A week ago I got a second hand Tilt. It AT&T branded but a HTC rom was flashed to it, ROM version 3.28.405.0 WWE, Radio 1.65.17.56, Pototcol 25.83.40.02H.
My issue is I see not "3G" indicator on the screen in areas where I know there's coverage (my other phone does indicate 3G coverage). So what could this mean? Is something missing??
Any info is appreciated.
Thanks!
Headroom said:
A week ago I got a second hand Tilt. It AT&T branded but a HTC rom was flashed to it, ROM version 3.28.405.0 WWE, Radio 1.65.17.56, Pototcol 25.83.40.02H.
My issue is I see not "3G" indicator on the screen in areas where I know there's coverage (my other phone does indicate 3G coverage). So what could this mean? Is something missing??
Any info is appreciated.
Thanks!
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You mean there is not reception icon, or there is icon but it doesnt show 3G? What it shows then?
Headroom said:
Is something missing??
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Having already read the HTC User Manual for the TyTN II perhaps? If you get the pdf from HTCs website (or even search for it) and have a read, you'll see that in areas of 3G coverage, sometimes the device will display a 'H' which is superior to ordinary old 3G.
My issue is that I'm in an area with 3G coverage, my other cell indicates this with a "3G" icon on it's screen, but my tilt does not indicate or detects 3G coverage. There's no "3G" or "H" on my display.
Headroom said:
My issue is that I'm in an area with 3G coverage, my other cell indicates this with a "3G" icon on it's screen, but my tilt does not indicate or detects 3G coverage. There's no "3G" or "H" on my display.
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Can u post screenshot of your screen? What icons do u have there(on the upper bar)?
You may want to look for something like Kaiser Tweak or something else that disables 3g.. Also you can try tapping on the signal icon at the top and make sure that all the data/3g stuff is turned on at the bottom.
Don't know how to get screenshoot. On the top of the Today screen there's, from right to left, the task manager, the battery, the signal strength (just the little antenna and the bars) and the WiFi icon.
Where in Kaiser Tweak or Advanced Configuration Tool could disable 3G?
Kaiser Tweak = under Data
Advanced config = again, under Data.
Tried it...no joy!
Went to Adv. Config. and eneble everything under data connections. Still nothing.
Does your sim support 3G?
Headroom said:
Went to Adv. Config. and eneble everything under data connections. Still nothing.
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Did you check in Advance config to see if just the icons are turned of ? I believe you can just turn the icons off ( because some people find them annoying ) but still call and connect at 3G speed. Are you lacking speed or just the icons. ?
Let me re-state
I've had this Tilt for about a week, my other cell (Samsung A737) indicates "3G" all the time while I'm at work so yes my sim is 3G. This Tilt has never indicated "3G".
I went to Adv. Config under data connections and enabled everything.
What I'm trying to figure out, is this Tilt unable to detect "3G" or is it a missing icon thing.
IF
1. you have a 3g sim
2. Kaiser Tweak and Advanced config don't have 3g disabled
3. you don't have the "nodata.cab" installed
4. 3G data is turned on in the comm manager
5. HSDPA is turned on in /settings/connections/advanced network
6. All the proper info is set for your connection "media net"
and you still don't have 3g.
I would say at the very least do a hard reset or update your ROM.
Anything I'm missing?
Ok...more data...new questions
Where in Comm Manager can turn 3G on/off?
What does Medianet settings has to do with 3G?
Thanks for your answers ChumleyEX!
Headroom said:
Don't know how to get screenshoot. On the top of the Today screen there's, from right to left, the task manager, the battery, the signal strength (just the little antenna and the bars) and the WiFi icon.
Where in Kaiser Tweak or Advanced Configuration Tool could disable 3G?
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Hehe, when u have wifi enabled the 3G icon changes to the wifi icon, just try to turn of wifi and see if the 3g,H,E or G icon will appear.
That's a thought Mikulec! Tomorrow at work I will try this. I'm home now & reception here is crap!
Headroom said:
Ok...more data...new questions
Where in Comm Manager can turn 3G on/off?
What does Medianet settings has to do with 3G?
Thanks for your answers ChumleyEX!
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do some research and you will find all the answers you seak.
Say what?
I'm sorry ChumleyEX but that's not an answer...I dont have a data plan so MediaNet is, in my opinion, not an issue. Like I said before, that didn't keep my other (and less sophisticated cell) from detecting 3G coverage... anyway more data!!
I tried turnning off wifi to see if wifi icon becomes "3G", that doesn't work, the wifi icon gets an "X" over it & does not become "3G".
Yesterday I found out that if you try to make a video call the cell tells you if there's a 3G network available, so I tried this in my office & it answers no 3G network available.
Last night I started experimenting with flashing, I knew this cell had been flashed before by someone else, for one this is an AT&T branded Tilt but the previous owner has using it on another carrier and when I access the bootloader among the information there was "Spl 1.0 Olipro".
I flashed a couple of Hard SPLs & a couple of radios to try and it got me thinking, could the lack of "3G" be a radio or ROM issue??
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I'm sorry ChumleyEX but that's not an answer...I dont have a data plan so MediaNet is, in my opinion, not an issue. Like I said before, that didn't keep my other (and less sophisticated cell) from detecting 3G coverage... anyway more data!!
I tried turnning off wifi to see if wifi icon becomes "3G", that doesn't work, the wifi icon gets an "X" over it & does not become "3G".
Yesterday I found out that if you try to make a video call the cell tells you if there's a 3G network available, so I tried this in my office & it answers no 3G network available.
Last night I started experimenting with flashing, I knew this cell had been flashed before by someone else, for one this is an AT&T branded Tilt but the previous owner has using it on another carrier and when I access the bootloader among the information there was "Spl 1.0 Olipro".
I flashed a couple of Hard SPLs & a couple of radios to try and it got me thinking, could the lack of "3G" be a radio or ROM issue??
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It definitely could be radio rom issue, but ... I am flashoholic, that means I flash almost every rom that comes out. And on most roms that I flashed the 3G icon changes after some time to the X, but after going to the internet via gprs the 3G appears once again. I dont know why is this happining, there was a disscusion about this, but I dont know in which thread.
The funny thing is although I have the X icon, I am in 3G area and I can make video calls and use the 3G cappabilities. So I dontknow why u can not.
" I knew this cell had been flashed before by someone else, for one this is an AT&T branded Tilt but the previous owner has using it on another carrier and when I access the bootloader among the information there was "Spl 1.0 Olipro"
So it's possible that the media net info is incorrect. Also, your simple phone that has the 3G show up is just that, a simple phone. This tilt isn't so simple.
if this link works, download the file and run it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=70973&d=1203219889
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I'm here in the middle of San Francisco. I just ran a test at www.dslreports.com/mspeed and NEVER saw the 3G icon change. I got 120 kbit/sec.
Anyone know if I need to do something to get it to switch to HSDPA? Anyone else in SF able to get higher speeds on this test?
Robert
If HSDPA / 3G coverage is available in your area, the phone will detect it - assuming that Settings > Connections > HSDPA > Turn on HSDPA is enabled.
Network speed performance can be affected by any number of factors including how heavy the network is being used by subscribers.
see here too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1567369#post1567369
rmcalhany said:
I'm here in the middle of San Francisco. I just ran a test at www.dslreports.com/mspeed and NEVER saw the 3G icon change. I got 120 kbit/sec.
Anyone know if I need to do something to get it to switch to HSDPA? Anyone else in SF able to get higher speeds on this test?
Robert
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I was in SF last week and was getting really good download speeds with the 3G turning to H al the time.
Possible Problem with No 3G
First, is this your first 3G device, from Cingular? If so, they may have skipped the "change of technology" step in the upgradeing process...I worked for Congular for 2 years...If they didn' do a change of technology you will only get edge speeds...Hope it helps....
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First, is this your first 3G device, from Cingular? If so, they may have skipped the "change of technology" step in the upgradeing process...I worked for Congular for 2 years...If they didn' do a change of technology you will only get edge speeds...Hope it helps....
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Hmmm, good point, my account online shows a line under the features list of "UMTS Compatible". I *thought* you wouldn't get the 3G icon either w/o that but not sure. FWIW I was getting HSDPA in some parts of the SFO airport last week and not others, so you just might be unlucky...
Richard
not sure if this would help but, how old is your sim card? does it say 3G on it?
I just switched to AT&T so the sim card is new. In an earlier post, isdereks said to go to settings > Connections > HSDPA.
Well, that may be the problem. In Connections, I don't have an icon that says HSDPA.
Thoughts?
thx
Robert
After you got your tilt, did you do cancel the custimizations to avoid having the bloatware loaded on your device? I read at the AT&T forums that one of the consequences of doing this is that you lose HSDPA from the connections tab:
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&thread.id=56257&page=2
Maybe this is what happened to you? If it did, you could do a hard reset and it will appear again with all teh bloatware.
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After you got your tilt, did you do cancel the custimizations to avoid having the bloatware loaded on your device? I read at the AT&T forums that one of the consequences of doing this is that you lose HSDPA from the connections tab:
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&thread.id=56257&page=2
Maybe this is what happened to you? If it did, you could do a hard reset and it will appear again with all teh bloatware.
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Nope. Didn't cancel anything. In fact the list of "missing programs" on that link you posted are ALL on my device EXCEPT the HSDPA program in settings.
Any other ideas?
Robert
Same here. I have a Tilt that also does not have the HSDPA setting in options. I use it in Wilmington, Delaware which is a 3G area. I also never get the H symbol when transferring data. However, on the dslreport speed test I get a speed of 432kbps. Might there be a registry setting that serves the same function as the HSDPA button under Connections?
P.S. I did not cancel auto customization and this is a brand new phone with only Opera installed.
432bps is above the 3G Max of 384kbps, so I'm guessing you're in fact in 3G+ already even if the logo isn't there. I get about the same speed with the logo on.
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432bps is above the 3G Max of 384kbps, so I'm guessing you're in fact in 3G+ already even if the logo isn't there. I get about the same speed with the logo on.
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Could installing the Clean 3G Icon cab have screwed things up?
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Could installing the Clean 3G Icon cab have screwed things up?
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on the Tilt - the default icon for everything is the "E" - and i believe HSDPA may be off by default - there is a file call HSDPASwitch.exe in the \Windows directory - run this and see if the check box is checked - if not check it - not sure how to enable the 3G icon .. yet
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on the Tilt - the default icon for everything is the "E" - and i believe HSDPA may be off by default - there is a file call HSDPASwitch.exe in the \Windows directory - run this and see if the check box is checked - if not check it - not sure how to enable the 3G icon .. yet
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Not in mine. Anyone else see this? FYI, I have 3G icon on ALL the time. Well, once yesterday I saw something else (I think it was E). I have never seen H and I've never seen speeds above 200kbps.
And unless I'm wrong, HSDPA is in a lot of the bay area. Any way to determine for sure if HSDPA is in the areas I frequent? Map?
Robert
rmcalhany said:
Not in mine. Anyone else see this? FYI, I have 3G icon on ALL the time. Well, once yesterday I saw something else (I think it was E). I have never seen H and I've never seen speeds above 200kbps.
And unless I'm wrong, HSDPA is in a lot of the bay area. Any way to determine for sure if HSDPA is in the areas I frequent? Map?
Robert
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you have a tilt? is "show all files" checked in file explorer? did you say you installed a 3g icon?
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you have a tilt? is "show all files" checked in file explorer? did you say you installed a 3g icon?
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Now that was a good post. Good amount of info. No I hadn't checked "show all files." When I did that, I saw the file you were mentioning. HSDPA was checked.
I had not installed any 3G icon. It's just always been showing 3G (except briefly E over the weekend). Never seen H in 3 days. Never been above 200kbps.
R
rmcalhany said:
Now that was a good post. Good amount of info. No I hadn't checked "show all files." When I did that, I saw the file you were mentioning. HSDPA was checked.
I had not installed any 3G icon. It's just always been showing 3G (except briefly E over the weekend). Never seen H in 3 days. Never been above 200kbps.
R
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didn't intend to sound flip ....
strange - i haven't seen a 3g icon - but see H all the time - but i have done some tweaking - and enabled HSDPA as described above.
sounds like you are in a 3g area most of the time - hopefully you get HSDPA as well.
just reread the post - noticed you said HSDPA was checked - Not sure why you don't get faster speeds - have seen > 1000k
there is also an "enable HSDPA icon" registry setting - don't know of HSDPASwitch sets this or not - i will take a look for it -would at least let you know if the phone thinks it is in HSDPA
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rmcalhany said:
It's just always been showing 3G (except briefly E over the weekend). Never seen H in 3 days. Never been above 200kbps.
R
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To restore the "H" icon when HSDPA data is in use, there's a registry tweak - thanks to HiwayFuzz for the tip:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\RIL and set EnableHSDPAIcon to 1
All, I am sure there is a thread on this somewhere, I just can't find it... please help.
I've got an AT&T Tilt with stock ROM, no bloatware. The problem is that when a phone call comes in (or I dial out), it seems to drop or interrupt the data connection even on 3G. Very annoying.
On my 8525 with WM6 ROM, this never happened. I could be connected to the internet (typically connecting my laptop via Internet Sharing on the 8525), and be talking on the phone at the same time -- the data connection was never interrupted. Of course if I was on an EDGE or GPRS network, it would -- but that's to be expected since GPRS/EDGE use the same radio as GSM. On the 8925, as I stated above, a phone call interrupts data even on 3G!
Has anyone seen this? How do I fix it? Thanks.
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All, I am sure there is a thread on this somewhere, I just can't find it... please help.
I've got an AT&T Tilt with stock ROM, no bloatware. The problem is that when a phone call comes in (or I dial out), it seems to drop or interrupt the data connection even on 3G. Very annoying.
On my 8525 with WM6 ROM, this never happened. I could be connected to the internet (typically connecting my laptop via Internet Sharing on the 8525), and be talking on the phone at the same time -- the data connection was never interrupted. Of course if I was on an EDGE or GPRS network, it would -- but that's to be expected since GPRS/EDGE use the same radio as GSM. On the 8925, as I stated above, a phone call interrupts data even on 3G!
Has anyone seen this? How do I fix it? Thanks.
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Yep overhere also... testing all radio roms but all the same... so far no fix found... we have to live with it...
The kaizer is dead... long live the Kaizer...
... to many problems
I'm in Edge country right now, but will be in 3g in a few minutes as I'm getting ready to roll out to LA, I'll email you from the car to test if the 3g and phone call can co-exist.
I think it has to do something with AT&T's cell towers. I also experienced the same issue that when calls came in my data connection would be cancelled. However one day, out of the blue, the 3G icon was suddenly replaced by an H icon. And it is there all the time! Now I can call and download data at the same time.
Thanks... that's bizzare. H means it's using the HSDPA protocol for 3G, U means it's UMTS, I think now the 3G icon shows up instead of U. (I hope I got my acronyms right). But that shouldn't matter! My phone will go between 3G and H, I think based on the capabilities of the towers. There is no telling what will show up in a given spot.
The mystery remains... Come on, all experts out there, share your wisdom. Could this have anything to do with disconnection settings or TCP settings (done via KaiserTweak)?
I think I just found the answer. Went to KaiserTweak, and selected the Data/Disconnect After setting, which I had set to 1 minute. In the description for that setting, It says "warning.." but you can't see the warning unless you go to landscape mode, which is why I never noticed it before. The warning says that with this setting, 3G Simultaneous Voice and Data will no longer work.
Disconect disabled, and a quick test showed that the problem is solved.
i just had an idea if anyone has ever heard of something like this. i was wondering since touchflo can be enables and disables upon specific program titles... i was wondering if it would be possible to have a program to auto switch the 3G and HSPDA network upon specific programs as well.
for example: if internet explore is closed the 3G and HSPDA signal would be off, and the device would run off edge to conserve battery, and if internet explore is opened then it would switch the 3G and HSPDA signal on for internet browsing.
of course this can be implemented for specifc programs not just only for internet explore.
i was wondering has anyone ever heard of this before? or could possibly develope this?
sounds like bandswitch or commmgrpro to me, look at www.commmgrpro.com
I played around with Kaisertweak today, after hardresetting my phone and disalbing the att customizations. I enabled the HSPDAoption in the tweak settings and now the connection in the start bar shows "H" whereas before I Did all that it said 3G.
My question: Which one is faster on AT&T Network? I don't have data connection turned on but will be doing so soon, I can experiment but figured someone here could answer based on experience.
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thank you i will give them both a test
dman7777 said:
I played around with Kaisertweak today, after hardresetting my phone and disalbing the att customizations. I enabled the HSPDAoption in the tweak settings and now the connection in the start bar shows "H" whereas before I Did all that it said 3G.
My question: Which one is faster on AT&T Network? I don't have data connection turned on but will be doing so soon, I can experiment but figured someone here could answer based on experience.
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With HSDPA it's suppose to be a bit faster than it being disabled and just using the norm 3G connection. I live in PA and when I had my Tilt on normal 3G it would lose signal when I went to new jersey but with HSDPA turned on it stayed longer before it dropped out but that was because I went from metro coverage to middle of nowhere in jersey.
I haven't noticed any appreciable DL speed difference with HSDPA activated or turned off (via KaiserTweak). I'm almost always in the Chicago metro area with plentiful UTMS and I also tend to revert to WiFi which is available almost everywhere here, so YMMV.
For comparison sake I have an old stock razr v3xx and I get FULL service in my room with it.
On my at&t tilt, I get 1-2 bars.
Im running Slueth 3.0 (WM6.1) and I've tried different combinations of HardSPL's and Radios but each one gives me problems that I can not fix. (i.e. - some SPL's have certain bugs where i get a text and it vibrates until i change the ringer to silent, and any other radio than the stock slueth (1.64.08.21 - which I need a link to if anyone can find?) makes my camera not work and I get a black screen.
One thing Ive noticed is on my razr, the band always says 3G. On my tilt, it says "H" - which Ive never seen before. What is "H" - and could this be the reason for poor service?
Again, if anyone knows where I could find Radio 1.64.08.21, and the disable xt9 cab I would greatly appreciate it. (I have searched for both but to no avail for a working link)
H is for hsdpa its just a nother type of service, gprs hsdpa 3g are the main in the US.
No "h" it isn't the problem.
try the ultimate radio thread for the radio you are looking for.
yeah i did, 1.64.08.21 isnt in there
can I force my tilt to choose 3G? My razr picks up 3G with full service yet the tilt uses H with hardly any
I have really awful service too. It loses connection from 3G every 10-30 seconds sometimes, but other times it can sit connected to the 3G.
Sometimes it won't even connect to 3G, then when I soft reset, it connects at 2 bars. Right now it's sitting connected at 3 bars.
What's up with this, and is there any way to improve it? The nearest base station is only 2-3 miles away.
I'd recommend trying out different radios.
Also H stands for HSDPA which is considered to be 3.5g but it actually is 9x faster then 3g.
jay487, search harder.. i found the disable xt9 cab in one search for "xt9". as for the radio your looking for, check out the wiki.
if you change the band to GSM in the band tab in the phone settings the signal will get better if you turn off WCDMA which is 3G or HSDPA, if you don't use 3g for internet then turn it off it will help
yeah I changed the band to GSM out of curiosity and it definitely seems to help so far. I dont use 3G for internet just for picture messaging, this shouldnt be affected correct? I also just did a complete reload of Sleuth to resolve the radio issue.
One problem I still notice on occasion is my sounds will just stop working. If i get a text the sound doesnt play, and if i set it to vibrate when i get a text too sometimes it constantly vibrates until i change the sound to silent and then back. I can fix it with a soft reset but having to do this everyday is anoying.
Do you need a specific program or app to disable 3g or hsdpa? i have the exact same problems, ATT +tilt= bad recep and lots of dropped calls
thanks
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My UK O2 XDA Diamond is running fine on a cooked ROM but I keep getting the connection go to HSPDA with one bar strength instead of the more reliable (ie stronger signals) GPRS or EDGE. Consequently the line drops out while I am on a call.
What setting do I need to change this?
I never saw HSPDA come up on the stock ROM, am I better off without this?
Thanks in advance
Vero44 said:
My UK O2 XDA Diamond is running fine on a cooked ROM but I keep getting the connection go to HSPDA with one bar strength instead of the more reliable (ie stronger signals) GPRS or EDGE. Consequently the line drops out while I am on a call.
What setting do I need to change this?
I never saw HSPDA come up on the stock ROM, am I better off without this?
Thanks in advance
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Even with just one bar you shud have far faster internet access with hsdpa over gprs .....
Thanks but my problem is actually dropping the calls, not internet access, although this drops out too.
When I am in a call the HSPDA signal drops to zero and I lose the call. This didn't happen before this rom was loaded, I didn't see the HSPDA icon at all.
Is it a setting for the band that I need to change or is it a matter of loading a different radio?
Vero44 said:
Thanks but my problem is actually dropping the calls, not internet access, although this drops out too.
When I am in a call the HSPDA signal drops to zero and I lose the call. This didn't happen before this rom was loaded, I didn't see the HSPDA icon at all.
Is it a setting for the band that I need to change or is it a matter of loading a different radio?
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go to comm manager and turn 3g off, that shud make you fone stay in gsm mode
Comm manager has simply 'Data connection' on or off. I don't want to lose 3G as I use the phone for data too - quite heavily. Just can't put up with the loss of voice calls.
Any other suggestions?
duz advanced config tool have an option to disable hsdpa? i cant remember have a look
Vero44 said:
Comm manager has simply 'Data connection' on or off. I don't want to lose 3G as I use the phone for data too - quite heavily. Just can't put up with the loss of voice calls.
Any other suggestions?
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Try Settings>Connections>Advanced Network, then select "Disable" in HSDPA/HSUPA. This should get you to 3G.