according to gmm the gps isn't set on the gps in the settings area of the wm. i recall seeing this option on wm5 but isn't present on wm6. it's probably a simple registry lookup if anyone can find a work around let me know.
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rhuie said:
according to gmm the gps isn't set on the gps in the settings area of the wm. i recall seeing this option on wm5 but isn't present on wm6. it's probably a simple registry lookup if anyone can find a work around let me know.
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GPS didn't work for me in Google Maps even though it was set up and working correctly with TomTom Navigator. Though I am using WM5. If it is a reg hack to make those options show up in settings they might be in the wiki.
i saw it on another sub forum. i think universal. it is somewhere in the registry.
HKLM\Controlpanel\GPS Settings
Add value "Group" (dWord)
Value "2" (show) Delete "redirect" and "hide" completely (if its there)
to rehide enter value "1" (hide)
is that to enable GPS on WM6? can i use it on my 8125?
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is that to enable GPS on WM6? can i use it on my 8125?
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it puts the gps icon in the connection settings
Dammit! finally a question on this forum I actually had the answer to and several beat me to it! ;-)
Hopefully my musings will help someone or two setting this up anyway...
GMM seems to rely on the PPC "telling" it that it has a GPS, and where it is, instead of GMM "looking" for it, like most GPS software does.
The reg hack posted above will restore the GPS icon in Settings > Connections. Then you tell the utility what port your GPS is really on, and then setup what virtual port you want software to think it's on. (You can select "COM0-COM9" or "GD0-GD9- I assume the "GD" stands for GPS Device" and not what the hell is a G** D*** GD port?") Once you do this, Google Maps finds the GPS no problem.
I tried it GMM after "fixing" the GPS problem yesterday, and almost had my 8-year old son convinced the sat picture he was viewing was "live" until he noticed there was no snow in the on-screen "live camera" view of the Denver suburbs! ;-)
As a bonus, the GPS manager in WM allows you to use multiple GPS programs at once- (usually when a program connects to a COM port it gets exclusive access, but this virtual port is available to all programs.) It was a hoot switching between Mapopolis, GMM and MS Virtual Earth and comparing. (V Earth is slower downloading data over GPRS/EDGE compared to GMM, but I like having the street names superimposed over the aerial image.)
Weird heads-up in case you run into this- my usual GPS Nav software (Mapopolis) wouldn't see the GPS on the "fake" COM port unless I used one of the "GDx" ones. Any other "COMx" (other than the real one) wouldn't work. I suspect this is because Mapopolis probably checks the hardware directly for COMx ports rather than going through the OS, but is forced to go through WM for the virtual GDx ports that don't really exist in hardware, so sticking to a GDx port is probably best (it will also avoid accidentally selecting a virtual COM that conflicts with a real COM port like your IR port, etc.) I suspect the other major PPC Nav programs probably do the same as Mapopolis and go to the hardware directly since this virtual GPS port stuff is fairly new...
Hope I helped someone! ;-)
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Dammit! finally a question on this forum I actually had the answer to and several beat me to it! ;-)
Hopefully my musings will help someone or two setting this up anyway...
GMM seems to rely on the PPC "telling" it that it has a GPS, and where it is, instead of GMM "looking" for it, like most GPS software does.
The reg hack posted above will restore the GPS icon in Settings > Connections. Then you tell the utility what port your GPS is really on, and then setup what virtual port you want software to think it's on. (You can select "COM0-COM9" or "GD0-GD9- I assume the "GD" stands for GPS Device" and not what the hell is a G** D*** GD port?") Once you do this, Google Maps finds the GPS no problem.
I tried it GMM after "fixing" the GPS problem yesterday, and almost had my 8-year old son convinced the sat picture he was viewing was "live" until he noticed there was no snow in the on-screen "live camera" view of the Denver suburbs! ;-)
As a bonus, the GPS manager in WM allows you to use multiple GPS programs at once- (usually when a program connects to a COM port it gets exclusive access, but this virtual port is available to all programs.) It was a hoot switching between Mapopolis, GMM and MS Virtual Earth and comparing. (V Earth is slower downloading data over GPRS/EDGE compared to GMM, but I like having the street names superimposed over the aerial image.)
Weird heads-up in case you run into this- my usual GPS Nav software (Mapopolis) wouldn't see the GPS on the "fake" COM port unless I used one of the "GDx" ones. Any other "COMx" (other than the real one) wouldn't work. I suspect this is because Mapopolis probably checks the hardware directly for COMx ports rather than going through the OS, but is forced to go through WM for the virtual GDx ports that don't really exist in hardware, so sticking to a GDx port is probably best (it will also avoid accidentally selecting a virtual COM that conflicts with a real COM port like your IR port, etc.) I suspect the other major PPC Nav programs probably do the same as Mapopolis and go to the hardware directly since this virtual GPS port stuff is fairly new...
Hope I helped someone! ;-)
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Thanks for this. I thought I did do this but only set up one of the tabs it's working perfectly now.
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Can anyone help me with such problem.
I tryed with all avaliable AKU 3.2 versions (ell, faria, rc etc)
Everywhere i cant fing GPS icon in settings. But i realy need that thing.
As i found both gps dlls in place, also all registry settings related to gps are same (i've checked on WM5 emulator from MS where its shown normaly).
Also as reported by taskmanager driver are loaded too
(GPSID.dll Loaded Automatic $device\GPD0
So just one - there are no its Icon , co i cant setup ports.
Any ideas ?
Found solution by myself :0)
Will write here if its help someone.
You need remove two keys under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
delete all values there except DWORD "Group" = 2
then it shows again under Settings/Connections.
Wonderful, will try that.
TIA
I have made the changes to the registry and the GPS Icon is displayed in Settings, Connections. I understand the logic of the application but I think I am missing something......
If I configure the GPS settings to Program Com Port to Com7 and Hardware to Com6 (BT GPS receiver) and allow Windows Mobile to Manage GPS Automatically. If I load TomTom and configure for Com7 it doesn't see the GPS receiver, if I change it back to Com6 it works. If I close TomTom and load Pocket Streets, then configure this for Com7 it sees the GPS receiver. If I then leave Pocket Streets running and load TomTom then the GPS receiver cannot be seen on Com6 anymore and is instead on Com7.
I assume this is because Pocket Streets is loading the GPS driver dynamically?
How do I get around this?
i Think for using that features program need to use MS GPS API, here on my wizard, i runing many programs, old ones working via virtual com7 port (i use same port numbers as you) very bad, constantly loses fix, sometimes not see gps at all and so on, but when same software connected directly to com6 all just fine.
But all MS GPSAPI samples from Visual Studio working just great.
Another issue is SIRF binary protocol. Im using BT receiver with that chipset and it can work in its native binary SIRF format, there are some advantages comparing to standart NMEA, but looks like MS driver support only NMEA text format.
So, right now, as i found better solution, disabled ms gps and using franson gps gate software avaliable in net.
i lost the values
i think after a soft reset i lost the icon and the values can you help me rewrite the values? [email protected]
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i think after a soft reset i lost the icon and the values can you help me rewrite the values? [email protected]
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If you want the icon to be displayed in control panel then it's just a case of deleting the 2 registry keys - Hide & Redirect, so that only the Group key remains. Soft reset and the icon should be displayed.
HTH
Andy
ADB100 said:
If you want the icon to be displayed in control panel then it's just a case of deleting the 2 registry keys - Hide & Redirect, so that only the Group key remains. Soft reset and the icon should be displayed.
HTH
Andy
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i do not know how but i lost the Geoup key also. for a minute i saw the gps icon when i soft reseted the machine it was lost so did the values that had removed(off caurse) and the group also.
ADB100 said:
If you want the icon to be displayed in control panel then it's just a case of deleting the 2 registry keys - Hide & Redirect, so that only the Group key remains. Soft reset and the icon should be displayed.
HTH
Andy
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i do not know how but i lost the Geoup key also. for a minute i saw the gps icon when i soft reseted the machine it was lost so did the values that had removed(off caurse) and the group also.
mariosraptor said:
i do not know how but i lost the Geoup key also. for a minute i saw the gps icon when i soft reseted the machine it was lost so did the values that had removed(off caurse) and the group also.
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thanks i found it.
There are two apps that I have used that I must say make the GPS built into the Kaiser along with its data connectivity pretty cool. Of course, the GPS is a great tool for mapping software such as TomTom, iGuidance, Google Maps, MS Live Search, and others... but the possibilities of GPS in a connected device like the Kaiser can lead to many other great things. Two that I have found useful are Mobile Justice and 3d Tracking. Here is a quick description of what they are.
First, I have installed Mobile Justice which alerts you when a SIM card is changed and will send a text message to a number of your choosing when it is changed... for example it was stolen and a card was sent in. It can also send the current GPS location. In addition, you can send the device a text message with a keyword and request at any time, the current GPS location. You can also put a message on the device screen. I know people often cook this application into ROMs. I hope that someone does this for a future Kaiser kitchen. I learned about the new GPS features here: http://www.wmexperts.com/articles/mobile_justice_sms_your_phone.html
The other app that I have used that is kind of nifty is 3d tracking. It updates your GPS location in near real time to a website that you can use a PC to monitor. The mapping is done using Google maps. Very cool way to keep track of valuables such as your teenagers. ;-)
http://free.3dtracking.net/home.aspx
What other cool uses for the GPS have you found to use with your Kaiser?
I think the latest is the GPS photo functionality that was discovered to be built in. We were talking about this functionality at work but in an actual camera. Little did I know that i would discover this same function active in my TyTn II
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I think the latest is the GPS photo functionality that was discovered to be built in. We were talking about this functionality at work but in an actual camera. Little did I know that i would discover this same function active in my TyTn II
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I did see that in the forums which just made the camera in the phone that much more useful. Very useful when on hikes or vacationing to take a quick snapshot. Sure, the camera on the phone is not a replacement for a high quality digital camera, but it is convenient and in outdoor light, does a pretty good job. Combined with the GPS tagging, it is fun too. I hope we get to see even more uses for the integrated GPS.
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y2whisper said:
I think the latest is the GPS photo functionality that was discovered to be built in. We were talking about this functionality at work but in an actual camera. Little did I know that i would discover this same function active in my TyTn II
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Can you please explain this function and how it can be used.
I am using Nokia's smart2go gps software in my Tytn-II and its working gr8, with Nokia's maploader u can download very detailed maps with very good databases particularly for middle-east.
Similar to your Mobile Justice product, here's one I saw the other day. Its kind of like LoJack for your phone:
http://www.pocketpc-live.com/pocketpc-softwares/ultimate-theft-alert-v3-for-pocket-pcs-2.html
It You can have your phone let you know where it is if its ever lost.
The company I work for does gps tracking for sports (running, skiing etc). I won't post the link, as i dont want to be seen as advertising.
But its pretty cool to be able to see how fast you ski (57.2mph is my fastest so far).
Someone sent me a note on this site that does something similar to 3d tracking. I will try it out now to see how it works.
http://gps.gpsxml.com/
Here is another tool that has a description with features similar to WIMP (Where Is My Phone) and Mobile Justice. Has anyone heard of it or tested it before? It is called Ultimate Theft Alert and has GPS as an add-on option.
http://www.pocketpc-live.com/pocketpc-softwares/ultimate-theft-alert-v3-for-pocket-pcs-2.html
I had no idea there were so many tools for GPS integrated mobile phones. Here is another freebie, this time from a well known PPC developer, VITO Technology. It is called FindMe
http://www.vitotechnology.com/en/products/findme.html
And for those with coding experience... here is an example with source code.
http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/FindMe.asp
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Can you please explain this function and how it can be used.
I am using Nokia's smart2go gps software in my Tytn-II and its working gr8, with Nokia's maploader u can download very detailed maps with very good databases particularly for middle-east.
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Basic use would be if you wanted to add pictures to a map (google earth i believe supports this) you take a picture and in geomarks your pic.
It is basically done by regedit - you can read more on this in this exact forum (should be on page one or two -- easy for us to say this while the kaiser forum is still fresh)
Have a look at this..... http://www.reperion.com/
Downloaded the software, registered an account and now my handset can be tracked by anyone with a pc.
yeah the file download was down before, working now, will try this one out
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Have a look at this..... http://www.reperion.com/
Downloaded the software, registered an account and now my handset can be tracked by anyone with a pc.
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This is free for now it seems. I will try it out. Do you know if it is any different than 3d tracking? That one is free too.
Had a quick look t 3d tracking, reprion looks to do asimilar thing.
Both seem pretty cool anyway
Some more interesting GPS software: http://www.jgui.net/gps/index.html
Personal observation: There should be a standard for SMS messages whereby the GPS coordinates of the sender can be sent along with text or mms messages. This would be handy for location based services and when chatting with friends.
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ericb said:
Have a look at this..... http://www.reperion.com/
Downloaded the software, registered an account and now my handset can be tracked by anyone with a pc.
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AND PDA ! )
http://geocool.reperion.com
Somthing wrong with the GPS
Hi
There's something definitely wrong with the GPS happening from time to time.
Today, TomTom was off by nearly 1 kilometre using the internal GPS. Using BT GPS everything was fine.
After a restart: the location was spot on again.
It has happened to me 3-4 times now that the GPS is completely off the charts.
Wonder if this could be fixed with a Radio ROM update ..
swarnabhab said:
Can you please explain this function and how it can be used.
I am using Nokia's smart2go gps software in my Tytn-II and its working gr8, with Nokia's maploader u can download very detailed maps with very good databases particularly for middle-east.
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Sorry to maybe possible hijack this threat a little. I am also using smart2go. But I can't download any maps to my MicroSD with the Maploader. It always complaint that there is no space in my card (which has 3.7GB free). How were you able to download the maps to your card?
Many thanks in advance!
PS. Never mind. I found out that Smart2Go probably has a problem with storage cards larger than 2GB as if I use smaller MicroSD cards, the Map Loader works fine. So the solution is to run Smart2Go with a blank 2G or smaller card, then copy the files to the 4G MicroSDHC. Then Map Loader works (with a size limit of 1.8G for map data).....
Ok so still having some problems.
As noted here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332811
Some programs don't instal for me, WIMP did install however (haven't tested it yet) so my assumption would be some kind of security setting that is on when installing cabs, do you guys turn it off? (i remember there was a way to do this with the Hermes) or do these apps just install out of the box (per se)?
EDIT:
Looks like its some kind of problem when i transfer the file over via activesync to the card. I put it on via straight pc to another card and it installs fine.
Seems like after updating the new patch they released that upgrades to 1.62 when I go to google maps and use "GPS" it doesnt work half the time.. and the other half the time it puts me off by a couple streets...
used to work just fine pre upgrade =/
bump... anyone?
maybe i have to change GPS settings on the phone? what should the ports or w/e be set to? like COMM1 or w/e?
What app are you using to map/view the coordinates?
I am interested in your problem, as I use the GPS quite often with the GPS Photo capability, but haven't updated the ROM yet. (I'm in a different country at the moment and don't want to break something that isn't broken with the upgrade without a quick solution to fix.)
I wonder if it's just a mapping issue and if you've tried different programs, (Google/MS Live Search), or if you're using TomTom.
Let me check my settings...
Programs Tab: Com4
Hardware Tab: None
Access Tab: Manage GPS checked
These settings work for me with MS Live and Google Maps. I hope this helps you. Drop some feedback on your success, or lack of, if you don't mind.
i use google maps... and used them with previous firmware as well. havent tried any other services.
just checked.. i have settings set to same as you.
can you check if you got "assisted GPS" turned on in Keiser Tweak?
Good question. I only recently (two days ago) updated to the new Kaiser Tweak and previously used the old one. The aGPS option wasn't in the old one and I haven't used the GPS since the Kaiser Tweak upgrade.
Ok, just fired up MS Live Search and with aGPS enabled, it pulled up the map location fine.
I also have VisualGPSce installed and that works fine with the GPS. The settings on that are for Port: COM4 at 9600 baud.
Google Maps Mobile also works. It's set to the Windows default for the GPS option.
I don't know if aGPS was turned on by default before (Old Kaiser Tweak). I'll give it a try though and see if I get better results. I'm currently in Japan and aGPS system is alive and well here.
Download and try out the VisualGPSce program. http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/
It will kick back data right away on what satellites it can view. Use the same settings as I do above. At least you won't have to wait for it to get a fix, to see if the GPS is working.
Direct link to the cab file: http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/VisualGPSceInstall.CAB
Hi guys... anyone played with the application http://www.mgmaps.com/ and actually got it to work with the internal GPS unit?
I've tried, but all I get is "GPS functionality not available on this phone".
Took a look on their support forum, and lots of others seem to be having difficulty getting this baby to recognize internal GPS units.
So,,, just thought I'd ask the experts...
/drt
They have a page that talks about how to fully set it up on a Windows Mobile device.
http://www.mgmaps.com/winset/
Look at step 13. "If you have an internal GPS on WM6, you can assign a virtual serial port to it with this GPSID Configuration utility." They link to a .CAB that you can download.
Try that.
clstan said:
They have a page that talks about how to fully set it up on a Windows Mobile device.
http://www.mgmaps.com/winset/
Look at step 13. "If you have an internal GPS on WM6, you can assign a virtual serial port to it with this GPSID Configuration utility." They link to a .CAB that you can download.
Try that.
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Thanks for the idea, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. No mater what I set the ports to, I get the same message. Do you have settings which work?
i dont get it, why not just install the free google maps software?
Because it is software that amazingly can access arieal photos from many different sources, also sets up a storage for maps so you can use them offline and reload then instead of downloading the images everytime you start google maps. I am working on this and will post as soon as I have an answer.
First and foremost. This may be just my imagination, but I'm starting to think that part of the GPS issues that everybody experiences with the Raphael (Fuze) might be due to TomTom's DLLs...
I've used TomTom extensively on my past 3 phones - an 8525, a Kaiser, and now my Fuze. I just got Igo MyWay 8 - and have to say that overall, I'm much happier with Igo (and I loved TomTom in spite of it's shortcomings with this phone).
Satellite lock and speed
- Igo gets a satellite lock *MUCH* faster than TomTom ever could. I assumed that this wouldn't change, assuming it was a hardware anomaly - but it appears the DLLs used to communicate from software to OEM device vary from app-to-app. Igo wins this one hands down - I get locks inside my house inside of 20 seconds COLD and within 3-5 seconds "hot" or outside. No, I'm not on acid. That fast.
Ease of use
- TomTom *is* more customizable. But many of the customizations you can make are... well... useless. TomTom has the edge here, but not by much.
Features
- Igo has Text-to-Speech (TTS) - something that apparently TomTom has no intention of supporting. I've heard rumors that the current version of TT does support TTS, but I have the current version and could find nothing on it. In the directions, the saying of street names is VERY helpful. Igo matches TT feature-by-feature, the only thing I missed in Igo was the browse map of TomTom (you can browse in Igo - it's just not as intuitive). Also, Igo has actual 3D mapping of both topography and major cities. Way cool - know where the next big hill is, navigate based on building shape, etc.
Igo wins hands-down.
Cost
- Both have the pay-for-map business model, though Igo's at least for the moment are significantly cheaper. Igo wins again.
POIs
- TomTom seemed to have a bit more POI's loaded stock, but the difference was negligible. Even.
All in all, I'll keep TomTom on my phone, but purely for reference if needed. Since I installed Igo, I've not used TomTom even once.
I have to agree with you on all points. I used to be a big believer in Tomtom, but after trying iGo 8 i will not be going back!
I've read a bunch of good stuff about Igo... the thing that sucks is that apps like footprints are usually tomtom compatible and nothing else.
I guess it all depends where you are... I've researched igo a bit and I dont think the maps released for north america as up to date as TOMTOMS... I could be wrong though. If they are... do they have 3d landmarks like they do in Europe? By like they do in Europe I mean as many...
Contacts?
Can you navigate to your contacts addresses with Igo?
I used Igo before and the reason I switched back to TomTom was simply because I use it for business.
So navigating to my contact addresses is a must.
Does your version of Igo support contact addresses?
p50kombi said:
Can you navigate to your contacts addresses with Igo?
I used Igo before and the reason I switched back to TomTom was simply because I use it for business.
So navigating to my contact addresses is a must.
Does your version of Igo support contact addresses?
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Nope. I don't see any contact adress implementation in iGO8. Seems like a very difficult feature though... You never know if you wrote all street names correctly
I've used both IGO and TomTom and I disagree with the results here.
1. TomTom makes usage of special tools such as traffic, downloading extra extra POI with ease, and also editing your map with ease
2. TomTom has MANY more POI then IGO, my entire town had like 10 POI on IGO, on TomTom it has more than 100
3. I feel the TomTom is easier to manage in terms of locking on a GPS, setting it up (depending on where you configured it) and other methods.
TomTom wins
KRAZzysoldier said:
Nope. I don't see any contact adress implementation in iGO8. Seems like a very difficult feature though... You never know if you wrote all street names correctly
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That's not really true.
If TomTom gets confused, it shows you the options that it thinks are most likely to match the contact address and you can choose the one you think it is.
So for me, TomTom wins by a landslide.
btw, with Igo, I had much more GPS lag than with TomTom.
p50kombi said:
That's not really true.
If TomTom gets confused, it shows you the options that it thinks are most likely to match the contact address and you can choose the one you think it is.
So for me, TomTom wins by a landslide.
btw, with Igo, I had much more GPS lag than with TomTom.
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Great! I didn't know that because I never used TomTom as they don't make uptodate maps for my country. Igo has always provided the best routes as it has the most up to date maps for me... it seems that the app one might prefer more depends on the location. Afterall that's what gps navigation software's main purpose is.
The definitive answers
When I saw a new Igo8 thread, why, I immediately pitched a tent in my pants, round house kicked and double fist pumped!
Igo8, when customized the right way, is the best hands down.
I currently have R3 Igo 8.3 (Jan 7). Now, you don't want to use the most current POI files that come with it (as they are limited)-use previous versions (8.0 or 8.01) and modify the ,txt file so the program recognizes it.
[poi]
enable_pois_before_090117=1
Igo CAN navigate your contacts, the only prerequisite is that NO APARTMENT/SUITE numbers be in the contact address. Igo will tell you which addresses cannot be found by going to (when running Igo):
menu/manage/geocoding errors
There, you'll be able to see which contacts failed.
Activate phone option (so you may call a poi/contact directly from igo). Sys.txt addition:
[Phone]
Driver=TAPI
Class_name=exe_path="/windows/prog.exe
Win_name="phone"
SKIN IT!
Full screen at its best, download the Gurjon (only 8.3.x.x) skin, Excellent.
BRAND IT!
Download a branding.zip to enable icons to be seen (Texaco, Schmcdonald icons seen on screen. Nice!
Okay, tent down...
Edit: Added skin (only for R3 igo8) and sys.txt
telegraph0000 said:
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Igo CAN navigate your contacts, the only prerequisite is that NO APARTMENT/SUITE numbers be in the contact address. Igo will tell you which addresses cannot be found by going to (when running Igo):
menu/manage/geocoding errors
There, you'll be able to see which contacts failed.
Activate phone option (so you may call a poi/contact directly from igo). Sys.txt addition:
[Phone]
Driver=TAPI
Class_name=exe_path="/windows/prog.exe
Win_name="phone"
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WOW! 10x, I really didn't know this feature was embedded, although I've been using iGo for 3 years now.
There are some newer TeleAtlas maps floating around for iGo 8.3. I haven't tried them yet though, but I think they're 2008.10.
TomTom uses TeleAtlas maps as well, although I don't know what the latest version is.
For me, Navteq maps are more complete in my area, but I might have to try the newest TeleAtlas ones to see if they have my subdivision yet.
Garmin Mobile XT has always been the most trustworthy for me, plus the embedded Google Local Search is the BEST thing for GPS on these phones. If you have data, you can search Google for POI's from within Garmin. This is so much better than relying on static, built-in POI's.
For example, last night I was going to Toys R Us in Rockford, IL. I knew where it was but when we got there we found out they moved. I wasn't sure where the new location was. I used the Local Search in Garmin and it had the new location.
Garmin has its quirks as well, but this feature, along with live traffic and fuel prices is the reason I stick with it. I do miss TTS and some other features of iGo, but I can also live without them.
The only thing that has kept me away from TomTom over the last few years is that the maps in my area weren't as complete.
iGo was great when I used it. I liked TTS and the terrain. Its choice of routes was questionable at time, and I've always had an issue with the ETA. For a 5-5.5 hour trip it would show about 6.5 hours and the ETA time wouldn't be accurate until I was within about 30 minutes of my destination.
It's a bit of a fault of the map. If it uses some default speed limits it can even suggest a wrong route. Example. There is a road in my city, that has speed limit 80km/h, but it's set as 50km/h so it usually doesn't suggest a side trip to that road, when it's much faster (also, almost everybody drive over the limit on that road), it's the road that continues as E80 .
I run TomTom on my Fuze and I can say that I have zero issues with it. It works exactly, if not even better, as it did on my 8125 (Wizard) and my 8525 (Hermes).
Igo
Igo, Igo and Igo !
I didn't know about the phone settings but it only make it more interesting ....
One other thing : maps files are a lot smaller in Igo than in Tom Tom so you can put more maps on your sd card.
Igo is a lot more customizable than Tom Tom and poi's are not really an issue because there is so much available. By the way, if it is for poi uses Google maps and its online search.
Garmin has a great reputation but I find it less interesting.
I have tested the latest garmin, Tom Tom 7.9 and I go 8.3 and I stick to Igo but the latest AmIgo (Igo 8.4) is something difficult to swallow. They say that they have removed all the difficult parts for the user but I think they have removed too much lol
I completely agree with your Amigo comment (flying carpet? Please). It is stripped down, bare bones, a beginner gps program that grandma can easily use.
The thing I love best about Igo (Besides using it as my own 411 directory) is its seemingly endless customization. The skinning makes it worthwhile to search for thst perfect skin. There are skins that alter/add menu options (more than just Route, manage, settings, find).
I upgraded to Gurjon GJ6.2p (www.Gurjon.com)...great upgrade. I can now:
1. Run a program (calculator, calendar, contacts) directly within Igo.
2. Multi-route (fast, short, economical, easy, scenic) and see all on the screen and color coded.
3. Add 10 additional Map screen settings (3d settings, lane info, short menu, turn settings, transparency, bars and pads, waypoint & destination, and more...)
4. Bluetooth enabled.
5. See the actual direction of a poi (with an arrow pointing the direction and distance based on your current location.
Yeah..lag, what can you do with it...
The TomTom version I have supports TTS but yeah I agree that it takes a lot of time to lock. Maybe after some time I will give Igo a shot
As I said - the lag issue seems to be a hardware issue and is still present with Igo (but I still say the positional lag issue is a non-issue for me - I can live with a 1-2 second delay).
For me, the maps (topography as well as 3-d building in major cities) coupled with the TTS makes Igo *very* attractive. I didn't even know about skinning it until I read the responses above this - another big plus for me.
As far as not (to my knowledge) having traffic or weather plugins - honestly - who cares? TomTom charges what I feel is an exorbitant fee for these services and thus renders them useless features to me.
And above all, I still say the satellite locking is faster with Igo.
Mileage may vary - and everybody will have features that are more important to them (like navigate to contact) - but as for myself - I've not loaded TomTom even once since putting Igo on.
A note about POIs... TomTom was anything but complete either - to the point that I never relied on it. When it comes to adding POIs, I'd say that both are equally adept and again makes this a non-issue.
Additionally, for me personally, any service that would rely on a data connection is out the window - I travel off the beaten path and into the sticks quite frequently where data connections are often a pipe-dream. That said - even if I were to pay for (eg) weather service, online poi ability - the services would be totally unusable when I've got no data connection. Again - rendering the ability a total non issue.
Hmm
I have been trying iGo8 and came to this discussion because I think it is awful to use, and was looking for something else.
I have it on an HTC Touch HD. From the outset it made little sense, wanting to plan a route from A to B seems impossible, only from GPS to B.
Today my iGo thinks Im somewhere on the M25 where google maps knows I am home in West Sussex. I have exited Igo twice and restarted, same issue.
Thumbing a map to see where you are or to look at surrounding areas on iGo is a joke, simply awful. It uncontrollably moves waaaaay past a mere gesture, and even when you press your thumb down to stop it moving, it continues.
I really hope TomTom is better, or I will need to buy a "real" GPS for my car... but at this point iGo gets a thumbs down.
Mark.
You probably have an addition to your sys.txt that makes the map move in that manner. Don't remember what the coding is...but I too hated it and removed it to scroll ONLY when I touched the screen.
As to routing...all you need to do is touch start point, 'cursor'-->set as start point. Then touch your destination, 'cursor'-->set as destination---simple.