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Need TeleNav

Can someone with a stock Tilt give me the actual URL to get TeleNav to my phone, please. I've flashed Sleuth and that shortcut is not part of the ROM.
Paying for the service, might as well get it.
THANKS

Here's the cab file for it...

No FREE
fsecor said:
Can someone with a stock Tilt give me the actual URL to get TeleNav to my phone, please. I've flashed Sleuth and that shortcut is not part of the ROM.
Paying for the service, might as well get it.
THANKS
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After reading your post...I made the call....5:45pm ET
It's not free
$9.99 a month for unlimited routes

dwny said:
After reading your post...I made the call....5:45pm ET
It's not free
$9.99 a month for unlimited routes
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Thanks Kyphur for the cab. I'll load it up next.
Understand it's not free (see my post). Had the little external unit for my 8525, and the 9.99 on my bill.
Will now have it internal and continue paying the 9.99.
Thanks again, guys.

You could also drop TeleNav & load up TomTom. North American/Canada map is about $110 which gives you a 1yr payback time. I'd certainly try the taster edition (comes with free local map of your choice) to get a good comparison between the two. In fact, it would sure be nice if somebody reviewed the two and posted their thoughts

I am not sure about TelNav but TomTom is the BOMB! I truly love it and I did buy the NA/Canada map after using the free one.

Telenav vs. TomTom - dumb question
I have Telenav on my AT&T Tilt - paying the $9.99/month. Does the Tilt support TomTom?

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You could also drop TeleNav & load up TomTom. North American/Canada map is about $110 which gives you a 1yr payback time. I'd certainly try the taster edition (comes with free local map of your choice) to get a good comparison between the two. In fact, it would sure be nice if somebody reviewed the two and posted their thoughts
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I have used them both... telenav works great, and its really cool that you can set up your destinations online and the new version does traffic, and it runs very well on the Kaiser.... HOWEVER what i dont like about telenav is that is has to download while you are on the move... I would hate to travel out of a service area and not be able to navigate... This is the reason i will always be loyal to other ones such as tomtom or iguidance, etc... and tomtom works great on the kaiser, i have no complaints with it whatsoever..

TomTom on Tilt
After reading your response above, I went to the TomTom site and from what I could find, they do not support the HTC 8925 - something to do with their relationship with HTC which limits their use on only certain HTC devices.
My specific question for those Tilt owners who are using TomTom is - does it use the built in GPS receiver or is TomTom calculating position by triangulating with cell towers (or something like that)?
Bill

It is using the GPS. Suggest your read this thread.

odie3 said:
It is using the GPS. Suggest your read this thread.
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Thanks. Yes - I had seen that thread but I wasn't sure after reading it that TomTom actually worked on the Tilt without any hacks.
I'm not too satisfied with Telenav and wouldn't mind installing TomTom to test it. Is there a way to do so with out first signing up - like a trial period? I wouldn't mind issuing a thread about the difference between the two (I also have an in-dash unit so I can compare the functionality of PDA GPS to in-dash units as well).
Bill

okay, to inquire further, I called Tom Tom and found that:
1. They do not "specifically" support the AT&T tilt (HTC8925). They do show support for the HTC TyTN II surprisingly. I guess I have to assume that if they support the other HTC, their software will function on the AT&T tilt.
2. unfortunately, they do not have a trial period so there is no way of testing their software directly. I guess the only way to do so is to install the Tom Tom File mentioned earlier.
from the previous post I guess it is possible to have both the Telenav software and the TomTom software on the phone without any problem. I guess I will have to check that.

You can load the teaser version (this is their trial version btw) to test w/o issues (there's a link to it on page 1 of my ROM thread: click "kaiser ROM" on my sig to go there). Their trial software doesn't expire; rather it limits the geographical area that the software will function by virtue of the installed maps. In this vein, it will allow you to download a map of your local area and you can play with it. All features such as traffic updates are fully functional. If you like the software, then merely purchase the full America/Canada map.
To obtain fast fixes, be sure to run QuickGPS on a regular basis (fix data is valid for 7 days). When you're within the valid data timeframe, TomTom will acquire a fix in about 30-45 seconds. This is one of the properties of aGPS by the way: obtaining initial position OTA.

ok... let me answer some of this to give you a clearer picture, if not there will be some n00b bashing that will go on and i would like to prevent that...
TomTom will work fine with no hacks on the tilt.
The tilt, tytn II, kaiser, etc are all the same device.
They dont claim support on the tilt because of AT&T exclusive relationship with telenav.
Now this i could be wrong on but you should be able to install the TOMTOM taster file which is located in this forum and on our FTP server and when it goes to load a map will give you the button for voucher, this should let you download 1 free city map.

HOWEVER what i dont like about telenav is that is has to download while you are on the move... I would hate to travel out of a service area and not be able to navigate...
I have traveled out of coverage and it still worked. it just didn't give turn by turn voice but it still tracked via the gps on the maps and showed were i was going. i guess you would have to loos cell service for a long time for it to take effect. I to also like you can go on the web real quick and enter in an address and just go. thats nice when you have multiple places to go that day and you just type them all in make things easy when you are in sales driving everywhere. I hope soon they will have the teletraffic for the kaiser to get the traffic updates.

i don't have Tom Tom but i'm happy with Telenav. you can get a 1yr subscription for $99. another Telenav advantage is that maps are updated regularly. with Tom Tom you have to wait for next software version.

I have both Telenav and TomTom. I absolutely love the traffic feature on telenav. Very accurate to the minute and detailed. Traffic updates on TomTom always seem outdated

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I hope soon they will have the teletraffic for the kaiser to get the traffic updates.
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Uhm, they do have traffic updates.

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I have both Telenav and TomTom. I absolutely love the traffic feature on telenav. Very accurate to the minute and detailed. Traffic updates on TomTom always seem outdated
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you must live within the city or at least very near to it. Traffic updates really don't mean much to people outside of big cities since nobody is keeping track of the traffic situations on urban roads. I once subscribed to XM traffic and found that it was only useful in and around Philadelphia (I live 35 miles southwest of Philadelphia). I am finding the same thing true with Telenav.

shogunmark said:
ok... let me answer some of this to give you a clearer picture, if not there will be some n00b bashing that will go on and i would like to prevent that...
I want to thank you and sleuth255 for your help this past weekend in getting me started with TomTom. I have it loaded and functional and so far I seem to enjoy it more so than TeleNav.
Bill
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Non Internet Maps, MS streets & trips??

I'm trying to find a map that doesn't need a data connection to use like google maps or live search does for gps, i have microsoft streets and trips 2005 for desktop, which comes w/a ppc version, but i cant seem to get it to work, one thing is when i install it, it says it's ment for an older version of window mobile and may not work correctly, don't know if it will or not, but another is it says i have to export the map, and i cant figure out how to do that, anyone have any ideas or recommend a cheap/free map to use w/gps w/o needing a data feed?

You could get tomtom navigator, iGuidance, or any other number of software packages.
My question is why don't you have data? Is is because you're out of range or because you don't pay for it as part of your plan? My opinion is that if you're going to dump all the money on a kaiser, you shouldn't stop at the data plan. It's like buying a sports car but refusing to buy gas. The kaiser is a connected device.

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You could get tomtom navigator, iGuidance, or any other number of software packages.
My question is why don't you have data? Is is because you're out of range or because you don't pay for it as part of your plan? My opinion is that if you're going to dump all the money on a kaiser, you shouldn't stop at the data plan. It's like buying a sports car but refusing to buy gas. The kaiser is a connected device.
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I dont really need anything expensive like tomtom, i'd only use it when i cant get a data connection, sometimes i'm way out in BFE and cant get google maps or live search, which is why i'm trying to make ms streets and trips work if i can.

I'm also interested in this, but its harder for me since there aren't many maps for my country (I live in Brazil). Also, 3G networks are only starting to appear now, so data plans are way too expensive. I've been using smart2go with cached data so far, but its not very pratical, and I'm not very fond of that software.

GPS without 3G/edge?

i bought a tilt yesterday and it is my first smartphone. I already flashed it to Dutty's v1.1. With my plan i rely on wifi so i didnt get any data plan.
Without 3g, edge, gprs how can i get GPS to work with my TILT that doesnt cost money?
Anyone want to help a noobout?? If you could teach me some stuff PM!!!

GPS does not cost money because it doesn't uses GPRS/EDGES etc - unless you install and run QuickGPS (or similar). GPS is only receiving freely available satellite info
QuickGPS is a service that helps the GPS unit get its first fix quicker and this uses the internet and hence GPRS/EDGE - but it is optional, so if you are prepared to wait a minute of two to get a good GPS fix, then GPS will not cost you a penny.

how do you get the free gps though?

Could you elaborate a bit? What do you mean by "how do you get the free gps though?". Because as Weasel said, GPS IS Free. Do you mean how do you get free software (i.e. TOMTOM)?

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how do you get the free gps though?
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You already have it, in form of your GPS receiver in your device. If you are wondering how you can get programs/maps to run your GPS with, well there is really just one option for you:
Buy some software! The market is flooded with GPS software, to name a few:
TomTom
iGo
Garmin XT
Destinator
MioMap
and so on...
If you had a data plan, you could use Google Maps in combination with your GPS (google maps is free).
Alternatively, if you are more about using your GPS functionality for hiking, off-road travel,... then I recommend:
GPSTuner 5.2 (excellent software for off-road)
Track-Me (You get this in the Kaiser > Kaiser forum. Great piece of software, and so far it's free)
Either way, you'll need software to make use of the hardware.
Hope this helps a bit.
H.

A good free option would be MGMaps, which uses stored maps and doesn't need to transfer data (however it can do it if you wish).

i guess what im trying to say is, Where can i download "MAPs" or the software that has maps for free.
I tried using googlemaps, but i can only use it when im in a wifi area lol

GPS

Ive searched but i cant find, is therre any ''free'' software that will give you turn by turn direction like turn left here turn right here, my girl has a blackberry and she has a program for the blackberry. I was just wondering if the att tilt has a program like this , i know about google maps and windows live but i dont think they have that feature.

Nope. Google Maps and Windows Live show you directions for free, but don't announce it, and it utilizes your data connection.
There's Telenav if you have AT&T as your wireless provider, 5.99 for 10 routes or 9.99 IIRC for unlimited routes. Or there are programs that you can pay for that will allow this feature without data transfer as it loads your maps on a memory card: Garmin, iGuidance, and TomTom Navigator to name a few. However, prices range from $100-$200.

Windows Live Search does have turn by turn directions. I don't think they're read out loud, but they do have them. If I recall correctly, you are notified by a beep when a turn is coming up. HTH.

TomTom Taser Edition Does Turn by Turn. You get one free Mini-map if you want more you have to buy them, Which is fair If you ask me.
Search around for the TomTom Threads. Or Check out the HTC Kaiser Wiki.

Simple Problem...(I guess)

Ok, I have never used the GPS feature on my Kaiser(Once a Tilt) till now. I have never needed to cause I didnt have a data plan. I used the routers at school and my house for internet. I got TT7 and I got a data plan cause TomTom is amazing. My GPS doesnt like to work. TomTom says their is no Device Detected. QuickGPS fails. The HTC GPS tool fails.....how can i troubleshoot my gps? Just a point in the right direction would help. (FWI, HD_III_OPAL WWE, 1.65.24.36)

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....my Kaiser(Once a Tilt)
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What does that mean? Have you added a camera and changed the case as well as the ROM?
QuickGPS fails. The HTC GPS tool fails.....how can i troubleshoot my gps?
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Fails in what way? The TyTN II I have, works ok with the version of Tomtom Navigator it came with but as TTN 7 isn't officially released (yet?) as an upgrade, all I can suggest is to go back to basics, perhaps trying the setup on my TyTN II in my sig. Otherwise maybe someone who's used TTN 7 on the TyTN II can advise you. Do a search in the Kaiser software forum, there were lots of GPS related posts in there.

I got it to work, my GPS settings were incorrect. Yea and TT7 works...I just downloaded the one free map that was close by, if I need to go anywhere else I will copy the maps from my "Official SD Map Card"
*edit* quick question...is gps on kaiser free?

DemoShadow said:
I got it to work, my GPS settings were incorrect. Yea and TT7 works...I just downloaded the one free map that was close by, if I need to go anywhere else I will copy the maps from my "Official SD Map Card"
*edit* quick question...is gps on kaiser free?
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if your set has an inbuilt GPS reciever then it should be free irrespective of what plan you have ...except for whatever you need to shell out to buy the gps software and maps...

DemoShadow said:
I*edit* quick question...is gps on kaiser free?
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It depends which Kaiser and where it was bought. The HTC Original TyTN II sold here in the UK came with TTN 6.032 on CDROM in the box but just like with the version you have it only allowed free download of one 'city' map. Any additional maps had to be bought and the number that went with the map could only be used on that device.

DemoShadow said:
*edit* quick question...is gps on kaiser free?
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The Kaiser's GPS receiver is integrated in the phone and doesn't need anything network-related to function (so yes, it's free in itself). It will give any program that wants it the current position, speed, heading etc of the phone.
I.e. there was no point in you "not using the GPS because you didn't have a data plan".
Then what might require a data plan or paying something is the program in question. There are 2 types of programs, those like Google maps or MS Live that are free to download and use, but DO need a data connection as they will download the map data from the net on request while navigating.
The other type like TomTom, MioMap etc do NOT need data as they store the entire maps locally on the memory card, however they are payware so you have to buy them in the first place.