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I recently had the chance to play with the Nokia E61i and the built in VOIP client is brilliant. It allows you to use internal speaker, speaker phone and bluetooth with VOIP calls.
I had a Pocket PC before HTC Titan, but unfortunately had to sell it because I am traveling a lot now. I will primarly use my device in South America where the WCDMA band is different. I am thinking about getting the Nokia E90 or the HTC Kaiser, but must make sure the Kaiser will have built in VOIP client. Can someone confirm? Thanks
Even knowing there are many VOIP applications for Windows Mobile, I tried many with the HTC Titan and only ONE worked ok, but the problem was it only worked trough the speaker phone which was very annoying and not convenient.
I understand voip should be included in WM6.
IE : the integrated phone application can do voip.
Tried it with WM6 and voipbuster on my HTC Wizard and it's working although the sound is not so good sometimes because of the Wizard weak processor (I think).
NL4JC said:
I had a Pocket PC before HTC Titan, but unfortunately had to sell it because I am traveling a lot now. I will primarly use my device in South America where the WCDMA band is different. I am thinking about getting the Nokia E90 or the HTC Kaiser, but must make sure the Kaiser will have built in VOIP client. Can someone confirm? Thanks
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I have already asked that question some time ago - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322377 - and it turned out there is no VoIP support in Kaiser by default. I haven't seen any traces of VoIP in Kaiser I've played with two days ago. And finally, take a look into official Kaiser product sheets - they don't mention VoIP at all, while it's a good feature to shout about.
So basically, there is no VoIP support in Kaiser. However, installing it as an add-on from cab files might have a chance to work, but someone with real Kaiser with hands would need to test it and let us know.
That is really sad. I guess I am going to have to go with the Nokia E90 until a Windows Mobile device has a built in VOIP client.
NL4JC said:
That is really sad. I guess I am going to have to go with the Nokia E90 until a Windows Mobile device has a built in VOIP client.
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VOIP is easily installed by YOU.
There's no reason to not get a kaiser because it doesn't have this if you are a member of these forums.
evolution_theory said:
VOIP is easily installed by YOU.
There's no reason to not get a kaiser because it doesn't have this if you are a member of these forums.
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Amen !
I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
briols6 said:
I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
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Well, this is great news! I hope I could confirm it as soon as my Kaiser come - I couldn't resist and pre-ordered one in Handtec.co.uk. ))
Installed the .cab as well and works like a charm.
I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
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I have Kaiser now, I've installed VOIP Drivers.cab and MajikVOIP.cab. Installs all components correctly, logs into SIP account, makes a call, but... sound comes out of external speaker, instead of internal earpiece!
Did you manage to make it work properly and if yes - which cabs exactly did you install? Thanks.
im keen to find out also! I thought that you could only access voip using cooked roms.
There are a number of WM5 VoIP endpoints available.... however I'm not entirely sure about WM6 yet. I work in VoIP, and its on my list of things the check now that i have my shiny new TyTN II sat infront of me!
I'll keep you all updated with my findings.
Mind you.. i must check tmobiles policy on VoIP, I had a sneaky feeling they are blocking necessary ports...
managing your voip client?
for those with Voip enabled and working, can you tell me how the voip client determines which connection to use, ie wifi or using the data plan?
I have installed Fring and it works well. Is this different than the other voip programs discussed above?
from what i understand, Fring is a stand alone app, where as the voip i am looking at is fully integrated into the phone and uses the standard dialer, hence my previous question about how the Voip determines which connection to use? And if that is automatic? ie. if wifi is available will it just connect via wifi and if wifi isnt available will it then revert automatically to using the data plan to make the voip call.
Not that this helps with the Kaiser, but according to HP, the new iPaq BM series should have the VoIP client enabled by default; in fact, as far as I'm aware, it's the only device announced with it enabled.
Hi,
I'm new to the PDA and WM phone world, and i have a quick question. If there was a voip program of sorts for a phone like this, would that mean you could just pay for a data plan and not have to pay for a voice plan from a company like AT&T? And then u could still text message, e-mail, internet and the sorts, but also be able to make calls through your program?
Hi
Most providers (certainly here in the UK) flag data used for Messenging and/or VoIP so they are charge at a higher rate or excluded from your inclusive allowance so you pay extra or not blocked completely.
VoIP on a mobile device is only really of benefit when you are in range of a wireless connection.
Regards
Phil
Hey, thanks for the reply. Does anyone know if AT&T restrict data like he said? That's gonna be the main service i will be using, and want to know if they do or not.
Ok i have been breaking my head. to get it to connect over GPRS/EDGE/3G.
It works for me with any other connection. That is : Wifi, and Active sync.
I am using T-mobile, (unlocked) att Tilt, and have t-zones.
So of course it has something to do with proxy connection.
Please someone help on how to do a registry edit, or a .cab file or something.
One more thing, I never used to have all these problems with my wizard
(im guessing it was because i had the data plan(data plan is to damn expensive) )
why waste your time running another memroy hungry app on your phone; instead use fring http://www.fring.com and it's free and then have all your IM applications running from one app.
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why waste your time running another memroy hungry app on your phone; instead use fring http://www.fring.com and it's free and then have all your IM applications running from one app.
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Some of use like to use the original app/OS, instead of a third-party version.
I too wonder if I should go back to WM6.0 because of the incompatibility with Skype. Skype is also free, and I use it primarily for calls, not IM.
It does seem that most Skype users wouldn't be using WM6.1 anyways since it's beta/unreleased OS anyways. Hopefully, the Skype people would update themselves sometime soon.
I am using skype on 6.1. See my signature.
I use skype for overseas calls as that is what they all use.
I am using skype on 6.1. See my signature.
I use skype for overseas calls as that is what they all use.
Not sure why it works on some 6.1 ROM's and not others.
I thought when i posted this, that i would get alot of help. Look i dont think this is hard. And as for the windows mobile 6.1 issue, i really dont think its an issue, cause thats what i am using.
The problem is that. The stupid t-zones proxy, is getting in the way of this thing connecting over the Edge/gprs/3G.
Please all you registry whiz peeps or all you people that know how to hex edit or patch stuff, please help with a solution for this.
thank you
Oh and do people know of other voip stuff that i can get into ?
thanks again
For what it's worth, I don't use any type of IM, but use Fring instead of Skype for calls. I used Skype on my phone, but Fring just seems to work better.
dcdeek said:
For what it's worth, I don't use any type of IM, but use Fring instead of Skype for calls. I used Skype on my phone, but Fring just seems to work better.
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thanks i will try it out now
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thanks i will try it out now
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Ok i just tried to install fringe. Fringe cannot connect to t-mobile, just like skype couldnt connect.
The problem is not that its not working, The problem is that it wont connect using EDGE/GPRS/3G
Help many of my other apps are going through this same problems, like resco, i even found a very nice free direct push app called emoze that dosent work either
Help
T-mobile, T-zones Unlocked Att Tilt, Using Duttys Rom. I think i Got all my settings correct. Cause i aslo have alot of apps that work.
Help Please
Well, don't know if you guys know (according to Skype) that Skype doesn't work on non 3G network?
I flashed many WM 6.1 floating in this board and I don't have any problem w/ skype on at&t 3G (yet.)
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Well, don't know if you guys know (according to Skype) that Skype doesn't work on non 3G network?
I flashed many WM 6.1 floating in this board and I don't have any problem w/ skype on at&t 3G (yet.)
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Hmm.. maybe I'll look again. Skype install worked quite fine on WM6.0 previously (Dutty's/Sleuth), but the new Dutty 6.1 Skype runs, but refuses to be "online". I can still access my previous call history and profile information. This is over WiFi.
I'll try again. Maybe network "hiccup".
While installing Skype of resco or 1-Calc, make sure you are NOT on WiFi. Just disconnect the WiFi, then install the programs.
not working on nothrills rom
not working on nothrills rom
Does "fring" let you use skype through the earpiece or does the sound come through the speaker like on skype?
because your provider dont like this...
try wap.tjat.com
there are the most messinger for online using
(sorry for my bad english)
thompson187 said:
because your provider dont like this...
try wap.tjat.com
there are the most messinger for online using
(sorry for my bad english)
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Thanks alot
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why waste your time running another memroy hungry app on your phone; instead use fring http://www.fring.com and it's free and then have all your IM applications running from one app.
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Why waste your time running apps with such a CHEESY interface as Fring when Skype works perfectly? As an existing Skype user on my PCs I am very happy to have the same easy to use interface on my phone. I do not see it as being memory hungry either. I have been running Skype without a hitch in WM6.0 and 6.1 on my kaiser in Australia for the past 4 months. Have it connected right now on a non 3G, Edge network. It is Free other than my data charges. I have been using Duttys Roms.
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I'll try again. Maybe network "hiccup".
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Okay, so still nope for me. Can't get "online" with Skype still. Using Dutty's 6.1 ROM before the 19202 hybrid version.
Fring doesn't work on my device, i'm using NoThrilss V3 ROM...
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Fring doesn't work on my device, i'm using NoThrilss V3 ROM...
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If your using T-mobile t-zones plan, you can forget many things working.
If you want a clean im client thats free, go with parlingo, (i hope i spelt it right)
get it and search again for the reg proxy fix.
T-mobile they are pissing me off, No 3g and then there data add on is more expensive than all the other carriers with better networks.
I think i might just start a thread just to vent. This is pure rubish, How long does it take to upgrade there towers or roll out there 3g, they have been saying that it would be ready next year, since 2005.
They are just lucky i like there voice plans, But this is totally rubbish.
Hi,
did anyone succeed in calling using the WM6 VoIP via 3G? I tried sipconfigtools and setup_voip0.3, the modified drivers for Diamond (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415262) and the unmodified, nothing works... (I tried 2 sip accounts, they both work using Fring). Am I the only one in this case?
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Hi,
did anyone succeed in calling using the WM6 VoIP via 3G? I tried sipconfigtools and setup_voip0.3, the modified drivers for Diamond (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415262) and the unmodified, nothing works... (I tried 2 sip accounts, they both work using Fring). Am I the only one in this case?
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I also I tried to install WM6 VoIP and setup Voip, but does not work very well. The problem is not only that does not work and you also freezes the internal antenna GPS and the only way to restore the proper functioning is a HARD RESET.
I lived on my skin and only after I read in other POST.
The only application, in my opinion, that works really well for the VOIP and the Chat as MSN, Skype, Twitter, etc. Gtalk. Fring is! It works very well on Diamond, also used on the P3600 and have always been happy.
I hope to be state aid.
Ask your mobile phone provider. I think he will tell you that they block some ports and you cant use voip over 3g.
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Ask your mobile phone provider. I think he will tell you that they block some ports and you cant use voip over 3g.
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No, VoIP works using Fring so it can't be this. But the quality of VoIP using Fring is not very good and all the others applications I have tried so far don't work properly (GoSIP, Skype, SJphone, Wengophone).
Hello.
I want to buy HTC Touch Pro, but it is importand that VOIP (SIP) is working on this device.
Can somone tell me if it works or not???
Thank you,
That is a very good question Goose;
The firm where I work is migrating to VOIP, and I'd like to use the HTC as main line phone.
Let's hope someone tested the VOIP on the Raphael...
http://www.voipphreak.ca/2008/03/29...mobile-6x-for-free-voip-calls-using-asterisk/
don't know if it's working, but it should I cannot test it for you..
Thanks Lepermessiah,
I'll test it as soon as I receive my device back from repair (1 week hopefully) and keep you posted on how this SIP VOIP client runs...
Perhaps take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401608
I havent tested it out yet as I also have a raphael on its way back to the retailer at the mo.
Lol, you too Mrvanx?
Seem that the Raphael is like Vista: they released it too early without fully testing it and resolving all the bugs...
It is pointless to buy such advenced smartphone without voip support.
I mean, it is whole point with wifi on it.
Ow yes, we can browse web, but I can't really find it fun to use Opera Mobile on a small screen.
It is possible to make Voip calls using skype for ppc. there is a download availible on ppc warez
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It is possible to make Voip calls using skype for ppc. there is a download availible on ppc warez
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No need to refer to warez, please! Skye for ppc is available from Skype http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/download/skype/windowsmobile/
And when skype became SIP?
I asked about SIP based VOIP not Skype.
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And when skype became SIP?
I asked about SIP based VOIP not Skype.
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Like i mentioned try the thread above and see how you get on, on my other device (HTC Hermes) it works a charm, VoIP was part of Windows mobile however it never seemed to make it to any of the official builds, mostly because obviously it takes business/revenue away from a mobile network provider correct?
Why present the customer with a subsidised handset which can bypass thier mobile network to make calls for free/cheap??
I tried to connect my touch pro to my asterisk server using the "built in" client. It kind of worked, I could initiate/answer calls over wifi, but about 2 seconds after the call connected the phone went in to sleep mode and cut off the wifi connection, tried messing around with the settings in advanced config but nothing helped. Also with the VIOP cab installed it is impossible to use the GPS.
I wouldn't recommend it.
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I tried to connect my touch pro to my asterisk server using the "built in" client. It kind of worked, I could initiate/answer calls over wifi, but about 2 seconds after the call connected the phone went in to sleep mode and cut off the wifi connection, tried messing around with the settings in advanced config but nothing helped. Also with the VIOP cab installed it is impossible to use the GPS.
I wouldn't recommend it.
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Yes i noticed the GPS conflicted with the driver, pretty sure there is a solution in the thread.
Take a look in advanced config (3.2) i THINK there is a setting in there to stop the device sleeping as a call is made, i WOULD look but my raph doesnt get back to me until either tomorrow or the day after.
i am ignorant apparently, so what is the difference between SIP and voip skype calls?
why can I not refer to ppc warez?
zex11 said:
i am ignorant apparently, so what is the difference between SIP and voip skype calls?
why can I not refer to ppc warez?
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SIP is a protocal which many VoIP providers use, see explanation here.
Skype is a brand name, they use thier own protocol to communicate hence thier own software. the "built in" VoIP drivers use SIP so you can use any provider you like which supports SIP.
thanx mrvanx
After all, is this possible or not??
I can voip with SJphone and Fring, but they have the problem of the external speaker, but I cannot voip using the multiple tutorials here on xda to make voip calls with the phone (without 3rd party programs...)
zex11 said:
i am ignorant apparently, so what is the difference between SIP and voip skype calls?
why can I not refer to ppc warez?
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Warez is a reference to illegal software - we don't want to attract that kind of attention as it will only end up causing too much hassle for the whole forum . See the rules for posting (no. 11) here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=221545
yes that is true, but i didnt refer to illegal software, skype mobile is free to use. i refered to ppc only because there are a lot of advices if something is wrong with installation or something else. nothing more.
sorry anyways
Guys.
Is there any 3part SIP software, just software so we canuse any VOIP provider with SIP suport?
To be cleared: I do not have this phone, I want to know if VOIP over SIP will work before buying it, if not, I have to wait for fix or other phone...
hello everyone i am using 6.5 rom on my fuze on t-mobile and i wanted to use sip from nymgo to make my international calls but i am having some trouble finding a good program that works hoping for some suggestions from you guys
Nymgo site says to use fring
Have you tried it?
hey man - i am looking for something similar too. i know a few ROMS have the option of internet calling inbuilt, but I have never found a good SIP/VOIP configuration tool to make that actually work.
sip app or rom
got it working had to use the audio re router to get sound coming out of the ear piece works good just tried it
Hi I had HTC 6.5 and I' am using Skype on it and its working
Try it.