The 3G Icon has never displayed on my tilt. I live an area that supposedly has great 3G coverage.
It's quite annoying since all the screenshots I've seen of the Tilt are always displaying the icon.
I get the E, H, and very rarely the G icons but I've never seen the 3G icon.
Any ideas?
Well,
The H is for HSDPA, which is higher speed than what the 3G denotes....so I'd say that you are doing just fine.
Yeah, I do get he H quite a bit.
But I just find it strange that I've never seen the 3G Icon.
Maybe because I am not using the stock AT&T ROM. I'm using Q-Mobile 1.2
Is the 3G icon specific to the Stock AT&T Rom?
Yea, is there a cab that changes the icon to 3G?
I have the stock AT&T ROM in my Tilt. When it goes online, the 3G lights up first, then, when I am lucky, an H replaces it. The difference in speed is noticable when the H is on. You can use Kaiser Tweaks to enable HSDPA on the Tilt - stock, it only allows access to the slower 3G speeds.
Why would you want to disable the higher speed transfer?
The H icon you are seeing is actually a good thing as it means that AT&T now has full HSDPA coverage in your area. In my case, the first three months that I had my Tilt, the 3G icon showed when idle and the H icon showed when I was downloading data. One day, out of nowhere, the 3G icon disappeared and has been replaced by the H icon for good. I have now noticed two things that are different now that the H shows all the time.
1. I can now make a call without the data connection being disconnected.
2. My download speeds shot through the roof! When the 3G icon was there, I had speeds of about 550kbps. Now I get speeds of 1000kbps!
Dont worry, I too panicked and tried to fix the missing icon, but even after a hard reset didn't remedy the situation, then I knew it was something tower-based.
H is good. It's amazing. It's like cable internet in your pocket. (OK...but close...)
dgduris said:
I have the stock AT&T ROM in my Tilt. When it goes online, the 3G lights up first, then, when I am lucky, an H replaces it. The difference in speed is noticable when the H is on. You can use Kaiser Tweaks to enable HSDPA on the Tilt - stock, it only allows access to the slower 3G speeds.
Why would you want to disable the higher speed transfer?
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On a Tilt you can also go to Start / Programs / File Explorer / My Device / Windows / HSDPASwitch to enable and disable HSDPA. You can even create a shortcut to it and put it in your programs folder or start menu.
There's a lot of hidden goodies in the windows folder. Everyone should just browse through there and see if they find anything interesting. (Field Test is there too!)
-Jay
redsrule2500 said:
H is good. It's amazing. It's like cable internet in your pocket. (OK...but close...)
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I've clocked downloads at up to 1,200k over my Tilt.
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dgduris said:
I have the stock AT&T ROM in my Tilt. When it goes online, the 3G lights up first, then, when I am lucky, an H replaces it. The difference in speed is noticable when the H is on. You can use Kaiser Tweaks to enable HSDPA on the Tilt - stock, it only allows access to the slower 3G speeds.
Why would you want to disable the higher speed transfer?
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No I mean just the icon, I don't want the H icon. I just want 3G. For some reason when ever I look at it it makes me feel like its a slow speed.
~~Tito~~ said:
No I mean just the icon, I don't want the H icon. I just want 3G. For some reason when ever I look at it it makes me feel like its a slow speed.
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HSDPA is the fastest type of 3G available. Think of the H as the strongest possible connection.
In my city, I get 3G icon in the phone mode while not connected to the internet. While I was in Las Vegas, I get the H icon in the phone mode while not connected to the internet. It's strange but it's true. I've always thought the H icon is for data only but apparently H is also in phone mode too. I get the H icon in my city only when I'm usnig the AT&T's data and only while there's data session. When data is idle, it change back to 3G. But when I was in vegas, it never changed to 3G. It always displays H.
Jay2TheRescue said:
On a Tilt you can also go to Start / Programs / File Explorer / My Device / Windows / HSDPASwitch to enable and disable HSDPA. You can even create a shortcut to it and put it in your programs folder or start menu.
There's a lot of hidden goodies in the windows folder. Everyone should just browse through there and see if they find anything interesting. (Field Test is there too!)
-Jay
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when i go into the windows folder to look for the hsdpa switch i cant find that. can i be anywhere else.
jeff
cooljeff2 said:
when i go into the windows folder to look for the hsdpa switch i cant find that. can i be anywhere else.
jeff
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I don't know. That's where it is on my Tilt... You can always download Advanced Config or Kaiser Tweak to enable it as well.
-Jay
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I'm here in the middle of San Francisco. I just ran a test at www.dslreports.com/mspeed and NEVER saw the 3G icon change. I got 120 kbit/sec.
Anyone know if I need to do something to get it to switch to HSDPA? Anyone else in SF able to get higher speeds on this test?
Robert
If HSDPA / 3G coverage is available in your area, the phone will detect it - assuming that Settings > Connections > HSDPA > Turn on HSDPA is enabled.
Network speed performance can be affected by any number of factors including how heavy the network is being used by subscribers.
see here too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1567369#post1567369
rmcalhany said:
I'm here in the middle of San Francisco. I just ran a test at www.dslreports.com/mspeed and NEVER saw the 3G icon change. I got 120 kbit/sec.
Anyone know if I need to do something to get it to switch to HSDPA? Anyone else in SF able to get higher speeds on this test?
Robert
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I was in SF last week and was getting really good download speeds with the 3G turning to H al the time.
Possible Problem with No 3G
First, is this your first 3G device, from Cingular? If so, they may have skipped the "change of technology" step in the upgradeing process...I worked for Congular for 2 years...If they didn' do a change of technology you will only get edge speeds...Hope it helps....
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First, is this your first 3G device, from Cingular? If so, they may have skipped the "change of technology" step in the upgradeing process...I worked for Congular for 2 years...If they didn' do a change of technology you will only get edge speeds...Hope it helps....
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Hmmm, good point, my account online shows a line under the features list of "UMTS Compatible". I *thought* you wouldn't get the 3G icon either w/o that but not sure. FWIW I was getting HSDPA in some parts of the SFO airport last week and not others, so you just might be unlucky...
Richard
not sure if this would help but, how old is your sim card? does it say 3G on it?
I just switched to AT&T so the sim card is new. In an earlier post, isdereks said to go to settings > Connections > HSDPA.
Well, that may be the problem. In Connections, I don't have an icon that says HSDPA.
Thoughts?
thx
Robert
After you got your tilt, did you do cancel the custimizations to avoid having the bloatware loaded on your device? I read at the AT&T forums that one of the consequences of doing this is that you lose HSDPA from the connections tab:
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&thread.id=56257&page=2
Maybe this is what happened to you? If it did, you could do a hard reset and it will appear again with all teh bloatware.
MAXPOW3R said:
After you got your tilt, did you do cancel the custimizations to avoid having the bloatware loaded on your device? I read at the AT&T forums that one of the consequences of doing this is that you lose HSDPA from the connections tab:
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&thread.id=56257&page=2
Maybe this is what happened to you? If it did, you could do a hard reset and it will appear again with all teh bloatware.
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Nope. Didn't cancel anything. In fact the list of "missing programs" on that link you posted are ALL on my device EXCEPT the HSDPA program in settings.
Any other ideas?
Robert
Same here. I have a Tilt that also does not have the HSDPA setting in options. I use it in Wilmington, Delaware which is a 3G area. I also never get the H symbol when transferring data. However, on the dslreport speed test I get a speed of 432kbps. Might there be a registry setting that serves the same function as the HSDPA button under Connections?
P.S. I did not cancel auto customization and this is a brand new phone with only Opera installed.
432bps is above the 3G Max of 384kbps, so I'm guessing you're in fact in 3G+ already even if the logo isn't there. I get about the same speed with the logo on.
GpsPasSion said:
432bps is above the 3G Max of 384kbps, so I'm guessing you're in fact in 3G+ already even if the logo isn't there. I get about the same speed with the logo on.
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Could installing the Clean 3G Icon cab have screwed things up?
VidMan said:
Could installing the Clean 3G Icon cab have screwed things up?
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on the Tilt - the default icon for everything is the "E" - and i believe HSDPA may be off by default - there is a file call HSDPASwitch.exe in the \Windows directory - run this and see if the check box is checked - if not check it - not sure how to enable the 3G icon .. yet
gregross said:
on the Tilt - the default icon for everything is the "E" - and i believe HSDPA may be off by default - there is a file call HSDPASwitch.exe in the \Windows directory - run this and see if the check box is checked - if not check it - not sure how to enable the 3G icon .. yet
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Not in mine. Anyone else see this? FYI, I have 3G icon on ALL the time. Well, once yesterday I saw something else (I think it was E). I have never seen H and I've never seen speeds above 200kbps.
And unless I'm wrong, HSDPA is in a lot of the bay area. Any way to determine for sure if HSDPA is in the areas I frequent? Map?
Robert
rmcalhany said:
Not in mine. Anyone else see this? FYI, I have 3G icon on ALL the time. Well, once yesterday I saw something else (I think it was E). I have never seen H and I've never seen speeds above 200kbps.
And unless I'm wrong, HSDPA is in a lot of the bay area. Any way to determine for sure if HSDPA is in the areas I frequent? Map?
Robert
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you have a tilt? is "show all files" checked in file explorer? did you say you installed a 3g icon?
gregross said:
you have a tilt? is "show all files" checked in file explorer? did you say you installed a 3g icon?
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Now that was a good post. Good amount of info. No I hadn't checked "show all files." When I did that, I saw the file you were mentioning. HSDPA was checked.
I had not installed any 3G icon. It's just always been showing 3G (except briefly E over the weekend). Never seen H in 3 days. Never been above 200kbps.
R
rmcalhany said:
Now that was a good post. Good amount of info. No I hadn't checked "show all files." When I did that, I saw the file you were mentioning. HSDPA was checked.
I had not installed any 3G icon. It's just always been showing 3G (except briefly E over the weekend). Never seen H in 3 days. Never been above 200kbps.
R
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didn't intend to sound flip ....
strange - i haven't seen a 3g icon - but see H all the time - but i have done some tweaking - and enabled HSDPA as described above.
sounds like you are in a 3g area most of the time - hopefully you get HSDPA as well.
just reread the post - noticed you said HSDPA was checked - Not sure why you don't get faster speeds - have seen > 1000k
there is also an "enable HSDPA icon" registry setting - don't know of HSDPASwitch sets this or not - i will take a look for it -would at least let you know if the phone thinks it is in HSDPA
g
rmcalhany said:
It's just always been showing 3G (except briefly E over the weekend). Never seen H in 3 days. Never been above 200kbps.
R
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To restore the "H" icon when HSDPA data is in use, there's a registry tweak - thanks to HiwayFuzz for the tip:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\RIL and set EnableHSDPAIcon to 1
The first day i got my tilt I enabled the HSDPA connection. I connected to the internet and my 3G icon changed from a 3G to a H, then the internet was blazing, faster than my DSL i use at work.
Well in the last few days I noticed it doesn't go to H anymore, it just stays at 3G. I checked the registry and HSDPA is still enabled. I have add a lot of cabs since it was working. Does anyone know anything that controls the HSDPA besides the registry entry. any ideas on how to get it back?
For me, it only changes to an H when actually transferring data. It stays at 3G most of the time.
yes, thats what I was getting as well. But even when I am transferring data it still remains at 3G. I have yet to see it go to H in the last few days. Maybe the network is getting work, anyone in the Chicago area getting H?
Mr.Clark said:
For me, it only changes to an H when actually transferring data. It stays at 3G most of the time.
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That's what I observed.
I just got my Tilt last night, then called ATT and had the IMEI put in and made sure to ask that 3G is enabled.
However, I'm in my classroom in NYC right now, and all I get is an "E" above my bars, which I assume means edge. I have 3G turned on in comm manager, why am I not getting it?
I'm running dutty's touchflo rom for tilt beta, also i just ran a speedtest and it was 119kbps down so definitely not 3G, how can i fix this?
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I just got my Tilt last night, then called ATT and had the IMEI put in and made sure to ask that 3G is enabled.
However, I'm in my classroom in NYC right now, and all I get is an "E" above my bars, which I assume means edge. I have 3G turned on in comm manager, why am I not getting it?
I'm running dutty's touchflo rom for tilt beta, also i just ran a speedtest and it was 119kbps down so definitely not 3G, how can i fix this?
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It depends if there is 3G available in "that side of town"
Yes I've checked the coverage viewer, I mean I'm right in NYC and 3G was always active on my Helio Ocean when I had it.
When I am not actively using the deivce for transferring data, it seems to "fall back" to Edge. -Then when I transfer data I'll see the 3G or H icon to indicate a better / faster connection.
I am wondering if this isn't the desired funtionality to save power? -I have read in many many places that Edge is much more battery friendly than 3G and / or HSDPA
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Yes I've checked the coverage viewer, I mean I'm right in NYC and 3G was always active on my Helio Ocean when I had it.
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Where are u in NYC? Cross street? Area?
Im in mid-town with full 3G.
Also, if I'm not mistaken Helio runs on one of the CDMA networks(Sprint/Verizon), so having 3G on your Ocean wont necessarily mean that you'll have it on your Tilt.
i just had an idea if anyone has ever heard of something like this. i was wondering since touchflo can be enables and disables upon specific program titles... i was wondering if it would be possible to have a program to auto switch the 3G and HSPDA network upon specific programs as well.
for example: if internet explore is closed the 3G and HSPDA signal would be off, and the device would run off edge to conserve battery, and if internet explore is opened then it would switch the 3G and HSPDA signal on for internet browsing.
of course this can be implemented for specifc programs not just only for internet explore.
i was wondering has anyone ever heard of this before? or could possibly develope this?
sounds like bandswitch or commmgrpro to me, look at www.commmgrpro.com
I played around with Kaisertweak today, after hardresetting my phone and disalbing the att customizations. I enabled the HSPDAoption in the tweak settings and now the connection in the start bar shows "H" whereas before I Did all that it said 3G.
My question: Which one is faster on AT&T Network? I don't have data connection turned on but will be doing so soon, I can experiment but figured someone here could answer based on experience.
[edit] Found info here: Thread Link [/edit]
thank you i will give them both a test
dman7777 said:
I played around with Kaisertweak today, after hardresetting my phone and disalbing the att customizations. I enabled the HSPDAoption in the tweak settings and now the connection in the start bar shows "H" whereas before I Did all that it said 3G.
My question: Which one is faster on AT&T Network? I don't have data connection turned on but will be doing so soon, I can experiment but figured someone here could answer based on experience.
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With HSDPA it's suppose to be a bit faster than it being disabled and just using the norm 3G connection. I live in PA and when I had my Tilt on normal 3G it would lose signal when I went to new jersey but with HSDPA turned on it stayed longer before it dropped out but that was because I went from metro coverage to middle of nowhere in jersey.
I haven't noticed any appreciable DL speed difference with HSDPA activated or turned off (via KaiserTweak). I'm almost always in the Chicago metro area with plentiful UTMS and I also tend to revert to WiFi which is available almost everywhere here, so YMMV.
A week ago I got a second hand Tilt. It AT&T branded but a HTC rom was flashed to it, ROM version 3.28.405.0 WWE, Radio 1.65.17.56, Pototcol 25.83.40.02H.
My issue is I see not "3G" indicator on the screen in areas where I know there's coverage (my other phone does indicate 3G coverage). So what could this mean? Is something missing??
Any info is appreciated.
Thanks!
Headroom said:
A week ago I got a second hand Tilt. It AT&T branded but a HTC rom was flashed to it, ROM version 3.28.405.0 WWE, Radio 1.65.17.56, Pototcol 25.83.40.02H.
My issue is I see not "3G" indicator on the screen in areas where I know there's coverage (my other phone does indicate 3G coverage). So what could this mean? Is something missing??
Any info is appreciated.
Thanks!
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You mean there is not reception icon, or there is icon but it doesnt show 3G? What it shows then?
Headroom said:
Is something missing??
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Having already read the HTC User Manual for the TyTN II perhaps? If you get the pdf from HTCs website (or even search for it) and have a read, you'll see that in areas of 3G coverage, sometimes the device will display a 'H' which is superior to ordinary old 3G.
My issue is that I'm in an area with 3G coverage, my other cell indicates this with a "3G" icon on it's screen, but my tilt does not indicate or detects 3G coverage. There's no "3G" or "H" on my display.
Headroom said:
My issue is that I'm in an area with 3G coverage, my other cell indicates this with a "3G" icon on it's screen, but my tilt does not indicate or detects 3G coverage. There's no "3G" or "H" on my display.
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Can u post screenshot of your screen? What icons do u have there(on the upper bar)?
You may want to look for something like Kaiser Tweak or something else that disables 3g.. Also you can try tapping on the signal icon at the top and make sure that all the data/3g stuff is turned on at the bottom.
Don't know how to get screenshoot. On the top of the Today screen there's, from right to left, the task manager, the battery, the signal strength (just the little antenna and the bars) and the WiFi icon.
Where in Kaiser Tweak or Advanced Configuration Tool could disable 3G?
Kaiser Tweak = under Data
Advanced config = again, under Data.
Tried it...no joy!
Went to Adv. Config. and eneble everything under data connections. Still nothing.
Does your sim support 3G?
Headroom said:
Went to Adv. Config. and eneble everything under data connections. Still nothing.
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Did you check in Advance config to see if just the icons are turned of ? I believe you can just turn the icons off ( because some people find them annoying ) but still call and connect at 3G speed. Are you lacking speed or just the icons. ?
Let me re-state
I've had this Tilt for about a week, my other cell (Samsung A737) indicates "3G" all the time while I'm at work so yes my sim is 3G. This Tilt has never indicated "3G".
I went to Adv. Config under data connections and enabled everything.
What I'm trying to figure out, is this Tilt unable to detect "3G" or is it a missing icon thing.
IF
1. you have a 3g sim
2. Kaiser Tweak and Advanced config don't have 3g disabled
3. you don't have the "nodata.cab" installed
4. 3G data is turned on in the comm manager
5. HSDPA is turned on in /settings/connections/advanced network
6. All the proper info is set for your connection "media net"
and you still don't have 3g.
I would say at the very least do a hard reset or update your ROM.
Anything I'm missing?
Ok...more data...new questions
Where in Comm Manager can turn 3G on/off?
What does Medianet settings has to do with 3G?
Thanks for your answers ChumleyEX!
Headroom said:
Don't know how to get screenshoot. On the top of the Today screen there's, from right to left, the task manager, the battery, the signal strength (just the little antenna and the bars) and the WiFi icon.
Where in Kaiser Tweak or Advanced Configuration Tool could disable 3G?
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Hehe, when u have wifi enabled the 3G icon changes to the wifi icon, just try to turn of wifi and see if the 3g,H,E or G icon will appear.
That's a thought Mikulec! Tomorrow at work I will try this. I'm home now & reception here is crap!
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Ok...more data...new questions
Where in Comm Manager can turn 3G on/off?
What does Medianet settings has to do with 3G?
Thanks for your answers ChumleyEX!
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do some research and you will find all the answers you seak.
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I'm sorry ChumleyEX but that's not an answer...I dont have a data plan so MediaNet is, in my opinion, not an issue. Like I said before, that didn't keep my other (and less sophisticated cell) from detecting 3G coverage... anyway more data!!
I tried turnning off wifi to see if wifi icon becomes "3G", that doesn't work, the wifi icon gets an "X" over it & does not become "3G".
Yesterday I found out that if you try to make a video call the cell tells you if there's a 3G network available, so I tried this in my office & it answers no 3G network available.
Last night I started experimenting with flashing, I knew this cell had been flashed before by someone else, for one this is an AT&T branded Tilt but the previous owner has using it on another carrier and when I access the bootloader among the information there was "Spl 1.0 Olipro".
I flashed a couple of Hard SPLs & a couple of radios to try and it got me thinking, could the lack of "3G" be a radio or ROM issue??
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I'm sorry ChumleyEX but that's not an answer...I dont have a data plan so MediaNet is, in my opinion, not an issue. Like I said before, that didn't keep my other (and less sophisticated cell) from detecting 3G coverage... anyway more data!!
I tried turnning off wifi to see if wifi icon becomes "3G", that doesn't work, the wifi icon gets an "X" over it & does not become "3G".
Yesterday I found out that if you try to make a video call the cell tells you if there's a 3G network available, so I tried this in my office & it answers no 3G network available.
Last night I started experimenting with flashing, I knew this cell had been flashed before by someone else, for one this is an AT&T branded Tilt but the previous owner has using it on another carrier and when I access the bootloader among the information there was "Spl 1.0 Olipro".
I flashed a couple of Hard SPLs & a couple of radios to try and it got me thinking, could the lack of "3G" be a radio or ROM issue??
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It definitely could be radio rom issue, but ... I am flashoholic, that means I flash almost every rom that comes out. And on most roms that I flashed the 3G icon changes after some time to the X, but after going to the internet via gprs the 3G appears once again. I dont know why is this happining, there was a disscusion about this, but I dont know in which thread.
The funny thing is although I have the X icon, I am in 3G area and I can make video calls and use the 3G cappabilities. So I dontknow why u can not.
" I knew this cell had been flashed before by someone else, for one this is an AT&T branded Tilt but the previous owner has using it on another carrier and when I access the bootloader among the information there was "Spl 1.0 Olipro"
So it's possible that the media net info is incorrect. Also, your simple phone that has the 3G show up is just that, a simple phone. This tilt isn't so simple.
if this link works, download the file and run it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=70973&d=1203219889