tf3d timeout and does not restart - Touch Pro, Fuze Themes and Apps

Hi, I am running both spb mobile and tf3d on the rc elite system. I recently installed the cleanram and used the level 2 quality purge. After using this, my TF3d stopped working and all i see is the HTC logo when i try to switch back to tf3d. The tf3d tab is selected in the today menu.
the tf3d will start working after a soft reset but by the end of the day, it will timeout and tf3d will not startup until the next soft reset. I also tried to restore my settings to where they were before with the last backup and it still happens. I looked all over the forum and and tried to search it within the forum with no luck. Please help.
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I doubt cleanram had anything to do with it, since you can get it going again with a reboot. I've had this happen when I restored pim.vol without shutting down tf3d. I have a feeling that you did a bad restore at some point. You didn't do a full restore with a backup from an old rom after the flash, did you? That's a ggod way to mess up tf3d. Or, did you install a tf3d theme without shutting it down? Even a simple thing like adding a clock can screw up manila if you don't do it right.

Farmer Ted said:
I doubt cleanram had anything to do with it, since you can get it going again with a reboot. I've had this happen when I restored pim.vol without shutting down tf3d. I have a feeling that you did a bad restore at some point. You didn't do a full restore with a backup from an old rom after the flash, did you? That's a ggod way to mess up tf3d. Or, did you install a tf3d theme without shutting it down? Even a simple thing like adding a clock can screw up manila if you don't do it right.
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the tf3d timingout and not restarting happened right after I had used the cleanram. I was thinking maybe the cleanram had deleted something i needed and my backup didn't restore it back. I flashed the elite rom over 6 months with no problems and have not done a restore since after my tf3d started screwing up. And i did not do a restore when i flashed my rom on my phone. I also did not install a tf3d theme. I have even gone to the tf3d config and selected the reset/restore settings thing and it still doesn't fix things. I do not know what else to do besides do a hard reset without restoring anything, but would be my last option and do not wanna lose all my stuff.
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That is seriously weird. I'm not sure how cleanram could've deleted any files, though. All the manila files should be in rom, unless it was installed with a cab (either by you or during the bootup customization-that seems unlikely, though).
It may just be time for a hard reset, though. Six months is a long time to go without one. You can always do a full backup, hard reset, then do a full restore. The worst case scenario is that you'll be right back where you started. But, I would say there's a decent chance that you'll be ok. When you do a full restore, files and reg settings are added, but things are not normally deleted. So if you did manage to delete something important (like a registry key), then it should come back from the dead.

ok...I was thinking a full restore again would be best..lol. So should I do a hard reset and then a full restore or can I just do a full restore? I had just done a full restore and not a hard reset. I never thought doing both might make a difference compare to just doing one.

Yeah, definitely do the hard reset first. Most backup programs will tell you only to do the restore right after a hard reset. It can cause major issues if you do the restore without doing the hard reset.

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What files to backup before a hard reset for Personal settin

What files do I need to backup before I hard reset so I dont have the 2-3 hours to set everything backup.
I like playing withit and trying new things but anm getting tired of trying to
put everything back the way I like it, some lesser used things take a wek or so before i stumble across them and fix them.
I am wanting to keep things like
Email settings and email I had saved
Owner Info
Device ID
Speed dial
Assigned ring tones
Font size
back light
IP Addresses for Wifi
Directory structure (moved a few lightly used itemd to a misc folder to clear up the programs directory)
Start menu items
Today screen
etc. (all I can think of now)
Any help will be greatly appreciated
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This is something I wanna learn too :idea:
Just use a backup soft like Sprite Backup.
BUT THAT WILL RESTORE EVERYTHING LIKE i HAVE IT NOW.
i LIKE TO CHANGE THINGS BUT KEEP MY SETTINGS AND PREFERENCES THE SAME.
Sprite and Sbp Backup both allow you to only restore the PIM data etc.
...create fullbackup to save everything now with i.e. SQB Backup. Perform hard reset and prepare it like you want. Create backup.
Do you thingies and create incremental backups and save with i.e. name of changes. You can then always go back to earlier stages. I use it all the time.
If you need something what's not installed in your new backup then it's gonna cost ya 10 min. to get back in earlier stage...
Ok I did not know they did backups like that I will try it.
Hmm... very interested in this myself as I think I want to get rid of all O2 software (as much as I like O2 I believe their software is unecassary and slows the system down is this correct?), without losing all my personalised settings.
Just two things though...
1) what are/is PIM data/settings?
2) I have read on either this forum or AV forums that I need to input certain settings manually when doing a corporate install ( to completely get rid of O2 software), it also listed what these settings were, but I can't seem to find the post now?
thanks
Matt :?
From what I can find Sprite and SPB define PIM data as tasks and appointments. I have that in outlook with my first sync.
How do I restore all my personal settings and information that is not involved with a sync ?
I to have reached that conclusion...
ah well here's goes nothing with a hard reset! I'll just have to spend hours trying to get everything back to what it was settings wise!
Here goes... I'll let you know how I get on........
Great!
I followed the instructions in the manual, they didn't work, so I followed some instructions from AV Forums, they didn't work either!! My XDA won't die! Good in some respects but how can I hard reset????
Matt :shock: :?:
Well I tried SPB and it did not get what I wanted.
Mostly I got what I would get after a sync.
Any more ideas ?
To clarify I an tired of all the fiddeling I have to do after a hard reset to get all my settings and info back.
I do not mind loading programs but an tired of setting up email accounts
Fonts, Rings, Speed dials etc.
Hooray... hard reset completed, now in corporate mode. Took me about an hour to get everything back to normal, but then I suppose I've only had the machine just over a week so not that much to reset really.
Matt

Backup Help...

Hi, i have been searching for a How-to thread on How To backup the kaiser, tilt or any pda. and had no luck.
But my problem is this.
I already setup my tilt to the way i pretty much want it with tweaks, programs and settings, but i would like to take out all that att crap aka bloatware.
Is there a way to take out all that att crap and save all my settings, programs, tweaks etc. i already set and installed or would i have to start all over again?
and if i can do that how do i go about backing up my phone and re installing the restoring it without the att crap?
Thanks in advance.
backup
the only way to get rid of the att crap is to to a hard reset. most of the programs are built into the rom and can not be uninstalled. \
in order to aviod the reinstalling of the apps after a hard reset you need to reset the device right before all the customizations start.
in order to back up your comtacts emails txt msgs and such u need to search for a program called PIM backup. it will back up all of your info.
if i am wrong someone will correct me.
dipp02 said:
Hi, i have been searching for a How-to thread on How To backup the kaiser, tilt or any pda. and had no luck.
But my problem is this.
I already setup my tilt to the way i pretty much want it with tweaks, programs and settings, but i would like to take out all that att crap aka bloatware.
Is there a way to take out all that att crap and save all my settings, programs, tweaks etc. i already set and installed or would i have to start all over again?
and if i can do that how do i go about backing up my phone and re installing the restoring it without the att crap?
Thanks in advance.
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I am a fan of SPB Backup. but there is also Sprite Backup. Both are good and both backup all your installations settings etc. They provide full backups that can have you back up and running in ten to fifteen minutes after a hard reset or a major fault.Unfortunately it is probably a little late to remove bloatware from ATT. Most if not all these add on applications and trials etc were built into the ROM from ATT. You cannot now remove them from the ROM. You might have been able to stop the installation of this bloatware when you first got the device. However, if you were to hard reset now and stop it runnng the customisation stuff, you could not then run your backup, else it will all be put back on again. One or two things may appear in the remove programs section.Still now you have all this experience, you can start again, maybe even try a 'clean' ROM although that brings a different set of issues. It all depends how it is working and if you are happy with it.Mike
The included Sprite back up software is pretty good. It does back up (and restore) all data including programs, tweaks (registry) and most settings. I do notice that it does not back up GPRS proxy settings, but that's easy enough to reconfigure. Can't help with the bloatware.
i guess its not a big pain to redo all my settings... its not too much work to do...
What ROM performs the fastest? i notice this one that came on the tilt is a little slow when txt messaging and when trying to use it in general.
Can someone point me into the right direction?
I downloaded the kaiser-HardSPL.exe program. to unlock it but havent tried yet i wanna make sure im heading into the right direction.
which ROM is the best for ATT? i would like to speed the phone up a little bit.
But if i do this i shouldnt even try and backup my settings because u cant restore different rom backups to other ROM versions .. am i correct?
Thanks for all the help so far!
mikechannon said:
I am a fan of SPB Backup. but there is also Sprite Backup. Both are good and both backup all your installations settings etc. They provide full backups that can have you back up and running in ten to fifteen minutes after a hard reset or a major fault.Unfortunately it is probably a little late to remove bloatware from ATT. Most if not all these add on applications and trials etc were built into the ROM from ATT. You cannot now remove them from the ROM. You might have been able to stop the installation of this bloatware when you first got the device. However, if you were to hard reset now and stop it runnng the customisation stuff, you could not then run your backup, else it will all be put back on again. One or two things may appear in the remove programs section.Still now you have all this experience, you can start again, maybe even try a 'clean' ROM although that brings a different set of issues. It all depends how it is working and if you are happy with it.Mike
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which rom do u suggest i use for att? thanks bud

Help! Mysterious hard reset!

I didn't find anything about this in the forum and I was hoping that someone could help me. Basically I soft resetted my device (used the stylus and hit the deeply embedded button) but when it booted up, it ran the setup that it does when you first turn on the phone or if you do a hard reset. I mistakenly ran through the calibration and finally it booted up with the bloatware and original settings. The weird thing is, all my files and programs are present but all my registry has been reset. Also I cannot open SKTools, the latest program that which I installed. But, this didn't happen right after I installed it. It was after a couple of days.
I did however accidentally selected "restore settings to default" or something like that under "Tune up!" in SKTools. But this weird hard-reset paradox didn't happen right after I did that. It was much later. So it may or may not be the cause of this. Also I cannot seem to open SKTools but I can open everything else that doesn't require any registry... =[ Also, some app files are missing but some things are left like shortcuts? I'm not really sure...
At least my contacts, calendar reminders, and everything else is still saved.
btw I do not have a backup file or anything (yeah I know I gotta) but I guess I was careless ='[...
Someone please help, is there a way I can restore it- maybe an automatic restore image is hiding somewhere???

manilla

i recently installed manilla 2D and i cant seem to unistall it. has anyone found a way to uninstall it sucessfuly without a hard reset?
i heard somewhere that a hard reset will remove your custom rom is this true? i dont want to have to re flash my phone.
thanks in advance for any help.
RubberDucky451 said:
i recently installed manilla 2D and i cant seem to unistall it. has anyone found a way to uninstall it sucessfuly without a hard reset?
i heard somewhere that a hard reset will remove your custom rom is this true? i dont want to have to re flash my phone.
thanks in advance for any help.
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I think a hard reset is the recommended way to remove it. And no, a hard reset will not remove your rom, it will put it back like you just finished flashing.
NO U DONT HAVE TO HARD RESET
why go thru all that when there's an easier way.
what u need to do is:
1. dl and install sktools
2. make sure its not active on ur today screen
3. use sktools to uninstall it and soft reset once its done.
tadaaaa
Trial and error method!
Hi all,
My trial and error method which worked is to uninstall all the apps which came with Manilla2D, e.g. new comm manager, audio manager, etc. Ignore any messages that say "not completely uninstalled". Then, uninstall Manilla2D in the normal way, you will of course get the usual "not completely uninstalled" message. Select "No" to removing from list of installed applications. Then re-install the same Manilla2D cab file that you installed before. You will see the message: "The previous version will be uninstalled..." select to continue, then you will get a second message saying: "The previous version was not completely uninstalled...do you want to continue..." at which you should select to do so. The "install" will take about 3 or 4 minutes then if you are not prompted to restart your device at the end of the installation, you should do so anyway. When your device restarts it should be M2D free. N.B. one thing that seemed to help this process was preventing the device going to stand by during the whole process, by plugging it in or changing the power auto-off settings.
This method is not proven so it may not work on your device.
N.B. I am using ROMeOS 4.6.0. If you do need to hard reset your device I recommend this ROM anyway.
Best wishes,
andrew-in-woking
JstarLuvsTina said:
NO U DONT HAVE TO HARD RESET
why go thru all that when there's an easier way.
what u need to do is:
1. dl and install sktools
2. make sure its not active on ur today screen
3. use sktools to uninstall it and soft reset once its done.
tadaaaa
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Yes, after trying various things to remove Manila (including trying to install it again as suggested in another post) the only thing that worked for me was sktools BUT - even after SKTOOLs removed it, it left behind various side effects which took me two more days to get rid of
(i) I use Nadavi_Task_Manager_2_0_31261 . Its onscreen quick menu was spoiled. I had to remove and re-install it to get it back to normal
(ii) HTC Home - many things were screwed up, all teh phone numbers i had set up on the Favorite People tab were gone and I could not add any number. The weather tab had stopped working altogether. I had to install a patched version of HTC Home I found on these forums (not because I knew what I was doing but because I did not know what else to do!!)
So after all that I am wondering whether it would have been just easier to do a hard reset and restore from a back up (which as it happens I had taken just minutes before installing Manilla)
smjoshi said:
Yes, after trying various things to remove Manila (including trying to install it again as suggested in another post) the only thing that worked for me was sktools BUT - even after SKTOOLs removed it, it left behind various side effects which took me two more days to get rid of
(i) I use Nadavi_Task_Manager_2_0_31261 . Its onscreen quick menu was spoiled. I had to remove and re-install it to get it back to normal
(ii) HTC Home - many things were screwed up, all teh phone numbers i had set up on the Favorite People tab were gone and I could not add any number. The weather tab had stopped working altogether. I had to install a patched version of HTC Home I found on these forums (not because I knew what I was doing but because I did not know what else to do!!)
So after all that I am wondering whether it would have been just easier to do a hard reset and restore from a back up (which as it happens I had taken just minutes before installing Manilla)
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wow the first i heard of anything like this before..thats just crazy
ive de-installed and re-installed plenty of times prior to having manila on a rom with no issues, even during the opening hours of the coding release we had.
did u run the sktools clean up after de-installing?
registry cleaner as well?
and i presume u soft resetted as well? as the instructions say to do.
also u have to understand m2D isnt just a theme..its an app that takes over whatever else u had on ur today screen, just like any other app and also its not perfected we're still trying to get there, we're damn near close..but not at 100% just yet.
Whenever I get the "not completely uninstalled, would you like to remove from list of programs?" message, I just choose "No", soft reset, then uninstall the program once again. Works every time.
Hi guys,
I tried to uninstall Manilla2D too, and I used Sktools. But when i came to "Installed Programs" i couldnt see Manilla there. There were only 2 programs there: Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1, and SK Software SKtools.
Please tell me how to uninstall it. Im really sick ot it now...
Thanks

Tmail.exe

I have not received any texts or emails in the past couple of days. I tried to go into my mail program...tmail.exe and messaging.ink, but I have yet to get back into it.
Do you folks have any other ideas?
Thank you,
What to do when you cannot get tmail.exe or get into your sms and emails
Please help me. I have done about everything that I can without flashing.
I am not even sure that would help, and I am very leary about doing that in case I dont do it correctly.
this happened to me about 4 months ago. Just back up your contacts and whatever messages (or ALL) using PIM Backup and do a hard reset. This was the ONLY thing that worked for me. Especially was scary because I was on vacation and nowhere near a PC. Haven't had a problem since.
Did you install anything that edited the registry in order to put your mail on your SD card? Because this happened to me a while ago, after I uninstalled that program, and did a soft reset, Pocket Outlook worked just fine again.
Dave
orflin said:
this happened to me about 4 months ago. Just back up your contacts and whatever messages (or ALL) using PIM Backup and do a hard reset. This was the ONLY thing that worked for me. Especially was scary because I was on vacation and nowhere near a PC. Haven't had a problem since.
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If I do a Hard Reset will that wipe out the current ROM that I am using and set it back to the original HTC ROM?
I have Sprite backup, if I do a restore will that just make the problem resume again?
I think you want to think about "dave the tytnII guy" reply & review any changes you might of recently made to your device.
If you have made no changes or can not resolve the issue by uninstalling a newly added software then hard setting could be your option.
Your current rom will remain after hard reset & so could your problem if you do a full backup & restore.
Mister B said:
I think you want to think about "dave the tytnII guy" reply & review any changes you might of recently made to your device.
If you have made no changes or can not resolve the issue by uninstalling a newly added software then hard setting could be your option.
Your current rom will remain after hard reset & so could your problem if you do a full backup & restore.
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I do remember rearranging some folders, thinking that it would work better, but I cannot remember what folders I moved or deleted.
The only think that I have downloaded has been ringtones, voice commander software....
Probably linked to stuff you deleted or perhaps voice commander software.
If you can't resolve it you'll have to hard reset.
Hard reseting is not a big problem unless you have a lot of software & customizations installed.
Backup your PIM data hard reset & in future make backups before deleting folders or installing software that enters a lot of registry keys.
Good luck...
Mister B said:
Probably linked to stuff you deleted or perhaps voice commander software.
If you can't resolve it you'll have to hard reset.
Hard reseting is not a big problem unless you have a lot of software & customizations installed.
Backup your PIM data hard reset & in future make backups before deleting folders or installing software that enters a lot of registry keys.
Good luck...
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Thank you very much for your assistance. What software would you recommend to back up my PIM data? Would Sprite work?
Sprite or SPB backup or for just PIM data use PIMBackup.
I have had problems with Sprite on my tytnII, after making backups my tytn has lost WIFI connection settings & other account settings have been troublesome.
I would backup with both Sprite & SPB & see what you like the most.
Hi,
This just happened to me and I found this worked. Goto your storage card in file explorer and look for the folder inbox.mst123456 (the numbers will be different) and delete it. It worked for me. I hope it works for you.
David
Mister B said:
Sprite or SPB backup or for just PIM data use PIMBackup.
I have had problems with Sprite on my tytnII, after making backups my tytn has lost WIFI connection settings & other account settings have been troublesome.
I would backup with both Sprite & SPB & see what you like the most.
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I did a Hard Reset and restored my information using PIM backup. I was able to get my email and sms back to work. Thank you very much for the assistance one and all!
It Worked!
Derman said:
Hi,
This just happened to me and I found this worked. Goto your storage card in file explorer and look for the folder inbox.mst123456 (the numbers will be different) and delete it. It worked for me. I hope it works for you.
David
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TYTYTYTY!!!
Deleted file and it returned all my mms and emails!
Thank you was not looking forward to doing a hard reset

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