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Hi guys,
Picked up my wizard this morning. I knew out of the box that it wasn't going to be what I wanted and after reading for about a hour today I have sucessfully sim and cid unlocked my phone and flashed it to the 2.3 custom rom I found here.
The info on the forum cut my learning curve by about 90% so thx guys!
E-
You get my vote for Noobie of the year!!!!
You came,
You read,
You flashed your Rom!
Thanks for showing us that sometimes it does happen this way.
Welcom to XDA-Dev and enjoy the Wiz...
I second kyphur's words!
Congrats and thank you for taking the time to research first!
Steven
chow
ec9 said:
Hi guys,
Picked up my wizard this morning. I knew out of the box that it wasn't going to be what I wanted and after reading for about a hour today I have sucessfully sim and cid unlocked my phone and flashed it to the 2.3 custom rom I found here.
The info on the forum cut my learning curve by about 90% so thx guys!
E-
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Now that's the way I like it! The same way like I learned everything.
Nest time I see some one-time-poster I'm gonna place a post with this topic link in it
ec9 said:
Hi guys,
Picked up my wizard this morning. I knew out of the box that it wasn't going to be what I wanted and after reading for about a hour today I have sucessfully sim and cid unlocked my phone and flashed it to the 2.3 custom rom I found here.
The info on the forum cut my learning curve by about 90% so thx guys!
E-
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Yes. Excellent job. Now you should work on seeing if you can fix the dropped calls issue with that ROM while using data apps
Good to see some successful posts.. out of many unsuccessful ones.
impressive! didn't think it was possible anymore but I have reason to continue living! thanks ec9!
In the famous words of myspace addicts...."you're in my top 8!"....
But since I'm on T-Mobile I can say...."you're in myfav5!"
ec9 said:
Hi guys,
Picked up my wizard this morning. I knew out of the box that it wasn't going to be what I wanted and after reading for about a hour today I have sucessfully sim and cid unlocked my phone and flashed it to the 2.3 custom rom I found here.
The info on the forum cut my learning curve by about 90% so thx guys!
E-
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That is amazing to see now. Very impressive.
hey!!
ec9, i feel exactly the same way as you!! i started the same way as you did. this device is awesome, i bought it the 1st week it was out went around looking how to customize it. after reading a lot on here ive successfully unlocked and flashed my 2nd ROM! it was moliskis rom. awesome site... Thank you all for making it what it is!
Just f*ucking Google it...
I too, came to XDA on a chance Google search. After spending several hours reading and chasing various links around, I identified my device as a G4, performed the reception fix, CID-unlocked it via the $42 IMEI site, and flashed it with Molski 3.0.0.0 -- NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER. (Except for missed calls, non-responsive buttons, etc., but that's ALSO covered in a separate thread)
XDA is an amazing resource, with some incredibly talented people. All I can say to other noobs is to be patient, thorough, and to READ READ READ.
The answers are there, you just need to calm down and LOOK. Don't try SH*T until you're confident you know what you're doing. (Excuse my language)
I LOVE XDA-dev!!
Very Impressive.
Great !
This is a great forum for ANYONE to learn about their devices and see how much they can push to do the things that the devices can do.
I think right out of the box, these devices are kinda limited in their potential. The great guys here in this site make it better and help these devices achive higher grounds.
I am very glad that you had a great experience. I have been this forum for a little over a year and always had great help and experience.
I'm also glad to see someone actually knows how to READ!!
Even though I've had my Wizard for almost 10 months now, xda was one of the FIRST sites I bookmarked after getting it. Even though I registered right away, I read threads for several weeks before ever posting anything.
I had CID and SIM unlocked and flashed to two of Summiter's ROMs within the first 6 weeks I had my phone. That was all it took to become addicted. If I'm not on here reading every day, I go into "information withdrawal".
I'll never be at the level some of these gurus are at, but I'm learning some of the "how-to's" little by little -- and, expanding my knowledge of how to do things that I wouldn't have DREAMED of doing with this phone a year ago.
I'll admit it -- I'm HOOKED!!
Congrats on picking up the information so quickly. I'll have to echo what's already been said here about a GREAT first post by a NOOB!!
Im glad that some newbie's are able use the info here and in the immortal words of the crystal method "there is hope"
We must all give credit to all those ROM cooks for all there hard work and diligence and to the other members that have made it so simple to understand and learn through there trials and errors.
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ec9 said:
Hi guys,
Picked up my wizard this morning. I knew out of the box that it wasn't going to be what I wanted and after reading for about a hour today I have sucessfully sim and cid unlocked my phone and flashed it to the 2.3 custom rom I found here.
The info on the forum cut my learning curve by about 90% so thx guys!
E-
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Sorry, I have to totally dissagree with all the praise you are getting.
How can anyone know that thier new device is not 'going to be what they wanted' in less than a day? You will have no base line to measure changes against.
I believe everyone should be made to use their new device for a month, dead standard! I can't help singgering, laughing and shaking my head in disbelief when I read about people complaining that they have to reset 4-5 times a day, that their device freezes, crashes, conflicts, or things don't work, etc, etc. Then they abuse HTC, MS and anyone else they can think of - some people curse and abuse their device, describing it as crap and shouldn't be sold like this.... then they tell you all the changes and mods they have made, and the rubbish they have installed and.... WHAT DO YOU EXPECT!!!!
My Hermes is dead standard and runs like a dream - constantly impressed by it.
I have no quams about people wanting to mod, develop, experiment, etc. but please use your device in original config for long enough to know if you are making improvements or making a mess.
IMHO anyway.
Welcome!
Since a longer time I'm reading the forum and thanks to you guys I learned a lot about my Wizard. I know now how to unlock and "unsimlock" my phone, how to flash it and many many more.
Before I will ask a question I'm reading and searching a forum to find that what I need, that's way until now I didn't post anything, so I want just to say hello to all members.
People gatherd here are very talented and helpfull people.
Best regards.
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Sorry, I have to totally dissagree with all the praise you are getting.
How can anyone know that thier new device is not 'going to be what they wanted' in less than a day? You will have no base line to measure changes against.
I believe everyone should be made to use their new device for a month, dead standard! I can't help singgering, laughing and shaking my head in disbelief when I read about people complaining that they have to reset 4-5 times a day, that their device freezes, crashes, conflicts, or things don't work, etc, etc. Then they abuse HTC, MS and anyone else they can think of - some people curse and abuse their device, describing it as crap and shouldn't be sold like this.... then they tell you all the changes and mods they have made, and the rubbish they have installed and.... WHAT DO YOU EXPECT!!!!
My Hermes is dead standard and runs like a dream - constantly impressed by it.
I have no quams about people wanting to mod, develop, experiment, etc. but please use your device in original config for long enough to know if you are making improvements or making a mess.
IMHO anyway.
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If you buy a truck for off-roading and find out the first day that it doesn't have 4 wheel drive, should you continue to drive it for 30 days to see if it will magically appear?
Congrats for researching, mate... I dunno if anyone else feels this way, but there seems to have been an influx of semi-retarded users posting recently saying things like "why won't my Sony Ericsson P990 flash???"... ok it's a bit of an exaggeration, but they're still bloody dum questions!
Like you when I found this site, I spent at least 2 days researching before I even tried to modify anything and everything I searched for came up with appropriate answers... in DEPTH! And the pay-off was quick and painless as a result... my universal now works - full stop. With the O2 ROM, it was a bag of poo compared to what it was made for, and I say that after 8 months or so of usage with original ROM.
I will be pointing resident idiots to this thread too from now on. Many thanks for your intelligence, it's what contributes to this site being as great as it is
Geez. this is the first time I've seen this post. That was like the XDA Developers Hall of Fame at the beginning. Anyway, congrats to the original poster and all who learned the right way. Mods can we re-title this thread "The Perfect Newbie" and make it a sticky to replace some of the outdated ones?
To be or not to be Noob ........
There are loads skulkers like myself that have never bothered to post.
I bow to the superior knowledge of the Windows Mobile gods and keep my trap shut until I have learned / read enough to say something intelligent on the topic.
Most things are clearly labled and easy to find.
Some of the useless post just add clutter and makes it difficult to find the truely useful info.
There will always be impatient PFY's and noob's that can't be bothered to search.
Search + Google is your friend.
Okay guys....this is the deal.
Right now I am pissed off by the noobs!
Me, Dr Puttingham, Faria and a few others..."the Gods of the Wizard Upgrading Forum" (if I can call myself and the rest of them like that) are pissed off, mostly because we got tired by all the noobs asking the same questions over and over and over again....
A few months ago this forum had some "higher intelligence" and most people did read the forum before asking, the last 1,5 month, they are first starting to ask and then read. Giving us the blame for bricking their "brand new Wizard"....screw that!
A few weeks ago I have setup a forum on www.molski.biz (www.molski.biz/forum) until now it has not been used a lot, not even by me, I didn't care about my own forum, I only cared about the XDA forum.
But right now I am thinking of moving over to my own forum, release my Roms only on my forum, answer posts only on my forum, help noobs (that can convince me that they read, read, read and only then asked a question!).
The advantage me, my mods and my admins will have is the ability to delete stupid cid-lock, what's the best rom, where is my comm manager button and how can I see if I have a G3 or G4 Wizard questions. Only questions, tutorials, information that are worth posting will stay on the forum, the rest will be deleted without asking.
Using my forum this way will keep it clean, good and every post will be worth reading!
I also have the power to let new users only post a week after registration, ban them if they get rude and things like that.
Hopefully I will get the GOOD people of XDA with me to my forum (XDA Admins, please believe me when I say I DON'T wanna steal any member, but you have to understand, XDA is going down the drain if you guys don't do something about all the irritations of respected members very soon!).
So guys, please come to www.molski.biz/forum and start filling it, so me and others can join in an active way!
Regards,
Molski
Molski,
I greatly apprecaiate your contributions, time and effort to this site. I have learned alot from your posts, threads and tutorials.
See you over at molski.biz
Molski,
I think there are a lot of people here that have upgraded to your roms and not asked the dumb questions.
I'm a noob, I read all the posts about using cooked roms for weeks before I decided to upgrade to your rom. I never asked any questions and I did not brick my phone. I find it amusing how many people did not read the threads and bricked their phones.
I find your rom to be outstanding, so if I have to go to your website to get a newer one then so be it.
Cheers.
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Molski,
I think there are a lot of people here that have upgraded to your roms and not asked the dumb questions.
Cheers.
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True, but also a lot noobs that do it, also a lot of people that never post here are PMing or emailing me with tons of questions!
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I find your rom to be outstanding, so if I have to go to your website to get a newer one then so be it.
Cheers.
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Thanks, I appreciate it.
Regards,
Molski
Moving On Up
I,ve been a maemberof you new forum for over a week and for one is glad that you and the other mods will be paying more attention t your site. Appreciate all that you and the others have done for all of us and looking forward for more the same.
OK I will join you
I am using your ROM (the older 30 MB one), and I learned a lot from you
Thanks
Just joined
I look forward to what is to come.
Kirby
The Gods of the Wizard Upgrading Forum.
I'm also a little upset by the some questions raised by some of the "noobs" as you call them.
...... Also I'm as upset by some answers written by the "gods" as you call yourself.
If you want to open up your "expert" Forum, then please do, but don't expect anything better. The way you're acting now you'll will always, in any other Forum, be annoyed by the less experienced.....
Don't worry that I will join yours because, although listed as senior member, I still consider myself a 'Noob".
Credit to Dr. P. whom I consider a "God of the Wizard Upgrading Forum", he always tries, although pissed of, to answer even the silly questions.
That Mr. Molski shows the true meaning of "Gods" as you call them.
here we go again...
it looks to me that if you dont dedicate youself to this site 24/7 ,you no longer are remebered or or appriciated , among others. all every one wants is take.
people have no idea.....
ho yes.... were da hell is my paycheck from xda from this month? ehehe
regards .
lets do it...
molski any news flash on combining ur work with faria? i used faria's new rom and it's fast but found it a bit unstable and went back to urs.
thanks
o yea... which would be the best rom for my wizard? (heh srry but i couldn't resist)
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o yea... which would be the best rom for my wizard? (heh srry but i couldn't resist)
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The best will be a 1.01 Rom from your vendor
Molski
Fine … take you whining somewhere else
As you can see I'm a n00b but as I have both a Hermes, a Universal and a Wizard I tend to spend most of my time on the Universal forum checking back here on an infrequent basis and I have to say that the whining and whinging that goes on here is enough to put off anyone for life.
It seems to me that you (Molski, Dr Puttingham et al) all want the glory and adulation of being the "Gods of the Wizard" (WTF) so jump in with answers to any questions that are posted only to whinge and whine about it later. Easiest thing is don't do it, don't jump in with your smart-ass comments about how someone is too stupid to own a glorious Wizard (hey guys, reality check, it's just a freakin' phone!!!). Maybe the upgrades won't come as quick if you leave but do you really think that you're the only ones with the "gift". You might want to take a leaf out of the book of people like Pof, Memaich, LtCmdrIvan and the likes.
GOOD RIDDANCE I SAY
I don't think it's a matter of "the new guy" per se, I think it's a matter of having allowed this site's IQ to drop to half of what it was a year ago. I grant you, I'm tired of this constant, endless "HELP I BRICKED MY PHONE" bull**** too but that's only a part of it. You also have people like that asshat "__s" and the oh-so-moral-minority justifying their theft of Agile messager. They have plenty of experience flashing their phones but they're still dragging this site into oblivion and simply moving it isn't going to help. Years ago I ran a technical site (not about phones) and I ruled it with an iron fist and it worked out really well. Oh yeah, there would be the occasional hippie who would cry about "freedom of speech" and whatnot but I'm not the government, I don't give a damn about freedom of anything. If you showed up on my site with the intention of causing problems, you were gone, end of story. And THAT is what's REALLY needed, if you ask me. If you want to show up and ask how to CID unlock your phone, that's fine. If you learn and then turn around and help others, awesome! But if you show up knowing everything there is to know about PDA phones and use it to steal, insult, mislead, confuse and whatever else goes on around here, you and everything you've posted are gone. THAT is what this site needs, not just the blind dismissal of new people, and THAT is, most likely, never going to happen here which is why I'm writing this place off as a waste of time.
Edit: Heh....see above. Just had to come cry about it, I guess. Buh-bye.
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I don't think it's a matter of "the new guy" per se, I think it's a matter of having allowed this site's IQ to drop to half of what it was a year ago. I grant you, I'm tired of this constant, endless "HELP I BRICKED MY PHONE" bull**** too but that's only a part of it. You also have people like that asshat "__s" and the oh-so-moral-minority justifying their theft of Agile messager. They have plenty of experience flashing their phones but they're still dragging this site into oblivion and simply moving it isn't going to help. Years ago I ran a technical site (not about phones) and I ruled it with an iron fist and it worked out really well. Oh yeah, there would be the occasional hippie who would cry about "freedom of speech" and whatnot but I'm not the government, I don't give a damn about freedom of anything. If you showed up on my site with the intention of causing problems, you were gone, end of story. And THAT is what's REALLY needed, if you ask me. If you want to show up and ask how to CID unlock your phone, that's fine. If you learn and then turn around and help others, awesome! But if you show up knowing everything there is to know about PDA phones and use it to steal, insult, mislead, confuse and whatever else goes on around here, you and everything you've posted are gone. THAT is what this site needs, not just the blind dismissal of new people, and THAT is, most likely, never going to happen here which is why I'm writing this place off as a waste of time.
Edit: Heh....see above. Just had to come cry about it, I guess. Buh-bye.
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BRILLIANT POST!!!
XDA-Idiots.....
I'm signing off here, my financial contributions and tech troubleshooting skills will be better used in the Iron-fisted Molski Forum.
This place has become a daycare for whining brats who spend all their cash on a phone they can't afford then steal the software they want and complain when someone else won't quit their day job to help them mod their phone.
You guys can shove your Warez up your __S
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You guys can shove your Warez up your __S
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LOL (i love the pun!)
................................................. oh and wait for me Im coming!!!!!!!!
rpwood said:
As you can see I'm a n00b but as I have both a Hermes, a Universal and a Wizard I tend to spend most of my time on the Universal forum checking back here on an infrequent basis and I have to say that the whining and whinging that goes on here is enough to put off anyone for life.
It seems to me that you (Molski, Dr Puttingham et al) all want the glory and adulation of being the "Gods of the Wizard" (WTF) so jump in with answers to any questions that are posted only to whinge and whine about it later. Easiest thing is don't do it, don't jump in with your smart-ass comments about how someone is too stupid to own a glorious Wizard (hey guys, reality check, it's just a freakin' phone!!!). Maybe the upgrades won't come as quick if you leave but do you really think that you're the only ones with the "gift". You might want to take a leaf out of the book of people like Pof, Memaich, LtCmdrIvan and the likes.
GOOD RIDDANCE I SAY
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or people could take a leaf of your book and say;
f*k it...
piss off etc etc . but then it would not be any info for you to read.
Wow, dem some strong words for someone who doesn't even own a machine gun...
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Instead of getting upset at the noobies, why no just place a passage at the start of every rom you post that "I will answer no questions about this rom unless it's a design flaw of some sort..."
Or "LISTEN YOUSE PEOPLE!!! IF YOU ASK SILLY QUESTIONS LIKE - SHOULD I UNLOCK MY PHONE - DO NOT USE THIS ROM AS YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING! READ XDA FOR ABOUT A MONTH THEN COME BACK AND ASK QUESTIONS... I WILL NOT RESPOND TO SILLY QUESTIONS."
I mean come on!!! Your an expert at this. You consider yourself a Wizard god! Of course people are gonna hit you up with silly questions... Youse is the man, where else are they gonna go? To the Wizard devil? Force them to the dark side? Come Skywalker, have patience with the younglings.
dkb218 said:
Instead of getting upset at the noobies, why no just place a passage at the start of every rom you post that "I will answer no questions about this rom unless it's a design flaw of some sort..."
Or "LISTEN YOUSE PEOPLE!!! IF YOU ASK SILLY QUESTIONS LIKE - SHOULD I UNLOCK MY PHONE - DO NOT USE THIS ROM AS YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING! READ XDA FOR ABOUT A MONTH THEN COME BACK AND ASK QUESTIONS... I WILL NOT RESPOND TO SILLY QUESTIONS."
I mean come on!!! Your an expert at this. You consider yourself a Wizard god! Of course people are gonna hit you up with silly questions... Youse is the man, where else are they gonna go? To the Wizard devil? Force them to the dark side? Come Skywalker, have patience with the younglings.
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The problem is that all of this has been done. The true problem is that the noobs won't read they download the ROM's and then ask questions.
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The problem is that all of this has been done. The true problem is that the noobs won't read they download the ROM's and then ask questions.
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Then in that case, they deserve to have $400 bricks. Reading is fundamental [any one remember that commercial?]. I just joined the new forum... Since I've been here, I haven't installed a ROM unless I knew exactly what I was doing. No one to blame but myself if I messed things up...
Why did u Join XDa-Dev. I Joined Xda-Dev because i needed help with my imate sp3 it was water damaged i forgot it my trouser and my mother put them in da washing machine anyway i never got it fixed but since then i vist this site everyday. if xda-Dev did not exist i think windows mobile devices will be like a day without sunlight thats why i vist this site at least once or twice a day n datz my reason for joining and staying on xda-Dev
I wanted to look smart
I've posted this before... I wanted to look smart at the at&t forums. I would see questions posted, then come here to find the answer. Then go back and post the answer there. I 'think' I had quite a few people fooled.
Well...I was googling for ways to make my Samsung i760 better, when I had it of course, and stumbled acrossed another forum that discussed the top apps to have on a PPC. S2U2 was on the list, alot, I then came here and couldn't leave!! So, thanks A_C!!
I was a motorola modder from way back, and I wont settle for "stock" when it comes to my phones... I got an S620 and needed to mod it.
Honestly, I don't even remember.
i came searching here when i was upgrading my Hima and the power to my laptop suddenly stoped..it stucked in Bootloader for about 3 months..then i found the solution ( which was veryyyy simple )..and now..i cant move my self from the monitor and xda
defcomg said:
If xda-Dev did not exist i think windows mobile devices will be like a day without sunlight
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Same as i think
because there were good, wise people here mostly, and good rare soft... been a days..
now it is one big mess + some good info.
just almost ordinary phone/ihpone/trendy diamond forum.
this place lacks subforums for EVERY os-modable PPc/pppc devices.
htc, htc, where are subfora's for devices like hp4700(and other ones), asus, etc....
maybe it is time to think wider?
I was looking for some software and google brought me here.....since then, I almost daily visit this site and enjoy reading rather than writing.....
recomendation from friends
when my prophet got broken then my friends told me tyo visit XDA forum since then everyday visiting .
very happy to know this forum.
thanks to all.
Excuse my french (no offense if your french) , but I joined this website because it is the best god damn htc website on the net. Although there are a lot of smart asses on here.
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Well...I was googling for ways to make my Samsung i760 better, when I had it of course, and stumbled acrossed another forum that discussed the top apps to have on a PPC. S2U2 was on the list, alot, I then came here and couldn't leave!! So, thanks A_C!!
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thats how i joined and then i left it for a while. came back, got into upgrading roms and then rom development.
all off my things i have posted here(stuff in my sig) is because of A_C
oh and because i knew i was getting a wing for christmas so i had to pack my sd card with apps.
I joined for the huge amount of content already on here and the large number of very knowledgeable people able to help me with my problems.
I joined because i just bought a Kaiser and wanted the best site for info about it, and what it can do ect
well, i was searching the internet for new interfaces for my P4350 phone, when i found this site.
Now, i'm reading the forums every day, looking for new developments, themes, etc
I really like the site, and the people who develop / modify software are really doing good work.
Greetings, Chris
I forget why i joined but it was probably for some stupid reason like i needed help or something.
but i think i might have been the one that seeded the "touchflo minus cube" idea
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333240
probably not. Hopefully yes
My ppc was bloated & ran like cr#p with the OE official rom. So, I discovered this site has some great chefs prepairing excellent rom menu's in the kitchen!
Now my ppc is lean & mean!
i dont remember perfectly...but i think i just found the forum one day, registered, and thought to myself "I may use this later" and then i never went on for a long time, then finally there was wm6 being developed for the sp5, so i started going on. Since then ive stayed around now that i knew this forum was for developing and hacking.
a long time ago.. i was looking for something new... then i saw something new.. Windows mobile 6 Beta releases?... ohh. i should find them.. and Bingo.. i found here a ROM of WM6.. i decided to flash it.. but holy crap.. i f**cked up my wizard.. i was really sad.. and.. then.. i started to find how to fix it.. ..
since then im a member in xda-dev..
with my wizard...
my universal..
and now my kaiser..
(and coming soon my Touch Pro)
I joined because i wanted to learn about smartphones and this is before i had one.
I am really struggling with this phone!
Yes it looks great.. and the 3d touch flo looks great.
But the blo*dy thing is crap at doing what it is designed for... being a phone.
When trying to get it going after it has been sleeping it can take an age... totally unresponsive...
I need a phone to work properly and not just sit there and look shiny!
I have added the enhancements and am using the Elite 2.0 rom..
Cheers
the problem with TF3D disable it
or
upgrade to latest rom
Blimey last poster you really don't read things before you post your sharp responses do you?! That's at least two from you today. Seems to be quite the habit on this forum which is depressing for a new person on the block (like me).
At original poster, if what I think you mean is you want to use it to call straight away after waking it up - I share your frustration. It does seem to take a while before I can get it to call out after sleeping and I've used HTC, Elite and TLR roms and it's all the same for me.
What network are you on maybe that has something to do with it - I'm T-Mob.
another useless, whiner thread...
what's the question? now we know that u r not satisfied with the diamond. now what? what's the drama? send it back for a refund.
this is not a wall to graffiti slogans and complains.
Blimey last poster you really don't read things before you post your sharp responses do you?! That's at least two from you today. Seems to be quite the habit on this forum which is depressing for a new person on the block (like me).
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the answer fits the post like a glove....post something like the above and you'll get an answer like the above. i wonder why bother to answer? to what?
KukurikU said:
another useless, whiner thread...
what's the question? now we know that u r not satisfied with the diamond. now what? what's the drama? send it back for a refund.
this is not a wall to graffiti slogans and complains.
the answer fits the post like a glove....post something like the above and you'll get an answer like the above. i wonder why bother to answer? to what?
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What you see as useless other see as interesting and usefull.
I am thinking of buying this phone as i'm fed up with waiting for the i900 Omnia and this thread has been usefull. Now, thanks to reading this thread I am warned about slow "wake-up" of the Diamond and now more hesitant, almost to the point of not buying it.
Sadly though, you seem to judge everyone else by your own standards.
Ericsson68 was indeed trying to be helpfull by two things:
1; confirming that he too has a slow "wake-up" e.g its not he op's phone itself
2; Offering a possible explanation "What network are you on maybe that has something to do with it - I'm T-Mob. "
No one is forcing you to read these posts and no one is forcing you to write a pointless reply. It is often said by wise people (and those with friends!), if you have nothing constructive so say, don't say it.
So Erricsson and TrevorM, thanks guys! You've highlighted to me that this phone may have an issue, even with the latest roms applied, in that its slow to wake up. This is EXACTLY the reason i'm here along with many others!
KukurikU said:
another useless, whiner thread...
what's the question? now we know that u r not satisfied with the diamond. now what? what's the drama? send it back for a refund.
this is not a wall to graffiti slogans and complains.
the answer fits the post like a glove....post something like the above and you'll get an answer like the above. i wonder why bother to answer? to what?
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Dude listen the way i see it is that if you havent got anything useful to say or post then refrain from doing so. People are going to complain no matter what you or anyone else says. Like Monty says people have different ideas as to what is good for them and what isnt...fact of the matter is everytime i see you post...your always having a pop at someone who asks a question or slates the phone. Do you actually own HTC??...because sometimes your posts come across as a HTC fanboy...so what if people are saying the phone is useless/rubbish.
I'll say this about the Diamond, i love it but its hard work getting everything to run as you want it to. Personally HTC have alot to answer for, their QC testing is quite frankly crap and rubbish. They were in such a hurry to get this phone out...it seems like their engineers/designers fell asleep for a few months. The stock rom has too many niggles and problems with it, thankfully we have a place like this where we have some excellent guys who are making the Diamond a more enjoyable product due to their new roms. I swear if places like this didnt exist...HTC wouldnt be in business for much longer.
With regards to the OP, as i said before the phone is hard work...sometimes i struggle to do anything with it but i still love it. Perhaps try the TLR rom...its much faster and seems more smoother. AS for the sleeping issue??...it does take a few secs to get it back up and running but i can live with that...its not like it takes forever...well mine doesnt feel like that.
Monty Burns said:
What you see as useless other see as interesting and usefull.
I am thinking of buying this phone as i'm fed up with waiting for the i900 Omnia and this thread has been usefull. Now, thanks to reading this thread I am warned about slow "wake-up" of the Diamond and now more hesitant, almost to the point of not buying it.
Sadly though, you seem to judge everyone else by your own standards.
Ericsson68 was indeed trying to be helpfull by two things:
1; confirming that he too has a slow "wake-up" e.g its not he op's phone itself
2; Offering a possible explanation "What network are you on maybe that has something to do with it - I'm T-Mob. "
No one is forcing you to read these posts and no one is forcing you to write a pointless reply. It is often said by wise people (and those with friends!), if you have nothing constructive so say, don't say it.
So Erricsson and TrevorM, thanks guys! You've highlighted to me that this phone may have an issue, even with the latest roms applied, in that its slow to wake up. This is EXACTLY the reason i'm here along with many others!
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i gave you a hint. you didn't get it. keep on spamming.
Since when is the forum becoming a customer review of phones ?
I see already a thousand threads about the things that the Diamond does not fulfill. If you start reading them it is amazing what people whine about! "My phone does not react instantly after waking up", "My phone does not go to vibrate when I flip ip when it rings", "my phone is not the chickmagnet HTC promised it to be, I stil do not have a girlfriend" ...
So you use the title "poor performance" and then that is your strongest statement to back this up ??? nice one mate!
@Monty
Buy the phone, play with it, use it and then decide! What other people think might not always apply to you. I do not even have much issues with the battery.
If your want your phone to fly you to the bahamas then I suggest you buy yourself a plane.
This is at this moment the best phone you can buy! no doubt about it, I had the iphone for a week and then got this one. Now I only use the iphone for cutting bread on!
MisterSosa said:
This is at this moment the best phone you can buy! no doubt about it, I had the iphone for a week and then got this one. Now I only use the iphone for cutting bread on!
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OMFG iphone can cut bread!!111
Kukuirukuwuay: 1 post is hardly spamming and tbh, if thats the best most informed response you can come up ... you should maybe try the American "whatever", at least that has comedy value.
MisterSosa, it does have reviews of it and so what? Peoples(Owners reviews) and more importantly, there day-to-day comments and experiences are vital. Its these bug reports/issues/compliments/"wow look at this feature" posts that help some people decide and whats wrong with that? Like it or not HTC does not make perfect gear, if it did, there would be no need for this site. The bugs people discuss on here are read by the people who create ROM's and sometimes fixed by them. TBH, I wouldn't be suprised if there are HTC developers on this site everyday. I certainly know that Toshiba devs monitor myg900.com
I do agree with you 100% that people see phones diferently and whilst it works for one, it won't work for another. That said, to be "the best phone you can buy!" would take some doo'ing! My experience with HTC hardware (not software) is that this is unlikely to be the case purely on reliability, 10 months down the road it will probably develope hardware failures just like my previous 3 HTC phones (and that doesn't include the factory replacements). Also, "best" depends entirley on your needs. I'm still tempted to wait for the Omni as it will have a 5mp camera built in to it, something that doesn't seem to of sunk into HTC yet! Not to say I won't buy this, I like the form factor and the screen res (im used to 800x480 so this would only be a small downgrade).
However, I now consign myself to the fact that HTC phones only last at most a year and IF I buy this, it will be with that in mind.
This site in particular and similar sites do indeed help people choose there next phone - assuming they are informed enough to look for sites like this and even the OP's post is usefull. Read into it his frustration: Can you not see that his post is actually a complement? It says to me that the OP thinks its an awesome phone .... except this one really minor but pain in the arse thing, the wake-up delay.
Yes your right, i could buy it and then send it back if I don't like it (assuming the shop are going to allow me, they don't have to) but how many times am I going to do that before I get told to get stuffed by the shop(s)? Also, I may also not discover everything I need to about the phone in the two weeks, usualy accepted by shops here in the uk, that I need to and then i maybe stuffed with a phone I don't want.
This site in particular and similar sites do indeed help people choose there next phone
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wrong! this is a developer site like in:http://forum.xda-developers.com
maybe at "similar" sites you''lfind the help u need
KukurikU said:
wrong! this is a developer site like in:http://forum.xda-developers.com
maybe at "similar" sites you''lfind the help u need
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Completely and utterly wrong...this is a forum, it may very well be a developer forum but as of yet i havent heard any of the moderators in here say that we cannot give any opinions/views on what we think of the phone.
Crikey!!!
Didn't expect this kind of response.
Maybe it is useful for the DEVELOPERS to know how things are working (good or not)??
I have had any number of phones over the years - WinMo HTC, non HTC, Symbian etc. and this is the first one that I am really struggling with.
It is correct to say that it is hard work to get the equipment operating smoothly. The problem I have with that is, even after applying improved ROMS, performance enhancements, registry tweeks etc. the basic function is simply not working correctly. Why does it take so long for the phone to become ready for use?
Maybe a vanilla ROM will improve things, but then again I am left with a shiny shell which is a good phone (I may as well buy a cheap nokia!!).
I would be interested to know if other Diamond users are experiencing terrible lag, long delays and unresponsiveness..
Cheers
mobile not used for 3 hours, was lying on my desk.
press power button slide from all programs to home tab, press the phone button ... pops up immediately, dial colleague number and its dialing.
Where is the lag/delay in this story ?
ever try to close the running applications since the first time you turned it on ?
Thanks ... what ROM are you using - which enhancements have you applied?
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@MisterSosa and KukurikU
You might not be experiencing it... some are.
If you haven't got any constructive help to add why not go and join another thread? You're not being forced to read our comments but we are unfairly being forced to read yours in a thread that we want to add our experiences to in a calm and collected way.
Now kindly leave the thread so that we can DEVELOP a solution to what some of us see as a problem.
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mobile not used for 3 hours, was lying on my desk.
press power button slide from all programs to home tab, press the phone button ... pops up immediately, dial colleague number and its dialing.
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Same here
Monty Burns said:
My experience with HTC hardware (not software) is that this is unlikely to be the case purely on reliability, 10 months down the road it will probably develope hardware failures just like my previous 3 HTC phones (and that doesn't include the factory replacements).
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Sorry to hear that Monty, as you can see by my signature I have owned all manor of HTC phones and i havent had to send most of them back (admittidley the C500 had to have the rocker stick repaired on mine and my girlfriends phone but I dealt with HTC direct as orange didnt want to know and HTC were very helpful and within 5 days I had the phone back)
I don't suffer from the lag that a few people in this thread are mentioning.
Ive got a WWE Touch Diamond with Rom Version 1.37.405.1 WWE, ROM Date: 06/10/08 Radio Version 1.00.25.03 and im on tmobile UK. My TouchFLO 3D version is 1.0.1630.23.
Ive NOT applied ANY tweaks to my phone at all, no registry edits, hacks or Rom updates and my phone works without lag when trying to make a phone call.
How long does your take, in secs, from when you have pressed the power button at the top to wake the phone up to when you press the Phone button (the left phone softkey?)
Where do you experience the problem? Do you find its when you use TouchFLO 3D? Or can you goto ALL PEOPLE from the PEOPLE TAB on TouchFLO 3D and its still laggy?
Sorry to hear your having problems guys but this forum is here to help you.
Thanks .. I see you are using an uncooked rom. Have you applied any of the registry tweeks etc.?
Cheers
pedmond said:
Same here
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Same here.
Only time I've see a delay in opening the phone app so far (3 weeks) was when I received a phone call AND a txt msg almost simultaneously...just as I was trying to copy/paste some info from Opera into a reply to a previous txt msg.
DT
The Diamond has been with me ever since it was released in June, but there always seems to be this or that issues with every ROM release.
I'm considering the E71 as a replacement...but also trying to hold off on the purchase to see will the Diamond improve anytime soon.
Issues with my Diamond:
Accelerometer
Alarm sound not repeating
Memory leak
why everybody that think about changing the diamond feel the urge to announce it in a new thread that is coming to become a mess like all the same threads on the same subject? why? you are a senior member, you should know better.
i recommend you to read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415852
and afterward do what u please. no big deal...good luck!
please keep the forum clean!
I "Should"? "Senior" member doesn't mean jack as it's only post count related.
I don't see why that thread is recommended...maybe I'm missing something?
Chatbox said:
The Diamond has been with me ever since it was released in June, but there always seems to be this or that issues with every ROM release.
I'm considering the E71 as a replacement...but also trying to hold off on the purchase to see will the Diamond improve anytime soon.
Issues with my Diamond:
Accelerometer
Alarm sound not repeating
Memory leak
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and... ? This was so important that you had to open a new post?
Buy E71 and Good Bye Or maybe I should try to convince you not to do it or something
I will open a new post tomorrow saying what I've ate at lunch :]
The forum will be then definitely more readable.
100% AGREE wit KukurikU.
Simply the fact that this thread is useless, doesn't bring any information, plus the facts cited are plainly wrong in my experience.
That's all you're missing. Good bye and good luck with your new phone. The corresponding forum awaits you.
Hum...why even bother to reply to a useless thread?
Why have the urge to convince someone that your view is more correct than others?
Chatbox said:
Hum...why even bother to reply to a useless thread?
Why have the urge to convince someone that your view is more correct than others?
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Do you actually have something to say and contribute to this forum, or are you just trying to be controversial?
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Do you actually have something to say and contribute to this forum, or are you just trying to be controversial?
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"contribute" in the form of "useful information": no.
But I do have a question: With all the devices from HTC in the past, do they perform better over time, with newer ROM releases? Does HTC bother much with ROM updates even after the launch of each product? I guess I should have posted the "question" in the first post of this thread...but then again...it wouldn't be considered as useful information. Given this, it's why I'm trying to hold off my other purchase.
P.S. Not directed at anyone, but, some people on these forums just have a "I'm better than you" complex and have the urge to reply to threads saying "why start a new thread". Geez...just don't reply to it, it'll eventually be history and move itself down the list of threads. Unless you're the administrator concerning with storage issues.
i want my 2 mins back...
well I dont have a problem with the Accelerometer or the Alarm sound not repeating, and the memory leak for me stabilises at 70% and stuff works fine and fast 4 me even then... go buy you symbian device if you want and perhaps get an iphone while your at it, good luck and good bye.
Leave the guy alone!
chatbox, i too just got the E71 after having the DIamond since its release, infact i think this will be my last Windows Mobile Phone well at least till windows 7 comes out.
I got so sick & tired of every rom, having either issues, or being slow at "certain" tasks & also the fact that with WMP's you need 2-3 steps to do the same task in 1 step on say a Nokia. Also once you use hard buttons like the keyboard on E71 you'll hate touch screen keyboard were its slow & many mistakes.
I will though miss flashing roms & trying diffrent tweaks in the registery etc..etc..
But honestly its a phone & i need 3 major tasks in a phone.
Simple, Fast & stable.
If u try the E71, i promise u wont regret it bro.
I think chatbox is desperately trying to find some solution for diamond problems he is suffering from using this thread. A last try just before leaving the boat.
I dont tink that is wrong from him. After all this community forum is all about assisting each other. If he is asking for help or openion that will not mess up the forum
Senior Members... we highly appreciate your contributions to make or lives easier using diamond and making this forum the most comprehensive information / tools source all over the web however dont expect that all other members are as good as you in the know-how issue so please bear with us
Cheers
Enough!
Enough of this!