Google maps says there should be a "Settings -> System -> GPS"
but I only see External GPS.
Is my GPS not enabled?
This has been discussed a ton already, use any other GPS application 1st, like TomTom or search for GPS Viewer, a simple GPS app. Configure the app for GPS at Com 4, 4800baud. Also be sure and enable the Quick GPS app that came with the TyTN and download the current data. Once you get a fix from any other application, Google Maps will work normally.
My apologies. First day with the Kaiser and just trying to get a handle on it. I did search but didn't seem to get that answer, a lot of other information.
if you purchase software like tomtom navigator 6 you dont even need to use a "jumpstart" app. It will just work.
Lavachild said:
if you purchase software like tomtom navigator 6 you dont even need to use a "jumpstart" app. It will just work.
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yeah im not sure what the purpose of the quickgps program is. I use tomtom by itself and it always locks on in just a few seconds.
Quick GPS performs a function callled Assisted GPS (A-GPS) and it is a way to save time to acquire a fix by predownloading satellite data into the phone so that the GPS doesn't have to download the same data from the sats while initializing. A "cold" gps startup can take several minutes, A-GPS brings it down to a few seconds.
This is seperate from the Google problem where it appears that Google doesn't wait long enough to get the initial fix and fails. After the Phone gets a fix using another program (not Quick GPS), then Google maps works normally. Mapping progs like TomTom and iGuidance just work right from install providing you set the com to 4 and Baud between 4800 and 38400.
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Here I compiled list of question and answer about using TomTom 6 with the HTC Kaiser. Forum Mods, if this is good enough, please make it sticky topic.
*** Which version of TomTom is in the Application CD?
6.032 (8351) - as of September 15, 2007
*** Is that full version or trial version?
It is called TomTom Taster Edition and It is full version, it will not expired, and there is no feature limitation compared to retail version.
*** Is it installed in the ROM by default?
No, it is not. You need to manually install it.
*** How to install it?
Connect to ActiveSync, from the HTC Kaiser Application CD, launch:
Installer_Kaiser_ttn_6_032_8351_HTC_WWE_20070716.EXE
*** I dont have that executable file in my HTC Kaiser Application CD!
Yes, you are not alone, probably you purchased North America version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329957
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327917&page=2
You can also download it here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/56585274/6_032_8351.rar (this link might not be permanent)
Or here (.CAB):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/9379xf (this link might not be permanent)
*** I have TomTom 6.030 (or prior version), what's the main difference?
6.032 has "Built-in Internal GPS" setting and the HTC Kaiser also have one.
*** Can I use/install other maps?
Yes you can. You can purchase additional maps (maps only), and then activate it.
*** Warning! Do not change the external GPS setting!
You should see "external GPS" icon in the Settings->System, do not change anything there.
You might need to hard-reset your device, more info:
http://www.modaco.com/word-warning-re-GPS-se-t258943.html
*** How can I use my own TomTom software?
So, you do not want to use TomTom from the Application CD.
Basically, you just need to install your own TomTom software and use this setting for the GPS:
- Other NMEA GPS receiver
- GPS baud rate = 4800
- GPS is connected to COM4:
For detailed information, check out here:
http://www.modaco.com/TomTom-Kaiser-t256790.html
*** How good is the internal GPS? Any problems?
From my own experience, it is working fine. Signal strength may vary and it depends on the situation (cloudy, clear sky, surounding area, buildings, etc.).
On average, I got satellite fix around 30 - 60 seconds.
However, some people experienced problems which you can follow here:
http://www.modaco.com/GPS-positioning-problems-t259285.html
Paul from MoDaCo.com, reported a bug
"The GPS bug seems to occur with some applications whereby the GPS 'data stream' will pause for a few seconds at a time, which makes some apps think the GPS has gone away (e.g. Google Maps) and other apps just update in sudden jumps rather than smoothly."
http://www.modaco.com/Paul-Reviews-HTC-P45-t256569.html
But, I think that problem is intermittent (randomly occur).
*** How about TomTom PLUS service?
Check out here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328444
*** TomTom always start with NO SOUND, why?
It's a bug, you have to switch off the data connection before starting TomTom.
SIMPLE FIX: Roll the volume wheel and sound turns on.
Thanks to all XDA-Dev users, Paul and other users from MoDaCo.com
Feel free to add more information in here
I added this thread to the wiki.
The above is all good info.
However, if you are having problems do not believe that the above is the only setup that will work.
I happen to use a bluetooth setup from time to time and have used the external GPS settings without problems.
A working setup for me for intermal GPS uses Other NMEA on COM 9 at a Baud Rate of 19200. In the Tomtom settings.
All other GPS programmes I use are set to COM9
When I setup the bluetooth I have it set to:
Serial Port (ticked)
Outgoing Port COM 9
Authentication (unchecked)
External GPS (in System menu)
(Perform a full backup before changes here - due to reports that changes here may ruin the GPS connection requiring a hard-reset to get it going again)
GPS Programme Port COM9
Hardware (None)
Access (Manage GPS automatically - ticked)
By the way the basic freeware plotting applications I use DO NOT require the clumsy workaround of starting tomtom in order to open the internal GPS. That problem seems to be limited to an issue with Google Maps.
NB
Other ports will work - eg COM0 but you must ensure that for example if you set outgoing port in bluetooth (if you also use BT GPS) to COM0 then it will also be COM0 in tomtom or any other GPS software. Any mismatch and you'll wait forever!
NB
In the tomtom satellite screen (the one that shows aseries of columns for each satellite - there is a useful verbal comment at the top of the screen it will say one of three things:
1
No GPS Device - (always says this initially for 2/3 seconds. If things are set correctly it will move to 2 but if your ports are wrongly set it will stay on this)
2
No Valid GPS Signal - (means it has found internal GPS device and is trying to find satellites - anything from 2 or 3 seconds to couple of minutes if you have not used Quick GPS, it will then move to 3 if you are in range of satellites)
3
Other NMEA GPS Receiver - (says this when locked on to satellites and working correctly)
The above 3 steps are useful to just check whether the setup and port is correct. Even if you do not want to use tomtom it's worth running it at least once just to iron out any port problems.
Mike
gogol said:
*** Can I use/install other maps?
Yes you can. You can purchase additional maps (maps only), and then activate it.
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How?
I copy the folders of others maps into the microsd, bit if i go to settings- change maps I can't see them! Then i can't put the code to activate them!
What i'm doing wrong?
teresa said:
How?
I copy the folders of others maps into the microsd, bit if i go to settings- change maps I can't see them! Then i can't put the code to activate them!
What i'm doing wrong?
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Use TomTom HOME program to install maps.
Richard
Thanks, very good thread indeed.
gogol said:
*** I dont have that executable file in my HTC Kaiser Application CD!
Yes, you are not alone, probably you purchased North America version.
You can also download it here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/56585274/6_032_8351.rar (this link might not be permanent)
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Tried to install this 6.032 version on my TyTN II but got the following error on the device upon starting the installation: "Setup Error: Unable to install application. Please update your device ROM to the required version before trying again." - any ideas? Thanks ...
Would be happy to pay for the software / maps if they wouldn't it make all that difficult to get it installed for a trial ...
Maybe this is a dumb question, but I can't get the On board GPS to kick up and when I look under settings, the only thing there is "External GPS"....
How do you get it to use the internal GPS?
trjons said:
Maybe this is a dumb question, but I can't get the On board GPS to kick up and when I look under settings, the only thing there is "External GPS"....
How do you get it to use the internal GPS?
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Are you sure u installed 6.032 Tom Tom release? Is the version caming with CD and is not in Tom Tom web. Is the only version that works with internal GPS; but youet guy. can have problems to install it, if you have a previous version.
There is no "internal GPS" icon in the "Settings", only "external GPS"
And dont mess around with the "external GPS", you might need to hard-reset.
TomTom 6.032 has its own setting to use the "internal GPS".
trjons said:
Maybe this is a dumb question, but I can't get the On board GPS to kick up and when I look under settings, the only thing there is "External GPS"....
How do you get it to use the internal GPS?
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galahor said:
Are you sure u installed 6.032 Tom Tom release? Is the version caming with CD and is not in Tom Tom web. Is the only version that works with internal GPS; but youet guy. can have problems to install it, if you have a previous version.
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I would disagree with that. Other versions of tomtom DO work. But in tomtom's "configure" select other NMEA instead of internal GPS
Mike
mikechannon said:
I would disagree with that. Other versions of tomtom DO work. But in tomtom's "configure" select other NMEA instead of internal GPS
Mike
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I agree. I wanted say is the only version capable to tune internal GPS from Tom Tom program. I know versions 6, 6.02 and 6.03 works with othen NMEA and port 4, but my impresion is with internal get satellites faster.
Is there a way for TomTom to give the vocal instruction through the Bluetooth headset ?
Thanks
Jean-Yves
Anyone get a wrong rom error when installing 6.032? UK T-Mob.
Yes me too
As I understood, the T-Mobile version does not have TomTom Taster edition included in the application CD, correct???
If that's the case, I am afraid that the TomTom 6.032 from the HTC Kaiser "unlocked" version is a special build only for that unlocked model.
Just use 6.030, it works fine (read in the FAQ).
Yeah i guess if the rom numbers dont match up, it wont let you install. Not on Taster CD.
Using 60.30 now 8)
No TOMTOM love...
My Kaiser just showed up today and there' no TOMTOM on the apps cd.
What gives?
helm
I installed the Tom Tom and the one free Map, but I still have the same issue I had with Google maps of having to run GPS Viewer to start up the GPS.
I'm sure its a configuration issue for Tom Tom but I can't figure out what the problem is.
You got problem with Google maps and you thought that is TomTom configuration issue? ...
trjons said:
I installed the Tom Tom and the one free Map, but I still have the same issue I had with Google maps of having to run GPS Viewer to start up the GPS.
I'm sure its a configuration issue for Tom Tom but I can't figure out what the problem is.
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Hi all,
I'm trying to use google maps with the internal GPS but the program say me that not founds any gps. How I must set the device?
Thank's
try to jumpstart your GPS with GPSview then start googlemaps. this might work.
Sorry but...
what is GPSview? It's an external application?
madness974 said:
Hi all,
I'm trying to use google maps with the internal GPS but the program say me that not founds any gps. How I must set the device?
Thank's
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works fine for me when setting the port to 4 and and baudrate to 4800 in Google maps
In START>Setting>EXTERNAL GPS
I have this setting:
programs (TAB) - DATA PORT GPS: COM4
hardware (TAB) - hardware GPS port: none
- baud 4800
Access (TAB) - Automatic GPS control (DEFAULT)
I set in google map COM4 and baud 4800, but don't work
Sorry, but I've the TYTN II fron 2 days
Use any GPS Application like TomTom to start the GPS and then switch to google maps without closing TomTom. This should work.
Goole Maps doesn't wait always long enough for a gps signal.
Special2k3
Ok, thank to all for reply, now I'll try...
Keep retrying till the gps gets the fix. If you get the fix with another application and then try with google maps, it will be very fast.
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Tnx all
All solved!
All default and google maps work perfectly, without open other GPS application!!!
How, exactly, did you solve it?
that's bloody annoying he didnt share the love - i have the same problem!
I noticed that gps doesn't work when you're sitting at home. I've never had it failed on me when I was in the car, specially when the car was moving.
I used google map's and the gps feature to take me through an hour of traffic coming home from work.
GPS
I start up my GPS with GPS Photo to initialize(takes time to load) then open Google Map.
Hope this helps
Will givethe gps foto thing a go - good thinking!
Its amazing after 2 days wifi gps sniffing how many wireless AP there are
http://www.blackfire.be/maps/
GPS Photo works well also
little_rock said:
that's bloody annoying he didnt share the love - i have the same problem!
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Here is what worked for me.
Goto Settings>System>External GPS, use the Kaiser defaults of GPS program port=COM4, Hardware=None, Baud rate=4800, Enable "Manage GPS automatically."
Run quickgps and download the current ephermis ?spelling data. This speeds up the time to first satellite lock.
Go outside, preferably open location with clear view of the sky.
Run gpsPhoto from the Camera app.
Allow a few minutes to obtain first satellite lock.
Once you have a satellite lock you can close the Camera app and open Google Maps and change Menu>Options>Track Location Settings to "Set by Windows". Press the OK left softkey.
Press the Right Menu softkey and select Track Location.
Bingo you should have a Satellite Lock and Google Maps should center on your location.
I only had to do this procedure once as Google Maps now aquires a lock in seconds. The Kaiser gps works better indoors than my 2 previous Blutooth GPS units, I can see which room of my house I am in. As with all GPS devices it works better in an open environment free from reflections from buildings and free from Tree cover. I am really impressed with the Kaiser GPS.
you rock dude
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Sorry to all for my tardive reply
I've solved the problem simply without change nothing.
All default, and launcing google maps the gps start automatically (if not, initialize it with any gps software, like tomtom, gps photo, etc).
BUT - IMPORTANT
Google maps function well in open spaces, I tried it in closed, so, don't worked.
In open space, all ok, it's work fine.
N.B. I've an italian version of O.S. :
CE 5.2.1620 (build 18125.0.4.2)
Rom 1.56.408.5
Data Rom 08/28/07
Vers. Radio 1.27.12.11
Vers. prot. 22.45.88.07H
I feel it can help someone.
Thank's to all for your help and interesting
wizzzard said:
Here is what worked for me.
Goto Settings>System>External GPS, use the Kaiser defaults of GPS program port=COM4, Hardware=None, Baud rate=4800, Enable "Manage GPS automatically."
Run quickgps and download the current ephermis ?spelling data. This speeds up the time to first satellite lock.
Go outside, preferably open location with clear view of the sky.
Run gpsPhoto from the Camera app.
Allow a few minutes to obtain first satellite lock.
Once you have a satellite lock you can close the Camera app and open Google Maps and change Menu>Options>Track Location Settings to "Set by Windows". Press the OK left softkey.
Press the Right Menu softkey and select Track Location.
Bingo you should have a Satellite Lock and Google Maps should center on your location.
I only had to do this procedure once as Google Maps now aquires a lock in seconds. The Kaiser gps works better indoors than my 2 previous Blutooth GPS units, I can see which room of my house I am in. As with all GPS devices it works better in an open environment free from reflections from buildings and free from Tree cover. I am really impressed with the Kaiser GPS.
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You said something very interesting here...you said you can see which room you're in. How is that? more of a curiosity thing than a useful thing but I guess it could be handy in large buildings (assuming you can get a fix).
Also, FYI, the new Google Maps is much better at waiting for the GPS to fire up. The timeout value is much more forgiving. I've noticed in the new Gmaps, It just works now.
Seems like after updating the new patch they released that upgrades to 1.62 when I go to google maps and use "GPS" it doesnt work half the time.. and the other half the time it puts me off by a couple streets...
used to work just fine pre upgrade =/
bump... anyone?
maybe i have to change GPS settings on the phone? what should the ports or w/e be set to? like COMM1 or w/e?
What app are you using to map/view the coordinates?
I am interested in your problem, as I use the GPS quite often with the GPS Photo capability, but haven't updated the ROM yet. (I'm in a different country at the moment and don't want to break something that isn't broken with the upgrade without a quick solution to fix.)
I wonder if it's just a mapping issue and if you've tried different programs, (Google/MS Live Search), or if you're using TomTom.
Let me check my settings...
Programs Tab: Com4
Hardware Tab: None
Access Tab: Manage GPS checked
These settings work for me with MS Live and Google Maps. I hope this helps you. Drop some feedback on your success, or lack of, if you don't mind.
i use google maps... and used them with previous firmware as well. havent tried any other services.
just checked.. i have settings set to same as you.
can you check if you got "assisted GPS" turned on in Keiser Tweak?
Good question. I only recently (two days ago) updated to the new Kaiser Tweak and previously used the old one. The aGPS option wasn't in the old one and I haven't used the GPS since the Kaiser Tweak upgrade.
Ok, just fired up MS Live Search and with aGPS enabled, it pulled up the map location fine.
I also have VisualGPSce installed and that works fine with the GPS. The settings on that are for Port: COM4 at 9600 baud.
Google Maps Mobile also works. It's set to the Windows default for the GPS option.
I don't know if aGPS was turned on by default before (Old Kaiser Tweak). I'll give it a try though and see if I get better results. I'm currently in Japan and aGPS system is alive and well here.
Download and try out the VisualGPSce program. http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/
It will kick back data right away on what satellites it can view. Use the same settings as I do above. At least you won't have to wait for it to get a fix, to see if the GPS is working.
Direct link to the cab file: http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/VisualGPSceInstall.CAB
Hi,
I try to use Google map with GPS but it's success! Seem Google map can't detect any satellites. Anyone has the same problem? Who has experience to fix it?
Thanks.
Works OK for me, the first time took a while to lock on but OK after that. Make sure you run QuickGPS as well
Thanks for your reploy! I did enable A-GPS by Advanced Configure and run QuickGPS but the google did not work! It tried to seek satellites but nothing found!
The first time I ran the program it had to have a clear line of sight to the sky for a few minutes - between 5-10 i think.
After that it should be a bit quicker, but of course it doesn't often work inside a house so you may need to stand in your garden
Try this : Menu / Options / GPS setting / Manual setting (approximately, I have it in czech),and I have in other application COM4 and Baud-rate 4800
I've had the same problem in the beginning. GMaps couldn't connect to GPS at all.. I then set the GPS settings to manual, but it didn't work.. Reverted to automatic and got the gps working within 15 seconds!
Hope this helps
Hi
Thanks for your reploy! I did enable A-GPS by Advanced Configure and run QuickGPS but the google did not work! It tried to seek satellites but nothing found!
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This setting is a waste of time, as you need your mobile operator to support A-GPS for a start, and then you must have the correct settings entered which are not exposed in Advanced Configuration. By default the phone will be trying to contact an HTC test server which can't be reached from any mobile network.
Disable A-GPS for best results unless you have the settings required and it is supported by your mobile operator.
Regards
Phil
I have tried using google maps, all I can get is directions, from A to B.. and pinopint my current location.. but I also have seen that it is possible to get turn by turn or real-time navi with X1.. how can I go about doing this?
Atm, when I try to use GPS through the menu option, it doesnt work..
The GPS module in your phone is a piece of hardware. In order to use it to connect with all those satelites in orbit and make them talk to your phone, you need a program, a software. Some software give you only your location and directions, like Google Maps, other software gives you turn-by-turn navigation.
You need to download such a program, install it and download maps for it. One of the best GPS navigation programs for Xpreia are - IGO 8 and TOM TOM 7.
Google them. You have to pay for them, because the free ones are crap. Some require you to pay only for the maps.
Cheers.
Tom tom/route66/garminxt/igo8 are amongst the most popular easy to find and install using google.
you could also try www.nav4all.com, wich is an offboard navigator with only arrows and voice assistent, no maps however. but it's free for the time being. it's a lightweight app that downloads turn by turn navigation on the go.
Get CoPilot Live. It's only $35 and outstanding software. I also just got an email from them saying they will update maps for free every 45 days or something. Hard to believe, but may well be true.
If you don't have the money to buy any software then you can always find a way of getting them for free, Google being your friend
A couple of other options for turn by turn directions
Garmin (which is what I use)
Waze (free) - http://www.waze.com/
-- Mike
Another vote for Garmin XT