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Help! Mysterious hard reset!

I didn't find anything about this in the forum and I was hoping that someone could help me. Basically I soft resetted my device (used the stylus and hit the deeply embedded button) but when it booted up, it ran the setup that it does when you first turn on the phone or if you do a hard reset. I mistakenly ran through the calibration and finally it booted up with the bloatware and original settings. The weird thing is, all my files and programs are present but all my registry has been reset. Also I cannot open SKTools, the latest program that which I installed. But, this didn't happen right after I installed it. It was after a couple of days.
I did however accidentally selected "restore settings to default" or something like that under "Tune up!" in SKTools. But this weird hard-reset paradox didn't happen right after I did that. It was much later. So it may or may not be the cause of this. Also I cannot seem to open SKTools but I can open everything else that doesn't require any registry... =[ Also, some app files are missing but some things are left like shortcuts? I'm not really sure...
At least my contacts, calendar reminders, and everything else is still saved.
btw I do not have a backup file or anything (yeah I know I gotta) but I guess I was careless ='[...
Someone please help, is there a way I can restore it- maybe an automatic restore image is hiding somewhere???

Out of Memory Message

I've searched the forums several times over and haven't been able to find a solution to my problem.
For some odd reason, whenever attempting to send an MMS (using wm6_threaded for threaded messaging) I get an error message saying that I am out of memory and to close some windows and try again (even when only the messaging window is open). My internal memory has 58.13mb of storage and 66.70mb of program memory free. To be safe I even uninstalled SpB pocket plus and reinstalled it to the storage card, but I am still getting the error message.
Any ideas?

jlambert86 said:
I've searched the forums several times over and haven't been able to find a solution to my problem.
For some odd reason, whenever attempting to send an MMS (using wm6_threaded for threaded messaging) I get an error message saying that I am out of memory and to close some windows and try again (even when only the messaging window is open). My internal memory has 58.13mb of storage and 66.70mb of program memory free. To be safe I even uninstalled SpB pocket plus and reinstalled it to the storage card, but I am still getting the error message.
Any ideas?
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i don't know what you have on your device .. but i can tell you i use my device very heavily and still hardly ever run out of program memory... Did you try clearing pie caches etc.?? sometimes that can cause your device to perform slowly too. If all fails you could use task manager to see which app is taking most cpu memory.
I had spb mobile shell, pocketplus, dairy, and alot more apps running at same time and still didn't run out of memory.

I have cleared the PIE cache using clear temp and my task manager is showing no active apps running. And it only seems to be showing this message when sending/receiving MMS (occassionally with SMS as well).
I'm using the stock At&t ROM w/o bloatware and I'm running HTC home, Spb pocket plus, quickmenu and weather panel on the today screen. I've been considering flashing a new ROM to my TILT, would this remedy the memory issue?

To me it seems more like a bogus error message from the program. Too many programs use "out of memory" as a generic error when nothing is defined for a specific error...
Are your MMS settings correct in the application?

I uninstalled the Wm6_threaded app and the problem has ceased. While we're at it.... anyone have any suggestions for a threaded messaging app or should I just go ahead and upgrade to a wm 6.1 rom?

jlambert86 said:
I uninstalled the Wm6_threaded app and the problem has ceased. While we're at it.... anyone have any suggestions for a threaded messaging app or should I just go ahead and upgrade to a wm 6.1 rom?
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i would say sure ... proceed with upgrade. if you don't like it you can always revert to wm6 just make sure you do reading on rom upgrading and flashing before you proceed.

I've done a lot of research on it, I've just been very hesitant due to worry over bricking my phone. Also, it's not going to go over well with the Mrs. once I start flashing ROMs, she thinks I play with this thing too much as it is.
Got to take the leap at some point I guess... would you recommend attempting to use Sashimi to reinstall apps with my first flash? Or to go ahead and do it the old fashioned way? I don't want to complicate things too much, so I'll take the baby steps if that's the best route.

I've just started using Sashimi, and it is dope. That being said, if it's your first flash it may be worthwhile to do it the old-fashioned way the first time. That way you can know if all programs are compatible etc. with the new ROM, or that something isn't already included on the new ROM that you're trying to install again.

Thx for the tip, I was leaning that direction for my first flash. However I have one more question before I take the plunge, what effect will flashing have on my purchased and registered programs (i.e. Pocket Plus, Mobile Shell)? Will I need to register these under a new serial or with they remain fully functional after a new ROM flash?

Of course you will have to reinstall and re-register them... unless you do the doohickey magic of SPB Backup 2.x and use the "ROM Upgrade" option. I did when moving up from Leo's V5 to V9 and it worked... I think. The phone threw a few tantrums since and I have no way of knowing whether it was restore-related or just plain spite. Plus, today I upgraded again, and NOT used the backup.
Why "under new serial", BTW? Just use the same serials over again and Robert is your close relative
Besides, you can use most applications for like 14 days free of charge, and your grace period begins anew with a new ROM + new installation.

Thx for the tips guys. I'll give it a go this weekend when I've got some time to sit down with my phone on the home cpu.

Whenever i'm in doubt and don't feel like spending days on the forums trying to get a GOOD answer, i just reflash and fix WHATEVER problem there was, 30 minutes of reflashing/reconfiguring is easier than a couple days of headache. When in doubt reflash.

I get the same message on the touch diamond, which is WM6.1. I can't seem to find a CAB so I can send MMS. does anyone have a solution? I am using Telus.

Can't run Messaging app

Hey gang,
HELP! I'm trying to figure out how to fix my Messaging application, it is currently broken. All of my other apps seem to be working.
I am not blaming Throttle Launcher, but it got broken sometime shortly after uninstalling it; I tried to fix my problem by reinstalling it, but no go. So I don't think it was the root cause.
If I click the messaging icon in Programs nothing happens. If I try to run tmail.exe from \Windows, nothing happens. Checking my task manager process listing, I see poutlook.exe running, but with 0KB for Memory and only 1 thread. I do not see anything related to tmail.exe listed in my task manager.
I have soft-reset with no change in behavior.
I would just hard-reset but I want to use PIM backup first, and of course, since it can't talk to pocket outlook, I can't backup my messages.
Any help here? What can I look for? Registry settings? Specific files? I do not have another device here to compare with.

pim back up will back everything even in the absence of some messaging components
i advice to run a back up and perform hard reset then restore
curwiler said:
Hey gang,
HELP! I'm trying to figure out how to fix my Messaging application, it is currently broken. All of my other apps seem to be working.
I am not blaming Throttle Launcher, but it got broken sometime shortly after uninstalling it; I tried to fix my problem by reinstalling it, but no go. So I don't think it was the root cause.
If I click the messaging icon in Programs nothing happens. If I try to run tmail.exe from \Windows, nothing happens. Checking my task manager process listing, I see poutlook.exe running, but with 0KB for Memory and only 1 thread. I do not see anything related to tmail.exe listed in my task manager.
I have soft-reset with no change in behavior.
I would just hard-reset but I want to use PIM backup first, and of course, since it can't talk to pocket outlook, I can't backup my messages.
Any help here? What can I look for? Registry settings? Specific files? I do not have another device here to compare with.
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jahrami said:
pim back up will back everything even in the absence of some messaging components
i advice to run a back up and perform hard reset then restore
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Thanks, but I tried PIM backup 2.8 and it doesn't allow me to backup the messages, which is really the only thing I want besides the call history.
I've used PIM backup many times before, so I can see that it really wants to use the MAPI components to do the messaging backup.
I wonder... does pim.vol hold messages, too?

Solution found
Well, I tried searching before my original posting and didn't find any solution.
A fresh search this morning turned up this answer, which (YAY!) worked for me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=370691

manilla

i recently installed manilla 2D and i cant seem to unistall it. has anyone found a way to uninstall it sucessfuly without a hard reset?
i heard somewhere that a hard reset will remove your custom rom is this true? i dont want to have to re flash my phone.
thanks in advance for any help.

RubberDucky451 said:
i recently installed manilla 2D and i cant seem to unistall it. has anyone found a way to uninstall it sucessfuly without a hard reset?
i heard somewhere that a hard reset will remove your custom rom is this true? i dont want to have to re flash my phone.
thanks in advance for any help.
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I think a hard reset is the recommended way to remove it. And no, a hard reset will not remove your rom, it will put it back like you just finished flashing.

NO U DONT HAVE TO HARD RESET
why go thru all that when there's an easier way.
what u need to do is:
1. dl and install sktools
2. make sure its not active on ur today screen
3. use sktools to uninstall it and soft reset once its done.
tadaaaa

Trial and error method!
Hi all,
My trial and error method which worked is to uninstall all the apps which came with Manilla2D, e.g. new comm manager, audio manager, etc. Ignore any messages that say "not completely uninstalled". Then, uninstall Manilla2D in the normal way, you will of course get the usual "not completely uninstalled" message. Select "No" to removing from list of installed applications. Then re-install the same Manilla2D cab file that you installed before. You will see the message: "The previous version will be uninstalled..." select to continue, then you will get a second message saying: "The previous version was not completely uninstalled...do you want to continue..." at which you should select to do so. The "install" will take about 3 or 4 minutes then if you are not prompted to restart your device at the end of the installation, you should do so anyway. When your device restarts it should be M2D free. N.B. one thing that seemed to help this process was preventing the device going to stand by during the whole process, by plugging it in or changing the power auto-off settings.
This method is not proven so it may not work on your device.
N.B. I am using ROMeOS 4.6.0. If you do need to hard reset your device I recommend this ROM anyway.
Best wishes,
andrew-in-woking

JstarLuvsTina said:
NO U DONT HAVE TO HARD RESET
why go thru all that when there's an easier way.
what u need to do is:
1. dl and install sktools
2. make sure its not active on ur today screen
3. use sktools to uninstall it and soft reset once its done.
tadaaaa
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Yes, after trying various things to remove Manila (including trying to install it again as suggested in another post) the only thing that worked for me was sktools BUT - even after SKTOOLs removed it, it left behind various side effects which took me two more days to get rid of
(i) I use Nadavi_Task_Manager_2_0_31261 . Its onscreen quick menu was spoiled. I had to remove and re-install it to get it back to normal
(ii) HTC Home - many things were screwed up, all teh phone numbers i had set up on the Favorite People tab were gone and I could not add any number. The weather tab had stopped working altogether. I had to install a patched version of HTC Home I found on these forums (not because I knew what I was doing but because I did not know what else to do!!)
So after all that I am wondering whether it would have been just easier to do a hard reset and restore from a back up (which as it happens I had taken just minutes before installing Manilla)

smjoshi said:
Yes, after trying various things to remove Manila (including trying to install it again as suggested in another post) the only thing that worked for me was sktools BUT - even after SKTOOLs removed it, it left behind various side effects which took me two more days to get rid of
(i) I use Nadavi_Task_Manager_2_0_31261 . Its onscreen quick menu was spoiled. I had to remove and re-install it to get it back to normal
(ii) HTC Home - many things were screwed up, all teh phone numbers i had set up on the Favorite People tab were gone and I could not add any number. The weather tab had stopped working altogether. I had to install a patched version of HTC Home I found on these forums (not because I knew what I was doing but because I did not know what else to do!!)
So after all that I am wondering whether it would have been just easier to do a hard reset and restore from a back up (which as it happens I had taken just minutes before installing Manilla)
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wow the first i heard of anything like this before..thats just crazy
ive de-installed and re-installed plenty of times prior to having manila on a rom with no issues, even during the opening hours of the coding release we had.
did u run the sktools clean up after de-installing?
registry cleaner as well?
and i presume u soft resetted as well? as the instructions say to do.
also u have to understand m2D isnt just a theme..its an app that takes over whatever else u had on ur today screen, just like any other app and also its not perfected we're still trying to get there, we're damn near close..but not at 100% just yet.

Whenever I get the "not completely uninstalled, would you like to remove from list of programs?" message, I just choose "No", soft reset, then uninstall the program once again. Works every time.

Hi guys,
I tried to uninstall Manilla2D too, and I used Sktools. But when i came to "Installed Programs" i couldnt see Manilla there. There were only 2 programs there: Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1, and SK Software SKtools.
Please tell me how to uninstall it. Im really sick ot it now...
Thanks

tf3d timeout and does not restart

Hi, I am running both spb mobile and tf3d on the rc elite system. I recently installed the cleanram and used the level 2 quality purge. After using this, my TF3d stopped working and all i see is the HTC logo when i try to switch back to tf3d. The tf3d tab is selected in the today menu.
the tf3d will start working after a soft reset but by the end of the day, it will timeout and tf3d will not startup until the next soft reset. I also tried to restore my settings to where they were before with the last backup and it still happens. I looked all over the forum and and tried to search it within the forum with no luck. Please help.
Thanks

I doubt cleanram had anything to do with it, since you can get it going again with a reboot. I've had this happen when I restored pim.vol without shutting down tf3d. I have a feeling that you did a bad restore at some point. You didn't do a full restore with a backup from an old rom after the flash, did you? That's a ggod way to mess up tf3d. Or, did you install a tf3d theme without shutting it down? Even a simple thing like adding a clock can screw up manila if you don't do it right.

Farmer Ted said:
I doubt cleanram had anything to do with it, since you can get it going again with a reboot. I've had this happen when I restored pim.vol without shutting down tf3d. I have a feeling that you did a bad restore at some point. You didn't do a full restore with a backup from an old rom after the flash, did you? That's a ggod way to mess up tf3d. Or, did you install a tf3d theme without shutting it down? Even a simple thing like adding a clock can screw up manila if you don't do it right.
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the tf3d timingout and not restarting happened right after I had used the cleanram. I was thinking maybe the cleanram had deleted something i needed and my backup didn't restore it back. I flashed the elite rom over 6 months with no problems and have not done a restore since after my tf3d started screwing up. And i did not do a restore when i flashed my rom on my phone. I also did not install a tf3d theme. I have even gone to the tf3d config and selected the reset/restore settings thing and it still doesn't fix things. I do not know what else to do besides do a hard reset without restoring anything, but would be my last option and do not wanna lose all my stuff.
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That is seriously weird. I'm not sure how cleanram could've deleted any files, though. All the manila files should be in rom, unless it was installed with a cab (either by you or during the bootup customization-that seems unlikely, though).
It may just be time for a hard reset, though. Six months is a long time to go without one. You can always do a full backup, hard reset, then do a full restore. The worst case scenario is that you'll be right back where you started. But, I would say there's a decent chance that you'll be ok. When you do a full restore, files and reg settings are added, but things are not normally deleted. So if you did manage to delete something important (like a registry key), then it should come back from the dead.

ok...I was thinking a full restore again would be best..lol. So should I do a hard reset and then a full restore or can I just do a full restore? I had just done a full restore and not a hard reset. I never thought doing both might make a difference compare to just doing one.

Yeah, definitely do the hard reset first. Most backup programs will tell you only to do the restore right after a hard reset. It can cause major issues if you do the restore without doing the hard reset.