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Overclocking XDAIIi

how do I overclock the XDA IIi , I heard there is software Pocket Hack Master 2005. Is it safe to overclock the XDA IIi?

If you try it the turbo mode in the speed settings in the control panel will be unavailable. It'll be the same as standard mode. Also the max clockspeed of the gfx chip/part wil be aft 54 Mhz instead of 108 Mhz which was set by the turbo mode. The latest version does work stable but that's about it. No real speed advantage to be gained because of the above. Perhaps some battery saving but since most of the power goes to the display I don't really see the use of getting a few extra hours of standby time from this while games slow down because of CPU usage polling. For the Alpine IMHO this is just something that is overhyped and not worth the hassle it brings.

I am using xcpuscalar_v2.88 to overclock my i-mate PDA2,the max speed i was able to use is 624 MH and it is very stable and all games and apps are running ok.
You may need to shut it off b4 you use the camera.
Otherwise it is very stable and fast,also saves power as it scales down the cpu to whatever speed your want.

xcpuscalar_v2.88
Thank you

me too, working fine with 624Mhz......unlike previous v2.87 crash with my XDA IIi !

sparcle said:
If you try it the turbo mode in the speed settings in the control panel will be unavailable. It'll be the same as standard mode. Also the max clockspeed of the gfx chip/part wil be aft 54 Mhz instead of 108 Mhz which was set by the turbo mode. The latest version does work stable but that's about it. No real speed advantage to be gained because of the above. Perhaps some battery saving but since most of the power goes to the display I don't really see the use of getting a few extra hours of standby time from this while games slow down because of CPU usage polling. For the Alpine IMHO this is just something that is overhyped and not worth the hassle it brings.
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I think this is an excellent point.
I use my XDAIIi extensively for business use and was close to junking it - due to all the crashes and freezes I was suffering.
Then... I turned OFF Turbo Mode. I still use it extensively... only it doesn't crash anymore! The only problem I'm getting from time to time is needing to restart the phone via Flight Mode to be able to get a GPRS connection after using ActiveSync.
I own a licence for XCPUScalar, but haven't bothered to reinstall it or try the new version yet. I can't honestly say I've noticed any difference between Standard and Turbo Modes.
Go figure!

last stable frequency is 617 mhz .
Run mode is 247 x 2.5
Bus is 247
Lcd is 61
Memory is 123
Anyone more ?

Yeah...guess I shouldn't listen to things I read. Now my pocket PC has hard resetted.

I use v3.03 and my IIi works well upto 624Mhz. No crashes etc.... However as has been said already, the camera does not work properly with it, but if you downclock the CPU to 108Mhz then it's fine. I rarely use the camera anyway (i have a proper camera instead!!) so it's never a problem.

XCPU scaler 3.03 make my IIi hang, nothing more than that.

It shouldn't be hanging. It's more stable than previous versions i've used. Works great for me. I'd try uninstalling it, then removing any leftover files manually, then reinstall.

What's the fastest your Wizard has done?

Hi guys,
With the many available overclocking tools available, I noticed that quite a lot of people like to leave their phones on 240mgh, why is this so?
Ive done 264mgh using Omapclock and its been very stable.
Im currently using Batterystatus for overclocking, and Ive done 319mgh... way cool! The camera has no more lag time! However, 319mgh proved to be a bit unstable and I almost thought I got a bricked phone after...
anyway, Ive set my Batterystatus at 260 mgh and its been quite stable.
How about you guys, what top speed have you tried, and which one seems to be "stable" enough for daily use, and what overclocker did/do you use for this? Thanks

I regularly use my Wizard at 273MHz and it's completely stable.

Mine is overclocked at 299mhz now with batterystatus. Fast as hell. I tried one step up but it locked on boot up and had to do a hard boot.

Mine is set at 260, stable - no issues

motortrend said:
Mine is overclocked at 299mhz now with batterystatus. Fast as hell. I tried one step up but it locked on boot up and had to do a hard boot.
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Wow! 299 sounds impressive. How long have you been at it? Are you on WM6.1?

for those overclocking to close to 300mhz with Battery Status: What is your temperature like?
I leave mine at 195 with cpu scaler to keep my battery lasting a little while longer.

273 is 95% stable for me.

By Previous Wizard is only stable at 247MHz, any value higher than that will cause automatic reboot when a call is arrived.

is the energy consuption much higher when overclocking?
cauze i'm not sure if i dare to loose too much precious standby/tel time.

what are the possible ill effects of overclocking your wizard to say 221mhz? I know battery drain is likely, but how much and what else could go wrong?

It doesn't seem to change the temperature too much. But it probably raises it on average a 1 degree or 2. WiFi on the other hand increases the temperature dramatically especially if i hold it in my hand for more then 15 minutes.
S.V.I said:
for those overclocking to close to 300mhz with Battery Status: What is your temperature like?
I leave mine at 195 with cpu scaler to keep my battery lasting a little while longer.
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It's WM6. It's been at 299 for about 1.5 months now. I set batterystatus to bring it back to 195 when in suspend(off) mode and back up to 299 when it's awake. As far as battery drain I'm not too sure. Batterystatus saw a peak of 3000mw with everthing on. Not sure how accurate that is.
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Wow! 299 sounds impressive. How long have you been at it? Are you on WM6.1?
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Great Topic!
I used to use omap and batterystatus as well and keep my device at 264 and it was very stable but the roms I were using were such battery hogs...now I'm using 11.0.1.1 wwe and it's the most stable rom I've used so far....battery life is very good and so I've held off overclocking because so far it's really not slow and I dont know if overclocking will effect battery life....I'm now curious based on this thread and will run a week long test using batterystatus and post my results on friday with what ever settings I used and check to see if others have done the same so we can learn where we can comfortably overclock our devices.....

I've ran at 299mhz using BatteryStatus for at least 6 months now. Seems very stable at this speed. Although I do have the occasional soft resets which are most likely from software glitches, memory leaks and WM6.1 incompatibilities. I can also underclock as low as 95mhz and seems stable. No one has ever mentioned to me about not getting their SMS or phone calls.
The temp is reasonable at 77deg F just out of idle and around 88deg F when I'm playing a game. My battery usage seems pretty reasonable. I've always overclocked so don't have anything to compare it to. I can play games for 2-3 hours, make a couple minutes worth of phone calls throughout the day, about 20 SMSs, a quick session or two of Wifi to check emails...and still have about 30-40% remaining.

You know, I clock at 252 with omap, but when I installed batterystatus, it read at 270, even though omap still said 252. I'm confused... which is correct? and why the difference? I've since uninstalled b-status

I run my q9100 at 260mhz without any problems. I have WM6.1.

You don't have to worry about killing the battery during standby because batterystatus goes back to normal when in standby mode.

X1 overclock...

My smug friend just got his N900 up to 800mhz. And i want to get into the competition, is there any way to overclock the X1?

Sorry, the MSM720X chipset is really bad at overclocking, there's the app "nueDynamicClock" which CAN overclock but with huge issues, and small advantage...

noONExda said:
Sorry, the MSM720X chipset is really bad at overclocking, there's the app "nueDynamicClock" which CAN overclock but with huge issues, and small advantage...
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It's actually called NueOverclockTest, but you are right, it's terribly unstable and will freeze your phone 95% of the time. When it works, however, it's very nice.
No2Chem, the only developer who seems to know how to overclock the Xperia processor, dropped off the face of the earth in September 2009. My theory is that Qualcomm kidnapped him and is forcing him to use an underclocked Palm M505 as torture.

!?!
see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725290

Xperia X1 "overclock"
Ive been investigating the same situation because i would love it if my X1 ran faster to keep up with more modern smartphones out on the mark these days. So heres what ive found out thus far;
- With stock settings, the Xperia X1 cpu (im using MSM7201A 528mhz cpu) is actually underclocked to 384mhz when the battery is being used, and then further underclocked to ~225mhz when the phone idle's for 5000ms.
- However when you apply external power to the phone, the cpu core runs at its full 528mhz speed. I found these power saving techinques employed by HTC or SE or QUALCOMM to be useless, because ive been running my phone at full speed, highest voltage, and the battery life difference is un-noticable.
- Here what you should do to at least make sure your X1 is running at 528mhz (which made WM actually significantly faster) to give yourself a psuedo-overclock;
1. Download "nueDynamicClock-122-v1.3-pack.zip" which i have attached to this post. Extract, copy the contents over to your X1 and run the SETUP file from your PHONE
1b. If you get a security error, you have to install the "EnableRapi.cab" file which i have also attached
2. Once installed, the cpu frequency settings can found it you click on Starty >> Settings >> System. There is a new "processor" icon, and all the settings can be found in there.
The program is very flexible on how you and when you want your processor to run so experiment to find your best needs. I keep my processor set at a constant 528MHZ @ 1.325V and i get the best performance out of that.
Anyways hopes this helps, give some feedback if possible. CHEERS :

I have just try it and it's look to be really faster on battery !!!
I will see for power consumption and stability in some days but the first thing is impressive !
Thanks

have you noticed anything with battery consumption yet? the only changes ive noticed are the obvious, such as running/watching near 720p quality videos on battery power and multitasking the **** out of the phone. overall general performance has definately increased from my experience, and i am glad i found this tool. Couple it with the right rom and you now have one of the fastest windows mobile phones (besides HD2) on the market. YAYAYAY! xperia x1 is still useful!!!

Yes I can confirm now that the battery consumption is not different than before !!! and for the moment, no bug at all!
And the speed of the phone is definitivly better !!!
Very great !
I'm surprise to don't see more reply on this topic, this soft is a must to have !!!! My Xperia will have some nice day more

I'm gonna install it and try it as soon as I wake up tomorrow

I will try this one and see the difference.. thank you for the tip..

Thank you for your tips!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ssingh819 said:
Ive been investigating the same situation because i would love it if my X1 ran faster to keep up with more modern smartphones out on the mark these days. So heres what ive found out thus far;
- With stock settings, the Xperia X1 cpu (im using MSM7201A 528mhz cpu) is actually underclocked to 384mhz when the battery is being used, and then further underclocked to ~225mhz when the phone idle's for 5000ms.
- However when you apply external power to the phone, the cpu core runs at its full 528mhz speed. I found these power saving techinques employed by HTC or SE or QUALCOMM to be useless, because ive been running my phone at full speed, highest voltage, and the battery life difference is un-noticable.
- Here what you should do to at least make sure your X1 is running at 528mhz (which made WM actually significantly faster) to give yourself a psuedo-overclock;
1. Download "nueDynamicClock-122-v1.3-pack.zip" which i have attached to this post. Extract, copy the contents over to your X1 and run the SETUP file from your PHONE
1b. If you get a security error, you have to install the "EnableRapi.cab" file which i have also attached
2. Once installed, the cpu frequency settings can found it you click on Starty >> Settings >> System. There is a new "processor" icon, and all the settings can be found in there.
The program is very flexible on how you and when you want your processor to run so experiment to find your best needs. I keep my processor set at a constant 528MHZ @ 1.325V and i get the best performance out of that.
Anyways hopes this helps, give some feedback if possible. CHEERS :
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cheers mate works like a charm even when changing panels. everything loads faster even the coreplayer. I have X1i with the R3A rom 528MHZ @ 1.325V
everythings stable also thanks alot!

I'm quite skeptical. I'm pretty sure that the X1 is NOT underclocked when on battery power. If someone shows me before/ after benchmarks, I'll be a believer, but I think this is the placebo effect.

If overclocking works, it will also speed up the boot time, won't it?
I've tried independently on counting startup time. But I don't see different between Max Performance and Default.
Anyway, is it safe if I try it on X2?

mymailx said:
If overclocking works, it will also speed up the boot time, won't it?
I've tried independently on counting startup time. But I don't see different between Max Performance and Default.
Anyway, is it safe if I try it on X2?
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there is an option in the app which is for starting the app after the boot sequence...that should be the reason why there is no difference in boot time

to all you haters
ok first of all;
1. everyone HAS TO REMEMBER that i first ran this application on a STOCK R3A ROGERS CANADA ROM. what i reported is what i noticed, and the difference between the OS running at 384mhz and 528mhz on battery certainly isnt a "placebo" effect. You might be using a different rom, where the cook changed the cpu frequency settings himself but i certainly dont know. If you dont believe me that is underclocking issue is actually an issue, i suggest you google search the topic and check out how many hits you get.
2. The Xperia X2 is running the exact same MSM7201A 528 mhz cpu soo X2 owners should definately check to see if their cpu's are underclocked.
3. Finally i was just trying to help, i love my X1 and i want people to love their X1's too.
ENJOY EVERYONE lets keep this phone ALIVE

installing it right now...

Its amazing.

successfully overclocked x1
hi,i was able to oc my x1 to 672 mhz using the guide in the htc hd forum.try it out.the phone fell faster than ever.

great work. my phone is deffinately running faster

[Q][after accid.] bad performance ONLY when phone isn't connected to a power source

Please read this first, I'm pretty sure the problem is linked to this accident:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056606
For a short time my phone is lacking performance when it isn't connected to something (slow menu animations, snatchy performance in games etc.). Quadrant Benchmark proofs that circumstance too. Without connection my device achieves 'bout 500 points, when it is connected it gets ca. 1000 points. With "CPU Master Free" I've clocked the SGS once to 1Ghz and once to 1,2GHz. In both cases the performance gets better, but still is not as good as when the phone would be charged. Only then it really runs smooth.
I hardly expect you guys can give me another solution than sending the SGS to the repair service, 'coz imho the GPU has suffered certain damage...

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Please read this first, I'm pretty sure the problem is linked to this accident:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056606
For a short time my phone is lacking performance when it isn't connected to something (slow menu animations, snatchy performance in games etc.). Quadrant Benchmark proofs that circumstance too. Without connection my device achieves 'bout 500 points, when it is connected it gets ca. 1000 points. With "CPU Master Free" I've clocked the SGS once to 1Ghz and once to 1,2GHz. In both cases the performance gets better, but still is not as good as when the phone would be charged. Only then it really runs smooth.
I hardly expect you guys can give me another solution than sending the SGS to the repair service, 'coz imho the GPU has suffered certain damage...
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hmm, no idea about any of this so I might as well give you a bump
If I remember there was programs like SetCpu that would set different behavior on charge and no charge. But was a loong time ago. Since I have no idea what rom or kernel you use. Are you sure there is not program/setting/rom setting active that underclocks your SGS whilst not on charge?

Sorry, forgot to mention: I'm using Goatrip's ROM 1.9 with CF Kernel.
I just have a few apps installed, none of them would under- or overclock the system. And as I sad, i don't know how but for me it seems that the problem is linked to the accident. At least it's somehow related to the battery.

[Q] Request - run "heating benchmark"

Hello guys!
This is my first time posting here, so if I'm breaking any rules please let me know
Anyway, I'm looking to get a new Android device and I'm think I'm going to get the new Sony Xperia Z. The only problem is that I can't get a real device to test it (for just like 30 minutes). Anyway, I've watched a bunch of reviews and read many articles so I good to go, except for one thing - I want to know how much the phone heats when it's running at 100%.
I've already seen some threads here on XDA, but they are mostly subjective (temperatures are mentioned as warm and hot). I would like to get more objective result. If you own a Xperia Z device, you can help me - it won't take too much of your time
Anyway, here is what I'm proposing as a more objective test:
1) Download and install StabilityTest i System Tuner. You can get them in the Play Store.
2) Close all running apps. Run System Tuner. Open Settings -> Recording preferences -> Items to record and check CPU frequency and CPU temperature.
3) Go to the main menu of the System Tuner app and click icon named "Start" (upper right corner). Now the app is logging the in CPU frequency and temperature. Click on CPU icon and not your current temperature.
4) Leave System Tuner running in the background and open StabilityTest. Click on the first button (Classic Stability test). Leave it running for at least 20 minutes.
5) After at least 20 minutes have passed, you can close StabilityTest and stop recording in the System Tuner. The log will be saved on you SD card in the folder pwm/recordings. Please attach it in you post
Please post your battery percentage before you have started StabilityTest and after you've closed it. Also, please post whether you did the test with you phone on or off the charger.
Thanks!

xx77aBs said:
Hello guys!
This is my first time posting here, so if I'm breaking any rules please let me know
Anyway, I'm looking to get a new Android device and I'm think I'm going to get the new Sony Xperia Z. The only problem is that I can't get a real device to test it (for just like 30 minutes). Anyway, I've watched a bunch of reviews and read many articles so I good to go, except for one thing - I want to know how much the phone heats when it's running at 100%.
I've already seen some threads here on XDA, but they are mostly subjective (temperatures are mentioned as warm and hot). I would like to get more objective result. If you own a Xperia Z device, you can help me - it won't take too much of your time
Anyway, here is what I'm proposing as a more objective test:
1) Download and install StabilityTest i System Tuner. You can get them in the Play Store.
2) Close all running apps. Run System Tuner. Open Settings -> Recording preferences -> Items to record and check CPU frequency and CPU temperature.
3) Go to the main menu of the System Tuner app and click icon named "Start" (upper right corner). Now the app is logging the in CPU frequency and temperature. Click on CPU icon and not your current temperature.
4) Leave System Tuner running in the background and open StabilityTest. Click on the first button (Classic Stability test). Leave it running for at least 20 minutes.
5) After at least 20 minutes have passed, you can close StabilityTest and stop recording in the System Tuner. The log will be saved on you SD card in the folder pwm/recordings. Please attach it in you post
Please post your battery percentage before you have started StabilityTest and after you've closed it. Also, please post whether you did the test with you phone on or off the charger.
Thanks!
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You don't need all this benchmarks because its common sense really. I have the device, on normal operations e.g. browsing, videos etc.. it doesn't get hot, but a bit warm near the rear camera. But, if you do intensive tasks e.g. playing a game e.g. nova 3 etc.. then it gets a bit more hot, but not so much to burn your hands. This is normal because think about the horse power this phone has in a slim form factor and all the heat that gets generated without any cooling fans. Its normal but its not normal if it goes beyond the range of operations, which in my case, I have not noticed. I had a Motorola Droid the keyboard version, that device got extremely hot and it was really uncomfortable to hold.
As a user, I am very pleased with this smartphone and ofcoz it has drawbacks then again no phone is perfect. Hope this helps what you looking for without benchmarks

Rchard said:
You don't need all this benchmarks because its common sense really. I have the device, on normal operations e.g. browsing, videos etc.. it doesn't get hot, but a bit warm near the rear camera. But, if you do intensive tasks e.g. playing a game e.g. nova 3 etc.. then it gets a bit more hot, but not so much to burn your hands. This is normal because think about the horse power this phone has in a slim form factor and all the heat that gets generated without any cooling fans. Its normal but its not normal if it goes beyond the range of operations, which in my case, I have not noticed. I had a Motorola Droid the keyboard version, that device got extremely hot and it was really uncomfortable to hold.
As a user, I am very pleased with this smartphone and ofcoz it has drawbacks then again no phone is perfect. Hope this helps what you looking for without benchmarks
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Transitioning from a low end HTC Incredible S, I found it very unusual how the phone got warm by just going through the user interface.
then i ran qualcomm trepn profiler and it showed that my 1st cpu core was doing anything between 1ghz and 1.5ghz at any given time.
possibly fixed with a kernel tweak?

Rchard said:
You don't need all this benchmarks because its common sense really. I have the device, on normal operations e.g. browsing, videos etc.. it doesn't get hot, but a bit warm near the rear camera. But, if you do intensive tasks e.g. playing a game e.g. nova 3 etc.. then it gets a bit more hot, but not so much to burn your hands. This is normal because think about the horse power this phone has in a slim form factor and all the heat that gets generated without any cooling fans. Its normal but its not normal if it goes beyond the range of operations, which in my case, I have not noticed. I had a Motorola Droid the keyboard version, that device got extremely hot and it was really uncomfortable to hold.
As a user, I am very pleased with this smartphone and ofcoz it has drawbacks then again no phone is perfect. Hope this helps what you looking for without benchmarks
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It should be common sense, but I've read about Xperia Z on many pages. And some users say that it only gets warm, others say it's hot when gaming and some say that it's running too hot. Maybe some of them do have defective units, so this test would be also great for comparison between units. Can you run the test? You don't even need to run it for 20 minutes, 10 should be enough. Or if you won't/can't do the test, can you at least just check in the System Tuner if Xperia Z has CPU temperature sensor - if it doesn't have one then I can stop searching for people who own it.
P.S. Can somebody say if Xperia Z is running hotter or colder than Samsung Galaxy S2?