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HSDPA enabled

The first day i got my tilt I enabled the HSDPA connection. I connected to the internet and my 3G icon changed from a 3G to a H, then the internet was blazing, faster than my DSL i use at work.
Well in the last few days I noticed it doesn't go to H anymore, it just stays at 3G. I checked the registry and HSDPA is still enabled. I have add a lot of cabs since it was working. Does anyone know anything that controls the HSDPA besides the registry entry. any ideas on how to get it back?

For me, it only changes to an H when actually transferring data. It stays at 3G most of the time.

yes, thats what I was getting as well. But even when I am transferring data it still remains at 3G. I have yet to see it go to H in the last few days. Maybe the network is getting work, anyone in the Chicago area getting H?

Mr.Clark said:
For me, it only changes to an H when actually transferring data. It stays at 3G most of the time.
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That's what I observed.

3G not working on Tilt

I just got my Tilt last night, then called ATT and had the IMEI put in and made sure to ask that 3G is enabled.
However, I'm in my classroom in NYC right now, and all I get is an "E" above my bars, which I assume means edge. I have 3G turned on in comm manager, why am I not getting it?
I'm running dutty's touchflo rom for tilt beta, also i just ran a speedtest and it was 119kbps down so definitely not 3G, how can i fix this?

mikesaint27 said:
I just got my Tilt last night, then called ATT and had the IMEI put in and made sure to ask that 3G is enabled.
However, I'm in my classroom in NYC right now, and all I get is an "E" above my bars, which I assume means edge. I have 3G turned on in comm manager, why am I not getting it?
I'm running dutty's touchflo rom for tilt beta, also i just ran a speedtest and it was 119kbps down so definitely not 3G, how can i fix this?
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It depends if there is 3G available in "that side of town"

Yes I've checked the coverage viewer, I mean I'm right in NYC and 3G was always active on my Helio Ocean when I had it.

When I am not actively using the deivce for transferring data, it seems to "fall back" to Edge. -Then when I transfer data I'll see the 3G or H icon to indicate a better / faster connection.
I am wondering if this isn't the desired funtionality to save power? -I have read in many many places that Edge is much more battery friendly than 3G and / or HSDPA

mikesaint27 said:
Yes I've checked the coverage viewer, I mean I'm right in NYC and 3G was always active on my Helio Ocean when I had it.
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Where are u in NYC? Cross street? Area?
Im in mid-town with full 3G.
Also, if I'm not mistaken Helio runs on one of the CDMA networks(Sprint/Verizon), so having 3G on your Ocean wont necessarily mean that you'll have it on your Tilt.

I cant use AT&T internet on certian apps?

It use to work before I had Shaps Rom on mine, now resco apps wont work and on occasion Windows Live Messenger wont work. . . Some other apps are Skype, zsIRC, Coreplayer(Yes I have the 1.1.3 one), some others but you get the idea. What could be the problem? I have the right MEdia Net and AT&T ISP settings.

Anyone? What could the problem be?

It would probably help if you posted your set up, i.e. rom/radio/os versions...

Ah, well, I said shaps rom. And I have the radio ver: 1.27.12.17. It could be the radio, but now I am only getting edge speeds, when I am in a city with all 3G and edge in the suburbs and ghetto areas?

~~Tito~~ said:
Ah, well, I said shaps rom. And I have the radio ver: 1.27.12.17. It could be the radio, but now I am only getting edge speeds, when I am in a city with all 3G and edge in the suburbs and ghetto areas?
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oh? i thought schaps had more than one rom released.
with my current setup i haven't had any problems or complaints with edge or 3g.
so, how's your rom coming along?

Oh, lol thats what you meant. . . Its the 4.31 one. I dont know. I havent been able to use certian apps. . . and a moment ago it didnt have any connection and now it does and it jumps from edge to GSPA and then sometimes I cant have 3G back and when I do it messes everything up, like the carrier logo says AT&T 3G instead of regular AT&T and it would change the HSPDA symbol to 3G and sometimes its normal with the Hspda symbol? Why does it do that? Well I'm off to be its too late here anyways. ., it could be a network problem IDK but I hope it corrects it self in the morning.
What part of town are you in so maybe you could help me?

the band switching problem is my favorite. you are lucky to only get that now. try turning off your band setting from auto to either gsm or 3g, that worked for me. you could always change your radio and see if that helps.
oh, and your apps not working, ..... hard reset yet?
i'm generally all over town during the day, but i live near the uni.
although i don't know how much help i'd actually be.

Tried that and I don't want to start all over after 6 flashes(During the time I flashed to the shaps rom out of the time I've had it). Well, it works now. It could have been my area. UNLV? I am by the community college.

~~Tito~~ said:
Oh, lol thats what you meant. . . Its the 4.31 one. I dont know. I havent been able to use certian apps. . . and a moment ago it didnt have any connection and now it does and it jumps from edge to GSPA and then sometimes I cant have 3G back and when I do it messes everything up, like the carrier logo says AT&T 3G instead of regular AT&T and it would change the HSPDA symbol to 3G and sometimes its normal with the Hspda symbol? Why does it do that? Well I'm off to be its too late here anyways. ., it could be a network problem IDK but I hope it corrects it self in the morning.
What part of town are you in so maybe you could help me?
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Normal operation of HSDPA is this: In a 3G area the 3G icon will show. While data is being transferred the H icon will show. Once the data transfer is complete it will go back to the 3G icon. I think part of what you are describing is normal oeration.
-Jay

Well, no. My whole town is almost 3G, so I dont think its that and it would say HSPDA all the time even with out data transfers. I think the network had a hiccup yesterday. It only did the 3G icon thing when I would have been messing with the band selection(hasent happened lately it only happened 2 weeks ago).

~~Tito~~ said:
Well, no. My whole town is almost 3G, so I dont think its that and it would say HSPDA all the time even with out data transfers. I think the network had a hiccup yesterday. It only did the 3G icon thing when I would have been messing with the band selection(hasent happened lately it only happened 2 weeks ago).
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You should not be on H all the time, even when no data is being transferred. My phone got stuck like that once. A soft reset fixed it.
-Jay

Well not connected, all the time it just says [H], is there something wrong with that? I thought that was 3G? When ever the [3G] symbol comes on the carrier display area not the connectivity area says AT&T 3G and when its normal it just says AT&T.

"3G" Icon on AT&T Tilt

The 3G Icon has never displayed on my tilt. I live an area that supposedly has great 3G coverage.
It's quite annoying since all the screenshots I've seen of the Tilt are always displaying the icon.
I get the E, H, and very rarely the G icons but I've never seen the 3G icon.
Any ideas?

Well,
The H is for HSDPA, which is higher speed than what the 3G denotes....so I'd say that you are doing just fine.

Yeah, I do get he H quite a bit.
But I just find it strange that I've never seen the 3G Icon.
Maybe because I am not using the stock AT&T ROM. I'm using Q-Mobile 1.2
Is the 3G icon specific to the Stock AT&T Rom?

Yea, is there a cab that changes the icon to 3G?

I have the stock AT&T ROM in my Tilt. When it goes online, the 3G lights up first, then, when I am lucky, an H replaces it. The difference in speed is noticable when the H is on. You can use Kaiser Tweaks to enable HSDPA on the Tilt - stock, it only allows access to the slower 3G speeds.
Why would you want to disable the higher speed transfer?

The H icon you are seeing is actually a good thing as it means that AT&T now has full HSDPA coverage in your area. In my case, the first three months that I had my Tilt, the 3G icon showed when idle and the H icon showed when I was downloading data. One day, out of nowhere, the 3G icon disappeared and has been replaced by the H icon for good. I have now noticed two things that are different now that the H shows all the time.
1. I can now make a call without the data connection being disconnected.
2. My download speeds shot through the roof! When the 3G icon was there, I had speeds of about 550kbps. Now I get speeds of 1000kbps!
Dont worry, I too panicked and tried to fix the missing icon, but even after a hard reset didn't remedy the situation, then I knew it was something tower-based.

H is good. It's amazing. It's like cable internet in your pocket. (OK...but close...)

dgduris said:
I have the stock AT&T ROM in my Tilt. When it goes online, the 3G lights up first, then, when I am lucky, an H replaces it. The difference in speed is noticable when the H is on. You can use Kaiser Tweaks to enable HSDPA on the Tilt - stock, it only allows access to the slower 3G speeds.
Why would you want to disable the higher speed transfer?
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On a Tilt you can also go to Start / Programs / File Explorer / My Device / Windows / HSDPASwitch to enable and disable HSDPA. You can even create a shortcut to it and put it in your programs folder or start menu.
There's a lot of hidden goodies in the windows folder. Everyone should just browse through there and see if they find anything interesting. (Field Test is there too!)
-Jay

redsrule2500 said:
H is good. It's amazing. It's like cable internet in your pocket. (OK...but close...)
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I've clocked downloads at up to 1,200k over my Tilt.
-Jay

dgduris said:
I have the stock AT&T ROM in my Tilt. When it goes online, the 3G lights up first, then, when I am lucky, an H replaces it. The difference in speed is noticable when the H is on. You can use Kaiser Tweaks to enable HSDPA on the Tilt - stock, it only allows access to the slower 3G speeds.
Why would you want to disable the higher speed transfer?
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No I mean just the icon, I don't want the H icon. I just want 3G. For some reason when ever I look at it it makes me feel like its a slow speed.

~~Tito~~ said:
No I mean just the icon, I don't want the H icon. I just want 3G. For some reason when ever I look at it it makes me feel like its a slow speed.
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HSDPA is the fastest type of 3G available. Think of the H as the strongest possible connection.

In my city, I get 3G icon in the phone mode while not connected to the internet. While I was in Las Vegas, I get the H icon in the phone mode while not connected to the internet. It's strange but it's true. I've always thought the H icon is for data only but apparently H is also in phone mode too. I get the H icon in my city only when I'm usnig the AT&T's data and only while there's data session. When data is idle, it change back to 3G. But when I was in vegas, it never changed to 3G. It always displays H.

Jay2TheRescue said:
On a Tilt you can also go to Start / Programs / File Explorer / My Device / Windows / HSDPASwitch to enable and disable HSDPA. You can even create a shortcut to it and put it in your programs folder or start menu.
There's a lot of hidden goodies in the windows folder. Everyone should just browse through there and see if they find anything interesting. (Field Test is there too!)
-Jay
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when i go into the windows folder to look for the hsdpa switch i cant find that. can i be anywhere else.
jeff

cooljeff2 said:
when i go into the windows folder to look for the hsdpa switch i cant find that. can i be anywhere else.
jeff
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I don't know. That's where it is on my Tilt... You can always download Advanced Config or Kaiser Tweak to enable it as well.
-Jay

Where's the 3G!!

A week ago I got a second hand Tilt. It AT&T branded but a HTC rom was flashed to it, ROM version 3.28.405.0 WWE, Radio 1.65.17.56, Pototcol 25.83.40.02H.
My issue is I see not "3G" indicator on the screen in areas where I know there's coverage (my other phone does indicate 3G coverage). So what could this mean? Is something missing??
Any info is appreciated.
Thanks!

Headroom said:
A week ago I got a second hand Tilt. It AT&T branded but a HTC rom was flashed to it, ROM version 3.28.405.0 WWE, Radio 1.65.17.56, Pototcol 25.83.40.02H.
My issue is I see not "3G" indicator on the screen in areas where I know there's coverage (my other phone does indicate 3G coverage). So what could this mean? Is something missing??
Any info is appreciated.
Thanks!
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You mean there is not reception icon, or there is icon but it doesnt show 3G? What it shows then?

Headroom said:
Is something missing??
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Having already read the HTC User Manual for the TyTN II perhaps? If you get the pdf from HTCs website (or even search for it) and have a read, you'll see that in areas of 3G coverage, sometimes the device will display a 'H' which is superior to ordinary old 3G.

My issue is that I'm in an area with 3G coverage, my other cell indicates this with a "3G" icon on it's screen, but my tilt does not indicate or detects 3G coverage. There's no "3G" or "H" on my display.

Headroom said:
My issue is that I'm in an area with 3G coverage, my other cell indicates this with a "3G" icon on it's screen, but my tilt does not indicate or detects 3G coverage. There's no "3G" or "H" on my display.
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Can u post screenshot of your screen? What icons do u have there(on the upper bar)?

You may want to look for something like Kaiser Tweak or something else that disables 3g.. Also you can try tapping on the signal icon at the top and make sure that all the data/3g stuff is turned on at the bottom.

Don't know how to get screenshoot. On the top of the Today screen there's, from right to left, the task manager, the battery, the signal strength (just the little antenna and the bars) and the WiFi icon.
Where in Kaiser Tweak or Advanced Configuration Tool could disable 3G?

Kaiser Tweak = under Data
Advanced config = again, under Data.

Tried it...no joy!
Went to Adv. Config. and eneble everything under data connections. Still nothing.

Does your sim support 3G?

Headroom said:
Went to Adv. Config. and eneble everything under data connections. Still nothing.
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Did you check in Advance config to see if just the icons are turned of ? I believe you can just turn the icons off ( because some people find them annoying ) but still call and connect at 3G speed. Are you lacking speed or just the icons. ?

Let me re-state
I've had this Tilt for about a week, my other cell (Samsung A737) indicates "3G" all the time while I'm at work so yes my sim is 3G. This Tilt has never indicated "3G".
I went to Adv. Config under data connections and enabled everything.
What I'm trying to figure out, is this Tilt unable to detect "3G" or is it a missing icon thing.

IF
1. you have a 3g sim
2. Kaiser Tweak and Advanced config don't have 3g disabled
3. you don't have the "nodata.cab" installed
4. 3G data is turned on in the comm manager
5. HSDPA is turned on in /settings/connections/advanced network
6. All the proper info is set for your connection "media net"
and you still don't have 3g.
I would say at the very least do a hard reset or update your ROM.
Anything I'm missing?

Ok...more data...new questions
Where in Comm Manager can turn 3G on/off?
What does Medianet settings has to do with 3G?
Thanks for your answers ChumleyEX!

Headroom said:
Don't know how to get screenshoot. On the top of the Today screen there's, from right to left, the task manager, the battery, the signal strength (just the little antenna and the bars) and the WiFi icon.
Where in Kaiser Tweak or Advanced Configuration Tool could disable 3G?
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Hehe, when u have wifi enabled the 3G icon changes to the wifi icon, just try to turn of wifi and see if the 3g,H,E or G icon will appear.

That's a thought Mikulec! Tomorrow at work I will try this. I'm home now & reception here is crap!

Headroom said:
Ok...more data...new questions
Where in Comm Manager can turn 3G on/off?
What does Medianet settings has to do with 3G?
Thanks for your answers ChumleyEX!
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do some research and you will find all the answers you seak.

Say what?
I'm sorry ChumleyEX but that's not an answer...I dont have a data plan so MediaNet is, in my opinion, not an issue. Like I said before, that didn't keep my other (and less sophisticated cell) from detecting 3G coverage... anyway more data!!
I tried turnning off wifi to see if wifi icon becomes "3G", that doesn't work, the wifi icon gets an "X" over it & does not become "3G".
Yesterday I found out that if you try to make a video call the cell tells you if there's a 3G network available, so I tried this in my office & it answers no 3G network available.
Last night I started experimenting with flashing, I knew this cell had been flashed before by someone else, for one this is an AT&T branded Tilt but the previous owner has using it on another carrier and when I access the bootloader among the information there was "Spl 1.0 Olipro".
I flashed a couple of Hard SPLs & a couple of radios to try and it got me thinking, could the lack of "3G" be a radio or ROM issue??

Headroom said:
I'm sorry ChumleyEX but that's not an answer...I dont have a data plan so MediaNet is, in my opinion, not an issue. Like I said before, that didn't keep my other (and less sophisticated cell) from detecting 3G coverage... anyway more data!!
I tried turnning off wifi to see if wifi icon becomes "3G", that doesn't work, the wifi icon gets an "X" over it & does not become "3G".
Yesterday I found out that if you try to make a video call the cell tells you if there's a 3G network available, so I tried this in my office & it answers no 3G network available.
Last night I started experimenting with flashing, I knew this cell had been flashed before by someone else, for one this is an AT&T branded Tilt but the previous owner has using it on another carrier and when I access the bootloader among the information there was "Spl 1.0 Olipro".
I flashed a couple of Hard SPLs & a couple of radios to try and it got me thinking, could the lack of "3G" be a radio or ROM issue??
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It definitely could be radio rom issue, but ... I am flashoholic, that means I flash almost every rom that comes out. And on most roms that I flashed the 3G icon changes after some time to the X, but after going to the internet via gprs the 3G appears once again. I dont know why is this happining, there was a disscusion about this, but I dont know in which thread.
The funny thing is although I have the X icon, I am in 3G area and I can make video calls and use the 3G cappabilities. So I dontknow why u can not.

" I knew this cell had been flashed before by someone else, for one this is an AT&T branded Tilt but the previous owner has using it on another carrier and when I access the bootloader among the information there was "Spl 1.0 Olipro"
So it's possible that the media net info is incorrect. Also, your simple phone that has the 3G show up is just that, a simple phone. This tilt isn't so simple.
if this link works, download the file and run it.
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