TyTn II v M700 - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Does anyone have any strong views on battery usage of the TyTn II please.
I have recently been on holiday with my M700 and went through at least 3 batteries in 8 days just leaving the phone switched on (but switched off at night) and in the end I had to seek out a charger to continue using the device.
I was therefore strongly tempted to upgrade to the TyTn II but notice that a number of reviewers are critical of the battery.
If I do upgrade will I be any better off??
Brian Leach

Just take the charger and a travel adaptor.
You won't get 8 days out of any smartphone.

Rough indication: TyTn II can survive for about 2.5 until 3+ days days without accessing data (3G/Wifi) connection.

Thanks for the responses.
I would normally take a charger but if camping this is not possible and despite trying several solar chargers none of them seem to work with the M700 which is very touchy about recharging eg if using satnav in the car even with the car charger plugged in the battery lasts for only about an hour before dieing.
I don't know if this is a particular problem with the M700 or whether devices with mini usb chargers take longer, I certainly had no similar problem with my xda II which would remain fully charged using the satnav in similar conditions.
Brian Leach

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Recharging with Cradle

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Hi everyone ,
somewhere I read about the possebility to change the wireing of the Cradle for the XDA, so you can Recharg the XDA over USB. Can anyone help me???
http://www.xda-developers.com/usbcharge/
Cradle charges my XDA II
I have only had my O2 XDA II for 3 weeks, My cradle used to need the charger pluged in to it to charge. However the other day my XDA II was running low on battery, It was in the cradle without the charger (left it at work). I was downloading some shareware when i noticed that it was charging. I thought that this must just be an error on the display, but it charged to 100%!. I thought it wasn't supposed to do this? I have used this method to charge ever since and it works...any explanations??

Cradle ?

Has anyone seen anything about a cradle being available ?
I generally pop my blueangel in the cradle when I get home at night and it charges up and syncs really quickly there as well.
DLD
I haven't been able to find one. I bought my TyTn II from clove and they are to have a cradle "soon". http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct....Category=0A33F854-4108-4A5E-805C-63811E7D6256
I'm not going to buy one until I get confirmation that it will be able to charge a second stand alone battery.
Hey,
My TyTN II fits in the cradle from HTC for my TyTN. Not perfectly , but 95%. It is fully functional.
R
rakh1 said:
Hey,
My TyTN II fits in the cradle from HTC for my TyTN. Not perfectly , but 95%. It is fully functional.
R
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Thats great. Thanks for the info. So this one will work fine then http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300149305916
And does yours charge the extra battery in the back with no problem?
I guess I should look up the charging specs before purchasing one.
I just got the TyTN cradle today and the extra battery charger in the back of the cradle has 5 connectors but my TyTN II battery has 4 connectors so if any one is getting a TyTN cradle to charge an extra battery its a waste of money. I know the poster recommended the cradle to charge and hold up the TyTn II and did not advise on the extra battery charging so it was my mistake. I'm just posting this in case another user may find this information helpful.
jamespaulritter said:
I just got the TyTN cradle today and the extra battery charger in the back of the cradle has 5 connectors but my TyTN II battery has 4 connectors so if any one is getting a TyTN cradle to charge an extra battery its a waste of money. I know the poster recommended the cradle to charge and hold up the TyTn II and did not advise on the extra battery charging so it was my mistake. I'm just posting this in case another user may find this information helpful.
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thanks for the update .. saved me from getting one !
DLD
Strange that the TYTn II fits into the TyTn cradle... I have a car holder for my TyTn and even though The new TyTn II fits into car holder 95% but it does not charge strangely enough.
Yup, the TyTn Charge cradles work but the back of the Kaiser is thinner which places most of the support work on the connector. Plus that extra battery charger ports are now useless. Definately wait for a "real" Kaiser charge cradle. Ahh, the trials of early adopting
I took the TyTN cradle apart, pealed back the glue holding 2 of the end pins down, popped off the center right pin and placed the end pin in its place, went under it with super glue then over it with loctite glue. I put the extra battery in the back, it was at 1% charge and it took 6 hours to get to 100%. It shows red for charging and green for charged. It doesn't get as warm as a battery usually would when charging which coincides with the lengthy 6 hour charge time. The cradle doesn't charge the phone unless the usb is plugged in. But I believe this will suit my needs and any other impatient users out there. It took less than 2 minutes and was super easy.
Which band cradle? Mine has no way to re-locate the pins, there are "divots" on each side of the contacts, right where the moved ones would need to be.
Did you mean which brand of cradle? The guy on ebay has 3 more of them. Do you want me to email u pics of my modified one? Its no trouble. http://search.ebay.com/search/searc...+htc+cingular+8525+hermes+tytn+b78&category0=
If anyone decides to do this I just wanted to single out the fact that my findings were that this works but charges the battery very very slowly. The last 10 percent to reach 100% took 2 hours to complete. The battery is cold in the charger. However the upright cradle charging the phone charges at a normal rate.
I'll prolly wait for Kaiser docks to surface. On the one you modded, did it charge Hermes batteries slowly as well? They are the same capacity and if the Kaiser takes longer I'd be concerned that the charger wasn't monitoring the charge correctly. I use a lot of lithiums in R/C gear and they burn really well when chargers go astray.
Ive never had a Hermes. It charges the battery at almost a normal rate but then when the battery is 90% the charge light turns green then the last 10% takes a few hours to charge up.
Any updates on this ? Finally got my Tilt yesterday and am ready for a cradle
DLD
via "lildogg" in acc. section...
at least you know where it will be eventually
http://www.talkietech.com/htckatiip4de.html
I would like one of these also, but I would like to make it work as a speakerphone while in the cradle. I guess I would need a mini USB splitter and an audio and mike adapter too?
Anyone seen such an animal or have any ideas on just how to do it??
Thanks

3600mAh battery problems & WM6

Hi All,
First post. I have been an XDA user since the first O2 XDA came out in the UK in about 2002.
I now have the XDA IIs and I upgraded to WM6. Thanks to everyone for their hard work
I also found the battery was draining faster (the system 'metabolism' seems to be faster since it picks up WiFi and Mobile networks much quicker than the old Radio Stack and Operating System on 2003SE).
Anyway, I bought a 3600mAh extended battery on eBay from Cameron Sino Batteries (HK). The new battery cant be recognised on the XDA IIS by WM6 and it wont hold any charge. Also a pain in the neck because the XDA IIs wont fit in the cradle either, but even when i use the mains AC charger, the battery wont charge nor even get hot. The charger is OK and the Blue Angel is OK.
Anyone know whats going on or what is the work around?
Thanks all.
I know its the hols....
Sorry about the bump.... lots of views...
just wondering if anyone has also had this problem of upgraded batteries not reading properly on the WM6 upgrade on BA / not charging
I thought there might be more as people with this problem as a few are having battery drainage issues... the natural remedy is to get a new battery if you have the funds.
...anyone any answers?
This battery very big, oh no, i'm never using it. You must replace changer, because your changer 800mA +/- 5%. You don't change your XDA on USB !!!
I have the same problem as you.
I also bought the 3600mAh battery.
You noe what I do?
I get a screwdriver (star key). Open the 6 numbers of screw (from cradle) then wala.... done.
The charger is not the problem
Hi,
The charger is not the problem... OK OK... it does not fit in the standard O2 XDA IIs cradle but that it not the main problem.
The main problem is that even if I charge the BA using the AC plug and adapter ONLY (ie. not using the cradle) the battery still does not charge up; it doesnt get warm and the BA does not recognise the new 3600mAh battery.
I hope that made sense!
You need to be patient and leave it to charge overnight. I bought one from ebay and it took more than 6 hours for any sign of charging to show. I had already concluded it was no good but decided to leave it to charge overnight. In the morning when I checked it was 100% charged.
Was it the same?
Hi,
Thanks for the reply; was it the same 3600 mAh battery? I left mine for about 8-10 hours with no result at all.
No charge
Not recognised on wm6
No heat (like a charging battery / battery in use gets warm)
Battery options
If no one has a solution, does anyone know what battery options there are for the BA and what SIZE they are?
The people I bought the battery from might provide an alternative:
Such as
* 1490 mAh
* 3600 mAh
any others?
WM6
Sorry to bump it but need some advice all!
I am running two batteries sequentially on my BA:
1490
2400 MAH
the 2400 MAH Does survive for 5 Days !! soem times more, but the drawback is : when the battery meter is close to 30% it suddenly drops to 9% where it can hold for 3 more days !!
n.b: i am running helmi's WM6
Helmi WM6
I'm running Helmi's WM6 too - great package by the way!!!
The big battery (3600mAh) IS NOT recognised and it does not charge. Is there a solution?
I had an old 3600mAh battery as well as a new one from Cameron Sino that had exhibited the same problems ever since I upgraded my HP4700 PDA to WM6. Cameron even sent me a new replacement battery but the problems remained. Hence, it is most likely an issue with WM6. Since I can't charge them anymore, I don't even know if WM6 had "killed" the extended batteries.
What about 2400mAh and 1500 battery from CS?
Have you guys use them?
I'm looking for a new battery. But i'm totally afraid of 3600mAh from CS right now.
Actually it works!
I have an 3600 battary, and it works fine with WM6!
The only issue is, that if it gets to 30% of charge, it also drops down to 9% instead! That sucks! But my battery works pretty well!
So either your accus are bad, or something else, but not the WM6.
Try to downgrade once, and try your battery then.
Actually I have updated my WM6 with my 3600 accu in, maybe it could help, if you do it aswell?
Once again:
1) Downgrade to 2003
2) Plug-in and test your 3600 battary
3) if it works - charge it completely
4) Upgrade to WM6
if it still shouldn't work, than I can't help you either, sorry. But my battary works, as I already mentioned, fine.
wfg. - Mihail
Hi,
I got my 3600 mAh battery today and it seems that I have similar problems to charge the big battery. I connected the oem charger directly to my mda III and....
- The orange charger led is off
- Battery manager diplays "AC-Only"
- Main battery is charged with 0%
I' ll wait until tomorrow from now an will see what's happened over the weekend. The interessting thing is when I disconnect the charger the mda III stays on . Dont know for how long!
My 1700 mAh battery work like the oem battery
I´ll keep you informed
rgds.
Jens
Edit:I 'am not able to charge the 3600 mAh battery by using WM 2003, WM 5 and WM 6 either. I think I replace my battery against a other battery.
Did someone know which battery (capacity in mAh) could be charged by using the stock charger?
1700 mAh battery works fine
hi friends,
check with a multimeter the voltage on the battery, if it's under 3.0v try to give a shock directly to the battery with 9v power supply.
if it's not under 3.0v than it's seems that wm6 don't like the battery or the battery is defective.
give me feedback...
i received as a gift a brand new BA two weeks ago, and i'm also figuring to get 3600mah battery.

My solution to the battery problem

No matter how you look at it, the battery life of Diamond is dismal. You can only last a day if you don't watch movies, if you don't listen to music, if you don't use GPS. But then, why did we buy this phone if we won't be able to use it?
I was fed up with it, so I bought an emergency charger like the one you can see here:
http://www.cdwg.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=1113988
Now I can use normal AA batteries to charge my Diamond. A rechargeble battery of 2700 mAh can charge it 3 times which will last the day no matter how much you use it.
So if you carry around a few normal AA batteries with such a small charger like I do, you don't have a battery problem anymore...
UPDATE (actually a sad correction): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2502994&postcount=32
Very good idea. It is one more thing in our pocket, but it can be very usefull in some cases.
The American Diamond comes with a 1340 mAh battery... So it shouldn't be as troublesome as your 900 mAh power source.
and are they bigger ?
Could u give us the dimensions of your phone with this kind of battery ?
A 1340 mah battery would last only 50% longer than the standard one. A charger like mine with an AA battery would make the phone last 300% longer. You only have to carry one more thing in your bag.
With your cigarettes, your wallet, your keys, etc.
Yeah I know I should quit smoking then !
I wonder if this would work: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8103
It's obviously not as efficient because it only uses 1 battery, but it's a lot smaller.
I used one of those at Glastonbury this year on my old nokia n73 all it does is give you an emergency charge say 2 bars on a nokia. Enough to make a few quick calls.
or something like this?
wonder if it will work on a Diamond?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/USD-GM051-Uni...39969QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
xirederf said:
and are they bigger ?
Could u give us the dimensions of your phone with this kind of battery ?
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According to some specs I have seen for the "HTC Victor" on the Sprint network, the thickness of the phone increases to 0.6 inches from 0.5 Inches (14mm from 11.5mm)
I for one would be happy to add an extra 2.5mm to my phone to get the increased battery life.
I believe its a bulkier battery with a deeper back cover.
All HTC devices have crap battery life, its generally because people use them for things other than phones. Im sure if you did all what is stated on a normal phone then it wouldnt last much longer than a day as well. I know my Sony Ericsson will probably only last 2 days if I just have a bluetooth headset connected, and thats without making any calls, watching videos or listening to music.
Top Tip, carry a travel USB cable with you, youre never to far from a PC... When Im away on business I keep my diamond and TyTn plugged into the lappy all the time.
Car charger
I use a car charger. It is more practical.
I have no battery problems at all with my Diamond. The battery was pretty bad at first (would only last a day), but now it's fine and I can get 3-4 days out of a single charge.
In-car charger plus desktop charger when at work. Result? Infinite battery life!
tmohammad said:
According to some specs I have seen for the "HTC Victor" on the Sprint network, the thickness of the phone increases to 0.6 inches from 0.5 Inches (14mm from 11.5mm)
I for one would be happy to add an extra 2.5mm to my phone to get the increased battery life.
I believe its a bulkier battery with a deeper back cover.
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indeed, you need an extra back cover
http://www.expansys.pt/p.aspx?i=166204
Im with the fella above,
Bought an extra mini-usb cable and carry all the time with me.
I have in the car some of those carchargers with usb out (of a non working FM-RAdio USB that bought for 4 euros), at home i use the DC charger at the office i connect it to the laptop.
All HTC have battery problems and diamong beeing a small unit, its a price to pay.
Same to the iphone in 3G mode.
to be honest since i bought the phone and charged it a couple of times, i get a 3 days tops usage with music, calls and all the other clicking. i don't know about you guys, but so far i'm quite happy with my batery life, and i haven't been using it for more than 3 weeks yet.
and in case i will eventualy have this issue, a spare batery will do the job
iliescu902 said:
to be honest since i bought the phone and charged it a couple of times, i get a 3 days tops usage with music, calls and all the other clicking. i don't know about you guys, but so far i'm quite happy with my batery life, and i haven't been using it for more than 3 weeks yet.
and in case i will eventualy have this issue, a spare batery will do the job
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My bat life is also OK now. Any of you guys considered to buy a spare bat - it's the smallest soultion I think, but of couse you need rebooting the phone.
This is another good solution.... I think
http://www.tang-shop.com/universal-external-battery-powerbox.html
9600 mAh, ten times the OEM battery, more than 24 hours with active gps for instance
tonyb15re said:
All HTC devices have crap battery life, its generally because people use them for things other than phones. Im sure if you did all what is stated on a normal phone then it wouldnt last much longer than a day as well.
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YEEES ! that's the solution ! I'll stop using my Diamond for what i bought it for !
And maybe, buy instead a nokia 1600 !
But what you say is true... I have an old SE that is used only to wake me up... it lasts at least 1 month without charging !

Buying a new Battery

Hello,
my phone's battery is no longer useful and it doesn't last more than a couple of hours, so i've decided to buy a new one, i saw batteries with 1800mAh capacity, is it good? or i should just buy the original, and if any one know reliable brands i can buy from.
I bought a 1800mAh battery for my X1 and it works fine but I had to buy an external charger too because the phone charges only original batteries. So I suggest you to buy an original battery ;-)
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I read this thread about batteries,it is very useful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540054
I bought non-original battery(1650mAh) manufactured by Forever. Not sure about its actual capacity(I think it's around 1500), but after half a year it still works great. And original charger works with it too. And it cost me 1/5 the price of a original one. The only issue with it is not working temperature sensor.
my battery is 2 years old. it was not good one month ago. then I searched and found something about battery calibration on xda and now it is working well again.
before calibration ---> from 8 AM (100%) to 4 PM (30%) then power off or must charge ...
after calibration ---> from 8 AM (100%) to 8 AM (next day of course, %50)
I am a heavy user. xperia x1 is my primary phone. I talk 2-3 hours in a day and always connected to the internet over 3G (direct push from company mail and a hotmail account with synchronizing every 5 mins.)
the link is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011099
I've bought a JinDian 1900mAh battery from eBay,it works like a charm!My phone works now 4-5 days without problems,i listen to music,talking~20mins

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