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I live in Canada and have a Fido SIM card. When Rogers and Fido merged, the old Fido network ID (302-370) was made defunct so that the only GSM network available is the Rogers one (302-720).
As I am a Fido customer, it means that my Kaiser believes that it is always roaming as 302-370 is my home network and I can't use the roaming-based data rules to manage my data charges when I'm truly roaming.
Is there a way to add 302-720 as a "home network" as far as the Kaiser is concerned? Is this defined in the registry or in the ROM?
I am currently using the stock HTC ROM.
Thanks.
Its defined on the Sim card, just call Rogers and tell them what happened, and Im sure that they'll send you a new card with 302-720 as a home network.
Otherwise, I dont wanna be a Canadian Idiot! (LOL at Wierd Al for his song...)
Eh?
I've been in touch with both the regular customer service people and their "network people". They are either unable or unwilling to make that change for me. It is possible that they use the SIM's home network as a key to decide which back-end database they reference. Although they merged the two GSM networks, they still operate as two separate companies (apart from the price collusion, of course).
Yesterday, I even bought a new latest-generation SIM card to replace my ancient one thinking that it may fix the problem. No luck - it still uses the Fido network id.
So, as the SIM card is stuck the way it is, I need a way to override my Kaiser's opinion that the Rogers network is a roaming one.
I have a really similar problem, plus another one which might be related.
I am in the UK and on the "Three" network, they are mainly a 3G network and i'm not sure but they might not have 'any' 2G transmitters. So when I have 3G coverage there is no roaming icon and everything works fine.
If however I am in a 2G area and using their roaming partner (not sure who yet, possibly Orange) the GPRS will not work unless I go in and tell the phone to search for a network automatically then make a connection straight away. It says there is GPRS signal and connects but I can't actually transfer any data. The GSM standard phone calls and TXT messages work fine without doing that.
If anyone does have an answer on how to add additional home networks I would be gratefull to know too.
I have the same problem with Fido; however, when I put my SIM into a Samsung Jack flashed with Fido ROM, the roaming problem is gone. The Samsung Jack was from Rogers. This leads me to believe that the roaming is somehow set by the ROM.
I don't believe there is anyway you are going to be able to make the Rogers network not think you are a Rogers customer through a registry hack.
Maybe you can find a work around by using those dialing rules?
And the only real fix is to bite the bullet and switch over to a Rogers contract.
Switching over to Rogers will resolve the roaming issue and will finally be rid of the text from 18 for voicemail; however, I don't want to lose my old City Fido plan.
i also face same problem any solution guy's ?
Hi,
I have an Att tilt (stock) and at work I loose phone signal.
I had a similar issue with my sprint phone and phone service. When the setting for “roaming or sprint network” was set to “automatic” I would loose signal all the time. Instead for the phone locking into the roaming stronger signal (Alltel) would try to lock into the sprint weak signal all day (going in and out resulting in lost calls). When I had that setting to “roaming only” it would lock into alltell (the stronger signal) with 5 bars.
On the tilt when I go to phone/settings/network the only option is “find network” and that option looks for att and not anything else. Is there a way to force my att tilt to roam only and therefore lock to the alltel network (very strong signal)? Or expose all the available networks and choose which one I want to lock in?
Thanks for all the help, this is a great forum
cannot locate different networks
im having the same problem. phone has bad at&t signal. I cannot locate a diferent network.
Forcing roaming with tilt
I guess the question is…Is there a way to force roaming only in a stock att tilt?
Thanks,
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Anyone?
Thanks for the help
Bump again....I want to know the same thing. I have free roaming, but I can't get it to roam.
PRL file
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Does the phrase “PRL file” provide any help?
Is this an editable file that can solve the issue?
Thanks
jreed012 said:
Bump again....I want to know the same thing. I have free roaming, but I can't get it to roam.
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I'd like manual n etwork selection as well, but you may be roaming and not know it. AT&T sets up all their phones so it looks like you are on your native network, even when you're not. I had bypassed this and enabled manual network search on all my Motorola phones, I'd like to do the same here with my Tilt.
-Jay
i suggest setting the band in settings/phone to wcdma. Try it.
SH4YD33 said:
i suggest setting the band in settings/phone to wcdma. Try it.
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I don't have that setting. AT&T removed it. In 3G mode the field test doesn't do much. In GSM mode it seems to work well.
-Jay
SH4YD33 said:
i suggest setting the band in settings/phone to wcdma. Try it.
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The stock HTC ROM allows this, but it didn't seem to do anything. I know because the ATT HSDPA network is available at my house (barely), and when I lose it it switches to a full signal Edge.
But! If I switch to GSM it seems to lock to the much better Edge signal at my house instead of the HSDPA. That works for me, but will it limit my signal elsewhere?
I had the same problem....the network found was AT&T all the time and no signal, so I place the Sim in a friends Nokia with manual network selection and choose T-MOBILE, place it back in my tilt...problem solved !!
Note: I'm an international user, only use roaming when in USA. But this may help you guys !
I don't know why my roaming icon is on?
I'm on Fido in Canada... and I'm in Canada right now, but I don't know why my roaming icon is still on? (The inverted triangle)
Because the X1a is an official USA phone. I have my roaming icon all the time with my HTC TyTN II. My X1a will be delivered 01/19.
Actually, it's because Fido uses Roger's towers now, but the companies are still identified separately and therefore it thinks you're roaming.
I have a Fuze and have been trying without success to disable the roaming icon using the posted registry changes.
ic.
this may sound dumb, but we won't get roaming charges right?
I have the exact same problem and I'm using Fido as well~ Looks like need to swtich to rogers sometime~ Thanks for the info~
jchu said:
ic.
this may sound dumb, but we won't get roaming charges right?
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As long as your phone says Fido, you're not actually roaming and will not get charged roaming fees.
Got my X1a 2 days ago and it shows the roaming icon. Don't worry about it.
Is there a way to get rid of this icon on a SE X1?
I have the same problems (Telfort NL uses KPNs network).
When I'm going abroad I always get a text message saying I will be charged extra for roaming so the roaming icon has no use for me.
I have the Same problem. Im on Fido but I have a an unlocked x1i.
And all my received texts are time stamped -3 hours, anyone else getting that?
ReMix56 said:
I have the Same problem. Im on Fido but I have a an unlocked x1i.
And all my received texts are time stamped -3 hours, anyone else getting that?
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To fix the time stamp, you need to apply a registry fix
Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\PhoneSetting\
Add a dword key “TrustTimeZoneField” and give it a dword value of 0
then soft reset your phone.
Thanks for the info xda_fanboy. Can you recommend me a registry editor? Im new to modding the OS.
Also, is anyone finding the data connection on Fido really dodgy?? I just got a data plan a few days ago, and sometimes get access for half a day.
Thanks.
ReMix56 said:
Thanks for the info xda_fanboy. Can you recommend me a registry editor? Im new to modding the OS.
Also, is anyone finding the data connection on Fido really dodgy?? I just got a data plan a few days ago, and sometimes get access for half a day.
Thanks.
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Total Commander is free. http://www.ghisler.com/
Data is fine for me. No real issues to speak of.
anyone find a fix to the roaming issue?
Sadly I have never heard of a possibility to deactivate the roaming icon. There is a way to suppress the warning before sending an sms when you are abroad but not for the icon. Or at least I don't know how to do it.
I have the Diamond from the Rogers network in Canada. It is SIM unlocked and constantly flashed with a variety of different ROMs. I am on the Fido network in Canada, which was purchased by the Rogers network. Ever since Rogers bought Fido, every phone I put my SIM in shows roaming.
Fido has been no help in solving the roaming problem. I have gone through this and many forums and have not found a solution to this problem.
Many individuals have claimed that this is not possible and that it is defined by the network; however, I think the Windows Mobile OS can be tricked to thinking that it is on the home network, due to the following: I have a Samsung SGH-i616 originally from the Rogers network. I have SIM unlocked it and flashed it with the Fido Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM. This phone does not show that it is roaming. Everything works like it is on the home network for this phone.
I am willing to give US$100 to whoever could make a CAB or something that will trick the phone into thinking that it is not roaming. The fix should not just hide the roaming icon. It should make the phone work as if it was on a home network.
Who is willing to solve this problem and claim the fabulous reward???
Everyone that uses an HTC device with Fido suffers from this problem. I know that people on the Telfort network suffer from this roaming problem too. Surely, I am not the only one that has been severely annoyed by this right?
Dude, have a look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=503131&highlight=roaming see if that helps.
Thanks for the tip. Have looked into the thread before. Does not offer any help in defining a network as a home network.
If it helps in fixing my problem, all the files on my Samsung i616 (RILGSM.Dll files and such) are at their disposal.
try this (just throwing it out there)
hklm\software\microsoft\mds\cebits\roaming and set it to zero
i see some other registry settings but they do not look like they could be applicable.
Didn't have a registry entry there. Created a new dword called Roaming with value of 0. Rebooted my phone. Still the same. Roaming
Have you tried that other app No Data mentioned in that previous post?
Tried the No Data app. Does not trick phone into thinking it is not roaming. It disables data when roaming. Since my phone thinks it is roaming all the time, it successfully turns off data in my home network.
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I have the Diamond from the Rogers network in Canada. It is SIM unlocked and constantly flashed with a variety of different ROMs. I am on the Fido network in Canada, which was purchased by the Rogers network. Ever since Rogers bought Fido, every phone I put my SIM in shows roaming.
Fido has been no help in solving the roaming problem. I have gone through this and many forums and have not found a solution to this problem.
Many individuals have claimed that this is not possible and that it is defined by the network; however, I think the Windows Mobile OS can be tricked to thinking that it is on the home network, due to the following: I have a Samsung SGH-i616 originally from the Rogers network. I have SIM unlocked it and flashed it with the Fido Windows Mobile 6.1 update. This phone does not show that it is roaming. Everything works like it is on the home network for this phone.
I am willing to give US$100 to whoever could make a CAB or something that will trick the phone into thinking that it is not roaming. The fix should not just hide the roaming icon. It should make the phone work as if it was on a home network.
Who is willing to solve this problem and claim the fabulous reward???
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How would you like to pay ?
WU or Paypall !!!
If you are able to solve my problem, I will pay you in any method you prefer. PayPal or Western Union is fine by me. Heck, I'll even put dollar bills in an envelope and post it to you if you prefer
A friend of mine is suffering from the same problem and is willing to give $25 to have the problem solved. So the reward is now $125.
If anyone else is having this problem, please put forward your pledge so that an enterprising developer can fix this issue and claim the large bounty.
I was looking for the EXACT same thing and I guess it means there's no solution?
Like you, I'm a Fido customer using a Rogers smartphone (Touch) and it always shows I'm roaming ... some programs can get around it, others cannot, and I get asked "Do you want to enable data connection when roaming? It may cost you." every time.
I'm also having the same problem. It's quite common in Norway, where a couple of big companies own the networks and the other providers "roam" in their network. Annoying.
Maybe you should contact Rogers to get a SIM card of them? Since Rogers bought Fido, so maybe you should get a Rogers card?
I am also having a roaming issue. I have nation wide coverage but when I get out of the state of Wisconsin, I start roaming. I get warnings about I am roaming and additional charges may apply when I open, send, or receive on email, internet, youtube, facebook ... pretty much anything data. I have an unlimited data plan so this shouldn't be an issue? I have nation wide coverage...
Gah! How to disable these warnings? Some adv. config / tweak program or registry edit?
Cybot12999 said:
Maybe you should contact Rogers to get a SIM card of them? Since Rogers bought Fido, so maybe you should get a Rogers card?
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Can't put a Rogers SIM on the Fido network. Will get a validation error.
Does anybody have any input on how to get this issue fixed. I am very close to canceling my contract with my carrier over this problem
Same Trouble here in Montreal with my Rogers Diamond Phone (unlocked) and SIM fido.
ALWAYS ROAMING Grrrr
And I can't setup e-mail correctly and no home network to!
KaNiMziE
I also have recently activated an HTC Diamond on Fido, and constantly have the roaming icon above. It doesn't really bother me at all, however, I am just concerned about actual roaming charged. Roaming should be defined by the cell towers, correct? So, even though it displays a roaming icon, I am not really roaming at home, and therefore, will not be charged. Could anyone confirm?
Hi,
Have a big problem in that whenever I put a rom on my new Tilt 2 (which I am running on the new HSPA Bell network). My phone thinks it is roaming.
This is a real pain and I can't seem to find away around the problem.
Please can somebody think of something I might be missing?
Thanks!!
pcuz said:
Hi,
Have a big problem in that whenever I put a rom on my new Tilt 2 (which I am running on the new HSPA Bell network). My phone thinks it is roaming.
This is a real pain and I can't seem to find away around the problem.
Please can somebody think of something I might be missing?
Thanks!!
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Test a few radios and see what happens
smokestack76 said:
Test a few radios and see what happens
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Ok will give that a try. Do I have to change th rilphone.dll as well?
No i never have and they flash just fine
smokestack76 said:
No i never have and they flash just fine
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Thanks I will give it a go and let you know how I get on.
pcuz said:
Thanks I will give it a go and let you know how I get on.
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Ok so tried a bunch of different radios but still get the same problem.
Any ideas folks??
pcuz said:
Hi,
Have a big problem in that whenever I put a rom on my new Tilt 2 (which I am running on the new HSPA Bell network). My phone thinks it is roaming.
This is a real pain and I can't seem to find away around the problem.
Please can somebody think of something I might be missing?
Thanks!!
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Are you sure its roaming and not mistaken the icon for something else? Also, if you are indeed roaming, which network is it? AFAIK, in ON, there's only 2 HSPA network Rogers/Fido or Bell/Telus. Who is your provider?
mikron15 said:
Are you sure its roaming and not mistaken the icon for something else? Also, if you are indeed roaming, which network is it? AFAIK, in ON, there's only 2 HSPA network Rogers/Fido or Bell/Telus. Who is your provider?
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So I have the icon telling me that I am roaming and all the application warn me before they download data that I am roaming as well (which is a right pain!!).
I am on the new Bell HSPA network.
Any ideas?
roaming..
ok .. this is my experience about this problem ..
first my home base is Netherlands ! and im using Telfort network on my nokia .. buat the last 3 year .. Telfort using KPN Network .. if you turn ON the phone .. it will display Telfort .. but a few second it will change to KPN ...
maybe.. your operator also using another network...
if I put my Telfort sim to TP2 it will display Telfort but with with ROAMING icon !!!
cheers
indra9110
indra9110 said:
ok .. this is my experience about this problem ..
first my home base is Netherlands ! and im using Telfort network on my nokia .. buat the last 3 year .. Telfort using KPN Network .. if you turn ON the phone .. it will display Telfort .. but a few second it will change to KPN ...
maybe.. your operator also using another network...
if I put my Telfort sim to TP2 it will display Telfort but with with ROAMING icon !!!
cheers
indra9110
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Bell have their own network here so I dont think that could be the problem. I also have a Omnia 2 and an Iphone 3Gs that dont have this problem.
Also just tried to manually join the Rogers network and as I thought it would not let me connect.
It is only on the tilt2 after I flashed a new ROM onto it.
Thanks for the idea though.
Anybody else?
pcuz said:
Bell have their own network here so I dont think that could be the problem. I also have a Omnia 2 and an Iphone 3Gs that dont have this problem.
It is only on the tilt2 after I flashed a new ROM onto it.
Thanks for the idea though.
Anybody else?
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EDIT: read this first and then try the following suggestion
Try setting in the TP2 band selection to only HSPA and see what happens. Since bell has no GSM, and if your phone is set to 2G mode only, it's falling back on Rogers/Fido, hence, the roaming.
Start>>Settings>>Personal>>Phone>> Goto "Band" tab>>Set the GSM/UMTS band to "GSM (1900+850) + UMTS(1900+850).
Play around with the Network type by switching to GSM only or CDMA or leave it on Auto.
FYI Rogers/Fido and Bell/Telus HSPA network runs on 850/1900 band.
Food for thought....
Also another thing to consider, considering that Bell/Telus HSPA network is new, I thought i read somewhere you have to get your device "added" to their new HSPA system. Right now, only new sign-up's gets on the new HSPA network. In other words, your phone is trying to get on Bell HSPA network, but Bell rejects it since it's not in their system, so your phone hop's onto next on the list, either roaming on Rogers HSPA or Rogers GSM.
P.S: You might find better response over here
mikron15 said:
EDIT: read this first and then try the following suggestion
Try setting in the TP2 band selection to only HSPA and see what happens. Since bell has no GSM, and if your phone is set to 2G mode only, it's falling back on Rogers/Fido, hence, the roaming.
Start>>Settings>>Personal>>Phone>> Goto "Band" tab>>Set the GSM/UMTS band to "GSM (1900+850) + UMTS(1900+850).
Play around with the Network type by switching to GSM only or CDMA or leave it on Auto.
FYI Rogers/Fido and Bell/Telus HSPA network runs on 850/1900 band.
Food for thought....
Also another thing to consider, considering that Bell/Telus HSPA network is new, I thought i read somewhere you have to get your device "added" to their new HSPA system. Right now, only new sign-up's gets on the new HSPA network. In other words, your phone is trying to get on Bell HSPA network, but Bell rejects it since it's not in their system, so your phone hop's onto next on the list, either roaming on Rogers HSPA or Rogers GSM.
P.S: You might find better response over here
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Thanks for the detailed response.
I dont think I am on the Rogers network as I get the Bell operator logo appear and the phone stays on 3G (as I cant drop to Edge because Bell dont have it on their network).
Also checking my online billing from the past few days I would expect to see some nasty roaming charges which I dont have.
Finally I also have a Jailbroken Iphone and that works on the network fine without any problems.
Its just very weird!!
Just tried to connect to the Rogers network manually and it will not let me connect. So it must be something wierd on the device.
Oh, it does show Bell operator logo. I thought the phone was registering on another entwork other than Bell.
Hmm, since you are not incuring roaming charges, only thing I can think of, is the network list that comes within the ROM classifies Bell as CDMA and not updated to reflect it supports HSPA. So it reads the network id as Bell and network type as HSPA and thinks its roaming? I dunno, i could be wrong lol! ::shrugs::
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Oh, it does show Bell operator logo. I thought the phone was registering on another entwork other than Bell.
Hmm, since you are not incuring roaming charges, only thing I can think of, is the network list that comes within the ROM classifies Bell as CDMA and not updated to reflect it supports HSPA. So it reads the network id as Bell and network type as HSPA and thinks its roaming? I dunno, i could be wrong lol! ::shrugs::
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Make sense to me
I guess I can live with it if I need to. Does anybody know of a way to force the device not to flag any messages about roaming?
At least that will make it less annoying.