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no gps on wm6 google maps mobile

according to gmm the gps isn't set on the gps in the settings area of the wm. i recall seeing this option on wm5 but isn't present on wm6. it's probably a simple registry lookup if anyone can find a work around let me know.
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rhuie said:
according to gmm the gps isn't set on the gps in the settings area of the wm. i recall seeing this option on wm5 but isn't present on wm6. it's probably a simple registry lookup if anyone can find a work around let me know.
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GPS didn't work for me in Google Maps even though it was set up and working correctly with TomTom Navigator. Though I am using WM5. If it is a reg hack to make those options show up in settings they might be in the wiki.

i saw it on another sub forum. i think universal. it is somewhere in the registry.

HKLM\Controlpanel\GPS Settings
Add value "Group" (dWord)
Value "2" (show) Delete "redirect" and "hide" completely (if its there)
to rehide enter value "1" (hide)

is that to enable GPS on WM6? can i use it on my 8125?

CLS_500 said:
is that to enable GPS on WM6? can i use it on my 8125?
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it puts the gps icon in the connection settings

Dammit! finally a question on this forum I actually had the answer to and several beat me to it! ;-)
Hopefully my musings will help someone or two setting this up anyway...
GMM seems to rely on the PPC "telling" it that it has a GPS, and where it is, instead of GMM "looking" for it, like most GPS software does.
The reg hack posted above will restore the GPS icon in Settings > Connections. Then you tell the utility what port your GPS is really on, and then setup what virtual port you want software to think it's on. (You can select "COM0-COM9" or "GD0-GD9- I assume the "GD" stands for GPS Device" and not what the hell is a G** D*** GD port?") Once you do this, Google Maps finds the GPS no problem.
I tried it GMM after "fixing" the GPS problem yesterday, and almost had my 8-year old son convinced the sat picture he was viewing was "live" until he noticed there was no snow in the on-screen "live camera" view of the Denver suburbs! ;-)
As a bonus, the GPS manager in WM allows you to use multiple GPS programs at once- (usually when a program connects to a COM port it gets exclusive access, but this virtual port is available to all programs.) It was a hoot switching between Mapopolis, GMM and MS Virtual Earth and comparing. (V Earth is slower downloading data over GPRS/EDGE compared to GMM, but I like having the street names superimposed over the aerial image.)
Weird heads-up in case you run into this- my usual GPS Nav software (Mapopolis) wouldn't see the GPS on the "fake" COM port unless I used one of the "GDx" ones. Any other "COMx" (other than the real one) wouldn't work. I suspect this is because Mapopolis probably checks the hardware directly for COMx ports rather than going through the OS, but is forced to go through WM for the virtual GDx ports that don't really exist in hardware, so sticking to a GDx port is probably best (it will also avoid accidentally selecting a virtual COM that conflicts with a real COM port like your IR port, etc.) I suspect the other major PPC Nav programs probably do the same as Mapopolis and go to the hardware directly since this virtual GPS port stuff is fairly new...
Hope I helped someone! ;-)

elecconnec said:
Dammit! finally a question on this forum I actually had the answer to and several beat me to it! ;-)
Hopefully my musings will help someone or two setting this up anyway...
GMM seems to rely on the PPC "telling" it that it has a GPS, and where it is, instead of GMM "looking" for it, like most GPS software does.
The reg hack posted above will restore the GPS icon in Settings > Connections. Then you tell the utility what port your GPS is really on, and then setup what virtual port you want software to think it's on. (You can select "COM0-COM9" or "GD0-GD9- I assume the "GD" stands for GPS Device" and not what the hell is a G** D*** GD port?") Once you do this, Google Maps finds the GPS no problem.
I tried it GMM after "fixing" the GPS problem yesterday, and almost had my 8-year old son convinced the sat picture he was viewing was "live" until he noticed there was no snow in the on-screen "live camera" view of the Denver suburbs! ;-)
As a bonus, the GPS manager in WM allows you to use multiple GPS programs at once- (usually when a program connects to a COM port it gets exclusive access, but this virtual port is available to all programs.) It was a hoot switching between Mapopolis, GMM and MS Virtual Earth and comparing. (V Earth is slower downloading data over GPRS/EDGE compared to GMM, but I like having the street names superimposed over the aerial image.)
Weird heads-up in case you run into this- my usual GPS Nav software (Mapopolis) wouldn't see the GPS on the "fake" COM port unless I used one of the "GDx" ones. Any other "COMx" (other than the real one) wouldn't work. I suspect this is because Mapopolis probably checks the hardware directly for COMx ports rather than going through the OS, but is forced to go through WM for the virtual GDx ports that don't really exist in hardware, so sticking to a GDx port is probably best (it will also avoid accidentally selecting a virtual COM that conflicts with a real COM port like your IR port, etc.) I suspect the other major PPC Nav programs probably do the same as Mapopolis and go to the hardware directly since this virtual GPS port stuff is fairly new...
Hope I helped someone! ;-)
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Thanks for this. I thought I did do this but only set up one of the tabs it's working perfectly now.

How do you enable internal GPS?

Google maps says there should be a "Settings -> System -> GPS"
but I only see External GPS.
Is my GPS not enabled?

This has been discussed a ton already, use any other GPS application 1st, like TomTom or search for GPS Viewer, a simple GPS app. Configure the app for GPS at Com 4, 4800baud. Also be sure and enable the Quick GPS app that came with the TyTN and download the current data. Once you get a fix from any other application, Google Maps will work normally.

My apologies. First day with the Kaiser and just trying to get a handle on it. I did search but didn't seem to get that answer, a lot of other information.

if you purchase software like tomtom navigator 6 you dont even need to use a "jumpstart" app. It will just work.

Lavachild said:
if you purchase software like tomtom navigator 6 you dont even need to use a "jumpstart" app. It will just work.
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yeah im not sure what the purpose of the quickgps program is. I use tomtom by itself and it always locks on in just a few seconds.

Quick GPS performs a function callled Assisted GPS (A-GPS) and it is a way to save time to acquire a fix by predownloading satellite data into the phone so that the GPS doesn't have to download the same data from the sats while initializing. A "cold" gps startup can take several minutes, A-GPS brings it down to a few seconds.
This is seperate from the Google problem where it appears that Google doesn't wait long enough to get the initial fix and fails. After the Phone gets a fix using another program (not Quick GPS), then Google maps works normally. Mapping progs like TomTom and iGuidance just work right from install providing you set the com to 4 and Baud between 4800 and 38400.

Internal GPS in Google MAPS

Hi all,
I'm trying to use google maps with the internal GPS but the program say me that not founds any gps. How I must set the device?
Thank's

try to jumpstart your GPS with GPSview then start googlemaps. this might work.

Sorry but...
what is GPSview? It's an external application?

madness974 said:
Hi all,
I'm trying to use google maps with the internal GPS but the program say me that not founds any gps. How I must set the device?
Thank's
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works fine for me when setting the port to 4 and and baudrate to 4800 in Google maps

In START>Setting>EXTERNAL GPS
I have this setting:
programs (TAB) - DATA PORT GPS: COM4
hardware (TAB) - hardware GPS port: none
- baud 4800
Access (TAB) - Automatic GPS control (DEFAULT)
I set in google map COM4 and baud 4800, but don't work
Sorry, but I've the TYTN II fron 2 days

Use any GPS Application like TomTom to start the GPS and then switch to google maps without closing TomTom. This should work.
Goole Maps doesn't wait always long enough for a gps signal.
Special2k3

Ok, thank to all for reply, now I'll try...

Keep retrying till the gps gets the fix. If you get the fix with another application and then try with google maps, it will be very fast.

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Tnx all
All solved!
All default and google maps work perfectly, without open other GPS application!!!

How, exactly, did you solve it?

that's bloody annoying he didnt share the love - i have the same problem!

I noticed that gps doesn't work when you're sitting at home. I've never had it failed on me when I was in the car, specially when the car was moving.
I used google map's and the gps feature to take me through an hour of traffic coming home from work.

GPS
I start up my GPS with GPS Photo to initialize(takes time to load) then open Google Map.
Hope this helps

Will givethe gps foto thing a go - good thinking!

Its amazing after 2 days wifi gps sniffing how many wireless AP there are
http://www.blackfire.be/maps/
GPS Photo works well also

little_rock said:
that's bloody annoying he didnt share the love - i have the same problem!
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Here is what worked for me.
Goto Settings>System>External GPS, use the Kaiser defaults of GPS program port=COM4, Hardware=None, Baud rate=4800, Enable "Manage GPS automatically."
Run quickgps and download the current ephermis ?spelling data. This speeds up the time to first satellite lock.
Go outside, preferably open location with clear view of the sky.
Run gpsPhoto from the Camera app.
Allow a few minutes to obtain first satellite lock.
Once you have a satellite lock you can close the Camera app and open Google Maps and change Menu>Options>Track Location Settings to "Set by Windows". Press the OK left softkey.
Press the Right Menu softkey and select Track Location.
Bingo you should have a Satellite Lock and Google Maps should center on your location.
I only had to do this procedure once as Google Maps now aquires a lock in seconds. The Kaiser gps works better indoors than my 2 previous Blutooth GPS units, I can see which room of my house I am in. As with all GPS devices it works better in an open environment free from reflections from buildings and free from Tree cover. I am really impressed with the Kaiser GPS.

you rock dude

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Sorry to all for my tardive reply
I've solved the problem simply without change nothing.
All default, and launcing google maps the gps start automatically (if not, initialize it with any gps software, like tomtom, gps photo, etc).
BUT - IMPORTANT
Google maps function well in open spaces, I tried it in closed, so, don't worked.
In open space, all ok, it's work fine.
N.B. I've an italian version of O.S. :
CE 5.2.1620 (build 18125.0.4.2)
Rom 1.56.408.5
Data Rom 08/28/07
Vers. Radio 1.27.12.11
Vers. prot. 22.45.88.07H
I feel it can help someone.
Thank's to all for your help and interesting

wizzzard said:
Here is what worked for me.
Goto Settings>System>External GPS, use the Kaiser defaults of GPS program port=COM4, Hardware=None, Baud rate=4800, Enable "Manage GPS automatically."
Run quickgps and download the current ephermis ?spelling data. This speeds up the time to first satellite lock.
Go outside, preferably open location with clear view of the sky.
Run gpsPhoto from the Camera app.
Allow a few minutes to obtain first satellite lock.
Once you have a satellite lock you can close the Camera app and open Google Maps and change Menu>Options>Track Location Settings to "Set by Windows". Press the OK left softkey.
Press the Right Menu softkey and select Track Location.
Bingo you should have a Satellite Lock and Google Maps should center on your location.
I only had to do this procedure once as Google Maps now aquires a lock in seconds. The Kaiser gps works better indoors than my 2 previous Blutooth GPS units, I can see which room of my house I am in. As with all GPS devices it works better in an open environment free from reflections from buildings and free from Tree cover. I am really impressed with the Kaiser GPS.
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You said something very interesting here...you said you can see which room you're in. How is that? more of a curiosity thing than a useful thing but I guess it could be handy in large buildings (assuming you can get a fix).

Also, FYI, the new Google Maps is much better at waiting for the GPS to fire up. The timeout value is much more forgiving. I've noticed in the new Gmaps, It just works now.

Restoring app (QuickGPS) from Windows directory?

During the hunt for a fix for the hopeless GPS in the new 6.1 Rom, I stupidly uninstalled QuickGPS, and now - since I've found no other fix and it's patently something that HTC need to sort out - I'd like to reinstall it, in the dim hope it will be useful again some day.
Although there are various QuickGPS cab files floating around, none of the ones I've found are the peculiar 6.1 version (marked "Version 1.0" but copyright 2008, and with a higher build number starting 220.821). The only ones I've managed to download from anywhere are the original versions from 6.0 Roms, which - while they don't work any worse than the newer one - aren't any better either, and may well prove to have some other problem under 6.1. They must have changed it for a reason right?
Now it turns out, from reading up elsewhere, that my QuickGPS is still there on the device, sort of - if I set File Explorer to "show all files" and browse the \Windows folder, QuickGPS.exe is there, and it's the right version - I can even run it and download data. But it's no longer an installed program, so doesn't run automatically, and (since I deleted it's registry entries before) it's not setup properly there either.
Without a CAB to re-install it properly, is there any way I can persuade my phone to accept it back as an installed application, short of a hard reset? Or, does anyone perchance have it as a CAB?

I do not know why people are using the newest QuickGPS. THe only difference the program has is cosmetic. THe only purpose of QuickGPS is to have your phone read the GPS signal quick if you are using AGPS. Hence why it needs to connect to the internet to work.
True GPS signal is one from the GPS receiver built into the phone. First are you using AGPS??? Secondly if not, I do not see the reason for having it on your phone unless your using AGPS.

Ok, firstly, there is no "cosmetic" difference between the different builds of QuickGPS, so I'm kind of doubting your authority there straight from the off. The lack of any obvious difference is exactly what makes me think there probably is a more significant change under the hood. Secondly I was using the latest QuickGPS because that's what came with the latest 6.1 ROM update (which I'm also using). It wasn't some crazy whim of mine; HTC put it there, presumably for a reason.
You're confusing QuickGPS with A-GPS; in the context of the Tytn II they're two different things. QuickGPS is an app which downloads ephemeris data when online (during Activesync sessions etc) for use later offline. In theory, the GPS should be able to use this data later to speed up fixes, since it already has the empheris data and doesn't need to download this from the satellite. At the point at which you're out and about using the GPS, no internet connection is needed, because QuickGPS has already stored the data locally. This worked well (for me at least) on the old 6.0 ROM, but is sadly broken in the 6.1 update (and no, reverting to the original QuickGPS doesn't fix it - the problem is most likely in the radio).
A-GPS is different, it's using live data from the network to help triangulate position and speed up the fix - meaning a live connection is needed whenever you use GPS. It's only active if you have it switched on in the registry, and AFAIK only certain networks support it - on HTC branded devices it's always switched off by default.

Is there really no way to reinstall an app, when all the files are apparently just sitting there?

in the first place.....how did you install the app? did you lose the cab file that you used to install it?
secondly.......how did you uninstall it, but not manage to remove the file

The only answer i know will work for sure is a hard reset. (Not the answer you were after I'm sure).
After messing with various quickgps cabs trying to fix this problem i managed to stop my gps switching on at all. (Didn't go near the Windows Intermediate Driver settings).
The only positive is it gave me the opportunity to try a new 6.1 rom (Dutty's Diamond) and i'm really happy with the rom but sadly we still have the quickgps issue.
For a test i compared to a friends Artemis and after a Quickgps update his tomtom had all the sats in view within a few seconds. My posh Vario 3 didn't have anything.
pjam

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in the first place.....how did you install the app? did you lose the cab file that you used to install it?
secondly.......how did you uninstall it, but not manage to remove the file
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QuickGPS gets installed automatically after a hard reset - it's in ROM as one of HTC's customisations. The surprising thing is that I was able to uninstall it, through the remove programs screen.
The files are still there because, apparently, they never left - they just got hidden. "Show all files" in explorer reveals them though. What isn't there is an installation cab - just the app files themselves, doing nothing.
That said, since I ran one of those files it now *is* doing something, happilly - after I messed with the options it re-established it's registry settings and is now running again as a service in the background, surviving soft resets. I manually recreated the shortcut in "programs" and basically all is well again, although since the option to uninstall hasn't returned it presumably still considers itself uninstalled somehow...

About the cosmetic difference I was referring to the QuickGPS in the newest DIamond Roms that are being ported over. I appologize for not reading your first post more clearly. Sorry about that

GPS with Google map is not working

Hi,
I try to use Google map with GPS but it's success! Seem Google map can't detect any satellites. Anyone has the same problem? Who has experience to fix it?
Thanks.

Works OK for me, the first time took a while to lock on but OK after that. Make sure you run QuickGPS as well

Thanks for your reploy! I did enable A-GPS by Advanced Configure and run QuickGPS but the google did not work! It tried to seek satellites but nothing found!

The first time I ran the program it had to have a clear line of sight to the sky for a few minutes - between 5-10 i think.
After that it should be a bit quicker, but of course it doesn't often work inside a house so you may need to stand in your garden

Try this : Menu / Options / GPS setting / Manual setting (approximately, I have it in czech),and I have in other application COM4 and Baud-rate 4800

I've had the same problem in the beginning. GMaps couldn't connect to GPS at all.. I then set the GPS settings to manual, but it didn't work.. Reverted to automatic and got the gps working within 15 seconds!
Hope this helps

Hi
Thanks for your reploy! I did enable A-GPS by Advanced Configure and run QuickGPS but the google did not work! It tried to seek satellites but nothing found!
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This setting is a waste of time, as you need your mobile operator to support A-GPS for a start, and then you must have the correct settings entered which are not exposed in Advanced Configuration. By default the phone will be trying to contact an HTC test server which can't be reached from any mobile network.
Disable A-GPS for best results unless you have the settings required and it is supported by your mobile operator.
Regards
Phil