TomTom 6 Guide for HTC Kaiser (FAQ) - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps

Here I compiled list of question and answer about using TomTom 6 with the HTC Kaiser. Forum Mods, if this is good enough, please make it sticky topic.
*** Which version of TomTom is in the Application CD?
6.032 (8351) - as of September 15, 2007
*** Is that full version or trial version?
It is called TomTom Taster Edition and It is full version, it will not expired, and there is no feature limitation compared to retail version.
*** Is it installed in the ROM by default?
No, it is not. You need to manually install it.
*** How to install it?
Connect to ActiveSync, from the HTC Kaiser Application CD, launch:
Installer_Kaiser_ttn_6_032_8351_HTC_WWE_20070716.EXE
*** I dont have that executable file in my HTC Kaiser Application CD!
Yes, you are not alone, probably you purchased North America version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329957
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327917&page=2
You can also download it here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/56585274/6_032_8351.rar (this link might not be permanent)
Or here (.CAB):
http://www.sendspace.com/file/9379xf (this link might not be permanent)
*** I have TomTom 6.030 (or prior version), what's the main difference?
6.032 has "Built-in Internal GPS" setting and the HTC Kaiser also have one.
*** Can I use/install other maps?
Yes you can. You can purchase additional maps (maps only), and then activate it.
*** Warning! Do not change the external GPS setting!
You should see "external GPS" icon in the Settings->System, do not change anything there.
You might need to hard-reset your device, more info:
http://www.modaco.com/word-warning-re-GPS-se-t258943.html
*** How can I use my own TomTom software?
So, you do not want to use TomTom from the Application CD.
Basically, you just need to install your own TomTom software and use this setting for the GPS:
- Other NMEA GPS receiver
- GPS baud rate = 4800
- GPS is connected to COM4:
For detailed information, check out here:
http://www.modaco.com/TomTom-Kaiser-t256790.html
*** How good is the internal GPS? Any problems?
From my own experience, it is working fine. Signal strength may vary and it depends on the situation (cloudy, clear sky, surounding area, buildings, etc.).
On average, I got satellite fix around 30 - 60 seconds.
However, some people experienced problems which you can follow here:
http://www.modaco.com/GPS-positioning-problems-t259285.html
Paul from MoDaCo.com, reported a bug
"The GPS bug seems to occur with some applications whereby the GPS 'data stream' will pause for a few seconds at a time, which makes some apps think the GPS has gone away (e.g. Google Maps) and other apps just update in sudden jumps rather than smoothly."
http://www.modaco.com/Paul-Reviews-HTC-P45-t256569.html
But, I think that problem is intermittent (randomly occur).
*** How about TomTom PLUS service?
Check out here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328444
*** TomTom always start with NO SOUND, why?
It's a bug, you have to switch off the data connection before starting TomTom.
SIMPLE FIX: Roll the volume wheel and sound turns on.
Thanks to all XDA-Dev users, Paul and other users from MoDaCo.com
Feel free to add more information in here

I added this thread to the wiki.

The above is all good info.
However, if you are having problems do not believe that the above is the only setup that will work.
I happen to use a bluetooth setup from time to time and have used the external GPS settings without problems.
A working setup for me for intermal GPS uses Other NMEA on COM 9 at a Baud Rate of 19200. In the Tomtom settings.
All other GPS programmes I use are set to COM9
When I setup the bluetooth I have it set to:
Serial Port (ticked)
Outgoing Port COM 9
Authentication (unchecked)
External GPS (in System menu)
(Perform a full backup before changes here - due to reports that changes here may ruin the GPS connection requiring a hard-reset to get it going again)
GPS Programme Port COM9
Hardware (None)
Access (Manage GPS automatically - ticked)
By the way the basic freeware plotting applications I use DO NOT require the clumsy workaround of starting tomtom in order to open the internal GPS. That problem seems to be limited to an issue with Google Maps.
NB
Other ports will work - eg COM0 but you must ensure that for example if you set outgoing port in bluetooth (if you also use BT GPS) to COM0 then it will also be COM0 in tomtom or any other GPS software. Any mismatch and you'll wait forever!
NB
In the tomtom satellite screen (the one that shows aseries of columns for each satellite - there is a useful verbal comment at the top of the screen it will say one of three things:
1
No GPS Device - (always says this initially for 2/3 seconds. If things are set correctly it will move to 2 but if your ports are wrongly set it will stay on this)
2
No Valid GPS Signal - (means it has found internal GPS device and is trying to find satellites - anything from 2 or 3 seconds to couple of minutes if you have not used Quick GPS, it will then move to 3 if you are in range of satellites)
3
Other NMEA GPS Receiver - (says this when locked on to satellites and working correctly)
The above 3 steps are useful to just check whether the setup and port is correct. Even if you do not want to use tomtom it's worth running it at least once just to iron out any port problems.
Mike

gogol said:
*** Can I use/install other maps?
Yes you can. You can purchase additional maps (maps only), and then activate it.
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How?
I copy the folders of others maps into the microsd, bit if i go to settings- change maps I can't see them! Then i can't put the code to activate them!
What i'm doing wrong?

teresa said:
How?
I copy the folders of others maps into the microsd, bit if i go to settings- change maps I can't see them! Then i can't put the code to activate them!
What i'm doing wrong?
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Use TomTom HOME program to install maps.
Richard

Thanks, very good thread indeed.

gogol said:
*** I dont have that executable file in my HTC Kaiser Application CD!
Yes, you are not alone, probably you purchased North America version.
You can also download it here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/56585274/6_032_8351.rar (this link might not be permanent)
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Tried to install this 6.032 version on my TyTN II but got the following error on the device upon starting the installation: "Setup Error: Unable to install application. Please update your device ROM to the required version before trying again." - any ideas? Thanks ...
Would be happy to pay for the software / maps if they wouldn't it make all that difficult to get it installed for a trial ...

Maybe this is a dumb question, but I can't get the On board GPS to kick up and when I look under settings, the only thing there is "External GPS"....
How do you get it to use the internal GPS?

trjons said:
Maybe this is a dumb question, but I can't get the On board GPS to kick up and when I look under settings, the only thing there is "External GPS"....
How do you get it to use the internal GPS?
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Are you sure u installed 6.032 Tom Tom release? Is the version caming with CD and is not in Tom Tom web. Is the only version that works with internal GPS; but youet guy. can have problems to install it, if you have a previous version.

There is no "internal GPS" icon in the "Settings", only "external GPS"
And dont mess around with the "external GPS", you might need to hard-reset.
TomTom 6.032 has its own setting to use the "internal GPS".
trjons said:
Maybe this is a dumb question, but I can't get the On board GPS to kick up and when I look under settings, the only thing there is "External GPS"....
How do you get it to use the internal GPS?
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galahor said:
Are you sure u installed 6.032 Tom Tom release? Is the version caming with CD and is not in Tom Tom web. Is the only version that works with internal GPS; but youet guy. can have problems to install it, if you have a previous version.
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I would disagree with that. Other versions of tomtom DO work. But in tomtom's "configure" select other NMEA instead of internal GPS
Mike

mikechannon said:
I would disagree with that. Other versions of tomtom DO work. But in tomtom's "configure" select other NMEA instead of internal GPS
Mike
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I agree. I wanted say is the only version capable to tune internal GPS from Tom Tom program. I know versions 6, 6.02 and 6.03 works with othen NMEA and port 4, but my impresion is with internal get satellites faster.

Is there a way for TomTom to give the vocal instruction through the Bluetooth headset ?
Thanks
Jean-Yves

Anyone get a wrong rom error when installing 6.032? UK T-Mob.

Yes me too

As I understood, the T-Mobile version does not have TomTom Taster edition included in the application CD, correct???
If that's the case, I am afraid that the TomTom 6.032 from the HTC Kaiser "unlocked" version is a special build only for that unlocked model.
Just use 6.030, it works fine (read in the FAQ).

Yeah i guess if the rom numbers dont match up, it wont let you install. Not on Taster CD.
Using 60.30 now 8)

No TOMTOM love...
My Kaiser just showed up today and there' no TOMTOM on the apps cd.
What gives?
helm

I installed the Tom Tom and the one free Map, but I still have the same issue I had with Google maps of having to run GPS Viewer to start up the GPS.
I'm sure its a configuration issue for Tom Tom but I can't figure out what the problem is.

You got problem with Google maps and you thought that is TomTom configuration issue? ...
trjons said:
I installed the Tom Tom and the one free Map, but I still have the same issue I had with Google maps of having to run GPS Viewer to start up the GPS.
I'm sure its a configuration issue for Tom Tom but I can't figure out what the problem is.
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Related

WM5: Full installation guide for TomTom 5 with BT GPS

Rather easy, really.
1. Download the 5.10 upgrade from TomTom (You don't have to install the original 5.0 from the CD first). The file will be either an exe file or ppcup510.zip.
2. Unpack the zipfile (don't run the exe directly from WinRAR or similar programs, that will make it a lot harder to find the directories you want, unpack it to somewhere first). Run the update on the Windows PC. When the first window appears, go to the directory where the update is run from. Don't close the TomTom window, or the files you want will be deleted. You will see some new directories there, and what you want, is "nvapp". Within that you'll find a subdirectory called "app". Copy the four cab-files from that to your PPC, either via the network or ActiveSync. Never mind the ini files.
3. Go to your TomTom CD and find the directory Voice. You'll need to find the correct voice file. For Norway that's nor.cab, for Denmark it's dan.cab and so on. Copy that to the PPC as well.
4. Finally run all the five cabfiles. It doesn't matter which one you run first.
You're done. Of course there's the GPS as well:
1. Pair the Bluetooth GPS with the PPC.
2. Go into Settings, System, GPS. Set Program and hardware port to none and remove the tick from the box "Manage GPS automatically".
3. Settings, Connections, Bluetooth, COM Ports. Create an incoming port (I use COM8). Some ports will give you an error. Also create an outgoing port. I use COM7, and that is called "HOLUX GR-230 (COM7)" since I use a Holux GR-230 GPS.
4. Open TomTom and go through the regular setup. When you come to GPS setup, choose "Other Bluetooth GPS" and set that to the same port as your outgoing port. On my GPS that means COM7. Within 15 seconds your GPS should send signals. And you're good to go TomTom-ing!
And this was my post number 100. I'm so proud! :wink:
Thanks
I have added this to wiki but am not sure that it is for both WM5 and Ce2003.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Install_TomTom
WM5. You can simply run the installation app for WM2003SE, at least if you haven't installed AS 4, I have a sneakin' suspicion that it is the culprit, and not WM5 itself. And 2003 doesn't have the GPS applet in Settings.
And thanks! I tried to add it to the Wiki myself, but I'm hopeless with HTML and I haven't done any Wiki work...
Edit: Saw the note in the Wiki. I have done this twice on my WM5 Qtek 9090, it works as a charm.
Wiki is a piece of cake has Zero to do with coding.
use the edit button and you will see it.
There are one about 5 things you need to know and all of them you will see if you edit a page.
Maybe you would like to add your notes to the page!
Yeah, that was easy. It was creating a new page and linking to it that I couldn't get a grip on. Comments added.
Woo, Thx a lot. finally, i got tomtom 5 running on my ppc.
but anyway, anyone who has USA maps can share with us?? Westcost of USA is most importemt area for me.
Thanks again!!!!!!
Mastiff
If you go back a page and edit it you will see how to create a page.
After you have done the link a ? comes up, you then have to click on that to enter the content.
All Pages strart with BA_ or BA_WM5.
To get a feeling for links just edit a page that has one in it.
Check out the Wiki development Page on the root of BA wiki, You can set up a test area to create your own pages, edit format them ansd then post them when they are done. (you will see my page, edit it and will be able to work the rest out.)
If you have issues then pm me, I will also move files form Upload to a proper place and correct the link.
Have fun.
OK, thanks. I'll try that if I ever have anything worthy of the Wiki again... :wink:
Well, Tomtom is installed succesfully, but the registration of The Benelux map will not work.
This problem wasn't an issue before. With the TomTom 5.00 version from Bakonl.
Someone suggestions?
i got tomtom 5 installed and running fllowed by this guide. however, i copy the California Map to the root of SD Card. but tomtom shows "map not find"??
how to install a map. or i did something wrong?
by the way, i got map from my friend, he bought tomtom from bestbuy. i don't have full copy of tomtom 5. just downloaded the update package from tomtom.com
I just want to thank you for the great info on BT setup for GPS. I was trying to setup my Iguidance and Mapopolis with a Belkin BT GPS and had no luck. WM5 takes some getting used to.
Cheers!
Mastiff said:
Rather easy, really.
1. Download the 5.10 upgrade from TomTom (You don't have to install the original 5.0 from the CD first). The file will be either an exe file or ppcup510.zip.
2. Unpack the zipfile (don't run the exe directly from WinRAR or similar programs, that will make it a lot harder to find the directories you want, unpack it to somewhere first). Run the update on the Windows PC. When the first window appears, go to the directory where the update is run from. Don't close the TomTom window, or the files you want will be deleted. You will see some new directories there, and what you want, is "nvapp". Within that you'll find a subdirectory called "app". Copy the four cab-files from that to your PPC, either via the network or ActiveSync. Never mind the ini files.
3. Go to your TomTom CD and find the directory Voice. You'll need to find the correct voice file. For Norway that's nor.cab, for Denmark it's dan.cab and so on. Copy that to the PPC as well.
4. Finally run all the five cabfiles. It doesn't matter which one you run first.
You're done. Of course there's the GPS as well:
1. Pair the Bluetooth GPS with the PPC.
2. Go into Settings, System, GPS. Set Program and hardware port to none and remove the tick from the box "Manage GPS automatically".
3. Settings, Connections, Bluetooth, COM Ports. Create an incoming port (I use COM8). Some ports will give you an error. Also create an outgoing port. I use COM7, and that is called "HOLUX GR-230 (COM7)" since I use a Holux GR-230 GPS.
4. Open TomTom and go through the regular setup. When you come to GPS setup, choose "Other Bluetooth GPS" and set that to the same port as your outgoing port. On my GPS that means COM7. Within 15 seconds your GPS should send signals. And you're good to go TomTom-ing!
And this was my post number 100. I'm so proud! :wink:
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Just happy to be able to help. I've gotten so much help on this forum that it's good I can give something back. Also I struggled like crazy with this, and most of the stuff is just compiled from other posters.
I have installed tomtom 5 but I can't install language.
On my cd I got languages as zip files called **1,**2, etc
I don't find a cab file.
voices are ok now
but gps status is searching for 30 min,I got 2 blocks on status but still no gps connection!!???
Backlight Tomtom 5 with wm2005
The installation works perfect but when i start tomtom5, my backlight is going down. If i look at the backlight settings then they are OK. If i change one of the backlight settings while tomtom is active, the backlight is going on.
Mastif's solution is nice, but imho not conceptual
Mastif, thank you for your solution. But I think it isn't working at all. I'm talking about Blue Angel (WM5) and ASUS BT-100 GPS reciever.
I had big problem connecting TomTom 5.0 to GPS reciever under WM5. Devices were paired well, but TomTom 5.0 (and all other GPS programs) were not able to see serial port on which devices communicated. Avialable were just COM 1, 2 and 9 + BT UART. GPS was paired on ports 7 and 8.
After a lot of attempts I found a solution (IMHO supposed by MS as default):
- turn on Manage GPS Automatically in settings
- set correct hardware port where is GPS paired (COM8)
- choose port where programs should see GPS (COM7)
- start GPS application
- if I understood well, after first applications attempt to recieve GPS data, OS will create "virtual" GPS on port COM7, pair it with real GPS (the same PIN) and start to use it.
- voila! TomTom (5.0) started working!
BUT! This process is not repeatable! I spent a lot of time to start it again, with very bad success, sometimes ok, sometimes not. And I can't imagine that I will write PIN code for GPS pairing at every start of TomTom (eg in moving car
So I tried Mastifs solution with partial success, I upgraded TomTom at 5.1, turned off GPS sharing feature, paired GPS and TomTom 5.1 seems to be ok. But other programs not! They don't see paired COM port as well...
Any other advice? I need to complete this task to November, 1st, because I will drive Atlanta - Key West - and back. I need a satellite navigation! Last month I made a "little" trip Prague - Germany - Netherlands - Belgium - France - most western part of England and back, major part I drove alone and can't imagine driving without TomTom! But it was with MDAII (Himalaya), now with Blue Angel I am nearly lost!
Mastiff said:
Rather easy, really.
1. Download the 5.10 upgrade from TomTom (You don't have to install the original 5.0 from the CD first). The file will be either an exe file or ppcup510.zip.
2. Unpack the zipfile (don't run the exe directly from WinRAR or similar programs, that will make it a lot harder to find the directories you want, unpack it to somewhere first). Run the update on the Windows PC. When the first window appears, go to the directory where the update is run from. Don't close the TomTom window, or the files you want will be deleted. You will see some new directories there, and what you want, is "nvapp". Within that you'll find a subdirectory called "app". Copy the four cab-files from that to your PPC, either via the network or ActiveSync. Never mind the ini files.
3. Go to your TomTom CD and find the directory Voice. You'll need to find the correct voice file. For Norway that's nor.cab, for Denmark it's dan.cab and so on. Copy that to the PPC as well.
4. Finally run all the five cabfiles. It doesn't matter which one you run first.
You're done. Of course there's the GPS as well:
1. Pair the Bluetooth GPS with the PPC.
2. Go into Settings, System, GPS. Set Program and hardware port to none and remove the tick from the box "Manage GPS automatically".
3. Settings, Connections, Bluetooth, COM Ports. Create an incoming port (I use COM8). Some ports will give you an error. Also create an outgoing port. I use COM7, and that is called "HOLUX GR-230 (COM7)" since I use a Holux GR-230 GPS.
4. Open TomTom and go through the regular setup. When you come to GPS setup, choose "Other Bluetooth GPS" and set that to the same port as your outgoing port. On my GPS that means COM7. Within 15 seconds your GPS should send signals. And you're good to go TomTom-ing!
And this was my post number 100. I'm so proud! :wink:
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Hi firstly thanks for this method I'm so happy to have it working on my pda (your a champion)...One issue i have encountered is that even after installing off the update of 5.10 in prefs it says it is 5.0 which is odd to me as I have it working fully and as far as I know it doesn't have any probs with the probs of 5.0 but saying this i'm not sure how I would know if it is having probs with my vga etc etc
thanks in advance
Kind of strange. Mine says "Prg. Version 5.100 (5160)" under Preferences, Show version.
Thx for the guide, I finally got TT working again on wm5 !
One snag though ... TT5 doesn't appear in the Today screen, even when I select this program in "system - today" :?
XDA EXEC
MDAIIIUser said:
Thanks
I have added this to wiki but am not sure that it is for both WM5 and Ce2003.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Install_TomTom[/quoteHI I'm wounded if you could help me please I have been trying to get tomtom5 to work on my exec for some time now with out any joy , I have tried your way and when I go back to the PPC it just tells me the is no application please run set up first . It would be so great full as I'm a lorry driver and very stuck with out it cheers.]
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How do you enable internal GPS?

Google maps says there should be a "Settings -> System -> GPS"
but I only see External GPS.
Is my GPS not enabled?
This has been discussed a ton already, use any other GPS application 1st, like TomTom or search for GPS Viewer, a simple GPS app. Configure the app for GPS at Com 4, 4800baud. Also be sure and enable the Quick GPS app that came with the TyTN and download the current data. Once you get a fix from any other application, Google Maps will work normally.
My apologies. First day with the Kaiser and just trying to get a handle on it. I did search but didn't seem to get that answer, a lot of other information.
if you purchase software like tomtom navigator 6 you dont even need to use a "jumpstart" app. It will just work.
Lavachild said:
if you purchase software like tomtom navigator 6 you dont even need to use a "jumpstart" app. It will just work.
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yeah im not sure what the purpose of the quickgps program is. I use tomtom by itself and it always locks on in just a few seconds.
Quick GPS performs a function callled Assisted GPS (A-GPS) and it is a way to save time to acquire a fix by predownloading satellite data into the phone so that the GPS doesn't have to download the same data from the sats while initializing. A "cold" gps startup can take several minutes, A-GPS brings it down to a few seconds.
This is seperate from the Google problem where it appears that Google doesn't wait long enough to get the initial fix and fails. After the Phone gets a fix using another program (not Quick GPS), then Google maps works normally. Mapping progs like TomTom and iGuidance just work right from install providing you set the com to 4 and Baud between 4800 and 38400.

Internal GPS in Google MAPS

Hi all,
I'm trying to use google maps with the internal GPS but the program say me that not founds any gps. How I must set the device?
Thank's
try to jumpstart your GPS with GPSview then start googlemaps. this might work.
Sorry but...
what is GPSview? It's an external application?
madness974 said:
Hi all,
I'm trying to use google maps with the internal GPS but the program say me that not founds any gps. How I must set the device?
Thank's
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works fine for me when setting the port to 4 and and baudrate to 4800 in Google maps
In START>Setting>EXTERNAL GPS
I have this setting:
programs (TAB) - DATA PORT GPS: COM4
hardware (TAB) - hardware GPS port: none
- baud 4800
Access (TAB) - Automatic GPS control (DEFAULT)
I set in google map COM4 and baud 4800, but don't work
Sorry, but I've the TYTN II fron 2 days
Use any GPS Application like TomTom to start the GPS and then switch to google maps without closing TomTom. This should work.
Goole Maps doesn't wait always long enough for a gps signal.
Special2k3
Ok, thank to all for reply, now I'll try...
Keep retrying till the gps gets the fix. If you get the fix with another application and then try with google maps, it will be very fast.
SOLVED
Tnx all
All solved!
All default and google maps work perfectly, without open other GPS application!!!
How, exactly, did you solve it?
that's bloody annoying he didnt share the love - i have the same problem!
I noticed that gps doesn't work when you're sitting at home. I've never had it failed on me when I was in the car, specially when the car was moving.
I used google map's and the gps feature to take me through an hour of traffic coming home from work.
GPS
I start up my GPS with GPS Photo to initialize(takes time to load) then open Google Map.
Hope this helps
Will givethe gps foto thing a go - good thinking!
Its amazing after 2 days wifi gps sniffing how many wireless AP there are
http://www.blackfire.be/maps/
GPS Photo works well also
little_rock said:
that's bloody annoying he didnt share the love - i have the same problem!
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Here is what worked for me.
Goto Settings>System>External GPS, use the Kaiser defaults of GPS program port=COM4, Hardware=None, Baud rate=4800, Enable "Manage GPS automatically."
Run quickgps and download the current ephermis ?spelling data. This speeds up the time to first satellite lock.
Go outside, preferably open location with clear view of the sky.
Run gpsPhoto from the Camera app.
Allow a few minutes to obtain first satellite lock.
Once you have a satellite lock you can close the Camera app and open Google Maps and change Menu>Options>Track Location Settings to "Set by Windows". Press the OK left softkey.
Press the Right Menu softkey and select Track Location.
Bingo you should have a Satellite Lock and Google Maps should center on your location.
I only had to do this procedure once as Google Maps now aquires a lock in seconds. The Kaiser gps works better indoors than my 2 previous Blutooth GPS units, I can see which room of my house I am in. As with all GPS devices it works better in an open environment free from reflections from buildings and free from Tree cover. I am really impressed with the Kaiser GPS.
you rock dude
SOLVED
Sorry to all for my tardive reply
I've solved the problem simply without change nothing.
All default, and launcing google maps the gps start automatically (if not, initialize it with any gps software, like tomtom, gps photo, etc).
BUT - IMPORTANT
Google maps function well in open spaces, I tried it in closed, so, don't worked.
In open space, all ok, it's work fine.
N.B. I've an italian version of O.S. :
CE 5.2.1620 (build 18125.0.4.2)
Rom 1.56.408.5
Data Rom 08/28/07
Vers. Radio 1.27.12.11
Vers. prot. 22.45.88.07H
I feel it can help someone.
Thank's to all for your help and interesting
wizzzard said:
Here is what worked for me.
Goto Settings>System>External GPS, use the Kaiser defaults of GPS program port=COM4, Hardware=None, Baud rate=4800, Enable "Manage GPS automatically."
Run quickgps and download the current ephermis ?spelling data. This speeds up the time to first satellite lock.
Go outside, preferably open location with clear view of the sky.
Run gpsPhoto from the Camera app.
Allow a few minutes to obtain first satellite lock.
Once you have a satellite lock you can close the Camera app and open Google Maps and change Menu>Options>Track Location Settings to "Set by Windows". Press the OK left softkey.
Press the Right Menu softkey and select Track Location.
Bingo you should have a Satellite Lock and Google Maps should center on your location.
I only had to do this procedure once as Google Maps now aquires a lock in seconds. The Kaiser gps works better indoors than my 2 previous Blutooth GPS units, I can see which room of my house I am in. As with all GPS devices it works better in an open environment free from reflections from buildings and free from Tree cover. I am really impressed with the Kaiser GPS.
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You said something very interesting here...you said you can see which room you're in. How is that? more of a curiosity thing than a useful thing but I guess it could be handy in large buildings (assuming you can get a fix).
Also, FYI, the new Google Maps is much better at waiting for the GPS to fire up. The timeout value is much more forgiving. I've noticed in the new Gmaps, It just works now.

GPS?

(maybe a stupid question...) Doesn't the Touch Diamond have a built-in GPS receiver? If yes, how to I activate it? (can't find it anyware with the TRL cooked ROM). Thx.
YES if you bought your Diamond didn`t you read specs. ? You`re buying random stuff ?
You don`t need to activate that you need software which can use it. E.g. TomTom, iGO, Garmin, McGuider etc ...
also, try Google Maps, works nicely -> http://www.google.com/gmm/
To be more clear, GPS is automatically activated (and deactivated) by the software that uses it. You don't need to worry about it.
pedmond said:
To be more clear, GPS is automatically activated (and deactivated) by the software that uses it. You don't need to worry about it.
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pedmond is right...
but first you have to go to Settings - > External GPS and make sure the COM port that you set there matches the one you set in your software...
it can be managed automatically but I hate automatic stuff.
Alternative app?
Thanks, guys - you are GOLD. Got it working now - in Google Maps. Any suggestions for an alternative GPS app? - TomTom, IGo, Garmin, Route 66? What's best?
I would prefer:
1. Automatic updating of map data.
2. Local download of map data to internal storage.
3. Good and updated European coverage.
Thx.
happyguy82 said:
pedmond is right...
but first you have to go to Settings - > External GPS and make sure the COM port that you set there matches the one you set in your software...
it can be managed automatically but I hate automatic stuff.
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this what you think external GPS is for??
try again....think...external...external...
yep, happyguy....
Am I missing something?
happyguy82 was perfectly right that you have to make sure that you know the com port in external GPS. Anyone trying to get TomTom 6 working knows this for a fact.
Unless of course you were being sarcastic and the forum hasn't put that across?
From the Manual:
"External GPS: Set the appropriate GPS communication ports, if required.
You may need to do this when there are programs on your device that
access GPS data or you have connected a GPS receiver to your device."
sorry if i am wrong, but i think external GPS settings are for an external gps and not the built in. i never touched this settings except when i had an ETEN with a defective gps and i used an external one. right now my GPS hardware port is set to (none) and my iGO8 works just fine with the port it autodetected. tom tom needs special settings for this? sorry didn't know and i fail to see why......
really, sometimes is a good idea to read the manual
zyborg said:
I would prefer:
Q1. Automatic updating of map data.
Q2. Local download of map data to internal storage.
Q3. Good and updated European coverage.
Thx.
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A1.Automatic updating of map data???? with tomtom7 u can update the map data but not fully automatic(we wish), u have to connect it to your pc with tomtom home2 and have mapshare activated.
A2.as i know not possible yet
A3.In my oppinion Igo8 has the latest maps (2008Q1) of europe
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this what you think external GPS is for??
try again....think...external...external...
yep, happyguy....
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Never felt the need to open this up - as there is no need as you say and the default is com 4 anyway.
Canada?
Could anyone give a link as to where I can find free GPS software download, 1of the softwares listed in the poll.
I need it to have Canadian Map.
Thanks in Advance,
eNVy
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A2.as i know not possible yet
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A2. Possible with Garmin Mobile XT. I use Garmin and the beauty of it is that everytime I flash a ROM, once all the extras are loaded and the Diamond starts up, I get auto-prompted if I want to install Garmin, then agree to the license and it's done! No need to install CABs again or run Mapsource or anything! One thing I still haven't figured out is how to back-up my custom locations so I can reload them after flashing.
Installing TomTom, iGO
Ok, i need some serious help when it comes to installing TomTom, iGo or any other of these GPS apps. All the readme: s say you're suppose to copy the folders to your SD card, but obviously the Diamond uses internal memory, so this can't be done. I've tried plugging in the Diamond to my computer, choosing "storage card" instead of ActiveSync, and copying the iGo folder into the program files directory of the internalmemory. But nothing happens. Even if I open the iGo .exe from the Diamond itself later on. So again, can someone please tell me how to install one of these things?

Getting Tomtom 7 / tt7 to work LEGALLY

Having found and read the threads I can on the subject, I want to install Tomtom 7 (tt7) on my Diamond (I purchased the phone whilst on a trip to HK and it didn't have it installed), and to hook it up to Tomtom Home on my pc to purchase maps over and above the taster maps.
I've loaded the application cab from a thread on the Kaiser forum (which most people seem to agree is not Warez), and downloaded TT home 2.3 from the tomtom website. Have got the free taster map, but now want to buy more maps. However, I don't seem to be able to get Home to talk to my device.
From reading the threads, it's suggested to move the application from "Intern Gegeugen" (where it installs), to the Program Files folder. However, doing this breaks all the shortcuts.
Can anyone either provide a cab for the application that installs to the right place, or give me some step by step pointers how to get it all working? Would really appreciate the help!
Oh - and should anyone from Tomtom chance upon this post, the sooner you get your website and Home explicitly working for TT7, the faster I'm sure people like me would actually be buying your products- seems you've done the hard part of actually developing the software, just not making it easy for people to buy it right now!
That's interesting about moving the install folder... I haven't tried that. What I did do though was to uninstall Home 2.3 as I encountered the same problem and install Home Navigator 1.5. From there, you can just purchase maps of your choice. You need to link the device to a 'GO' device as they are the only models using version 7 software.
Hope this helps
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Having found and read the threads I can on the subject, I want to install Tomtom 7 (tt7) on my Diamond (I purchased the phone whilst on a trip to HK and it didn't have it installed), and to hook it up to Tomtom Home on my pc to purchase maps over and above the taster maps.
I've loaded the application cab from a thread on the Kaiser forum (which most people seem to agree is not Warez), and downloaded TT home 2.3 from the tomtom website. Have got the free taster map, but now want to buy more maps. However, I don't seem to be able to get Home to talk to my device.
From reading the threads, it's suggested to move the application from "Intern Gegeugen" (where it installs), to the Program Files folder. However, doing this breaks all the shortcuts.
Can anyone either provide a cab for the application that installs to the right place, or give me some step by step pointers how to get it all working? Would really appreciate the help!
Oh - and should anyone from Tomtom chance upon this post, the sooner you get your website and Home explicitly working for TT7, the faster I'm sure people like me would actually be buying your products- seems you've done the hard part of actually developing the software, just not making it easy for people to buy it right now!
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Place the contents of "Intern Gegeugen" into My Device/Program Files/Navigator on the Diamond. Connect via Activeynch and finf TomTom Navigator.exe in the above folder. Right click, choose create shortcut and paste that shortcut in My Device/Windows/Start Menu/Programs and rename it accordingly.
And after that you can connect with tomtom home 2.3 (for PDA). First you choose your memory location, get an error, go back and your device is connect.
I've just given that a go and moved the install onto the internal storage. It all still seems to work ok. One question though, other than free up the main memory are there any advantages/disadvantages to running the app from internal storage? (i.e. does it run slower from internal storage etc)
I find if you install TomTom 7 on the internal storage, TomTom home 2.3 comes up with an error, installing it the the internal memory TomTom home picks it up fine.
I have tried the above, but still cannot purchase any maps. when I Click on the maps i just get the message 'No Items Available'
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I find if you install TomTom 7 on the internal storage, TomTom home 2.3 comes up with an error, installing it the the internal memory TomTom home picks it up fine.
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same for me! tomtom home recognices my device but can't really communicate with it.
i use the maps i get with me touchcruise/xda orbit2, they are version 6.75.
connected with tomtom home 1, device can get connect. i used the maps from cdrom and could install them. afterwards i activated the map on my device using my product code card, no problem :-D
Only TT home 1.5 is compatible with Navigator.
What I did was upgrade my TT6 maps to the latest then using TT home transfered the maps to the device and installed TT 7 after. works well
I changed TT6 into TT7 and I could use the same maps. All is working fine.
One question:
TT7 does not get a fix, when phone is not on. I found it today, when I use Tomtom in a car about 10 minutes. I stopped and turned phone on, so Navigator 7 got the fix easily.
I have not agps on.
In Artemis I did not find this kind of symtom with Navigator 6.
i have also tomtom 6 with maps from my o2xda2. i've installed the maps from cd over tomtom home 1.5. it installed successfully. but in tomtom 7 on my diamond i can't still use the maps.. they aren't listed in manage maps?! what do i wtong?!
please help
i don't know, i just installed tt7, not 6, then connected it with tomtom 1.5.
put the cd in and i was capable to install the maps.
yeah... i did the same! all fine! but when i start tomtom on diamond i can't change the maps. i only see the demo-map. you can?
yes, i can. i even never installed the demo map. you know that you have to choose/change map in order to see the right one?
yes i know... but there who i can change the map i see only bern (demo-city-map)!!!
Not being a SatNav user I did this
I am not really a big user of SatNav as I read the signs on the road.
However, I am a lover of toys and have always kept a copy of tomtom nearby for fun.
I installed the XDA linked TT7.cab file (11.9mb) and directed it to Internal Storage.
Then I went online and created myself a tomtom account. I went through the maps purchase wizard stating my device was a GO 720 model.
I then purchased the 7.2 Great Britain and NI Map. £29.95 - even by my standards a bargain.
I then downloaded Home 2.3 and connected my Diamond as a disk system.
When the Diamond came up it challenged me to select the location of my product and I chose Internal Storage. It then promptly through up an error message.
I did a back and continued. When I went to MAPS etc it didn't find my map. So I clicked on the Update Pocket PC icon and there was my map.
It didn't take long to download and install (161 MB ish) and now I have a working TT7 with the 7.2 map.
I could also update the Pocket PC with free voices and POI's too from the TomTom website (although I have forgotten the steps just now).
The advantage is that I have a working, reliable, sexy, copy of Tomtom 7.
The negative is that I don't seem to be able to use MAP share. This is not a big deal for me (as I never actually use Sat Nav anyway!). It didn't seem to matter once I had bought the map what I set the device to be - PDA or GO 720.
I hope that this is useful as a legitimate way of getting Tomtom 7 onto your Diamonds...and all for £29.95.
I have done this twice - once for me to play and once for the missus to actually use.
Not a bit of Warez anywhere - for 30 quid why bother with Warez?
All the best,
Sam.
I tried the above method and HOME 2.3 just said that the map i purchased was not an available device for these maps so the checkbox was greyed out...any ideas...maybe they caught on?
need a response please!
df
sfere1 said:
I tried the above method and HOME 2.3 just said that the map i purchased was not an available device for these maps so the checkbox was greyed out...any ideas...maybe they caught on?
need a response please!
df
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No it's not a case of have they caught on. TomTom 7 the application on a PDA is not supported on TOMTOM Home 2.3. You need to use 1.5 . This is beacause at the moment only PNA devices are supported on 2.3
The Maps which you purchace to activate with your device to make the application work have not been released yet for PDA so you have to use backwardly compatible maps . 6.75 etc until you can purchase ver 7 maps
As for Warez the licenceing is with the maps only and not the application which is available to download from TomTom . If you was to load hacked Maps then this is WAREZ as the Licence is with the maps. You can only use your brought maps with one device and that is the device you purchaced it for. Hence you get the activation number from your device as it is device specific.
You cannot if you purchased maps already from a different device use them on another device . This is the License law and you need to purchase new maps every time you cahnge device . You can email TomTom support but they will tell you the same thing.
All maps are 30% cheaper at the moment, because they'll release the new version in the beginning of August.
The 30 price reduction is not for Navigator user as I found out last month.
As for only using the Maps for one device (true in a sense) though I managed to activate via TT home my maps twice on my Trintiy (as the Device ID changed once when I flashed an early ROM and activiate the same product code again for my Diamond - which is indicated on the TTcode website as three activations.
I have purchase new 6.75 maps for my Navigator 6 and know these will work on version 7 once on general release.

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