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I am not roaming, I am home. arrrggh!!!

For some strange reason my phone thinks I am roaming when i'm not and keeps warning me about additional data charges everytime I check my email. I tried to choose my provider from the dropdown list but there are no Canadian providers listed..... and yes I am in Canada. I don't mind the warning so much but it also won't connect automatically and check my email. How can I fix this?
thanks.

Hi Dongetti
Welcome to XDA-Dev
Your question is fine, but it would be better placed in the regular Kaiser forum as it does not related to Upgrading/Development.
I will move it to the Kaiser Forum with an expiring (6hrs) redirect from the Kaiser upgrading Forum. So by tomorrow you will know where to look for it.
Cheers
Mike

Where in canada do you reside? are you close to a border of some kind?

Roam?
I have that same (problem) with my 8525, after I got the Tilt I added a second line and even though the phones have shared minutes and are billed together the Hermes still thinks it's roaming when the Tilt doesn't.
I called the carrier and she told me it was a fix on their end and that I would have to call back to customer service, it's not the phone or ROM.

dongetti said:
For some strange reason my phone thinks I am roaming when i'm not and keeps warning me about additional data charges everytime I check my email. I tried to choose my provider from the dropdown list but there are no Canadian providers listed..... and yes I am in Canada. I don't mind the warning so much but it also won't connect automatically and check my email. How can I fix this?
thanks.
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I'm running Dutty's WM6 on AT&T Tilt, in Toronto on Rogers, works fine.

Thanks for the replies....
By the way, i'm running Sleuth 1.0 on AT&T tilt and no I don't live anywhere near the US border.

I'm having the same damn problem. In the morning there's a stupid triangle up on my today screen. Is that what you are talking about?

No my problem is this:
go to control panel (start -> settings ).
Then go to the connections page.
Then tap connection setup, it will give you a list of Countries to choose from and and then a list of providers below that. The problem is that my provider is not listed and that makes the phone think i'm roaming when I am not. Even though I enter my connection settings manually it won't connect 'automatically' to check my email. Therefore, I have to go in and send/receive manually to see if I got any new mail and it always warns me that i'm roaming(when i'm not) and checking my email may result in data charges.

That's not your problem, you can always manually configure your connection settings to your carrier's.
The problem is that your phone think's it's roaming based on the wireless signals from the tower...

dongetti, probably you're using fido sim?
if that's the case, then it's not fixable. As you know since Robbers acquired Fido, they have integrated the tower. But for some reason, the code for fido was being left in your sim (they don't change it to Robber's code). No other choice than to use Rogers signal, since that's the only one available now anyway.

Are there roaming charges if it is roaming between rogers and fido? even after the merger?

SHiBBi3 said:
Are there roaming charges if it is roaming between rogers and fido? even after the merger?
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No there wont be any roaming charges.. for more info on this check the fido section in the howard forums website, also you can check with fido's customer service about this issue
i've been with fido for about 3 years now with an unlocked phone right from the start and every phone i've had has the little roaming symbol at the top, but i've never seen any roaming charges on it yet

Reward $125 : Trick Diamond into thinking that it is not roaming

I have the Diamond from the Rogers network in Canada. It is SIM unlocked and constantly flashed with a variety of different ROMs. I am on the Fido network in Canada, which was purchased by the Rogers network. Ever since Rogers bought Fido, every phone I put my SIM in shows roaming.
Fido has been no help in solving the roaming problem. I have gone through this and many forums and have not found a solution to this problem.
Many individuals have claimed that this is not possible and that it is defined by the network; however, I think the Windows Mobile OS can be tricked to thinking that it is on the home network, due to the following: I have a Samsung SGH-i616 originally from the Rogers network. I have SIM unlocked it and flashed it with the Fido Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM. This phone does not show that it is roaming. Everything works like it is on the home network for this phone.
I am willing to give US$100 to whoever could make a CAB or something that will trick the phone into thinking that it is not roaming. The fix should not just hide the roaming icon. It should make the phone work as if it was on a home network.
Who is willing to solve this problem and claim the fabulous reward???

Everyone that uses an HTC device with Fido suffers from this problem. I know that people on the Telfort network suffer from this roaming problem too. Surely, I am not the only one that has been severely annoyed by this right?

Dude, have a look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=503131&highlight=roaming see if that helps.

Thanks for the tip. Have looked into the thread before. Does not offer any help in defining a network as a home network.

If it helps in fixing my problem, all the files on my Samsung i616 (RILGSM.Dll files and such) are at their disposal.

try this (just throwing it out there)
hklm\software\microsoft\mds\cebits\roaming and set it to zero
i see some other registry settings but they do not look like they could be applicable.

Didn't have a registry entry there. Created a new dword called Roaming with value of 0. Rebooted my phone. Still the same. Roaming

Have you tried that other app No Data mentioned in that previous post?

Tried the No Data app. Does not trick phone into thinking it is not roaming. It disables data when roaming. Since my phone thinks it is roaming all the time, it successfully turns off data in my home network.

hameedx said:
I have the Diamond from the Rogers network in Canada. It is SIM unlocked and constantly flashed with a variety of different ROMs. I am on the Fido network in Canada, which was purchased by the Rogers network. Ever since Rogers bought Fido, every phone I put my SIM in shows roaming.
Fido has been no help in solving the roaming problem. I have gone through this and many forums and have not found a solution to this problem.
Many individuals have claimed that this is not possible and that it is defined by the network; however, I think the Windows Mobile OS can be tricked to thinking that it is on the home network, due to the following: I have a Samsung SGH-i616 originally from the Rogers network. I have SIM unlocked it and flashed it with the Fido Windows Mobile 6.1 update. This phone does not show that it is roaming. Everything works like it is on the home network for this phone.
I am willing to give US$100 to whoever could make a CAB or something that will trick the phone into thinking that it is not roaming. The fix should not just hide the roaming icon. It should make the phone work as if it was on a home network.
Who is willing to solve this problem and claim the fabulous reward???
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How would you like to pay ?
WU or Paypall !!!

If you are able to solve my problem, I will pay you in any method you prefer. PayPal or Western Union is fine by me. Heck, I'll even put dollar bills in an envelope and post it to you if you prefer

A friend of mine is suffering from the same problem and is willing to give $25 to have the problem solved. So the reward is now $125.
If anyone else is having this problem, please put forward your pledge so that an enterprising developer can fix this issue and claim the large bounty.

I was looking for the EXACT same thing and I guess it means there's no solution?
Like you, I'm a Fido customer using a Rogers smartphone (Touch) and it always shows I'm roaming ... some programs can get around it, others cannot, and I get asked "Do you want to enable data connection when roaming? It may cost you." every time.

I'm also having the same problem. It's quite common in Norway, where a couple of big companies own the networks and the other providers "roam" in their network. Annoying.

Maybe you should contact Rogers to get a SIM card of them? Since Rogers bought Fido, so maybe you should get a Rogers card?

I am also having a roaming issue. I have nation wide coverage but when I get out of the state of Wisconsin, I start roaming. I get warnings about I am roaming and additional charges may apply when I open, send, or receive on email, internet, youtube, facebook ... pretty much anything data. I have an unlimited data plan so this shouldn't be an issue? I have nation wide coverage...
Gah! How to disable these warnings? Some adv. config / tweak program or registry edit?

Cybot12999 said:
Maybe you should contact Rogers to get a SIM card of them? Since Rogers bought Fido, so maybe you should get a Rogers card?
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Can't put a Rogers SIM on the Fido network. Will get a validation error.

Does anybody have any input on how to get this issue fixed. I am very close to canceling my contract with my carrier over this problem

Same Trouble here in Montreal with my Rogers Diamond Phone (unlocked) and SIM fido.
ALWAYS ROAMING Grrrr
And I can't setup e-mail correctly and no home network to!
KaNiMziE

I also have recently activated an HTC Diamond on Fido, and constantly have the roaming icon above. It doesn't really bother me at all, however, I am just concerned about actual roaming charged. Roaming should be defined by the cell towers, correct? So, even though it displays a roaming icon, I am not really roaming at home, and therefore, will not be charged. Could anyone confirm?

Kaiser on Fido (Canada) & roaming

Hello all,
I have searched these forums high and low, but could not find a solution to my problem. I have a Kaiser which I use on the Canadian provider Fido. Since late 2004, Fido is a wholly owned subsidiary of Rogers, another Canadian wireless provider. Fido and Rogers now share one same network: Rogers'. My problem is that my Kaiser, having a Fido SIM in it, seems to always think it is roaming because it is connecting to the Rogers network. This causes me a problem since I cannot tell my phone to only download when on my home network, otherwise I would never be able to download anything (since I am always roaming). If I tell my phone to download even when roaming, I cannot control my usage when I actually am roaming in another country. I know there must be some kind of setting somewhere that I can adjust to make my phone think it is not roaming while connected to Rogers' network, I just don't know what it is. No matter what ROM I try, I can't get rid of that pesky "roaming triangle"! My gf's phone, a Samsung Jack, does not think it is forever roaming, so I know it is possible.
Does anyone have any insight on this?
Thanks in advance!
Dom

Hello there.
I have used my kaiser with Saudi Sim card, Lebanese Sim card, Jordanian Sim card and now FIDO sim card. Ive always had this triangle and has never affected my data plan.

bteljuice said:
Hello there.
I have used my kaiser with Saudi Sim card, Lebanese Sim card, Jordanian Sim card and now FIDO sim card. Ive always had this triangle and has never affected my data plan.
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Me too, I even had my roaming turned off by Fido for some time and the triangle was still there.

Thanks for the input, guys. I know that the roaming icon will not prevent me from accessing 3G data. What it does prevent me from doing, though, is differentiating between "real" roaming (i.e. in another country) and "fake" roaming (i.e. on the Rogers network). As it stands, all settings which can be set to "use 3G data only when not roaming" are ineffective as I would never be able to download anything if they were enabled.
I hope that clears things up. And I hope that someone smarter than I am has a solution for this problem.
Thanks again!

Hello, I have the exact same phone on the exact same fido network and have the roaming triangle as well. It does not affect your data/voice plan at all. (ie. if you are in the Canada, you will not be charged for roaming). This is all explained in the following link:
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=837503
Essentially the gist of it is that you are "roaming" on the rogers network, but since they are the same company, it doesn't matter or affect any of your plans. I have used my 6GB data plan from Fido with no extra charges.
It does effect some programs that do provide options for disabling web traffic when roaming (ie. hotmail push e-mail from windows live) as these programs will always think you are on another network.
What I have done is, predominantly, I use my wifi connection where available and have turned off all the "disabling traffic when roaming" options in various apps. Then in the fido internet (3G;GPRS) settings, I did not include the password. What this does is that when I connect to the internet without wifi it asks me for my password which I then enter to connect. Definitely mildly inconvenient, but prevents me from 'accidentally' connecting to the internet when in the US.

Thanks ibhimani.
I have taken similar measures to prevent roaming fees, but I use MoDaCo's NODATA app, instead. Basically, it allows me to completely turn off all cellular data connections (WiFi remains intact) while I am away.
Still, I don't think this is a real solution; it is a workaround at best. I know there is a way to force the phone to recognize the Rogers network as a "Home" network since my gf's Samsung Jack does not claim to be roaming at all times. I will try to look through the registry on the Jack to see if there is some setting I can tweak to achieve the desired effect. I'll let you all know if I find something.

That would be great. Thanks in advance.

No luck!
Hi all,
After a little research in the registry of my gf's Samsung Jack, I've found that the way the network is handled on it is different than on our HTC. The Samsung uses something called MITSMan.exe (Mobile Intelligent Terminal by Samsung Manager) which can identify the network correctly on her phone, but not on ours. Unfortunately, this is not reusable for us. The search continues. Hopefully, a WinMo HTC device will launch on Fido sometime soon so I can reuse something from it.
If I find anything else, I'll post it here.

I have a Nokia e62 and the Samsung Jack from Fido. Both these phones do not show the roaming icon. Must be some sort of custom firmware brewed for Fido by the manufacturers.
BTW - I am now using a Samsung Omnia II. This shows roaming too.

hameedx said:
I have a Nokia e62 and the Samsung Jack from Fido. Both these phones do not show the roaming icon. Must be some sort of custom firmware brewed for Fido by the manufacturers.
BTW - I am now using a Samsung Omnia II. This shows roaming too.
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Hi hameedx,
With a Samsung Omnia II, you may be able to make a change to the registry to make it think you're on the home network, if it works like the Samsung Jack. On your Jack, search through the registry for something called MITSman. There should be a value corresponding to Fido's carrier code (MNC-MCC), which is 302-370 (or 302-720, which is Rogers'). It may actually be easier to search for these values. If the Omnia also uses MITSman, then you might be able to make the registry entries on it look like the ones on the Jack. If you need more detail about the registry entries, I could get them when I have access to a Jack again.

I searched the Jack's registry for anything with 302 720 370 72 37. Couldn't find any meaningful entry. Perhaps it is a DLL that we need to replace?

I believe that the Fido Samsung Jack has roaming indicator disabled completely. I used a Telus SIM in the Jack and does not show roaming. The Telus SIM shows roaming when I put it in other unlocked phones.

Network Operator connection

I own a t-mobile version of the nexus one. I can connect fine to their network with no problem, however i do find myself in a complete t-mobile dead zone sometimes. When im at that location other people with AT&T devices have pretty good service. I noticed that in the Wireless & Network settings -> Mobile Networks -> Network Operators, it does find AT&T on there. However, when trying to connect to it, it gives the following error:
"Your SIM card does not allow a connection to this network"
At that location, i was also with someone who had t-mobile with a Motorola Cliq, who was able to access this AT&T network without a problem (although it was a G connection)
Is there something i can do to access this network with my phone and sim card?
Maybe some sort of sim unlock code i need to get from t-mobile?

same here/..

actually.. im having that problem right now! O.O;
I have full bars yet i can't send txt msgs or call anyone.. and when i try to turn on wifi it says updating wifi then turns off... wtf?

anyone have any ideas?

Are you on a pre-paid account? Sometimes the pre-paid accounts do not support roaming (even though you aren't paying roaming on a contact account).
Also; it depends on the freq of that network. Ummm; if the phone is unlocked or not.
There could be a number of issues. You could try and call T-Mobile and ask them. But it just could be that it's At&t and that specific area might not be roaming enabled.
Just my 2-cents.

Squeaky369 said:
Are you on a pre-paid account? Sometimes the pre-paid accounts do not support roaming (even though you aren't paying roaming on a contact account).
Also; it depends on the freq of that network. Ummm; if the phone is unlocked or not.
There could be a number of issues. You could try and call T-Mobile and ask them. But it just could be that it's At&t and that specific area might not be roaming enabled.
Just my 2-cents.
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Check your logic. I'm sure that roaming would be enable in big NYC. WE are in two different areas also. Plus I am on postpaid. Also the phone is QUAD band, it does not need 3G to roam on AT&T EDGE network...come on now.

I ended up contacting google phone support about this. The tech i spoke to on the line was able to recreate the issue.
When he contacted t-mobile support for us t-mobile said basically if they own the property rights for the area you're in (disregarding your signal strength) you are unable to connect to any other network. If you are outside of a t-mobile coverage area, you are then able to roam.

Why im Roaming with AT&T phone + BELL / TELUS SIM

Hi,
I would like to be able to modify my AT&T radio and change the default Mobile Network Code for my carier, is there any software to make easy to modify the ROM file ?
Thank

I'm not quite sure I understand what you're asking, but a radio will work on various different networks, depending on which SIM card you have in the phone. So I'm not sure that it's in the radio that you need to look.
What is it that you're trying to achive exactly, why do you want to change this code ?

Well, here is my problem;
I bought a Tilt 2 on ebay, and I also get an Unlock code for it. I have inserted my Bell SIM and the phone work correctly. I have configured the APN setting correctly and now I have internet without any problem.
The only bad thing is that the phone always think i'm in roaming, but that's not true. I have to deactivate all setting about roaming check, it's not a big thing but If I got to USA I will be charged for real roaming. and another downside is that many application pup info about roaming and data charge.
I'm searching since couple days to found a solution, and I'm pretty there is one but I have not enough knowledge on programming stuff. I've look all every registry in my phone and no one can't correct this ''roaming'' situation.
That's why im turning to Radio, since this phone is an AT&T, it's propbably seaching to compare SIM network provided and ROM network. I've found an interesting site about MMC/MNC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Network_Code
and found that the default network for AT&T is 310-410. Here in Canada We have bell and telus that use same technology then AT&T (UMTS 850 / UMTS 1900).
I would like to change the default ''home'' network code to 302-880. because my Sim Provided IMSI is 302-610 (Bell).
So to make it short. I want to change the default ''HOME'' network 310-410 to 302-880 so the phone will not be in a roaming profile.
Hope that someone can help me, and I'm pretty sure many people will appreciate this fix.
Thank You.

I don't know much about this, but surely it's your SIM card that is providing this code ? Since I could buy an unlocked Tilt 2 and put my own SIM card in it, and use it fine here in the UK on a UK network.
I can't believe that your phone thinks it's roaming just because it's a Tilt 2.

Yes, I found in my registry ProvidedIMSI="302610" that is the SIM registred network 302610 Bell HSPA network. So my SIM is telling the phone to use this network, but there is something in the phone that say it's roaming and not a home network. and I need to find and change this.
I'm not the only one in this situation and i would like to find a fix.

i have no knowledge about this only thing i can think of at the moment is just change the current radio version and flash a new rom. the latest version for radio is
4.49.25.95
and is found here ------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939
follow the right steps. [:d]
best of luck

Yes, I've updated the Radio to the latest version and still have the problem of ROAMING. i've try 2 old radio and always got the roaming icon.
Any other input will be accepted!!
Thanks

BiOs2k said:
Yes, I've updated the Radio to the latest version and still have the problem of ROAMING. i've try 2 old radio and always got the roaming icon.
Any other input will be accepted!!
Thanks
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I read somewhere that roaming starts when you are out of your area code range.
But you can try this too
go to ------> setting ---> personal ------> phone -------> Network (in the bottom tabs)
In the network tab click Find Network and make sure it is the same network you are using.
Network selection should be "Automatic".
Now in next tab BAND
select network type to "GSM" and GSM/UMTS band to "Auto".
Try this and let me know if this work else i will ask somebody knowledgeable like Sir Phunkee

the show stopper said:
I read somewhere that roaming starts when you are out of your area code range.
But you can try this too
go to ------> setting ---> personal ------> phone -------> Network (in the bottom tabs)
In the network tab click Find Network and make sure it is the same network you are using.
Network selection should be "Automatic".
Now in next tab BAND
select network type to "GSM" and GSM/UMTS band to "Auto".
Try this and let me know if this work else i will ask somebody knowledgeable like Sir Phunkee
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I've play with these setting and nothing seem to work.
But maybe I found something interesting.
I've just test the phone with a ROGERS SIM card and I get 3G signal and i'm NOT in roaming mode..
Now, What that mean ? Rogers 3G is UMTS/HSPA 850/1900MHz same as BELL.
Why it say Roaming when phone is connected to BELL with BELL Sim and not on ROGERS SIM??
Could someone help me with that ? fix, cab, anything ?
Thanks

rooming
Hi
I do not know think you want to do with your tilt 2
Why you don't do a hard SPL and install a cocked rom !! as energy
I am using a tilt purchased from AT&T without contract
I get a unlock cod from the internet then I do a hard SPL it and install the energy rom in, is work like a charm with Rogers, without any problem( only the gps wish I never try
Perhaps this is can resolve your problem you should try
thanks

Already done Cjoco My Tilt 2 is Unlocked and Hard-SPL with latest EnergyROM.
Like I said before, SIM ROGERS work like a charm in my phone, No roaming warning. but with BELL and TELUS SIM I get the Roaming notif but it's not true, Im connected to BELL and VOICE,DATA,etc. work #1.
People say that it work with ROGERS because this carrier have a fallback signal if 3G is not available, with BELL if I lose 3G signal my phone doesn't work.

BiOs2k said:
I've play with these setting and nothing seem to work.
But maybe I found something interesting.
I've just test the phone with a ROGERS SIM card and I get 3G signal and i'm NOT in roaming mode..
Now, What that mean ? Rogers 3G is UMTS/HSPA 850/1900MHz same as BELL.
Why it say Roaming when phone is connected to BELL with BELL Sim and not on ROGERS SIM??
Could someone help me with that ? fix, cab, anything ?
Thanks
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then i think problem is with your sim card not with your phone. Just get your sim card replaced and i am sure the problem would be resolved.

the problem may be with his sim card, but im not sure replacing it will fix anythibng. im also with bell and have the same problem on my fuze.
bios2k, how old is your sim card?

bobzero My SIM card is 2 Week Old. so, i'm not sure it because my SIM is old.
I'll give a call at tech support @ BELL to see if they know why it doing this. I'm not sure if they will be enough good to explain this situation.
I've read last night on many forums the RILPHONE.DLL could be a possible cause of our problem.
In my config I can select GSM(850,1700) + UMTS(850,1700) but there is no option to select UMTS only. so maybe the phone is searching for GSM first (rogers) that's why when I insert a ROGERS SIM my phone is not roaming.
Is there a way I can extract RILPHONE.DLL for our EnergyROM or Stock Tilt 2 rom. Maybe I can ask a Programmer to take a look at this DLL to see the code.
I'll let you know.

I've just talk with BELL technical support and they have no idea why I'm the phone say it's in ROAMING. I've talk to the billing department and they say I don't have any ROAMING fees, so nothing to worry about..
Now, I'm still at the same state = no solution

Same here.
I was checking around and found many got this problem, including BBs. Now, some claimed that after upgrading the O/S for his BB, it went away. Another person with different device upgraded his O/S and started having that problem, and it wasn't there with stock ROM.
Make me think it has to do with the software side of thing and nothing to do with SIM or radios. To pinpoint what is causing it, can be a tough task though.

scooper True, Hard task for people that don't know much about programming ROM and files, but maybe we can have help from other that wanna look at our problem.
I'm available to test if someone want to Help us .

BiOs2k said:
scooper True, Hard task for people that don't know much about programming ROM and files, but maybe we can have help from other that wanna look at our problem.
I'm available to test if someone want to Help us .
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You should try to change the radio and rom of your phone. Make sure to Task 29 b4 flashing. Another thing to make sure is you use the right radio, i mean the specific radio for telus, t-mobile or att.....
Wrong radio can also cause such problems.

I have the same issue with my Unlocked Tilt2 on Telus. I found a lot of people with unlocked winmo devices on bell/telus complaining of this problem and never have seen a solution. People say that a Fido sim will do the same thing. Only Rogers sims seem to not show roaming. PLEASE post if you find the solution or even cause of this.

I just did task29 and reflash ROM. I soon as I have the main menu Roaming Icon appear on top just beside or 3G.
Damn!! still stock with this roaming issue
anyone have Q's ?