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Adding home (non-roaming) network

I live in Canada and have a Fido SIM card. When Rogers and Fido merged, the old Fido network ID (302-370) was made defunct so that the only GSM network available is the Rogers one (302-720).
As I am a Fido customer, it means that my Kaiser believes that it is always roaming as 302-370 is my home network and I can't use the roaming-based data rules to manage my data charges when I'm truly roaming.
Is there a way to add 302-720 as a "home network" as far as the Kaiser is concerned? Is this defined in the registry or in the ROM?
I am currently using the stock HTC ROM.
Thanks.

Its defined on the Sim card, just call Rogers and tell them what happened, and Im sure that they'll send you a new card with 302-720 as a home network.
Otherwise, I dont wanna be a Canadian Idiot! (LOL at Wierd Al for his song...)
Eh?

I've been in touch with both the regular customer service people and their "network people". They are either unable or unwilling to make that change for me. It is possible that they use the SIM's home network as a key to decide which back-end database they reference. Although they merged the two GSM networks, they still operate as two separate companies (apart from the price collusion, of course).
Yesterday, I even bought a new latest-generation SIM card to replace my ancient one thinking that it may fix the problem. No luck - it still uses the Fido network id.
So, as the SIM card is stuck the way it is, I need a way to override my Kaiser's opinion that the Rogers network is a roaming one.

I have a really similar problem, plus another one which might be related.
I am in the UK and on the "Three" network, they are mainly a 3G network and i'm not sure but they might not have 'any' 2G transmitters. So when I have 3G coverage there is no roaming icon and everything works fine.
If however I am in a 2G area and using their roaming partner (not sure who yet, possibly Orange) the GPRS will not work unless I go in and tell the phone to search for a network automatically then make a connection straight away. It says there is GPRS signal and connects but I can't actually transfer any data. The GSM standard phone calls and TXT messages work fine without doing that.
If anyone does have an answer on how to add additional home networks I would be gratefull to know too.

I have the same problem with Fido; however, when I put my SIM into a Samsung Jack flashed with Fido ROM, the roaming problem is gone. The Samsung Jack was from Rogers. This leads me to believe that the roaming is somehow set by the ROM.

I don't believe there is anyway you are going to be able to make the Rogers network not think you are a Rogers customer through a registry hack.
Maybe you can find a work around by using those dialing rules?
And the only real fix is to bite the bullet and switch over to a Rogers contract.

Switching over to Rogers will resolve the roaming issue and will finally be rid of the text from 18 for voicemail; however, I don't want to lose my old City Fido plan.

i also face same problem any solution guy's ?

I am not roaming, I am home. arrrggh!!!

For some strange reason my phone thinks I am roaming when i'm not and keeps warning me about additional data charges everytime I check my email. I tried to choose my provider from the dropdown list but there are no Canadian providers listed..... and yes I am in Canada. I don't mind the warning so much but it also won't connect automatically and check my email. How can I fix this?
thanks.

Hi Dongetti
Welcome to XDA-Dev
Your question is fine, but it would be better placed in the regular Kaiser forum as it does not related to Upgrading/Development.
I will move it to the Kaiser Forum with an expiring (6hrs) redirect from the Kaiser upgrading Forum. So by tomorrow you will know where to look for it.
Cheers
Mike

Where in canada do you reside? are you close to a border of some kind?

Roam?
I have that same (problem) with my 8525, after I got the Tilt I added a second line and even though the phones have shared minutes and are billed together the Hermes still thinks it's roaming when the Tilt doesn't.
I called the carrier and she told me it was a fix on their end and that I would have to call back to customer service, it's not the phone or ROM.

dongetti said:
For some strange reason my phone thinks I am roaming when i'm not and keeps warning me about additional data charges everytime I check my email. I tried to choose my provider from the dropdown list but there are no Canadian providers listed..... and yes I am in Canada. I don't mind the warning so much but it also won't connect automatically and check my email. How can I fix this?
thanks.
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I'm running Dutty's WM6 on AT&T Tilt, in Toronto on Rogers, works fine.

Thanks for the replies....
By the way, i'm running Sleuth 1.0 on AT&T tilt and no I don't live anywhere near the US border.

I'm having the same damn problem. In the morning there's a stupid triangle up on my today screen. Is that what you are talking about?

No my problem is this:
go to control panel (start -> settings ).
Then go to the connections page.
Then tap connection setup, it will give you a list of Countries to choose from and and then a list of providers below that. The problem is that my provider is not listed and that makes the phone think i'm roaming when I am not. Even though I enter my connection settings manually it won't connect 'automatically' to check my email. Therefore, I have to go in and send/receive manually to see if I got any new mail and it always warns me that i'm roaming(when i'm not) and checking my email may result in data charges.

That's not your problem, you can always manually configure your connection settings to your carrier's.
The problem is that your phone think's it's roaming based on the wireless signals from the tower...

dongetti, probably you're using fido sim?
if that's the case, then it's not fixable. As you know since Robbers acquired Fido, they have integrated the tower. But for some reason, the code for fido was being left in your sim (they don't change it to Robber's code). No other choice than to use Rogers signal, since that's the only one available now anyway.

Are there roaming charges if it is roaming between rogers and fido? even after the merger?

SHiBBi3 said:
Are there roaming charges if it is roaming between rogers and fido? even after the merger?
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No there wont be any roaming charges.. for more info on this check the fido section in the howard forums website, also you can check with fido's customer service about this issue
i've been with fido for about 3 years now with an unlocked phone right from the start and every phone i've had has the little roaming symbol at the top, but i've never seen any roaming charges on it yet

Reward $125 : Trick Diamond into thinking that it is not roaming

I have the Diamond from the Rogers network in Canada. It is SIM unlocked and constantly flashed with a variety of different ROMs. I am on the Fido network in Canada, which was purchased by the Rogers network. Ever since Rogers bought Fido, every phone I put my SIM in shows roaming.
Fido has been no help in solving the roaming problem. I have gone through this and many forums and have not found a solution to this problem.
Many individuals have claimed that this is not possible and that it is defined by the network; however, I think the Windows Mobile OS can be tricked to thinking that it is on the home network, due to the following: I have a Samsung SGH-i616 originally from the Rogers network. I have SIM unlocked it and flashed it with the Fido Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM. This phone does not show that it is roaming. Everything works like it is on the home network for this phone.
I am willing to give US$100 to whoever could make a CAB or something that will trick the phone into thinking that it is not roaming. The fix should not just hide the roaming icon. It should make the phone work as if it was on a home network.
Who is willing to solve this problem and claim the fabulous reward???

Everyone that uses an HTC device with Fido suffers from this problem. I know that people on the Telfort network suffer from this roaming problem too. Surely, I am not the only one that has been severely annoyed by this right?

Dude, have a look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=503131&highlight=roaming see if that helps.

Thanks for the tip. Have looked into the thread before. Does not offer any help in defining a network as a home network.

If it helps in fixing my problem, all the files on my Samsung i616 (RILGSM.Dll files and such) are at their disposal.

try this (just throwing it out there)
hklm\software\microsoft\mds\cebits\roaming and set it to zero
i see some other registry settings but they do not look like they could be applicable.

Didn't have a registry entry there. Created a new dword called Roaming with value of 0. Rebooted my phone. Still the same. Roaming

Have you tried that other app No Data mentioned in that previous post?

Tried the No Data app. Does not trick phone into thinking it is not roaming. It disables data when roaming. Since my phone thinks it is roaming all the time, it successfully turns off data in my home network.

hameedx said:
I have the Diamond from the Rogers network in Canada. It is SIM unlocked and constantly flashed with a variety of different ROMs. I am on the Fido network in Canada, which was purchased by the Rogers network. Ever since Rogers bought Fido, every phone I put my SIM in shows roaming.
Fido has been no help in solving the roaming problem. I have gone through this and many forums and have not found a solution to this problem.
Many individuals have claimed that this is not possible and that it is defined by the network; however, I think the Windows Mobile OS can be tricked to thinking that it is on the home network, due to the following: I have a Samsung SGH-i616 originally from the Rogers network. I have SIM unlocked it and flashed it with the Fido Windows Mobile 6.1 update. This phone does not show that it is roaming. Everything works like it is on the home network for this phone.
I am willing to give US$100 to whoever could make a CAB or something that will trick the phone into thinking that it is not roaming. The fix should not just hide the roaming icon. It should make the phone work as if it was on a home network.
Who is willing to solve this problem and claim the fabulous reward???
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How would you like to pay ?
WU or Paypall !!!

If you are able to solve my problem, I will pay you in any method you prefer. PayPal or Western Union is fine by me. Heck, I'll even put dollar bills in an envelope and post it to you if you prefer

A friend of mine is suffering from the same problem and is willing to give $25 to have the problem solved. So the reward is now $125.
If anyone else is having this problem, please put forward your pledge so that an enterprising developer can fix this issue and claim the large bounty.

I was looking for the EXACT same thing and I guess it means there's no solution?
Like you, I'm a Fido customer using a Rogers smartphone (Touch) and it always shows I'm roaming ... some programs can get around it, others cannot, and I get asked "Do you want to enable data connection when roaming? It may cost you." every time.

I'm also having the same problem. It's quite common in Norway, where a couple of big companies own the networks and the other providers "roam" in their network. Annoying.

Maybe you should contact Rogers to get a SIM card of them? Since Rogers bought Fido, so maybe you should get a Rogers card?

I am also having a roaming issue. I have nation wide coverage but when I get out of the state of Wisconsin, I start roaming. I get warnings about I am roaming and additional charges may apply when I open, send, or receive on email, internet, youtube, facebook ... pretty much anything data. I have an unlimited data plan so this shouldn't be an issue? I have nation wide coverage...
Gah! How to disable these warnings? Some adv. config / tweak program or registry edit?

Cybot12999 said:
Maybe you should contact Rogers to get a SIM card of them? Since Rogers bought Fido, so maybe you should get a Rogers card?
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Can't put a Rogers SIM on the Fido network. Will get a validation error.

Does anybody have any input on how to get this issue fixed. I am very close to canceling my contract with my carrier over this problem

Same Trouble here in Montreal with my Rogers Diamond Phone (unlocked) and SIM fido.
ALWAYS ROAMING Grrrr
And I can't setup e-mail correctly and no home network to!
KaNiMziE

I also have recently activated an HTC Diamond on Fido, and constantly have the roaming icon above. It doesn't really bother me at all, however, I am just concerned about actual roaming charged. Roaming should be defined by the cell towers, correct? So, even though it displays a roaming icon, I am not really roaming at home, and therefore, will not be charged. Could anyone confirm?

Phone Shows Roaming Sign When Abroad using a Local SIM

I've recently shifted to another country,
Used my o2 SIM for a day or two and obviously phone showed as Roaming, with the little "R"..
I've now bought a local SIM card and installed and running on a local Provider, yet the phone still shows as Roaming and Data does not work unless I allow Data connection while roaming...
Is this a bug or something?
I should state I've been in a different country recently and also used a local SIM from there and I never had this issue at all... I saw the local provider when using their SIM, Now, I use a local SIM and this still shows an "R" on my signal.. Same with my girlfriends phone...
Any ideas?
Edit: I'm on a N/W unlocked phone..

CJSlim79 said:
I've recently shifted to another country,
Used my o2 SIM for a day or two and obviously phone showed as Roaming, with the little "R"..
I've now bought a local SIM card and installed and running on a local Provider, yet the phone still shows as Roaming and Data does not work unless I allow Data connection while roaming...
Is this a bug or something?
I should state I've been in a different country recently and also used a local SIM from there and I never had this issue at all... I saw the local provider when using their SIM, Now, I use a local SIM and this still shows an "R" on my signal.. Same with my girlfriends phone...
Any ideas?
Edit: I'm on a N/W unlocked phone..
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In my country there were 2 networks, and when a third network started it's business, it was using the infrastructure of one of the existing networks. The phones that were using Sim cards of the third network, all showed that they were in roaming, and if they wanted to use data, they needed to enable "data while roaming" options. Of course, they were never billed for roaming charges. Now this third network has it's own infrastructure, and the roaming sign is a thing of the past.
Maybe this is the case with you too.
I would try to contact the local network provider, to seek the answer you are looking for.
B.r.
d3m0n

I get this in Thailand because my provider has different names/IDs for the 3G and 2G networks.
The 3G is called "True-H" and the 2G "True Move", or something like that.
The SIM will automatically register on both networks, but if it connects to the 2G network I get the roaming symbol.
The solution is either to enable roaming data (I don't get charged any extra, but need to remember to disable it if I travel), or set my movie network to WCDMA only. This way it won't connect to the 2G network.
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Check if you got roaming allowed and switch it of.
Register if needed handset on your network manually.
You might not have the network where you are due to availability area coverage.
Check your apn settings, if they are on the mobile network you need and settings are correct. Perhaps from website provider, or helpdesk you can request them to send settings.
Go to settings, more, mobile networks and check there. Just explore a bit.
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Cheers for the replies,
I'd already checked those areas out, APN is correct, Settings from Provider received and installed, Manually selected provider from the Network list...
Still showing 'R' - AS has been said 0 I'll just have to enable Data when Roaming and turn it off when I travel..

which service provider do you use and phone model do you use?
this phenomenon normally happen in new telco on some phone model

Question Data not connecting on ATT since "3G switchoff"

So on Monday ATT decided to deactivate my sim card because they believe my phone is incompatible with their network now. All my bars went to 0 with an x on it and I couldn't do anything on the phone. I went to an ATT store, got them to give me a new activated sim and I put it in my phone and all my bars came back.
My phone says VoLTE again too by the signal bar area. I also tested a text and it went through fine. I received a phone call and while it works fine, it sounds like junk now. Like it is no longer actually using VoLTE like it always has. My phone doesnt seem to have any data however, when it should have LTE just fine. I also cannot make any calls, even though it says VoLTE on the phone, it just re-routes to ATT customer service instead of going through with the call.
When I go into the network area in settings it says no IP address either. I looked and my APN is set to nxtgenphone, Preferred Network Type selected on LTE. Before ATT deactivated my sim card LTE has always worked fine, and LTE should still work fine. It is only the 3G network being shut down. Also given the fact I have the VoLTE icon the phone is apparently connecting somewhat to an LTE network.
So does anyone know how to fix settings to get data working again? Is it just an APN that needs to change? What is everyone else doing with the network shutdown and has anyone else had issues like this?

I had the exact same issue, your issue is in fact APN settings I'm having them as well. Try deleting your current APN and putting in a new one. Once I got a new sim my APN reset I could call but no data and no text. I have half of the APN information in place and have data and basic text, but once I input the MMS port the APN data disappears still trying to figure that out. Not sure if anything I typed is helpful but at least you know your not alone with a mi11 on ATT and it can work
EniGmA1987 said:
So on Monday ATT decided to deactivate my sim card because they believe my phone is incompatible with their network now. All my bars went to 0 with an x on it and I couldn't do anything on the phone. I went to an ATT store, got them to give me a new activated sim and I put it in my phone and all my bars came back.
My phone says VoLTE again too by the signal bar area. I also tested a text and it went through fine. However, my phone doesnt seem to have any data, when it should have LTE just fine. I also cannot make any calls, even though it says VoLTE on the phone, it just re-routes to ATT customer service instead of going through with the call.
When I go into the network area in settings it says no IP address either. I looked and my APN is set to nxtgenphone, Preferred Network Type selected on LTE. Before ATT deactivated my sim card LTE has always worked fine, and LTE should still work fine. It is only the 3G network being shut down. Also given the fact I have the VoLTE icon the phone is apparently connecting somewhat to an LTE network.
So does anyone know how to fix settings to get data working again? Is it just an APN that needs to change? What is everyone else doing with the network shutdown and has anyone else had issues like this?
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moswen said:
I had the exact same issue, your issue is in fact APN settings I'm having them as well. Try deleting your current APN and putting in a new one. Once I got a new sim my APN reset I could call but no data and no text. I have half of the APN information in place and have data and basic text, but once I input the MMS port the APN data disappears still trying to figure that out. Not sure if anything I typed is helpful but at least you know your not alone with a mi11 on ATT and it can work
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Thanks for the reply. I tried deleting the MMS port and also the proxy just now and data didnt come back. I will try searching around for more APN info for how phones are supposed to connect now and see if I can find anything.

It looks like from what I could find that it is due to an IMEI whitelist ATT has, blocking data connection on any device not in their whitelist. The solution seems to be to root the phone and change your IMEI to a whitelisted model.

While my phone is rooted my IMEI is not cloned I definitely would not share my IMEI with ATT. When I got my sim card yesterday I had the attendant activate but I did not provide my phone so he did not get the IMEI from my phone. If you got a sim and they input your IMEI that could be a problem possibly. Just a suggestion to try and get a sim activated at a store without your phone.

I had also heard that most ATT MVNOs were not having the device whitelist forced on them yet, so I went and tried 2 different ones yesterday. Both failed to get the phone working on their network with their sims.
Before I went through the hassle of rooting (and most likely losing payments) I tried ATT again anyway. I used their online customer service chat and the first person I chatted with said he could help me with the lte data problem and the IMEI issue. I was skeptical, but he actually did fix it all up. He just needed my sim ICCID and my phones IMEI1 and he submitted the info to their backend people for adding to their system. It took almost an hour and a half for it to get added, but overall it was a pretty painless process and I was browing the web most of the time while waiting in chat. I now have LTE data again, VoLTE again, and "5G" too (which ATT 5G is really just one or two more features than normal LTE and is no faster in speed and uses LTE data bands). I attached a screenshot showing the data and VoLTE working on my phone. The first signal is ATT, the second is TMobile (which has always worked and never had an issue, their 3G network shutdown is going on for another 4-5 months)

EniGmA1987 said:
I had also heard that most ATt MVNOs were not having the device whitelist forced on them yet, so I went and tried 2 different ones yesterday. Both failed to get the phone working on their network with their sims.
Before I went through the hassle of rotting (and most likely losing payments) I tried ATT again anyway. I used their online customer service chat and the first person I chatted with said he could help me with the lte data problem and the IMEI issue. I was skeptical, but he actually did fix it all up. He just needed my sim ICCID and my phones IMEI1 and he submitted the info to their backend people for adding to their system. It took almost an hour and a half for it to get added, but overall it was a pretty painless process and I was browing the web most of the time while waiting in chat. I now have LTE data again, VoLTE again, and "5G" too (which ATT 5G is really just one or two more features than normal LTE and is no faster in speed and uses LTE data bands). I attached a screenshot showing the data and VoLTE working on my phone. The first signal is ATT, the second is TMobile (which has always worked and never had an issue, their 3G network shutdown is going on for another 4-5 months)
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Happy you are back up and running and I'm glad that you found someone at ATT to do the fairly easy work of getting your IMEI cleared. Lots of people have been worried about devices not working on ATT because of this whitelist issue glad to see there are workarounds just wish ATT didn't make it so convoluted.