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i think the speaker sound quality on Touch Diamond is not good. Low volume and weakness on mid-tone and bass. do you feel the same ?
Hmmm...Well, small speakers are weak at lower pitches. Are you comparing the quality to other similar devices or to other speakers in general?
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Hmmm...Well, small speakers are weak at lower pitches. Are you comparing the quality to other similar devices or to other speakers in general?
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i'm compared it with my HTC Touch Elf. I use same MP3 ringtone on both devices. and e-mail alert "wav" with pushmail. When email arrive, the voice of "You've got mail" is big different in quality.
In my Touch Elf, sometimes people will thought it's real human speech.
Fair enough. That's not good then...
TBH, I think the speaker on the Touch looks like it should have a better sound quality than the speaker on the Touch Diamond too...
Then I guess I will be happy since it's bound to be better than the HTC tornado wich was my last HTC device..
what do tou think about signal strength??
Hi,
I work in a big society of telecommunications, and I'm an acoustician. I measured a lot of mobile phones, not only WM compliant. In general, the quality of mobile phone is very bad, I measure a HTC P3300, and it's not so good as a Sony Ericsson Wxxx for example.
I mean that it's so crazy that we spend a lot of money in a WM compliant phone, having a bad voice quality ! What are HTC's acousticians doing ? It's time to put good transducers in our phones !
tony71 said:
what do tou think about signal strength??
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For signal reception strength, i think it is better or equal to my HTC Touch Elf.
Mister K said:
Hi,
I work in a big society of telecommunications, and I'm an acoustician. I measured a lot of mobile phones, not only WM compliant. In general, the quality of mobile phone is very bad, I measure a HTC P3300, and it's not so good as a Sony Ericsson Wxxx for example.
I mean that it's so crazy that we spend a lot of money in a WM compliant phone, having a bad voice quality ! What are HTC's acousticians doing ? It's time to put good transducers in our phones !
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I don't know why, because the speaker quality in HTC Touch Elf is still up to normal people standard. So, I believe that HTC Touch Diamond, as a sucessor, should be better or equal to that in Touch Elf; but I know it's not the case now.
Maybe this is another drawback due to the thickness.
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I don't know why, because the speaker quality in HTC Touch Elf is still up to normal people standard. So, I believe that HTC Touch Diamond, as a sucessor, should be better or equal to that in Touch Elf; but I know it's not the case now.
Maybe this is another drawback due to the thickness.
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The Touch isn't that much thicker (something like 2mm), so I don't think there's any excuse for bad sound quality.
2mm is a nassive amount when you're considering the thickness of a device. But, I agree that in a year, components should have gotten smaller, and HTC should have never compromised call quality to make it thinner.
Rory
Hi,
What do you think about the Diamond touch voice quality ?
Good, bad,...
I've got a trinity, and its so bad quality voice...
Thanks for your answer !
This is very disappointing to me, I was looking forward to the Raphael. I may just have to wait and see what the Nvidia chip goes into and hope for better sound quality. Thanks, JASTECH
If the Diamond has a slideout keyboard like the 6800/Titan and a 3.5mm audio jack, it would DEFINITELY be an iPhone killer...too bad though.
I saw a video demo of a guy using the on-screen keyboard of the Diamond and he was typing like one letter a second, lol...so slow! And you hear him say "it's not bad, i like this"...guess he never used a 6800 keyboard. I can type an entire paragraph in 10 seconds, correctly punctuated, lol.
Darn...the diamond really had potential, then I found out no keyboard, no real audio jack. If the 6800 had an audio jack, I would never upgrade. I mean 8gb cards are now, like what...$20? lol. So the 4gb internal storage of the Diamond isnt that impressive
crobs808 said:
If the Diamond has a slideout keyboard like the 6800/Titan and a 3.5mm audio jack, it would DEFINITELY be an iPhone killer...too bad though.
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You are in luck!
Check out Raphael and Vario, the big brothers of Diamond.
Raphael answers your prayers and the Vario goes two steps higher!
Details are as below
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1320&view=1
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1306&view=1
KOR!
King of Rapture™ said:
You are in luck!
Check out Raphael and Vario, the big brothers of Diamond.
Raphael answers your prayers and the Vario goes two steps higher!
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isnt the vario 3 the raphael, aka touch diamond pro?
that pdadb picture for the raphael is so old its unbelievable... the specs for the diamond are different from when it had a pic just like that.
Rory
crobs808 said:
If the Diamond has a slideout keyboard like the 6800/Titan and a 3.5mm audio jack, it would DEFINITELY be an iPhone killer...too bad though.
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I agree that the lack of an audio jack is very annoying, but HTC don't seem to like it. However, I don't think a keyboard would make the Touch Diamond compete better with the iPhone, because the whole point of the iPhone is a lack of keyboard. That's why the iPhone, and the Touch, are more popular than similar devices with keyboards...
The Raphael has same specs as Diamond, but it has a sliding keyboard, a bigger battery and a SD slot (no internal 4GB).
The Vario adds to this:
Double the ROM from 256mb to 512mb
and RAM from 196mb to 256mb
KOR!
And they're bigger. One of the main points of the Touch Diamond is its (lack of) size.
Hello!
I'm new on this forum, as I'm new on Diamond stuffs. Didn't mean I doesn't have any knowledge about modiles. But, beside this and the search that I perform, let me ask:
The Motorola S9 Bluetooth headset works fine with Diamond? I know it's the phone have all profiles inside (A2DP, HSP, HDF and AVRCP) but I wanna read some experiences with.
Can I pick a call and still listen my music after drop the call? Everytihng works fine with this device? If yes, I'll buy it on saturday. Didn't not to mention the fact of Diamond headset be a worst piece of crap (IMHO!).
Please, forgive my terrible english and thanks for all your answers!
Hi,
Yes, everything works well with the Motorola S9. I use it every day. The only issue I have, and its been discussed elsewhere, is that the remote control for music only work with Media Player and the touchflow 3d music player.
DT
Works fine, although I do think that the audio quality is better with my moto v3maxx, but still far better than the Diamond headphones. I think i saw a mod somewhere for those headphones, to wipe out the static.
note if you get the S9, try looking for the S9 HD, it wipes out static on any phone.
They took so long with the S9 HD. They announced them several months ago and they're still not out; have to wait till Q4 for them :\.
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Hi,
Yes, everything works well with the Motorola S9. I use it every day. The only issue I have, and its been discussed elsewhere, is that the remote control for music only work with Media Player and the touchflow 3d music player.
DT
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Hmmm... I'm not a Windows user; I use a Macbook to sync my stuffs with Diamond. That's my point: my music stills in M4A format, so... only the Pocket Player (from Conduits) is capable to play them with all tags correctly displayed.
Should this program works with S9? And I didn't see the HD to sale on my country (Brazil).
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Hello!
I'm new on this forum, as I'm new on Diamond stuffs. Didn't mean I doesn't have any knowledge about modiles. But, beside this and the search that I perform, let me ask:
The Motorola S9 Bluetooth headset works fine with Diamond? I know it's the phone have all profiles inside (A2DP, HSP, HDF and AVRCP) but I wanna read some experiences with.
Can I pick a call and still listen my music after drop the call? Everytihng works fine with this device? If yes, I'll buy it on saturday. Didn't not to mention the fact of Diamond headset be a worst piece of crap (IMHO!).
Please, forgive my terrible english and thanks for all your answers!
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Works excelent for me...
I got an official Spanish ROM...
Marcos,
I live in Brazil too and I have a S9. Be very careful where you buy it from, because most of what is sold is fake.
I bought mine from EBay, and it costed US$ 105 shipped. If you find it for much less than that (< US$ 70) it's probably fake.
Ask the seller if it comes with a hologram wrapped around it, because the original one does.
Now about the Diamond don't know, I use my S9 with my Motorola A1200. I didn't buy a Diamond yet because I'm waiting for Touch Pro.
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Marcos,
I live in Brazil too and I have a S9. Be very careful where you buy it from, because most of what is sold is fake.
I bought mine from EBay, and it costed US$ 105 shipped. If you find it for much less than that (< US$ 70) it's probably fake.
Ask the seller if it comes with a hologram wrapped around it, because the original one does.
Now about the Diamond don't know, I use my S9 with my Motorola A1200. I didn't buy a Diamond yet because I'm waiting for Touch Pro.
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US$ 105 ? That's pretty expensive for such a pair of A2DP headphones. It has major problems with outdoor interference-resistance and can get bad very easily if your ears are sweaty (you for example run / jog while listening to music), unlike with larger headphones.
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US$ 105 ? That's pretty expensive for such a pair of A2DP headphones. It has major problems with outdoor interference-resistance and can get bad very easily if your ears are sweaty (you for example run / jog while listening to music), unlike with larger headphones.
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Unfortunally we live in an expansive country. Taxes is all we've got...
Smaniac said:
Marcos,
I live in Brazil too and I have a S9. Be very careful where you buy it from, because most of what is sold is fake.
I bought mine from EBay, and it costed US$ 105 shipped. If you find it for much less than that (< US$ 70) it's probably fake.
Ask the seller if it comes with a hologram wrapped around it, because the original one does.
Now about the Diamond don't know, I use my S9 with my Motorola A1200. I didn't buy a Diamond yet because I'm waiting for Touch Pro.
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Hi Smaniac!
Well... I found it in a mall (SP Market in São Paulo) for R$250,00. I'm not worry about price, but the full compatibility itself. BTW, the hologram looks like in this photo? And you get the red, blue, green or black device?
Thanks for your reply!
For me, the headphones have been nothing but perfect whether i'm outside or inside. I don't run a lot but play a lot basketball but don't where them so i can't comment on that. At the ATT store, they retail for about 100 and through Motorola, 120 :O.
Well... I'll buy it on saturday!
I'll tell yours my impressions after get it on my hands.
Good and bad news about this. The radio works, with headphones that have an FM antenna! Yay!
But
The reception is bad...
and I mean, BAD. Cuts in and out of local stations that I always get 100% signal from a car or any other radio.
Mine works great and I'm 50 miles north of Atlanta.
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Mine works great and I'm 50 miles north of Atlanta.
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You also don't have an AT&T Touch Pro...
Hmmm, the phone obviously recognises the headset is plugged in, but do you defiinitely have the right one?
Mine only works properly with the HTC S300 headset (Diamond and Raphael standard ones). When I tried it with my old Kaiser/Hermes headset, I only got faint radio, and a lot of static...
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Hmmm, the phone obviously recognises the headset is plugged in, but do you defiinitely have the right one?
Mine only works properly with the HTC S300 headset (Diamond and Raphael standard ones). When I tried it with my old Kaiser/Hermes headset, I only got faint radio, and a lot of static...
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Not sure if it's the identical set that came in the box, but I bought it from expansys and it's specifically noted to be for the HTC Touch Pro and include an FM radio antenna... I don't know beyond that.
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You also don't have an AT&T Touch Pro...
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No but I do have an HTC Touch Pro and I would think the FM radio would be the same as yours.
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No but I do have an HTC Touch Pro and I would think the FM radio would be the same as yours.
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Unfortunately, Black's AT&T Touch Pro didn't come with any radio software installed, or a headset, so he's starting from scratch...
I don't think anyone is selling the official Diamond/Pro headset yet, but I would assume that any HTC headset with an antenna should work, so I'm at a bit of a loss, as the software seems to be working and picking up some sort of signal.
Perhaps there actually is an antenna connection between the receiver and the headset that is inside the HTC Touch Pro, but was left out of the AT&T version?
This is likely wishful thinking, but I am thinking that the fact that the AT&T hardware contains the FM receiver is further evidence that the hardware is identical to the HTC standard issue units and, inferentially, that the Touch Pro's 3G radio will be identical as well.
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This is likely wishful thinking, but I am thinking that the fact that the AT&T hardware contains the FM receiver is further evidence that the hardware is identical to the HTC standard issue units and, inferentially, that the Touch Pro's 3G radio will be identical as well.
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Haha, identical?
1) Different model names
2) No front camera
3) Different keyboard
4) Push to talk button
It's just wishful thinking. We're all assuming/hoping the UMTS radios will all be there, but don't say the radio working is any hint of that. ;-)
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This is likely wishful thinking, but I am thinking that the fact that the AT&T hardware contains the FM receiver is further evidence that the hardware is identical to the HTC standard issue units and, inferentially, that the Touch Pro's 3G radio will be identical as well.
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Even if the hardware is identical and he is using the Radio software designed for Europe/Asia, then the software might be designed to pick up the even numbered bands (102.2, 99.8 etc). The radio stations in North America use odd numbered frequencies (102.1, 99.1 etc). Hence the terrible quality. Just a possibility.
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Even if the hardware is identical and he is using the Radio software designed for Europe/Asia, then the software might be designed to pick up the even numbered bands (102.2, 99.8 etc). The radio stations in North America use odd numbered frequencies (102.1, 99.1 etc). Hence the terrible quality. Just a possibility.
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Well, the other guy here (ATL area or wherever) said he gets fine reception, and that's with a european touch pro... So I don't know why it would be different for mine.
Might be because it's a different headset, who knows. Maybe someday I'll throw another $30 towards the ones that came with the phone.
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Haha, identical?
1) Different model names
2) No front camera
3) Different keyboard
4) Push to talk button
It's just wishful thinking. We're all assuming/hoping the UMTS radios will all be there, but don't say the radio working is any hint of that. ;-)
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All of these are peripherals. Sorry if I was not precise enough in my post, but there has been much speculation on the boards by a lot of very credible folks that the internal radios and chipsets on these units are identical.
I was going to say something smart about your attitude but I won't.
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All of these are peripherals. Sorry if I was not precise enough in my post, but there has been much speculation on the boards by a lot of very credible folks that the internal radios and chipsets on these units are identical.
I was going to say something smart about your attitude but I won't.
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Well I appreciate you not saying anything smart, that'd be a tragedy. As for the speculation of hardware, I'm fully aware of what's been questioned. All I'm saying is that the FM radio has as much to do with the UMTS radios as the PTT button and the keyboard, we're pretty sure the UMTS radios are the same but I don't think this should help that argument.
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Well I appreciate you not saying anything smart, that'd be a tragedy. As for the speculation of hardware, I'm fully aware of what's been questioned. All I'm saying is that the FM radio has as much to do with the UMTS radios as the PTT button and the keyboard, we're pretty sure the UMTS radios are the same but I don't think this should help that argument.
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Hmmm, fm radio -- internal component, keyboard and PTT buttons -- peripheral and external. I am guessing logic is not your strong suit? Sorry for the tragedy.
By the way, if "we're pretty sure the UMTS radios are the same" (and who is "we"?) then why the smart-alek comment in the first place? Never mind; don't answer that. I think from the other threads on the forum it is pretty clear why.
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"we're pretty sure the UMTS radios are the same"
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Sorry, by "we" I was referring to everyone I've spoken with from the forum who's done research regarding the subject. I spoke with one person who told me he saw a Q&A session with HTC's CEO regarding the Diamond, and something was said to the effect of "the US radio and MicroSD slot had to be removed to make it as small as it is..."
That would be pretty valid information towards saying the US radio should be present in the European Touch Pro.... The fact that I can listen to music on it, to me, isn't. But honestly I don't want to start anything, I'm on thin ice with the mods now as it is. I apologize for any rash comments and let's just be friends.
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Hmmm, fm radio -- internal component, keyboard and PTT buttons -- peripheral and external. I am guessing logic is not your strong suit? Sorry for the tragedy.
By the way, if "we're pretty sure the UMTS radios are the same" (and who is "we"?) then why the smart-alek comment in the first place? Never mind; don't answer that. I think from the other threads on the forum it is pretty clear why.
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Last time i checked the hardware for FM radio, and for cellular signal were not the same. If it were then why would you need the headphones in order to receive a signal, think about it. I do think it's far more likely that they cripple the abilities through software than by stripping out the hardware functions. If the test unit that Black has is able to start working with a simple cab addition then it is likely that scenario will continue with the official models.
I also will say that there is no need for the snarky attitude so many users seem to have here. It is not necessary to mock someone simply because they disagree with you. No matter how many time it gets said it seems that nobody listens...but here goes again "treat other members with respect" always!
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But honestly I don't want to start anything, I'm on thin ice with the mods now as it is. I apologize for any rash comments and let's just be friends.
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Good cause then we'd have to find someone else with an AT&T touch pro to pester with questions.
"If it were then why would you need the headphones in order to receive a signal"
Just for information - On all phones that have a radio, the wired headphones are always needed for the aerial. This is becuase the antenna in the device is not capable of receiving FM transmissions due to the wavelength of the signal. FM at approx 100MHz has a much larger wavelength thant the GSM signal (900 - 2100Mhz) and hence requires the larger aerial.
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Well, the other guy here (ATL area or wherever) said he gets fine reception, and that's with a european touch pro... So I don't know why it would be different for mine.
Might be because it's a different headset, who knows. Maybe someday I'll throw another $30 towards the ones that came with the phone.
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Have you tried to tune into different stations? When you do scan for stations, does it let you scan the odd numbered ones? Can you manually enter the frequency for a specific radio station? Sorry, I dont have a Touch Pro or a Diamond myself so I cant do these tests.
This is probably a stupid question, but if the wired headphones are used as the antenna, does that mean that Bluetooth headphones can't be used to listen to the radio? There was a review on pocketnow that suggested that wireless headphones could be used (though I wonder if there's some specific HTC set they're referring to). I'm just curious.
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"If it were then why would you need the headphones in order to receive a signal"
Just for information - On all phones that have a radio, the wired headphones are always needed for the aerial. This is becuase the antenna in the device is not capable of receiving FM transmissions due to the wavelength of the signal. FM at approx 100MHz has a much larger wavelength thant the GSM signal (900 - 2100Mhz) and hence requires the larger aerial.
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That was my point actually, because the person i was replying to was insistent that the cell radio had something to do with the FM Radio, which they really don't. sorry if that was unclear.
I bought these about 2 years ago when I first acquired my iPhone and they worked like a charm. In March, when the T-MoUS HD2 came out, I was looking for a headset to replace the sorry excuse for a headset they include and i had remember that I still had these. I plugged them in and in tandem with the audio booster, I must say that they are THE best in-ear headset/headphones I have ever used. I've used the Bose Headset and even the Shure headsets and those are comparable but imho aren't has good as these are.
Here's a link to Etymotic's website to see for yourselves...
http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/hf2.aspx
more information
would like to know if the music controls work with the hd2. It says you can double click, triple click for music controls. Will this work with the tmobile usa hd2?
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would like to know if the music controls work with the hd2. It says you can double click, triple click for music controls. Will this work with the tmobile usa hd2?
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me too would like to not only mind a good pair of ear buds but some that are functional
king73120 said:
me too would like to not only mind a good pair of ear buds but some that are functional
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Mee to, Please can you let us know whether remote control works with HD2, sounds like we can get something finally?
kcab87 said:
I bought these about 2 years ago when I first acquired my iPhone and they worked like a charm. In March, when the T-MoUS HD2 came out, I was looking for a headset to replace the sorry excuse for a headset they include and i had remember that I still had these. I plugged them in and in tandem with the audio booster, I must say that they are THE best in-ear headset/headphones I have ever used. I've used the Bose Headset and even the Shure headsets and those are comparable but imho aren't has good as these are.
Here's a link to Etymotic's website to see for yourselves...
http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/hf2.aspx
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Hi, Can you tell whether remote control works with HD2 i mean backward, forward, pause and call handlings?
hey everyone, i can answer your questions.
double click = next track
triple click = previous track
single click = pause/play
when someone calls....
single click answers call and music pauses and you conversation begins. after call single click ends call and music resumes.
any more questions? hope i helped you all out!
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hey everyone, i can answer your questions.
double click = next track
triple click = previous track
single click = pause/play
when someone calls....
single click answers call and music pauses and you conversation begins. after call single click ends call and music resumes.
any more questions? hope i helped you all out!
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Thanks for clarifying the functionality but can you actually confirm that these features you listed work also in HTC HD2?
knaawmsayin said:
Thanks for clarifying the functionality but can you actually confirm that these features you listed work also in HTC HD2?
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how about emailing the actual supplier and asking?
I don't know how I can confirm it. Just take my word for it i suppose. But ive been using them for 2 years. 1.5 years with an iphone and 6 months with the hd2.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
I want! too bad I cant afford
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Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Does the button work with the HTC Desire too?