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I recently had the chance to play with the Nokia E61i and the built in VOIP client is brilliant. It allows you to use internal speaker, speaker phone and bluetooth with VOIP calls.
I had a Pocket PC before HTC Titan, but unfortunately had to sell it because I am traveling a lot now. I will primarly use my device in South America where the WCDMA band is different. I am thinking about getting the Nokia E90 or the HTC Kaiser, but must make sure the Kaiser will have built in VOIP client. Can someone confirm? Thanks
Even knowing there are many VOIP applications for Windows Mobile, I tried many with the HTC Titan and only ONE worked ok, but the problem was it only worked trough the speaker phone which was very annoying and not convenient.
I understand voip should be included in WM6.
IE : the integrated phone application can do voip.
Tried it with WM6 and voipbuster on my HTC Wizard and it's working although the sound is not so good sometimes because of the Wizard weak processor (I think).
NL4JC said:
I had a Pocket PC before HTC Titan, but unfortunately had to sell it because I am traveling a lot now. I will primarly use my device in South America where the WCDMA band is different. I am thinking about getting the Nokia E90 or the HTC Kaiser, but must make sure the Kaiser will have built in VOIP client. Can someone confirm? Thanks
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I have already asked that question some time ago - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322377 - and it turned out there is no VoIP support in Kaiser by default. I haven't seen any traces of VoIP in Kaiser I've played with two days ago. And finally, take a look into official Kaiser product sheets - they don't mention VoIP at all, while it's a good feature to shout about.
So basically, there is no VoIP support in Kaiser. However, installing it as an add-on from cab files might have a chance to work, but someone with real Kaiser with hands would need to test it and let us know.
That is really sad. I guess I am going to have to go with the Nokia E90 until a Windows Mobile device has a built in VOIP client.
NL4JC said:
That is really sad. I guess I am going to have to go with the Nokia E90 until a Windows Mobile device has a built in VOIP client.
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VOIP is easily installed by YOU.
There's no reason to not get a kaiser because it doesn't have this if you are a member of these forums.
evolution_theory said:
VOIP is easily installed by YOU.
There's no reason to not get a kaiser because it doesn't have this if you are a member of these forums.
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Amen !
I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
briols6 said:
I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
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Well, this is great news! I hope I could confirm it as soon as my Kaiser come - I couldn't resist and pre-ordered one in Handtec.co.uk. ))
Installed the .cab as well and works like a charm.
I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
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I have Kaiser now, I've installed VOIP Drivers.cab and MajikVOIP.cab. Installs all components correctly, logs into SIP account, makes a call, but... sound comes out of external speaker, instead of internal earpiece!
Did you manage to make it work properly and if yes - which cabs exactly did you install? Thanks.
im keen to find out also! I thought that you could only access voip using cooked roms.
There are a number of WM5 VoIP endpoints available.... however I'm not entirely sure about WM6 yet. I work in VoIP, and its on my list of things the check now that i have my shiny new TyTN II sat infront of me!
I'll keep you all updated with my findings.
Mind you.. i must check tmobiles policy on VoIP, I had a sneaky feeling they are blocking necessary ports...
managing your voip client?
for those with Voip enabled and working, can you tell me how the voip client determines which connection to use, ie wifi or using the data plan?
I have installed Fring and it works well. Is this different than the other voip programs discussed above?
from what i understand, Fring is a stand alone app, where as the voip i am looking at is fully integrated into the phone and uses the standard dialer, hence my previous question about how the Voip determines which connection to use? And if that is automatic? ie. if wifi is available will it just connect via wifi and if wifi isnt available will it then revert automatically to using the data plan to make the voip call.
Not that this helps with the Kaiser, but according to HP, the new iPaq BM series should have the VoIP client enabled by default; in fact, as far as I'm aware, it's the only device announced with it enabled.
Hi,
I'm new to the PDA and WM phone world, and i have a quick question. If there was a voip program of sorts for a phone like this, would that mean you could just pay for a data plan and not have to pay for a voice plan from a company like AT&T? And then u could still text message, e-mail, internet and the sorts, but also be able to make calls through your program?
Hi
Most providers (certainly here in the UK) flag data used for Messenging and/or VoIP so they are charge at a higher rate or excluded from your inclusive allowance so you pay extra or not blocked completely.
VoIP on a mobile device is only really of benefit when you are in range of a wireless connection.
Regards
Phil
Hey, thanks for the reply. Does anyone know if AT&T restrict data like he said? That's gonna be the main service i will be using, and want to know if they do or not.
Hello,
does any1 know if the Kaiser is working with any of the VoIP cabs floating around xdadev? Does the sound come from the headset or the loudspeaker? Which of the many VoIP cabs is the one working with Kaiser?
thanks,
Ionutz
Skype 2.2 is working. Only the sound comes from the speaker (at the back) and the one on the front (for when your calling). But when a headset is plugged in, the sound goes through there.
I'm not talking about Skype, but about the Internet Calling, how it is called in Windows Mobile 6 package. I don't even understand why the guys at HTC didn't include Internet Calling by default in the Kaiser ROM.
Has anyone tried this?
ionutz6 said:
I'm not talking about Skype, but about the Internet Calling, how it is called in Windows Mobile 6 package. I don't even understand why the guys at HTC didn't include Internet Calling by default in the Kaiser ROM.
Has anyone tried this?
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Did you ever consider using Search feature?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322377
eva_d said:
Did you ever consider using Search feature?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322377
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To be honest, I havent.
Thanks.
Hello,
I bought the Herald because I wanted to use VOIP on it eventually.
But then it doesn't seem to work quite as expected. The main problem is that the sound doesn't come from the earpiece but from the speakerphone instead...
Has this problem been solved???
Thanks in advance!
/Stig
tested , it is not working on T-mobile Wing, it keeps saying "searching", I may have to change ROM to use Microsoft VOIP.
the SJphone works fine on Wing
cgigate said:
tested , it is not working on T-mobile Wing, it keeps saying "searching", I may have to change ROM to use Microsoft VOIP.
the SJphone works fine on Wing
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I had made an earlier POST about using VOIP on wing. Will appreciate your help to setup VOIP on Wing. I downloaded and installed WM6VOIP and Setupvoip from the forum - but did not understand how to get the device to dial out. Do you need to use the phone dialer or do you need to use another softphone software.
Will appreciate your thoughts...
Nick
zerodiscount said:
I had made an earlier POST about using VOIP on wing. Will appreciate your help to setup VOIP on Wing. I downloaded and installed WM6VOIP and Setupvoip from the forum - but did not understand how to get the device to dial out. Do you need to use the phone dialer or do you need to use another softphone software.
Will appreciate your thoughts...
Nick
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anyone bother to read around a bit...
it uses the same dialer for GSM and for VoIP calls.
anyway - fring is the best solution
Ok i have been breaking my head. to get it to connect over GPRS/EDGE/3G.
It works for me with any other connection. That is : Wifi, and Active sync.
I am using T-mobile, (unlocked) att Tilt, and have t-zones.
So of course it has something to do with proxy connection.
Please someone help on how to do a registry edit, or a .cab file or something.
One more thing, I never used to have all these problems with my wizard
(im guessing it was because i had the data plan(data plan is to damn expensive) )
why waste your time running another memroy hungry app on your phone; instead use fring http://www.fring.com and it's free and then have all your IM applications running from one app.
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why waste your time running another memroy hungry app on your phone; instead use fring http://www.fring.com and it's free and then have all your IM applications running from one app.
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Some of use like to use the original app/OS, instead of a third-party version.
I too wonder if I should go back to WM6.0 because of the incompatibility with Skype. Skype is also free, and I use it primarily for calls, not IM.
It does seem that most Skype users wouldn't be using WM6.1 anyways since it's beta/unreleased OS anyways. Hopefully, the Skype people would update themselves sometime soon.
I am using skype on 6.1. See my signature.
I use skype for overseas calls as that is what they all use.
I am using skype on 6.1. See my signature.
I use skype for overseas calls as that is what they all use.
Not sure why it works on some 6.1 ROM's and not others.
I thought when i posted this, that i would get alot of help. Look i dont think this is hard. And as for the windows mobile 6.1 issue, i really dont think its an issue, cause thats what i am using.
The problem is that. The stupid t-zones proxy, is getting in the way of this thing connecting over the Edge/gprs/3G.
Please all you registry whiz peeps or all you people that know how to hex edit or patch stuff, please help with a solution for this.
thank you
Oh and do people know of other voip stuff that i can get into ?
thanks again
For what it's worth, I don't use any type of IM, but use Fring instead of Skype for calls. I used Skype on my phone, but Fring just seems to work better.
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For what it's worth, I don't use any type of IM, but use Fring instead of Skype for calls. I used Skype on my phone, but Fring just seems to work better.
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thanks i will try it out now
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thanks i will try it out now
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Ok i just tried to install fringe. Fringe cannot connect to t-mobile, just like skype couldnt connect.
The problem is not that its not working, The problem is that it wont connect using EDGE/GPRS/3G
Help many of my other apps are going through this same problems, like resco, i even found a very nice free direct push app called emoze that dosent work either
Help
T-mobile, T-zones Unlocked Att Tilt, Using Duttys Rom. I think i Got all my settings correct. Cause i aslo have alot of apps that work.
Help Please
Well, don't know if you guys know (according to Skype) that Skype doesn't work on non 3G network?
I flashed many WM 6.1 floating in this board and I don't have any problem w/ skype on at&t 3G (yet.)
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Well, don't know if you guys know (according to Skype) that Skype doesn't work on non 3G network?
I flashed many WM 6.1 floating in this board and I don't have any problem w/ skype on at&t 3G (yet.)
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Hmm.. maybe I'll look again. Skype install worked quite fine on WM6.0 previously (Dutty's/Sleuth), but the new Dutty 6.1 Skype runs, but refuses to be "online". I can still access my previous call history and profile information. This is over WiFi.
I'll try again. Maybe network "hiccup".
While installing Skype of resco or 1-Calc, make sure you are NOT on WiFi. Just disconnect the WiFi, then install the programs.
not working on nothrills rom
not working on nothrills rom
Does "fring" let you use skype through the earpiece or does the sound come through the speaker like on skype?
because your provider dont like this...
try wap.tjat.com
there are the most messinger for online using
(sorry for my bad english)
thompson187 said:
because your provider dont like this...
try wap.tjat.com
there are the most messinger for online using
(sorry for my bad english)
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Thanks alot
alexn2 said:
why waste your time running another memroy hungry app on your phone; instead use fring http://www.fring.com and it's free and then have all your IM applications running from one app.
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Why waste your time running apps with such a CHEESY interface as Fring when Skype works perfectly? As an existing Skype user on my PCs I am very happy to have the same easy to use interface on my phone. I do not see it as being memory hungry either. I have been running Skype without a hitch in WM6.0 and 6.1 on my kaiser in Australia for the past 4 months. Have it connected right now on a non 3G, Edge network. It is Free other than my data charges. I have been using Duttys Roms.
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I'll try again. Maybe network "hiccup".
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Okay, so still nope for me. Can't get "online" with Skype still. Using Dutty's 6.1 ROM before the 19202 hybrid version.
Fring doesn't work on my device, i'm using NoThrilss V3 ROM...
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Fring doesn't work on my device, i'm using NoThrilss V3 ROM...
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If your using T-mobile t-zones plan, you can forget many things working.
If you want a clean im client thats free, go with parlingo, (i hope i spelt it right)
get it and search again for the reg proxy fix.
T-mobile they are pissing me off, No 3g and then there data add on is more expensive than all the other carriers with better networks.
I think i might just start a thread just to vent. This is pure rubish, How long does it take to upgrade there towers or roll out there 3g, they have been saying that it would be ready next year, since 2005.
They are just lucky i like there voice plans, But this is totally rubbish.
Hi,
after searching xda-developers and googling I finally mannaged to get Voip working with the wm6 builtin voipclient.
I can make calls over wifi without a problem, sound through the phonespeaker and I managed to get my voipclient connected over 3G...
But Noone can hear me when I make a call over 3G and I can't hear them either...
Anyone got this to work?
I tried duttys roms an the hyperdragon roms (which I find great) I alo tried different radio roms without succes.
Thanks in advance,
Bartus
could you please tell me which voipclient you are using so I can try it .
The one from this tread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326432&highlight=VOIP&page=5
I'l attach it so you don't have to search that thread, but you may want to read it anyway
hmm 227 views and no one can tell me if it is possible to get ths to work on the kaiser?
destr0_VOIP_WM61___SIP_Config_1.1.CAB works for me in the US with ATT. I also have skype beta for WM 6.1 working as well. You can find it in AllTheWay or Ptater's 4shared cab collection... (in their sig & the Read here 1st post)
I used Skype on 3G with Dutty's roms. I haven't been able to use it with NATF's V2 rom. I just upgraded to the V5 rom and I'm going to try that.
surely the problem lies with the network protection controls in place to stop you making voip calls on your data plan?
thats the case here in the UK
I would say that is probably a correct answer, failing that, it could be some problem with sip through nat, or some other such issue that can often arrise using the sip protocol. There are often sip problems through nat networks, hence the need for STUN.