Hi, i have been searching for a How-to thread on How To backup the kaiser, tilt or any pda. and had no luck.
But my problem is this.
I already setup my tilt to the way i pretty much want it with tweaks, programs and settings, but i would like to take out all that att crap aka bloatware.
Is there a way to take out all that att crap and save all my settings, programs, tweaks etc. i already set and installed or would i have to start all over again?
and if i can do that how do i go about backing up my phone and re installing the restoring it without the att crap?
Thanks in advance.
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the only way to get rid of the att crap is to to a hard reset. most of the programs are built into the rom and can not be uninstalled. \
in order to aviod the reinstalling of the apps after a hard reset you need to reset the device right before all the customizations start.
in order to back up your comtacts emails txt msgs and such u need to search for a program called PIM backup. it will back up all of your info.
if i am wrong someone will correct me.
dipp02 said:
Hi, i have been searching for a How-to thread on How To backup the kaiser, tilt or any pda. and had no luck.
But my problem is this.
I already setup my tilt to the way i pretty much want it with tweaks, programs and settings, but i would like to take out all that att crap aka bloatware.
Is there a way to take out all that att crap and save all my settings, programs, tweaks etc. i already set and installed or would i have to start all over again?
and if i can do that how do i go about backing up my phone and re installing the restoring it without the att crap?
Thanks in advance.
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I am a fan of SPB Backup. but there is also Sprite Backup. Both are good and both backup all your installations settings etc. They provide full backups that can have you back up and running in ten to fifteen minutes after a hard reset or a major fault.Unfortunately it is probably a little late to remove bloatware from ATT. Most if not all these add on applications and trials etc were built into the ROM from ATT. You cannot now remove them from the ROM. You might have been able to stop the installation of this bloatware when you first got the device. However, if you were to hard reset now and stop it runnng the customisation stuff, you could not then run your backup, else it will all be put back on again. One or two things may appear in the remove programs section.Still now you have all this experience, you can start again, maybe even try a 'clean' ROM although that brings a different set of issues. It all depends how it is working and if you are happy with it.Mike
The included Sprite back up software is pretty good. It does back up (and restore) all data including programs, tweaks (registry) and most settings. I do notice that it does not back up GPRS proxy settings, but that's easy enough to reconfigure. Can't help with the bloatware.
i guess its not a big pain to redo all my settings... its not too much work to do...
What ROM performs the fastest? i notice this one that came on the tilt is a little slow when txt messaging and when trying to use it in general.
Can someone point me into the right direction?
I downloaded the kaiser-HardSPL.exe program. to unlock it but havent tried yet i wanna make sure im heading into the right direction.
which ROM is the best for ATT? i would like to speed the phone up a little bit.
But if i do this i shouldnt even try and backup my settings because u cant restore different rom backups to other ROM versions .. am i correct?
Thanks for all the help so far!
mikechannon said:
I am a fan of SPB Backup. but there is also Sprite Backup. Both are good and both backup all your installations settings etc. They provide full backups that can have you back up and running in ten to fifteen minutes after a hard reset or a major fault.Unfortunately it is probably a little late to remove bloatware from ATT. Most if not all these add on applications and trials etc were built into the ROM from ATT. You cannot now remove them from the ROM. You might have been able to stop the installation of this bloatware when you first got the device. However, if you were to hard reset now and stop it runnng the customisation stuff, you could not then run your backup, else it will all be put back on again. One or two things may appear in the remove programs section.Still now you have all this experience, you can start again, maybe even try a 'clean' ROM although that brings a different set of issues. It all depends how it is working and if you are happy with it.Mike
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which rom do u suggest i use for att? thanks bud
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What files do I need to backup before I hard reset so I dont have the 2-3 hours to set everything backup.
I like playing withit and trying new things but anm getting tired of trying to
put everything back the way I like it, some lesser used things take a wek or so before i stumble across them and fix them.
I am wanting to keep things like
Email settings and email I had saved
Owner Info
Device ID
Speed dial
Assigned ring tones
Font size
back light
IP Addresses for Wifi
Directory structure (moved a few lightly used itemd to a misc folder to clear up the programs directory)
Start menu items
Today screen
etc. (all I can think of now)
Any help will be greatly appreciated
Thanks
This is something I wanna learn too :idea:
Just use a backup soft like Sprite Backup.
BUT THAT WILL RESTORE EVERYTHING LIKE i HAVE IT NOW.
i LIKE TO CHANGE THINGS BUT KEEP MY SETTINGS AND PREFERENCES THE SAME.
Sprite and Sbp Backup both allow you to only restore the PIM data etc.
...create fullbackup to save everything now with i.e. SQB Backup. Perform hard reset and prepare it like you want. Create backup.
Do you thingies and create incremental backups and save with i.e. name of changes. You can then always go back to earlier stages. I use it all the time.
If you need something what's not installed in your new backup then it's gonna cost ya 10 min. to get back in earlier stage...
Ok I did not know they did backups like that I will try it.
Hmm... very interested in this myself as I think I want to get rid of all O2 software (as much as I like O2 I believe their software is unecassary and slows the system down is this correct?), without losing all my personalised settings.
Just two things though...
1) what are/is PIM data/settings?
2) I have read on either this forum or AV forums that I need to input certain settings manually when doing a corporate install ( to completely get rid of O2 software), it also listed what these settings were, but I can't seem to find the post now?
thanks
Matt :?
From what I can find Sprite and SPB define PIM data as tasks and appointments. I have that in outlook with my first sync.
How do I restore all my personal settings and information that is not involved with a sync ?
I to have reached that conclusion...
ah well here's goes nothing with a hard reset! I'll just have to spend hours trying to get everything back to what it was settings wise!
Here goes... I'll let you know how I get on........
Great!
I followed the instructions in the manual, they didn't work, so I followed some instructions from AV Forums, they didn't work either!! My XDA won't die! Good in some respects but how can I hard reset????
Matt :shock: :?:
Well I tried SPB and it did not get what I wanted.
Mostly I got what I would get after a sync.
Any more ideas ?
To clarify I an tired of all the fiddeling I have to do after a hard reset to get all my settings and info back.
I do not mind loading programs but an tired of setting up email accounts
Fonts, Rings, Speed dials etc.
Hooray... hard reset completed, now in corporate mode. Took me about an hour to get everything back to normal, but then I suppose I've only had the machine just over a week so not that much to reset really.
Matt
I am quite new to ROM flashing, but have been successful and am now able to do it with no problems.
My question is simple:-
Could some someone please define the word TILT in the following sentance.
"Tilt owners, install additional cabs"
I though that all Keizer's were Tilt devices, or am I wrong? How do I know if I am a Tilt owner?
Sorry if it's a stupid question.
Ed
EddyStone said:
I am quite new to ROM flashing, but have been successful and am now able to do it with no problems.
My question is simple:-
Could some someone please define the word TILT in the following sentance.
"Tilt owners, install additional cabs"
I though that all Keizer's were Tilt devices, or am I wrong? How do I know if I am a Tilt owner?
Sorry if it's a stupid question.
Ed
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tilt is a name for at&t branded kaiser
Ahh!!
Many thanks for that.
It's one of those small iritating questions than has been bubbling for a while.
Ed
EddyStone said:
I am quite new to ROM flashing, but have been successful and am now able to do it with no problems.
My question is simple:-
Could some someone please define the word TILT in the following sentance.
"Tilt owners, install additional cabs"
I though that all Keizer's were Tilt devices, or am I wrong? How do I know if I am a Tilt owner?
Sorry if it's a stupid question.
Ed
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Yup its a stupid question alright. Naw just playing.
The Tilt is A "Kaiser" Per se but a Kaiser is not a Tilt. you know like a rectangle is a square but a square is not a rectangle.
Functionally they are the same however, the keyboard appears different, hence the need for the Keyboard Fix cab and there is no Video call Camera in the front. Oh and there is the unbearable need to have AT&T as a carrier.
And it would appear... slower roms too...
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And it would appear... slower roms too...
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I really don't have a problem, once the bloatware is removed that is. At least its very easy to remove AT&T bloatware completely on a Tilt. No need to flash to get rid of it.
-Jay
Jay2TheRescue said:
I really don't have a problem, once the bloatware is removed that is. At least its very easy to remove AT&T bloatware completely on a Tilt. No need to flash to get rid of it.
-Jay
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Hey how do you remove the bloatware on the tilt? and if you do will it remove all you phone settings? i mean like the phone # programation and all that stuff? will i have to take it to att to get it program again?... sorry if this is a stupid question also
IcOpRo said:
Hey how do you remove the bloatware on the tilt? and if you do will it remove all you phone settings? i mean like the phone # programation and all that stuff? will i have to take it to att to get it program again?... sorry if this is a stupid question also
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Its really easy to remove the bloatware on an AT&T Tilt. Takes about 5 minutes total. The AT&T internet settings and such will stay. It will remain fully functional. If you want stuff back like Cingular Video or Media mall you will have to reinstall those separately.
First of all you must realize when you are done the phone will be just like it came out of the box, minus the bloatware. You will have to reinstall any applications installed to the device, and redo all previously applied hacks. Backup anything you don't want lost that is in storage memory, and move it to your storage card. Anything on your storage card is safe. Once everything you don't want lost is safely backed up or moved you can proceed.
Click Start --> Settings --> System tab --> Clear Storage
Enter "1234" and click YES.
Device will reboot.
When it comes back up have your stylus ready. It will ask you to align the screen (Tap the crosshairs), set the time zone & clock, etc.
When done you will see a green screen that says something like "You have now setup your device, tap the screen to begin using Windows Mobile..."
As soon as you tap and the today screen opens you will see a text box popup saying "Software install will begin in 3 seconds" Quickly soft reset the phone before this install begins. Do this by inserting the Stylus in the reset hole in the bottom of the device and press before the install begins.
Device will reboot.
When it comes back up you will be free of AT&T Bloatware.
You may now redo all of your hacks and reinstall your software. You will notice a lot more available storage memory and RAM available.
Enjoy!
-Jay
Hey Jay thanks for the advice on getting rid of att's softwares. I notice on your icon that you have TOM TOM running as your GPS program. I have TOMTOM also however my is cracked and the version is 6.010. When I first installed it, searching for satellite was fairly fast. Now, it takes forever. Any idea on what happened? Thanks
lamson said:
Hey Jay thanks for the advice on getting rid of att's softwares. I notice on your icon that you have TOM TOM running as your GPS program. I have TOMTOM also however my is cracked and the version is 6.010. When I first installed it, searching for satellite was fairly fast. Now, it takes forever. Any idea on what happened? Thanks
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Sounds like your quick GPS files need updating. I have mine set to auto download when necessary. Go to Start--> Programs --> Quick GPS. The icon looks like a satellite dish. Click Download. When your download is complete click Menu--> Options. Make sure "Autodownload when data expires" is checked.
-Jay
Is it possible when I open storage card
it opens directly to Bottom of the List
Does anyone know How to ?
Jay2TheRescue said:
Its really easy to remove the bloatware on an AT&T Tilt. Takes about 5 minutes total. The AT&T internet settings and such will stay. It will remain fully functional. If you want stuff back like Cingular Video or Media mall you will have to reinstall those separately.
First of all you must realize when you are done the phone will be just like it came out of the box, minus the bloatware. You will have to reinstall any applications installed to the device, and redo all previously applied hacks. Backup anything you don't want lost that is in storage memory, and move it to your storage card. Anything on your storage card is safe. Once everything you don't want lost is safely backed up or moved you can proceed.
Click Start --> Settings --> System tab --> Clear Storage
Enter "1234" and click YES.
Device will reboot.
When it comes back up have your stylus ready. It will ask you to align the screen (Tap the crosshairs), set the time zone & clock, etc.
When done you will see a green screen that says something like "You have now setup your device, tap the screen to begin using Windows Mobile..."
As soon as you tap and the today screen opens you will see a text box popup saying "Software install will begin in 3 seconds" Quickly soft reset the phone before this install begins. Do this by inserting the Stylus in the reset hole in the bottom of the device and press before the install begins.
Device will reboot.
When it comes back up you will be free of AT&T Bloatware.
You may now redo all of your hacks and reinstall your software. You will notice a lot more available storage memory and RAM available.
Enjoy!
-Jay
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Jay,
Thanks for that. Made it really easy to get rid of it. I've been lurking for a couple days and your post made me register. Hoping to learn alot since I just got my Tilt two days ago and want to mod it.
brrymnvette said:
Jay,
Thanks for that. Made it really easy to get rid of it. I've been lurking for a couple days and your post made me register. Hoping to learn alot since I just got my Tilt two days ago and want to mod it.
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What Two Days And you haven't Flashed yet? That's too long! I flashed mine First day!
Jay2TheRescue said:
Its really easy to remove the bloatware on an AT&T Tilt. Takes about 5 minutes total. The AT&T internet settings and such will stay. It will remain fully functional. If you want stuff back like Cingular Video or Media mall you will have to reinstall those separately.
First of all you must realize when you are done the phone will be just like it came out of the box, minus the bloatware. You will have to reinstall any applications installed to the device, and redo all previously applied hacks. Backup anything you don't want lost that is in storage memory, and move it to your storage card. Anything on your storage card is safe. Once everything you don't want lost is safely backed up or moved you can proceed.
Click Start --> Settings --> System tab --> Clear Storage
Enter "1234" and click YES.
Device will reboot.
When it comes back up have your stylus ready. It will ask you to align the screen (Tap the crosshairs), set the time zone & clock, etc.
When done you will see a green screen that says something like "You have now setup your device, tap the screen to begin using Windows Mobile..."
As soon as you tap and the today screen opens you will see a text box popup saying "Software install will begin in 3 seconds" Quickly soft reset the phone before this install begins. Do this by inserting the Stylus in the reset hole in the bottom of the device and press before the install begins.
Device will reboot.
When it comes back up you will be free of AT&T Bloatware.
You may now redo all of your hacks and reinstall your software. You will notice a lot more available storage memory and RAM available.
Enjoy!
-Jay
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Hello
Do you have a List of all that is in the AT&T Bloatware ?
Cos I did not do like u have said & have had my phone since Nov
But now i have so much Installed on my Phone & more Imp is all my contacts
& just redo all my conts will take me more than a month
I do have it on sprite back up
But if i do like u said & run sprite backup wont i get all the Bloatware back on too ?
What do you suggest i do ?
Thanks for your Help
ilordvader said:
Hello
Do you have a List of all that is in the AT&T Bloatware ?
Cos I did not do like u have said & have had my phone since Nov
But now i have so much Installed on my Phone & more Imp is all my contacts
& just redo all my conts will take me more than a month
I do have it on sprite back up
But if i do like u said & run sprite backup wont i get all the Bloatware back on too ?
What do you suggest i do ?
Thanks for your Help
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No, I don't have a list of everything the bloatware install ads, hides, or otherwise changes. I know Internet connection sharing is hidden and replaced with the AT&T dialer application. Then there's all the 30 second trial versions of the games that are gone as well.
After you remove the bloatware all the cabs for the bloatware are in the windows directory. If there's anything missing like Cingular Video, or anything else like that, that you can't live without just run the appropriate *.cab file and install it. I prefer this way as you can selectively install just what you want, and leave out the rest.
-Jay
JimmyMcGee said:
What Two Days And you haven't Flashed yet? That's too long! I flashed mine First day!
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LOL, I've had mine since November and I haven't flashed yet. I haven't found a need to so far. I am heavily tweaked and modded though... I've been thinking about flashing, but I generally don't flash a device until my warranty expires, but that's just me. I think the only exception was with my classic model V3. I think I flashed that phone the day I got it to remove the Cingular crap. It was not necessary to flash the Tilt to remove the AT&T crap, so I haven't flashed ... yet.
-Jay
Jay2TheRescue said:
Its really easy to remove the bloatware on an AT&T Tilt. Takes about 5 minutes total. The AT&T internet settings and such will stay. It will remain fully functional. If you want stuff back like Cingular Video or Media mall you will have to reinstall those separately.
First of all you must realize when you are done the phone will be just like it came out of the box, minus the bloatware. You will have to reinstall any applications installed to the device, and redo all previously applied hacks. Backup anything you don't want lost that is in storage memory, and move it to your storage card. Anything on your storage card is safe. Once everything you don't want lost is safely backed up or moved you can proceed.
Click Start --> Settings --> System tab --> Clear Storage
Enter "1234" and click YES.
Device will reboot.
When it comes back up have your stylus ready. It will ask you to align the screen (Tap the crosshairs), set the time zone & clock, etc.
When done you will see a green screen that says something like "You have now setup your device, tap the screen to begin using Windows Mobile..."
As soon as you tap and the today screen opens you will see a text box popup saying "Software install will begin in 3 seconds" Quickly soft reset the phone before this install begins. Do this by inserting the Stylus in the reset hole in the bottom of the device and press before the install begins.
Device will reboot.
When it comes back up you will be free of AT&T Bloatware.
You may now redo all of your hacks and reinstall your software. You will notice a lot more available storage memory and RAM available.
Enjoy!
-Jay
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Hey thanks alot Jay .. ill try it sounds easy i just wanted to make sure that after that my phone number i mean my phone line , my gps, and mi internet will still work after that ...
IcOpRo said:
Hey thanks alot Jay .. ill try it sounds easy i just wanted to make sure that after that my phone number i mean my phone line , my gps, and mi internet will still work after that ...
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Yeah, mine still worked. Just the crap is gone. Remember you will have to reinstall everything, and setup your device again, so make sure you have all that stuff ready. Its a good idea to keep all of your cabs in a folder on your storage card so you don't have to look for that stuff when you hard reset.
-Jay
Jay2TheRescue said:
Yeah, mine still worked. Just the crap is gone. Remember you will have to reinstall everything, and setup your device again, so make sure you have all that stuff ready. Its a good idea to keep all of your cabs in a folder on your storage card so you don't have to look for that stuff when you hard reset.
-Jay
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Thanks a lot jay i did it and i really like the way my phone is working now.. put all my mods on it , i really like the htc factory setup rader than the Att one... now i just need o fin a way to post my tday screen on the forums i want 2 do that.
IcOpRo said:
Thanks a lot jay i did it and i really like the way my phone is working now.. put all my mods on it , i really like the htc factory setup rader than the Att one... now i just need o fin a way to post my tday screen on the forums i want 2 do that.
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I downloaded a screen capture utility. Google it. There's lots of them out there as shareware or freeware.
-Jay
Was firstly thinking of doing the 6.1 upgrade to my HTC branded TyTN 2 on T-Mobile. But after noticing they are still supplying 6 I am now just going to do a hard reset, I've had the device for about 15 months now.
Is it easy to backup the Favorites on TomTom6? I will export my settings from FoneAlarm but is there anything else I should do? I will re apply the patches and reload the latest Skype.
The reason for the hard reset is that I often get the "wait" symbol appear and have to reboot cos it slows right down. Also just to clear down any junk.
Cheers,
James
Use any of the reputed backup programs for WM like sprite, spb or PIM backup. It should back up all your data for restore at a later point or on another rom. Download the one that works for you.
m0bov said:
Was firstly thinking of doing the 6.1 upgrade to my HTC branded TyTN 2 on T-Mobile. But after noticing they are still supplying 6 I am now just going to do a hard reset, I've had the device for about 15 months now.
Is it easy to backup the Favorites on TomTom6? I will export my settings from FoneAlarm but is there anything else I should do? I will re apply the patches and reload the latest Skype.
The reason for the hard reset is that I often get the "wait" symbol appear and have to reboot cos it slows right down. Also just to clear down any junk.
Cheers,
James
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If you're only going to back up contacts , sms, emails , calender, then PimBackup is great and easy to use , as is Sprite Back up.
As long as you are cleaning up you're phone for better performance, look at all the custom 6.1 roms available . Better performance, 6.1 and the support of the chefs. Everything T- Mobile couldn't give you.
m0bov said:
Is it easy to backup the Favorites on TomTom6?
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Can't be easier: copy the MapSettings.cfg from your maps folder. This file stores all your favorites, home address, and recent destinations. I have version 7, but I think it is the same in 6. If not, it is going to be in TomTom's (the program) folder.
Hi, I am running both spb mobile and tf3d on the rc elite system. I recently installed the cleanram and used the level 2 quality purge. After using this, my TF3d stopped working and all i see is the HTC logo when i try to switch back to tf3d. The tf3d tab is selected in the today menu.
the tf3d will start working after a soft reset but by the end of the day, it will timeout and tf3d will not startup until the next soft reset. I also tried to restore my settings to where they were before with the last backup and it still happens. I looked all over the forum and and tried to search it within the forum with no luck. Please help.
Thanks
I doubt cleanram had anything to do with it, since you can get it going again with a reboot. I've had this happen when I restored pim.vol without shutting down tf3d. I have a feeling that you did a bad restore at some point. You didn't do a full restore with a backup from an old rom after the flash, did you? That's a ggod way to mess up tf3d. Or, did you install a tf3d theme without shutting it down? Even a simple thing like adding a clock can screw up manila if you don't do it right.
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I doubt cleanram had anything to do with it, since you can get it going again with a reboot. I've had this happen when I restored pim.vol without shutting down tf3d. I have a feeling that you did a bad restore at some point. You didn't do a full restore with a backup from an old rom after the flash, did you? That's a ggod way to mess up tf3d. Or, did you install a tf3d theme without shutting it down? Even a simple thing like adding a clock can screw up manila if you don't do it right.
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the tf3d timingout and not restarting happened right after I had used the cleanram. I was thinking maybe the cleanram had deleted something i needed and my backup didn't restore it back. I flashed the elite rom over 6 months with no problems and have not done a restore since after my tf3d started screwing up. And i did not do a restore when i flashed my rom on my phone. I also did not install a tf3d theme. I have even gone to the tf3d config and selected the reset/restore settings thing and it still doesn't fix things. I do not know what else to do besides do a hard reset without restoring anything, but would be my last option and do not wanna lose all my stuff.
Thanks
That is seriously weird. I'm not sure how cleanram could've deleted any files, though. All the manila files should be in rom, unless it was installed with a cab (either by you or during the bootup customization-that seems unlikely, though).
It may just be time for a hard reset, though. Six months is a long time to go without one. You can always do a full backup, hard reset, then do a full restore. The worst case scenario is that you'll be right back where you started. But, I would say there's a decent chance that you'll be ok. When you do a full restore, files and reg settings are added, but things are not normally deleted. So if you did manage to delete something important (like a registry key), then it should come back from the dead.
ok...I was thinking a full restore again would be best..lol. So should I do a hard reset and then a full restore or can I just do a full restore? I had just done a full restore and not a hard reset. I never thought doing both might make a difference compare to just doing one.
Yeah, definitely do the hard reset first. Most backup programs will tell you only to do the restore right after a hard reset. It can cause major issues if you do the restore without doing the hard reset.
I did a search and as Ive found over the past few years the search option blows. Anyway, I have been customizing my tilt as well as my moms (that I will be shipping back to her) anyway I need to put another rom on her phone but dont want to lose the customization since it took so long to do.
My question is what specifically to select in lets say sprite back up or spb?
Thanks.
Spb backup allows you to back up the entire phone, contacts, installed programs, sms, everything.
i used it when i was trying out new roms becuase i didn't want to re-set up my phone again from scratch after messing with a new OS.
Fully agree
Sprite Backup also lets you choose exactly what you want to backup.