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WM6 ROM: Anybody having the "roaming" issue?

Hello all,
I have the WM6 rom and I seem to be having this annoying little problem where the phone tells me that I'm roaming even though I'm in an area where I know from past experience I shouldn't be roaming
In fact, I can receive calls just fine with no warning messages telling me that I'm roaming or whatever.
This ONLY occurs when I'm using activesync for push e-mail with mail2web.
Why is this happening?
Also when I'm setting up the push e-mail I can't seem to enter "ad2" for mail2web... the field is dimmed and I can't type anything on it.
I don't recall having this issue when I was using the WM5... what gives?
I know thta I can set it up so that I won't have warnings but I'm worried because what if I am indeed roaming?
Then I would surely be charged for my uses.
Could this possibly be because I'm on the US T-Mobile network and this ROM in no way has anything to do with US T-Mobile?
Is anyone else having this issue?

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It is because you have a rom that is not carrier specfic it reads roams all the time on any network

sandrobber said:
It is because you have a rom that is not carrier specfic it reads roams all the time on any network
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I seriously doubt that...
Sounds like just another weird issue with this PRERELEASE crossbow rom

sandrobber said:
It is because you have a rom that is not carrier specfic it reads roams all the time on any network
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Uhhh... Are you quite sure of your facts there Sandrobber? If so, then that must be new to WM6, as I have a non carrier specific WM5 ROM and I don't get that problem....

Well I would bet that he was just speculating since he posed on the form of a question.

shnjb said:
Hello all,
I have the WM6 rom and I seem to be having this annoying little problem where the phone tells me that I'm roaming even though I'm in an area where I know from past experience I shouldn't be roaming
In fact, I can receive calls just fine with no warning messages telling me that I'm roaming or whatever.
This ONLY occurs when I'm using activesync for push e-mail with mail2web.
Why is this happening?
Also when I'm setting up the push e-mail I can't seem to enter "ad2" for mail2web... the field is dimmed and I can't type anything on it.
I don't recall having this issue when I was using the WM5... what gives?
I know thta I can set it up so that I won't have warnings but I'm worried because what if I am indeed roaming?
Then I would surely be charged for my uses.
Could this possibly be because I'm on the US T-Mobile network and this ROM in no way has anything to do with US T-Mobile?
Is anyone else having this issue?
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It was there in WM5 long time ago, which is no bug at all. If you don't like the roaming prompt, just go to activesync->schedularing->check "using it during roam", all set.

cellneuron said:
It was there in WM5 long time ago, which is no bug at all. If you don't like the roaming prompt, just go to activesync->schedularing->check "using it during roam", all set.
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Are you sure?
I don't recall setting that to "use this setting when roaming" on WM5.
Also, doesn't this mean my phone would check e-mails when I'm not on t-mobile network, costing me a fortune?

shnjb said:
Are you sure?
I don't recall setting that to "use this setting when roaming" on WM5.
Also, doesn't this mean my phone would check e-mails when I'm not on t-mobile network, costing me a fortune?
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I don't think your carrier will charge your roaming fee. Which network are you in?

cellneuron said:
I don't think your carrier will charge your roaming fee. Which network are you in?
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USA T-Mobile using the blackberry 19.99 internet plan.

shnjb said:
USA T-Mobile using the blackberry 19.99 internet plan.
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I am using T-Mobile 5.99, no roaming fee.

cellneuron said:
I am using T-Mobile 5.99, no roaming fee.
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No roaming despite using push e-mail with the "use this when roaming" box checked?
If that's a yes, sounds great.

Update
I am very sure infact I'm positive you can turn off the roaming indicator. If you dare go through the registry and find the settings for your carrier and apply it to this rom. Most of us(like me just turn it off beause I have unlimited raoming). I have experienced this first hand with I-Mates frimware on many of my phones. None the less here is where the key is to turn it off
Change the dword value from 0 to 1
HKLM\drivers\builtin\ril\"DisableRoamingIndicator" = dword:00000001

Kaiser (TyTn II) not working with Fido. Help!

I've had my Kaiser for 2 days now with no probs. Then today, a nightmare. I cannot make any calls longer than 10 secs. For some reason as soon as i make a call it shows the 3g logo then kicks the call, loses the network connection then gets it back. it also shows the E for edge Icon all the time and its this icon that changes to 3g during a call. It also has the triangle icon all the time, which is roaming. i sure as hell hope im not! all other functions in this device work like a charm-texting, gps, wifi- all work great. Im on fido in Vancouver. This is not a supported handset and so i get no help from them( i dont think the 20 year olds that man the tech lines have a clue anyway). I read that it may be due to an old sim card, is this likely? Any help would be appreciated, im at my wits end, and im starting to think of selling. Help!
P.S.
I dont care about data connection other than Wifi, since the data plans are a joke here. So i dont even want these features active.

Try to switch your phone to GSM only (under phone options/band)

Dag Gammit i think this may have done it! -crossing fingers and testing- will play around with this some more and see what happens. thanks for the suggestion.

Yes indeed ID64, has it right. It's not just this phone that tries to seek the strongest band around, but drops the call in the process.
Changing using settings to GSM only works, but you may be in situations where you want the other bands. You can use the same method to switch back, But you might want a nicer/quicker way using Danielherrero's Bandswitch or Commmgrpro application. He's a member here and you can search here or google. The early freeware version is around somewhere.
Mike

Fido and the roaming triangle
I wouldn't worry about the roaming thing, since all of the towers report as rogers since the network conversion.
Here in Winnipeg I'm always roaming and it has never been an issue. I'm even calling long distance (Calgary?) for voice mail.
I haven't tried it since have the all you can eat data plan for $50. but I vaguely recall seeing in the wizard forum that apparently you can get a cheap data plan through fido if you claim your phone is a HipTop. Worth a try if you want data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1135200&postcount=6

hiptop
Umm, just out of curiosity, does the HipTop thing still work? and what is it exactly?
I am about to get a plan and this one sounds intriging..

I'm on Fido with a Tilt too, works flawlessly with my 8 year old sim card. I'm very interested in this Hip-Top data plan. Has anybody tried it yet? someone definatly should and let us know!

any way to get rid of the roaming notifications so we can enable automatic email downloading? feature will not work while roaming and my FIDO phone is always roaming on my home network. can't find a registry hack for the Kaiser for this.

Fido roaming and e-mail
I haven't found a way to turn off the roaming notification. However you can set up e-mail accounts to automatically download even when roaming. Obviously if you do really roam you will be charged mightily so I would use with caution.
for hotmail (windows live) it's option 5 in the options menu item
for other accounts
-Send/Receive Schedule
-- Advanced Settings
--- Use automatic send/receive schedule when roaming

send/recieve schedule when roaming
hondophred said:
for other accounts
-Send/Receive Schedule
-- Advanced Settings
--- Use automatic send/receive schedule when roaming
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My rom will not let me enable the automatic send/recieve when roaming without FIRST defining a send/recieve schedule. The schedule is inconveniant becuase i don't want the phone to stay on 3G connected 24hrs/day or my battery goes dead. I have it set to disconect 3G after 45 seconds but this only works if the phone is ON. When the phone is in sleep state it will leave the 3G on all the time so it opens up a whole other can of worms/problems. Does your rom let you enable this send/recieve while roaming option without first enabling a schedule? if so, which rom you using?

Disable roaming indicator

Anyone figured out how to disable the roaming indicator? The registry hack which worked for the Wizard does not seem to work for the Kaiser...

Anyone? It would be so great because some applications require not to roam unless it can be used and with Telfort in the Netherlands you always roam on the KPN network (since Telfort was taken over by KPN)...

disable roaming
did you ever figure it out? i have the same problem on Fido in Canada. always roaming.

getmp3s said:
did you ever figure it out? i have the same problem on Fido in Canada. always roaming.
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as far as i know, nobody has figured this out, though i wish they would.

I am not roaming, I am home. arrrggh!!!

For some strange reason my phone thinks I am roaming when i'm not and keeps warning me about additional data charges everytime I check my email. I tried to choose my provider from the dropdown list but there are no Canadian providers listed..... and yes I am in Canada. I don't mind the warning so much but it also won't connect automatically and check my email. How can I fix this?
thanks.

Hi Dongetti
Welcome to XDA-Dev
Your question is fine, but it would be better placed in the regular Kaiser forum as it does not related to Upgrading/Development.
I will move it to the Kaiser Forum with an expiring (6hrs) redirect from the Kaiser upgrading Forum. So by tomorrow you will know where to look for it.
Cheers
Mike

Where in canada do you reside? are you close to a border of some kind?

Roam?
I have that same (problem) with my 8525, after I got the Tilt I added a second line and even though the phones have shared minutes and are billed together the Hermes still thinks it's roaming when the Tilt doesn't.
I called the carrier and she told me it was a fix on their end and that I would have to call back to customer service, it's not the phone or ROM.

dongetti said:
For some strange reason my phone thinks I am roaming when i'm not and keeps warning me about additional data charges everytime I check my email. I tried to choose my provider from the dropdown list but there are no Canadian providers listed..... and yes I am in Canada. I don't mind the warning so much but it also won't connect automatically and check my email. How can I fix this?
thanks.
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I'm running Dutty's WM6 on AT&T Tilt, in Toronto on Rogers, works fine.

Thanks for the replies....
By the way, i'm running Sleuth 1.0 on AT&T tilt and no I don't live anywhere near the US border.

I'm having the same damn problem. In the morning there's a stupid triangle up on my today screen. Is that what you are talking about?

No my problem is this:
go to control panel (start -> settings ).
Then go to the connections page.
Then tap connection setup, it will give you a list of Countries to choose from and and then a list of providers below that. The problem is that my provider is not listed and that makes the phone think i'm roaming when I am not. Even though I enter my connection settings manually it won't connect 'automatically' to check my email. Therefore, I have to go in and send/receive manually to see if I got any new mail and it always warns me that i'm roaming(when i'm not) and checking my email may result in data charges.

That's not your problem, you can always manually configure your connection settings to your carrier's.
The problem is that your phone think's it's roaming based on the wireless signals from the tower...

dongetti, probably you're using fido sim?
if that's the case, then it's not fixable. As you know since Robbers acquired Fido, they have integrated the tower. But for some reason, the code for fido was being left in your sim (they don't change it to Robber's code). No other choice than to use Rogers signal, since that's the only one available now anyway.

Are there roaming charges if it is roaming between rogers and fido? even after the merger?

SHiBBi3 said:
Are there roaming charges if it is roaming between rogers and fido? even after the merger?
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No there wont be any roaming charges.. for more info on this check the fido section in the howard forums website, also you can check with fido's customer service about this issue
i've been with fido for about 3 years now with an unlocked phone right from the start and every phone i've had has the little roaming symbol at the top, but i've never seen any roaming charges on it yet

Reward $125 : Trick Diamond into thinking that it is not roaming

I have the Diamond from the Rogers network in Canada. It is SIM unlocked and constantly flashed with a variety of different ROMs. I am on the Fido network in Canada, which was purchased by the Rogers network. Ever since Rogers bought Fido, every phone I put my SIM in shows roaming.
Fido has been no help in solving the roaming problem. I have gone through this and many forums and have not found a solution to this problem.
Many individuals have claimed that this is not possible and that it is defined by the network; however, I think the Windows Mobile OS can be tricked to thinking that it is on the home network, due to the following: I have a Samsung SGH-i616 originally from the Rogers network. I have SIM unlocked it and flashed it with the Fido Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM. This phone does not show that it is roaming. Everything works like it is on the home network for this phone.
I am willing to give US$100 to whoever could make a CAB or something that will trick the phone into thinking that it is not roaming. The fix should not just hide the roaming icon. It should make the phone work as if it was on a home network.
Who is willing to solve this problem and claim the fabulous reward???

Everyone that uses an HTC device with Fido suffers from this problem. I know that people on the Telfort network suffer from this roaming problem too. Surely, I am not the only one that has been severely annoyed by this right?

Dude, have a look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=503131&highlight=roaming see if that helps.

Thanks for the tip. Have looked into the thread before. Does not offer any help in defining a network as a home network.

If it helps in fixing my problem, all the files on my Samsung i616 (RILGSM.Dll files and such) are at their disposal.

try this (just throwing it out there)
hklm\software\microsoft\mds\cebits\roaming and set it to zero
i see some other registry settings but they do not look like they could be applicable.

Didn't have a registry entry there. Created a new dword called Roaming with value of 0. Rebooted my phone. Still the same. Roaming

Have you tried that other app No Data mentioned in that previous post?

Tried the No Data app. Does not trick phone into thinking it is not roaming. It disables data when roaming. Since my phone thinks it is roaming all the time, it successfully turns off data in my home network.

hameedx said:
I have the Diamond from the Rogers network in Canada. It is SIM unlocked and constantly flashed with a variety of different ROMs. I am on the Fido network in Canada, which was purchased by the Rogers network. Ever since Rogers bought Fido, every phone I put my SIM in shows roaming.
Fido has been no help in solving the roaming problem. I have gone through this and many forums and have not found a solution to this problem.
Many individuals have claimed that this is not possible and that it is defined by the network; however, I think the Windows Mobile OS can be tricked to thinking that it is on the home network, due to the following: I have a Samsung SGH-i616 originally from the Rogers network. I have SIM unlocked it and flashed it with the Fido Windows Mobile 6.1 update. This phone does not show that it is roaming. Everything works like it is on the home network for this phone.
I am willing to give US$100 to whoever could make a CAB or something that will trick the phone into thinking that it is not roaming. The fix should not just hide the roaming icon. It should make the phone work as if it was on a home network.
Who is willing to solve this problem and claim the fabulous reward???
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How would you like to pay ?
WU or Paypall !!!

If you are able to solve my problem, I will pay you in any method you prefer. PayPal or Western Union is fine by me. Heck, I'll even put dollar bills in an envelope and post it to you if you prefer

A friend of mine is suffering from the same problem and is willing to give $25 to have the problem solved. So the reward is now $125.
If anyone else is having this problem, please put forward your pledge so that an enterprising developer can fix this issue and claim the large bounty.

I was looking for the EXACT same thing and I guess it means there's no solution?
Like you, I'm a Fido customer using a Rogers smartphone (Touch) and it always shows I'm roaming ... some programs can get around it, others cannot, and I get asked "Do you want to enable data connection when roaming? It may cost you." every time.

I'm also having the same problem. It's quite common in Norway, where a couple of big companies own the networks and the other providers "roam" in their network. Annoying.

Maybe you should contact Rogers to get a SIM card of them? Since Rogers bought Fido, so maybe you should get a Rogers card?

I am also having a roaming issue. I have nation wide coverage but when I get out of the state of Wisconsin, I start roaming. I get warnings about I am roaming and additional charges may apply when I open, send, or receive on email, internet, youtube, facebook ... pretty much anything data. I have an unlimited data plan so this shouldn't be an issue? I have nation wide coverage...
Gah! How to disable these warnings? Some adv. config / tweak program or registry edit?

Cybot12999 said:
Maybe you should contact Rogers to get a SIM card of them? Since Rogers bought Fido, so maybe you should get a Rogers card?
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Can't put a Rogers SIM on the Fido network. Will get a validation error.

Does anybody have any input on how to get this issue fixed. I am very close to canceling my contract with my carrier over this problem

Same Trouble here in Montreal with my Rogers Diamond Phone (unlocked) and SIM fido.
ALWAYS ROAMING Grrrr
And I can't setup e-mail correctly and no home network to!
KaNiMziE

I also have recently activated an HTC Diamond on Fido, and constantly have the roaming icon above. It doesn't really bother me at all, however, I am just concerned about actual roaming charged. Roaming should be defined by the cell towers, correct? So, even though it displays a roaming icon, I am not really roaming at home, and therefore, will not be charged. Could anyone confirm?