all the things you hate, can't stand, dislike or are slightly irritated by - when it comes to anything apple.
Apple fanboys - with any luck there are sure to be a lot of baseless accusations, arguments without due grounds and all sorts of logical fallicies. There may even be embrassing pictures of Steve Jobs if we're lucky enough. However I just would like you to keep in mind we don't want any but's. No "But actually it doesn't", no "They fixed that in version 7" ect. The only butt allowed is if someone posts a picture of Steve Jobs mooning preschoolers.
If you want to, start a thread about why apple roxor your soxor, but please, give us space to vent!
I'll start:
I hate yuppies using an iPhone as a status symbol, and every single god damm person that sees my phone (HTC Touch Pro2) asking me either "Why didn't you get an iPhone" or "Is that some kind of iPhone knockoff?"
I hate people buying Iphones because they think there the best thing ever.
Demon_man said:
I hate people buying Iphones because they think there the best thing ever.
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I knew this was bound to be in here somewhere. :F
Casshern said:
I knew this was bound to be in here somewhere. :F
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well its true and FACT is there not!!!
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Demon_man said:
I hate people buying Iphones because they think there the best thing ever.
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the people or the iphone? lol
LOL, BOTH!
I hate Apple for making so dam good products that people need to make stupid and pointless threads like this each and every time they release a new magic device then every f***ing ignorant idiot jumps on that wagon where 99% haven't even tried using an apple product.
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I hate Apple for making so dam good products that people need to make stupid and pointless threads like this each and every time they release a new magic device then every f***ing ignorant idiot jumps on that wagon where 99% haven't even tried using an apple product.
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I hate this douche bag.
good day.
I hate Apple product users because they think that once they buy a product from Apple that they had to pay out the ass for, they think they're the best in the world. Those things are horrible, over-simplistic devices. I'm glad I have my Touch Pro 2.
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I hate people buying Iphones because they think there the best thing ever.
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For their argument all I have to say is one thing.......Flash
gullum said:
I hate Apple for making so dam good products that people need to make stupid and pointless threads like this each and every time they release a new magic device then every f***ing ignorant idiot jumps on that wagon where 99% haven't even tried using an apple product.
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How do you know that? I tried an Apple product. An iPhone. That thing was such a piece of ****. I returned it the next day. what tethering? What USB Mass Storage capabilities. What microSD slot!?
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I hate Apple product users because they think that once they buy a product from Apple that they had to pay out the ass for, they think they're the best in the world. Those things are horrible, over-simplistic devices. I'm glad I have my Touch Pro 2.
For their argument all I have to say is one thing.......Flash
How do you know that? I tried an Apple product. An iPhone. That thing was such a piece of ****. I returned it the next day. what tethering? What USB Mass Storage capabilities. What microSD slot!?
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What USA? not every freaking person is restricted to AT&T I know there are a whole lot more people in the world then those few living in USA.
USB mass storage no/ but there are free over wifi storage. microSD? no but with 32 gb I can't realy see the need
Well Flash even the porn business has plans to go HTML5 because they want on Apple. and if that happens then flash as video formate is history.
Let me ask you one simle question. why do you need flash?
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I tried an Apple product. An iPhone. That thing was such a piece of ****..
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i hate the way apple users look at you when you say '' its sh*t ''..pmsl
my friend is an '' i '' f*g and he looks like he gona cry when i say its crap..
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What USA? not every freaking person is restricted to AT&T I know there are a whole lot more people in the world then those few living in USA.
USB mass storage no/ but there are free over wifi storage. microSD? no but with 32 gb I can't realy see the need
Well Flash even the porn business has plans to go HTML5 because they want on Apple. and if that happens then flash as video formate is history.
Let me ask you one simle question. why do you need flash?
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porn. naah just kidding
Youtube. Their Youtube player is crap.
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i hate the way apple users look at you when you say '' its sh*t ''..pmsl
my friend is an '' i '' f*g and he looks like he gona cry when i say its crap..
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it's because the iPhone.....is their "precious"
I hate the way apple purposely Design the phone so that features standard in every other phone, are not there or DO NOT WORK. Eg bluetooth: only works for other iphones. SD card slot has already been mentioned, Itunes is annoying to use, No USB ports, and this is only just a start on its flaws. Why Don't many reviewers mention these flaws? Impartiality seems to go out the window when apple is involved.
I also dislike the free adverising apple gets when major companies adveritse their new iphone apps, or iphone only promotions. It would be fine if they advertised it in conjunction with their apps for other phone brands, but they dont. This just contributes to the misconception that iphone is the only phone with any support.
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it's because the iPhone.....is their "precious"
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honestly though, he bought the iphone for a stupid amout of money.. he give me it to play with, after 10 mins i gave it him back and said it was sh*t..
* the look on his face was a picture for the funny pictures thread lol
A few years back my friend bought a Mac desktop for $5000... My $2500 pc runs circles around it .
How about such "innovative" features such as a front facing camera or multitasking (my G1 could multitask for Pete's sake). At least you get to hold yer iphone 4 in an "innovative" manner.
Crash Different
this says it all
http://members.cox.net/clyqz/macs.html
I hate Apple because they...
1. Make up marketing terms to make it look like they invented stuff that they didn't.
a. "Retina display". WTF? I wasn't aware there was a limit on how dense pixels can be. If you listen to Steve, it's as if they made a huge technological breakthrough so that we can finally have a 326dpi screen.
Newsflash: The Toshiba G900 had a 313dpi screen. It was released in 2007.
b. "Face Time". WTF? It's called "video calling". And it's been around for as long as I can remember 3G being around. Plus, Apple's implementation doesn't even work over cellular network. When it finaly does, it'll be another new "feature".
2. Introduce rudimentary features that have been around for years and then make it sound like they're new and awesome.
a. These were not available until 2009. MMS, cut-copy-paste, video recording, camera autofocus.
b. These were not available until 2010. Wallpaper, camera flash, multitasking, folders.
1. Their PR lies; about stats, about innovation, about anything
2. Jobs is a psycho
3. They make products for the technologically retarded and I am not technologically retarded
4. They lie
5. They lie
6. They are fanned by 1000000 douche bags across the US
7. They lie
Apple blows. Steve Jobs needs to die already.
Loving the contributions guys, keep em comming.
I hate how people always assume that there are more apps on an iphone - the Windows Mobile platform has been around for 10years, is completely open and anyone can install any software on their phone. There is no way apple ever will have an edge when they strange their software developers.
I hate how people will spend more money on a mac product that does exactly the same (if not less) as a similar product, because its 'apple'.
The iphone is like McDonalds. It tastes good (to they majority), its always the same (dependable) you have a great range (of whats on the menu) and anyone can hand over money and enjoy their food.
Windows Mobile is like cooking. If you don't know what your doing, you're going to be boiling 2minute noodles and not be that impressed compared to a happy meal. However if you're willing to learn about cooking, to put the time and effort into finding out what you can do with different ingrediants, how to put them together - then you can make an absolutely amazingly delicious meal for a fraction of the cost of takeaway food
Sure you can't just get delicious food if you're not willing to put the time in, but if you are? You can get something that meets your every craving and satisfies all your tastes!
actually this isn't just about android, the same **** happens in forms about everything from TV series, movie stars to books and video card manufacturers, who knows.
What happens is whenever I make a post about something negative about whatever is discussed in the forum, everyone wants to kill me. I mean what the ****? Nothing is perfect okay? It’s a sad fact of life, learn to accept it?
It would seem to me that many people here tend to think their awesome magical super multitasking gigantic 6.99in. screen octa-core hyper-fast android phone with 35 home screens 126 gadgets, running a different LWP on each homescreen, customized to the last pixel, rooted even before being produced, quad-led flash and 82mp camera with 10x optical zoom and phase-detect autofocus and optical inferred, ultraviolet, x-ray mode, with photon-multiplying night vision, with built-in light saber, smartphone. Is the most perfect phone ever to be conceived since before the Big Bang, never to be seen again, not in this universe, or any other coming after it, or any other parallel to it, by any intelligence, divine or not, alive or not, carbon based or not, organic or mechanical, conscious or not. Not even the all-powerful all-knowing omnipotent omniscient Yahweh can reproduce, or even conceive its intricate design.
It’s just so sad whenever I post something going against such a belief without repeatedly expressing it was definitely caused by my own stupidity and inability to write my own operating system with machine language from the ground up blind folded one handed on a phone, debugging it, and installing it on the very same phone, without any other device or help. It seems that if I don’t do that, I am not allowed to say anything negative about android or people would try to kill me.
I know you have your explanations, you call it the “constructive criticism” standard. Something like, as I understand it, if I wanted to say something bad about android, I better have a solution for it. So if I don’t have a solution we should just sweep it under the rug and never mention it? Why is that? Cuz someone might get upset? I mean how pathetic? Like does your life’s sole purpose depend on the invincibility of the argument of your phone’s perfect design?
Now let me say something more serious. You shouldn’t find your confidence in your phone, or the brand of your motherboard, or the price of your watch, or the horsepower of your car, or the cup size of your girlfriend. Because all these, one day they won’t be there with you, they all diminish with time. So go find something more worthwhile, so you don’t get mad when people convince you that your phone isn’t perfect.
Well, I want to kill you for making a hard to read post.
In before the lock?
I don't see anything specifically lock-worthy, but, just in case ib4c since Archer told us not to post ib4l ....it will probably go on for a bit since Archer is likely asleep and I don't see vanessaem online.
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tldr
OP suffers death by paper cuts.
But there's one thing perfect about android. It is always better than apple products. No matter how **** the android or how good the apple product.
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jacobgong said:
actually this isn't just about android, the same **** happens in forms about everything from TV series, movie stars to books and video card manufacturers, who knows.
What happens is whenever I make a post about something negative about whatever is discussed in the forum, everyone wants to kill me. I mean what the ****? Nothing is perfect okay? It’s a sad fact of life, learn to accept it?
It would seem to me that many people here tend to think their awesome magical super multitasking gigantic 6.99in. screen octa-core hyper-fast android phone with 35 home screens 126 gadgets, running a different LWP on each homescreen, customized to the last pixel, rooted even before being produced, quad-led flash and 82mp camera with 10x optical zoom and phase-detect autofocus and optical inferred, ultraviolet, x-ray mode, with photon-multiplying night vision, with built-in light saber, smartphone. Is the most perfect phone ever to be conceived since before the Big Bang, never to be seen again, not in this universe, or any other coming after it, or any other parallel to it, by any intelligence, divine or not, alive or not, carbon based or not, organic or mechanical, conscious or not. Not even the all-powerful all-knowing omnipotent omniscient Yahweh can reproduce, or even conceive its intricate design.
It’s just so sad whenever I post something going against such a belief without repeatedly expressing it was definitely caused by my own stupidity and inability to write my own operating system with machine language from the ground up blind folded one handed on a phone, debugging it, and installing it on the very same phone, without any other device or help. It seems that if I don’t do that, I am not allowed to say anything negative about android or people would try to kill me.
I know you have your explanations, you call it the “constructive criticism” standard. Something like, as I understand it, if I wanted to say something bad about android, I better have a solution for it. So if I don’t have a solution we should just sweep it under the rug and never mention it? Why is that? Cuz someone might get upset? I mean how pathetic? Like does your life’s sole purpose depend on the invincibility of the argument of your phone’s perfect design?
Now let me say something more serious. You shouldn’t find your confidence in your phone, or the brand of your motherboard, or the price of your watch, or the horsepower of your car, or the cup size of your girlfriend. Because all these, one day they won’t be there with you, they all diminish with time. So go find something more worthwhile, so you don’t get mad when people convince you that your phone isn’t perfect.
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You make a thread titled "Android is not perfect" and don't give a single reason why it's not perfect. Instead you go insulting those who use the operating system (Which I would hardly call constructive criticism). Yes most of us realize that Android is not perfect. Software will never be perfect. There will always be better and more things to add. Now I agree with you in that some people take the specs of their phone way too seriously but that is not the majority of users.
P.S. It's not just Android people that will get mad if you start insulting. If you go to an Ubuntu forum and telling them that Linux is crap, they will yell at you. Same with an iPhone forum.
Oh and...
I'd rather kill the OP than read that wall of text. I don't think anyone would mind that..
I'll never understand why someone would go to the effort of typing up such a rant and not even bother to make it readable? Isn't the whole point of rants like this to have people read them (and based on the title, incite some kind of argument, it's obvious troll bait)?
063_XOBX said:
I'll never understand why someone would go to the effort of typing up such a rant and not even bother to make it readable? Isn't the whole point of rants like this to have people read them (and based on the title, incite some kind of argument, it's obvious troll bait)?
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Yeah, I truly didn't read it. I guess the bait worked anyway.
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TheSkinnyDrummer said:
Yeah, I truly didn't read it. I guess the bait worked anyway.
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I tried but gave up when I realized it was just a block of text (made it maybe five words in).
063_XOBX said:
I tried but gave up when I realized it was just a block of text (made it maybe five words in).
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Bless your heart, you made it that far.
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m1l4droid said:
I made about 2 lines in but then realized it was gibberish.
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I hardly ever do what I did. I opened the thread, saw the huge block of letters and scrolled down and made my first post in the blink of an eye.
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m1l4droid said:
I made about 2 lines in but then realized it was gibberish.
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You must be a masochist.
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I hardly ever do what I did. I opened the thread, saw the huge block of letters and scrolled down and made my first post in the blink of an eye.
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A very appropriate response given the (lack of) content therein.
Y...M...C...A...
Everybody!
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A very appropriate response given the (lack of) content therein.
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Did you just insult me? Too many 6+ letter words.
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Ever since i was puzzled why Google calls thier MobileOS Android. I know the explanation about the 90s Game still i never bought it.
Still now with Rapid growing new AI Technology, more and more Datacollecting it hit he. Better late then never.
Android seems to be supposed to not only include Humans into their Big Ai and Data Network, now make it part as their Workforce.
And it was planned so from the beginning, with a very bold clue even in the Naming.
If we look closely it is already doing that. Not only collecting your personal preferences, need and thoughs but also using everyone of us to collect data. If as simple as collecting Wifi Networknames to map the world, or using the GPS/Maps data to Map current Traffic. Or more complex things hidden in our daily Data.
Googles newest Effort, now let us use their Neural Network to analys Data,.. looks like someone wants to learn a lot.
it really apeears to me that not the OS is Android itself alone, but the combination OS and User is the Android.
That google wants to be in every aspect of our life isnt something new, but that we are in googles life is kinda something not outspoken. Were Part of that machinery, bribed with free Services that arent even Services they are simply Tools and we are their willing workers. And i have that strange feeling that this isnt something that just happend, more that this is part of a very big long though plan (i dont call it business plan for a reason).
Well as long this stays passive, well fine who cares you could say.
But is it really passive?
How much are we influenced by filtered Data tailored for us personally.
How much is there to come ?
And what will happen when it wakes up ?
As an Interresting sidenote was microsoft AI on twitter who became a nazi propagate genozide within 24 hours.
Ofc can be simply bad coding by MS, or just a natural reaction of any Inteligence to Human socieity on the net, who knows..
Something to think about
PS You may think iam crazy, then again maybe google fed you the exact information to make you think that
bofh999 said:
Ever since i was puzzled why Google calls thier MobileOS Android. I know the explanation about the 90s Game still i never bought it.
Still now with Rapid growing new AI Technology, more and more Datacollecting it hit he. Better late then never.
Android seems to be supposed to not only include Humans into their Big Ai and Data Network, now make it part as their Workforce.
And it was planned so from the beginning, with a very bold clue even in the Naming.
If we look closely it is already doing that. Not only collecting your personal preferences, need and thoughs but also using everyone of us to collect data. If as simple as collecting Wifi Networknames to map the world, or using the GPS/Maps data to Map current Traffic. Or more complex things hidden in our daily Data.
Googles newest Effort, now let us use their Neural Network to analys Data,.. looks like someone wants to learn a lot.
it really apeears to me that not the OS is Android itself alone, but the combination OS and User is the Android.
That google wants to be in every aspect of our life isnt something new, but that we are in googles life is kinda something not outspoken. Were Part of that machinery, bribed with free Services that arent even Services they are simply Tools and we are their willing workers. And i have that strange feeling that this isnt something that just happend, more that this is part of a very big long though plan (i dont call it business plan for a reason).
Well as long this stays passive, well fine who cares you could say.
But is it really passive?
How much are we influenced by filtered Data tailored for us personally.
How much is there to come ?
And what will happen when it wakes up ?
As an Interresting sidenote was microsoft AI on twitter who became a nazi propagate genozide within 24 hours.
Ofc can be simply bad coding by MS, or just a natural reaction of any Inteligence to Human socieity on the net, who knows..
Something to think about
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This post made my head spin but I can't say that this can't be a possibility. I mean 10 years ago if you would have told me that mobiles were going to be important part of our lives I would have laughed!
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How much is there to come ?
And what will happen when it wakes up ?
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This!
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This!
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why the effort?
if there is some day an all knowing everything controlling AI why should it rely on human ways of control and war?
i think there much sneakier ways to reduce mankind to nothing if that AI really wants to, hell we would do the work for it without knowing.
I definitely think you're crazy
I also think the tin-foilers have a highly inflated sense of their own importance, thinking that everyone wants to know everything about them.
bofh999 said:
why the effort?
if there is some day an all knowing everything controlling AI why should it rely on human ways of control and war?
i think there much sneakier ways to reduce mankind to nothing if that AI really wants to, hell we would do the work for it without knowing.
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Not everyone relies on computers or has an online presence. So human killing robots is the best way to be sure to get everyone. In my humble opinion. :good:
I say ,blame the humans...And those troll people like @Darth ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...un-millennial-ai-bot-into-a-genocidal-maniac/
Death to trolls!!
/tosses pitchforks and tablets into the room......
No. Computers do not think and are not capable of thinking. They do what they are told and *nothing* else.
The Microsoft thing was misreported as click-bait to sucker people who will believe anything they read. The phrase "repeat after me..." was used to make it repeat offensive phrases. It did not "decide" that it liked Hitler - it did what it was told.
What you suggest cannot happen with our technology - it is simply not capable.
OP
I came from the machine world... I know it's coming!
Darth said:
Not everyone relies on computers or has an online presence. So human killing robots is the best way to be sure to get everyone. In my humble opinion. :good:
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Not the point. Practically everyone relys of computer if you use em or not, if he knows that or not.
Energy, Food, Money,information and communication,.... take whatever you want, its all running now deeply dependent on computers and networks.
you dont need to kill mankind, if you control every little piece of imnformation you control the people.
look like countries like north korea work. still they need violence but most people there really think kim is a god.
and if the biug AI wants to kill us, well simply change a few numbers.
make mankind believe we have enough food and energy until we drained everything to zero and then we simply starve, simplfied spoken
why the effort?
if there is some day an all knowing everything controlling AI why should it rely on human ways of control and war?
i think there much sneakier ways to reduce mankind to nothing if that AI really wants to, hell we would do the work for it without knowing.