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Hello everyone,
I would like to start this new thread with a different purpose than trying to explorer the latest and gratest of releases of ROMs, extensions, software and patches.
I have tested many of the releases posted here and I have yet to find one that offer a rock solid unit that can be depended on in all situations.
What I would like is to put together a package based on the best of all available that offer the highest reliability available for our device.
It's very annoying to have to reset the device, somtimes more than one time in one day because you loose GPRS connectivety or because you turn on the WiFi card at an unlucky moment and lock up the device.
It's very annoying that you press the answer button repeatedly but have trouble picking up the rining phone.
It's very annoying that you try to make a call, but the phone keeps hanging up without making the call until you reset the phone subsystem.
It's very annoying that you pick up the device to make a call only to find that for some reason the phone has been locked up for hours with the screen on and now you are out of power and far away from your charger.
It's very annoying that your screen gets garbled and you find that you are unable to get the display back to normal without resetting the device.
It's very annoying that bluetooth more or less have turned out to be a marketing item only, since we have yet to se an implementation on the device that works (and maybe we never will)
If you agree with me or/and have experienced some or probably all of the above and have some input you would like to share on what is the best release, or have software and patched that have made a difference to you, then please contribute and maybe we could one day have a reliable operating system and software pack on our PDA that we can actually trust to handle the important task of keeping us connected to the rest of the information based world 24/7.
I hope many people will participate in this thread and that we can get to a release of software that we can all feel happy about, since it seems that none of the providers have been able to accomplish this task.
Michael
Fully agreed with you. And here is my BA config:
- MDA III with 1 Gb SD (Trandcent 80x)
- ROM 1.40 & radio 1.12
- Big storage - No Extended ROM
- Excluded nearly all software from WWE 1.40 ExtROM. Install only patched
Most apps are installed to storage :lol:
- Pocket Informant 2005 (In main memory)
- Pocket breeze 5 (In main memory)
- Pocket Player 2.6
- Sound Explorer 2005
- Pocket Navigator 2.74
- Sprite backup 3.1.4
- Mobile Pocket reader 5.0
- Total Commander 2.0
- Adobe Acrobat Reader 2.0 for PPC
- Tools: Cab Installer, vxUtils, Tascal Reg. Editor TRE 0.9, calculator, stop time ...
Full backup with Sprite backup 3.1.4, excutable archive file so that I can restore to a fully loaded system righ after hard reset. The backup is also in storage.
With this config the phone is very stable. On average 1 soft reset/week, mostly due to phone problem (I work in a building with very week GSM signal).
here here!
while ive not bothered to update for exactly one year now, i truely couldn't be bothered with the rom backup, new rom, install settings, settings restore, all to find out that... oh others are still having a problem with phones hanging/not connecting, because you used bluetooth and didn't reset before using gprs. of course, silly me!
right now i'm looking for a stable basic setup, with Tomtom 5 (bt gps mouse) and gprs useage... and possibly, using them together!
it does seem experimenting is only way to do so...
What a good idea - however, after one year of updating ROMs I do not think that there is a stable system for this device after all ...
I cannot use my Qtek for business because
- I am not sure whether I will miss a call because my Qtek somehow decides not to ring
- I am never sure whether I can finish a call decently (or the devices shuts down on its own)
And I am tired of resetting the device before and after
- using WLAN
- using BT
Currently, I am on
ROM 1.42.01 GER
Radio 1.12.00
ExtROM 1.42.116 GER
which still has all the flaws mentioned above.
This is the 4th different ROM I have installed (WWE, GER). I mainly use it for storing contact info and meetings.
A
I still wan't to try.
I'm using a configuration of 1.40 and 1.12. This is OK, but the phone app is still quite unstable and the device itself will hang. Most trouble seems to be when you press a key at an unlucky split second when the unit is trying to do something else, this often leads to lockups.
Does anyone have any input regarding the version numbers to use? Especially is 1.42 or 1.31 better than 1.40? and is 1.12 better than 1.13 or vice versa?
What about patches and registry hacks, what do you consider being a vital patch or hack to improva stability dramatically ... ? If any.
I hope to get some input from you guys that install every single thing and have gained allot of input on what works and what doesn't?
Michael
This combination seems to be vert stable for Scandinavians
I have had very good results so far with this combination:
BA_DT_WWE_NorwayRetail_14000_149_11200_Ship.exe
Then install:
86794-9090_radio_upgrade_1.15.00.zip
This is so far the bes experience I have had while I had the device.
Michael
Update
After a while, I have observed that I'm still having the GPRS connect problem and I have therefore installed the:
IA_CallerID_1.20_WWE.CAB
I will update my experience in a while. So far I like this combination, except that GPRS cinnection problem. I haven't had many other problems. There has been a little "flutter" around Blue Tooth and TomTom, If you try to start TomTom with BT disabled, you sometimes seem to grid lock until you re-boot.
Extended ROMs
Is it my imagination? The higher the extended ROM version the less stabillity? It seems to me that way. The more stuff they add, the less overall stability you get. Does anyone have a different experience?
Michael
jamcow said:
here here!
while ive not bothered to update for exactly one year now, i truely couldn't be bothered with the rom backup, new rom, install settings, settings restore, all to find out that... oh others are still having a problem with phones hanging/not connecting, because you used bluetooth and didn't reset before using gprs. of course, silly me!
right now i'm looking for a stable basic setup, with Tomtom 5 (bt gps mouse) and gprs useage... and possibly, using them together!
it does seem experimenting is only way to do so...
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i find that when upgrading to the new WM5 roms, that all my files, programs and settings, even contacts and messages are all still as i left them, i just put the device into bootloader and plonk into the cradle, then start upgrade 2 mins later its done, all new features and nothing that is usually backed up is changed.
The best stabillity so far
I'm still running with the configuration outlined in my previous posts. And it's pretty stable, the only problems I seem to be affected by are:
After 1 to 7 days the GPRS connection fails and I have to reset the device to get it working.
Rarely some applications and the phone gets in a bind somehow, probably by starting at the same time in an incompatible way and lock up the phone. I have to reboot the device to get out of that.
The phone part itself seems to be stable and I have no missing sound or low volume issues.
I had good bluetooth functionality, but since paring my device with my GPS I can't get the device to connect correctly to my headset. I will pair up and then when it tries to connect it fails. I'm unsure what that's about. I don't use the bluetooth headset much, so I haven't been bothered much by this, but I would ofcourse prefer if everything was working as you would expect it to!
I would upgrade my base ROM to 1.42, but my testing and experiences with that have been that it's more unstable than 1.40.
I'm even more convinced now that I'm right about the extended ROM thing, the higher the version of extended ROM to more problems (potential problems).
Any input on stability are very welcome, I would love to find a near perfect configuration where most things work 100% and all the time.
Michael
I have installed the 1.12.10 GSM on it after making backups with aWizard. I am happy to report that it does work and that it does speed up the initial connection. Before (with 1.09.11 I beleive) I could log into (enter my PIN) and would still have some time before I would connect and get signal bars. It also seemed to increase refresh rates of the bars. Now the signal is usually found before I even finish entering my PIN muchless the today screen loading.
These tests were made in my basement at my house where I typically have been getting 1-3 bars. now to test 1.13.10 and 2.8 OS to see if it works.
I will say I thought it broke at first because I couldn't get my PC to talk to it after it reloaded, then I did another soft reset and the boot screen the second time didn't list the GSM version, even though the OS did see and use GSM. I re-ran the CID unlock procedure again since I could talk to the phone again. Reset again and GSM ver was on the boot screen again.
I also swapped out the boot screen for a bmp and that worked wonderfully. my only question is if there is a way to swap out the booting screen of the OS and not just the IPL Rom.
cheers,
ET
I have just done the RUU install of 2.16.9.101 which also upgrades IPL/SPL to 2.16. It changed my radio version to 2.7.10 and my protocol version is 413.1.0.3. This ROM date is 2/6/06.
Immediate differences are the battery notification is now at the top where on Cingular's ROM it was at the bottom next to the comm switch program. That and everything is I-Mate branded. No Get Good, but instead now I have I-Mate backgammon and Skype. And instead of the Cingular Mail link now there is an I-Mate mail link.
I will update later with more.
More... OS ver 5.1.195 build 14847.2.0.0 IDK if this is different or not.
Update 11AM: I have tested more. ZPhone themes I can't seem to install... IDK why but with the original Cingular ROM I couldn't either. The original ROM had a bug that used the proxy of the modem setting on the wifi setting making wifi not work unless you went and disabled it since it is enabled by default. This new rom after installing "Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab" to get MediaNet back, wifi just works. Even with the Proxy set on the modem connection. My Bluetooh headset (Jabra HT800) works great. Comm Manager is real nice. Even showing you the status of SMS and GPRS/EDGE connection. I want to play with it a little more to see if I can control those two or not. Gone from teh Cingular ROM is the ability to click on the Edge status icon in the notification area and tell it to turn on Wifi. But the Turn on Flight Mode still exists under the Cell Strength bar. Signal strength is comperable to the 1.12.10 radio rom I had before the upgrade. And IDK if it is taking longer to load from a reset or not, but before the Phone radio would be up and running just as I was finishing putting in my PIN unlock. But now it is running and connected before I can even start to input it. Just observation, that extra second doesn't mean anything.
I also have the 8125, so I am curious if the Imate ROM will cause any problems after the upgrade. I am not sure I want to wait a few more months until Cingular gets around to providing their upgrade.
Some other posters with the test/beta Qtek AKU 2.0 rom reported that they had trouble with the device resetting itself and problems with Wi-Fi. Let us know if you experience any issues with this ROM.
How has EDGE speed been, any improvements over the shipped ROM? Have you tried push email?
ok, i updated my 8125 to the new rom and am having two issues atm. first, the phone signal icon and the battery icon on the today screen is cut off so i only see the edge icon. secondly, i cannot start wifi at all, no matter what i do :\ (it looks like it's thinking but doesn't actually turn on ) now i did apply the cingular extended rom to this so i dont know if that caused both issues or not. as for edge performance, i'm in an area with bad signal so i couldnt exactly test it. i'm going to be clearing storage tonight and see if that fixes both issues or not. i haven't tested push e-mail as clubimates servers AREN'T supporting direct push (ie they don't have SP2 installed or have it enabled on exchange).
Locked up
Well I am noticing that it is locking up if I let it sit for a while to where I can't bring it back up. I have disabled the lock code to see if that fixes it.
I would have a feeling that the problems you are having are because of the enhanced rom difference. it won't hurt to try it as is like I did since you are having problems with it.
were can I fine install
I look for the rom in the ftp but there is no RUU install of 2.16.9.101 can you please tell me where can I fin this rom
thank you
Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42638
Scroll down to HTTP server link.
Cheers
thanks
thank you for giving the info on where to get the link. I have been away from a pc today.
as an update: the phone seems to be stable with the new rom (I am actually using the phone now using edge and it seems faster than my old phone was which was a nokia.)
I haven't had it lock up on me since I uninstalled battery pack pro, disabled lock code, and uninstalled skype & backgammon so take your pick as to what fixed it. I will do some more expereriments to try and figure iit out.
later,
ET
Are you having the same issues as darkjedi who said he's having problems with WiFi and signal strength icon?
after the upgrade i cant find the GPS ICON
even i try to delete the redirect string in the registry like i used to do before
still i cant see the icon on my setting page
please anyone noticed this problem ?
tx
exchguy said:
Are you having the same issues as darkjedi who said he's having problems with WiFi and signal strength icon?
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i finally fixed the signal strength icon (but don't ask me how), but wifi is still borked
no more problems, lock ups or otherwise
My guess with my problems were related to Battery Pack Pro demo. Even on the original rom I couldn't get it to work right with the assignable hard keys.
Anyway, I did not modify the original EXE one bit like darkjedi said he did. He seems to be much more advanced as I don't know how to do what he did and not that familier with its registry settings yet. But I naver had any problems with Wifi nor with icon placement.
My home wifi does use WPS-PSK TKIP using a Netgear WG302. Battery life seems good, but I do get a little crackle every now and then on my end of the bluetooth handsfree. People I talk to haven't said they hear anything other than perfect clarity. I would have been told if they heard anything since part of my reason to spend the money now rather than later was my voice and signal quality on my old Nokia was getting to be bad and they wouldn't waste a second ragging me if voice and signal problems were re-appearing. But mostly the crackle is few and far between and usually when my headset is on the other side of my body or I am a few feet away from my phone.
i didn't modify the original EXE, i installed it as normal, then after the fact, copied the cingular extended ROM then installed each cab manually. i didn't get a chance to try wifi before i applied the extended rom, but i just might hard reset and try that.
i dnt see the rush to upgrade if u have a cingular 8125 since there goa offer rom upgrades for the unit. with all the bugs i rather just get a ad2 bt plugin (wish they made it) and just do that
what roms do they offer? On my past phones I have had to have major problems before they would flash a new version of the Rom (my last 2 symbian phones).
darkjedi said:
i didn't modify the original EXE, i installed it as normal, then after the fact, copied the cingular extended ROM then installed each cab manually. i didn't get a chance to try wifi before i applied the extended rom, but i just might hard reset and try that.
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ok... the only cab I installed for Cingular was the one I mentioned earlier. I have since installed spb power plus and their weather app and I am still stable. Not one failuer and my bluetooth is actually acting better from some reason. I was working on my car today with teh phone in the car and I was about 10 feet away without any noise or other problems.
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ethorn said:
thank you for giving the info on where to get the link. I have been away from a pc today.
as an update: the phone seems to be stable with the new rom (I am actually using the phone now using edge and it seems faster than my old phone was which was a nokia.)
I haven't had it lock up on me since I uninstalled battery pack pro, disabled lock code, and uninstalled skype & backgammon so take your pick as to what fixed it. I will do some more expereriments to try and figure iit out.
later,
ET
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Is there any settings to configure edge? I only see GPRS in the connections section.
This version appears quite stable but's only my second day since upgrading my 8125 from the QTECH 2.8.7.102. I really like the Comm manager and the Push Email icon works great.
Thanks!
name of account
the only thing that I have notice so far is that the name of my celular company (I could see before upgrade) now i only see numbers.
exchguy said:
I also have the 8125, so I am curious if the Imate ROM will cause any problems after the upgrade. I am not sure I want to wait a few more months until Cingular gets around to providing their upgrade.
Some other posters with the test/beta Qtek AKU 2.0 rom reported that they had trouble with the device resetting itself and problems with Wi-Fi. Let us know if you experience any issues with this ROM.
How has EDGE speed been, any improvements over the shipped ROM? Have you tried push email?
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On the new imate ROM I'm getting between 65 and 110 kbps on edge. Latency is still crap at about 1.5 seconds on average, but that's what it's always been for me.
Direct push is great. Assuming you have Exch SP2 installed, push works without any other changes. I'm averaging between 7 and 10 seconds for an entry to push out after it gets to Exchange. I haven't installed the device management tools yet, but I'll do that soon and let you know how well they work.
I just noticed wifi isn't working. If I enable it in comm manager, the button is ringed in green as if it's on, but the left green led does not blink and it does not detect my open, unsecured access point. I did install the cabs from my original cingular extended rom, and one of those appears realted to wifi, but not sure what it does. I'll mess around some more and see what I can do. I'm not totally heartbroken that wifi is messed up, but it does bug me that I don't know why it aint working.
Need Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab file
ethorn said:
I have just done the RUU install of 2.16.9.101 which also upgrades IPL/SPL to 2.16. It changed my radio version to 2.7.10 and my protocol version is 413.1.0.3. This ROM date is 2/6/06.
Immediate differences are the battery notification is now at the top where on Cingular's ROM it was at the bottom next to the comm switch program. That and everything is I-Mate branded. No Get Good, but instead now I have I-Mate backgammon and Skype. And instead of the Cingular Mail link now there is an I-Mate mail link.
I will update later with more.
More... OS ver 5.1.195 build 14847.2.0.0 IDK if this is different or not.
Update 11AM: I have tested more. ZPhone themes I can't seem to install... IDK why but with the original Cingular ROM I couldn't either. The original ROM had a bug that used the proxy of the modem setting on the wifi setting making wifi not work unless you went and disabled it since it is enabled by default. This new rom after installing "Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab" to get MediaNet back, wifi just works. Even with the Proxy set on the modem connection. My Bluetooh headset (Jabra HT800) works great. Comm Manager is real nice. Even showing you the status of SMS and GPRS/EDGE connection. I want to play with it a little more to see if I can control those two or not. Gone from teh Cingular ROM is the ability to click on the Edge status icon in the notification area and tell it to turn on Wifi. But the Turn on Flight Mode still exists under the Cell Strength bar. Signal strength is comperable to the 1.12.10 radio rom I had before the upgrade. And IDK if it is taking longer to load from a reset or not, but before the Phone radio would be up and running just as I was finishing putting in my PIN unlock. But now it is running and connected before I can even start to input it. Just observation, that extra second doesn't mean anything.
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Where did you get the "Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab" file? I have searched everywhere and cannot find it! Help?
Please help me out with this, I'm getting very annoyed, upset and whatever else you can think of. Two days ago, I brought my Tilt into the ATT service center because of a problem, and they replaced it with a brand new Tilt. My older one was running 6.0 but this new one is running 6.1 WinMo, which I fear is the culprit here.
I get full HSPA bars here in NYC (kaiser tweak) under most circumstances, and it stays this way while I'm surfing the net and such but, whenever I make a phone call, it automatically switches to G ! ? There are times when it might go through with EDGE *the call*, but it's seldom. I never had this problem before the phone switch. It also happens without using Kaiser Tweak, with 3G. And while I AM able to use the phone with G, I feel that this might pose a problem at some point, and would like the phone to be able to reach its full potential or.. just be the way it was.
Help is seriously needed !
Doug
dougrb said:
Please help me out with this, I'm getting very annoyed, upset and whatever else you can think of. Two days ago, I brought my Tilt into the ATT service center because of a problem, and they replaced it with a brand new Tilt. My older one was running 6.0 but this new one is running 6.1 WinMo, which I fear is the culprit here.
I get full HSPA bars here in NYC (kaiser tweak) under most circumstances, and it stays this way while I'm surfing the net and such but, whenever I make a phone call, it automatically switches to G ! ? There are times when it might go through with EDGE *the call*, but it's seldom. I never had this problem before the phone switch. It also happens without using Kaiser Tweak, with 3G. And while I AM able to use the phone with G, I feel that this might pose a problem at some point, and would like the phone to be able to reach its full potential or.. just be the way it was.
Help is seriously needed !
Doug
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i think theyre still using EDGE / 2G for voice calls.. not all markets have switched to 3G/HSDPA voice
I too have the same issue. I'm not saying a problem, cause in my opinion it is not. When a call is made it switches back to gprs. It takes about 30 secs after the call to switch it back to hsdpa. It is probably a bug or perhaps a lack of your carrier.
BTW. I'm with T-mobile Holland, perhaps it is network related.
What I'm trying to convey though is that my other phone (which was exchanged because I thought the top of the slider was loose) did not behave like this. It kept its full H bars through every call. And the only difference between the two phones is that the previous one ran WinMo 6.0 and this one runs 6.1
They DO use HSPA here in NYC, you have to turn it on with Kaiser tweak in order to use it, though.
Doug
u nailed it 2 times on the head here..
kaiser tweak..and ur stock winmo 6.1
- kaiser tweak is an essential tool for a kaiser..never leave it behind after a flash and always enable ur HSDPA
- winmo 6.1 is a dirty dirty devil, what i suggest is to reflash and use a good radio..i live in Central New Jersey and im in and out of NY daily ( midtown / diamond district ) and i have yet to experience a dropped call!
im running the below mentioned rom and radio..give it a go..most likely u wont be disappointed!
Jstar
JstarLuvsTina said:
u nailed it 2 times on the head here..
kaiser tweak..and ur stock winmo 6.1
- kaiser tweak is an essential tool for a kaiser..never leave it behind after a flash and always enable ur HSDPA
- winmo 6.1 is a dirty dirty devil, what i suggest is to reflash and use a good radio..i live in Central New Jersey and im in and out of NY daily ( midtown / diamond district ) and i have yet to experience a dropped call!
im running the below mentioned rom and radio..give it a go..most likely u wont be disappointed!
Jstar
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Well, it's interesting. Paulbates over at hofo suggests (and I agree w/him) that it would have been silly for them to release a ROM which did this, and we'd see tons of threads here and elsewhere about it if it were the case. I only asserted though, that the radio version might not like the area in which I live yada yada..
As soon as the problem started however, I did install Kaiser Tweak, and enabled HSDA. It worked as usual, but the H disappears just as fast as 3G was disappearing, so it makes no difference. I'm also experiencing data connectivity issues on this phone for the first time ever. Last night, even with full E or H bars, as I tried to open Opera or PIE, I'd get an error saying I had no data session open and the web page wasn't available. I tried many different pages of course, so it was the phone.. This never happened with my other phone, and I'm really regretting having taken it back now.
P.S. as far as changing the ROM and radio, I'm very inexperienced (re: have never done it before) and will wait to see if changing the phone makes a difference first. I only wish they had given me an exchange phone with 6.0 on it. Even the guy at the shop said that a lot of people have been complaining about 6.1. Do you live in NYC btw ? If so, perhaps I will take your advice about changing the ROM/Radio myself. Only thing is though, I run Linux. I do also have a Macbook Pro.. Can I do it with either of those OS's ?
Doug
Oh this is so very annoying... I just brought the phone into the store and they replaced it again. The girl I dealt with was very nice, and went through testing it out, and agreed that it was indeed doing something it shouldn't be doing. She even swapped the SIM card, but it was still the same. I then got a new (refurb of course) and it seemed to stay on E in the store, but then I wandered outside into Bryant Park (where I am now) and the same ol' junk occurred.
The last call I made actually stayed on Edge, but that was about 1 of 7 calls. Not only that, but now my voice mail doesn't work either... It asks if I have an account, then prompts me to put in my phone number. When I do, it says it's not a valid account. I'm really regretting switching my phone over, big time.
I'm going to call CS and see what they have to say (yes, we know the network isn't solid right now, but we're "working on it") Yah...
This really puts me off, but if they can't do anything, I'll start messing with the ROMS. It's just that my download speed right now sucks, too. Can someone direct me to a mobile internet speed test, which is good ? I tried toast.net, but it's too slow to load anything on any of the servers. And speedtest.net requires flash, but those probably aren't very good for mobile phones, anyway.
Doug
Not sure how this has come about but I used to be able to connect to internet really easily through my work laptop when the TyTn II was connected by either Bluetooth or USB. Now I don't seem to be able to connect to either????
When connecting through USB I seem to be able to connect to the PC via 'Internet Sharing' which also lights up the 'Data Connection' icon but when I try to use IE it just says 'Cannot connect using current settings'. Thing is, I haven't changed anything and it used to work fine. Getting a bit fed up with the whole TyTn II at moment as I seem to spend more time fathoming why it's not doing what I want than doing it. Beginning to think a seperate phone/PDA may be best way ahead.
Unsure of whether the problem is related to the official 6.1 upgrade or the install of NoData (as I got fed up with accidentally hitting the weather and Quick GPS refresh and having the phone eat money).
Regardless of what I try I can't seem to get it to connect to internet albeit phone shows as connected via both Bluetooth or USB.
Short of solving this (and I'm not sure where to start) I'm temted to do a reflash and leave out things like No Data etc etc and just see if it works again. Bit of a nuisance really.
Tried searching all manner of related topics but no joy so far
It is a problem with the WM 6.1 official HTC update
I had exactly the same problem in reverse with my TyTN II when it was running the WM 6.1 (the same official HTC ROM that you have). By 'in reverse' I mean I couldn't initially do internet related things on the TyTN II using my home internet (either via USB or Bluetooth connection). It was fine before but after the upgrade thats when the problem occurred. I didn't have any additional software installed apart from Tomtom Navigator 6.032 (HTC Version) so I don't think your NoData install will be to blame (at least not solely). I did manage to get pocket IE working under these circumstances though after I had a fiddle around in the connections tab under settings - or was it Activesyncs settings.... I could never get the automatic Quick GPS updates to occur though, even under those settings and I still had to manually update (although it did use the home internet connection when I did this).
I remember that I changed a drop down selection from something along the lines of this device is connected to 'Auto' to make it 'The Internet'. Sorry for being so vague but I've now reverted to the original WM 6.0 ROM (more precisely I had HTC do it for free under the warranty) and none of the options I'm looking at now ring any bells. Perhaps someone else recalls more clearly what settings change is required.
I think the most important part of your post is:
Empgamer said:
Getting a bit fed up with the whole TyTn II at moment as I seem to spend more time fathoming why it's not doing what I want than doing it.
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Thats how I felt about the HTC upgrade that wasn't. I was quick to go down the upgrade path but since it's been back with WM 6.0 other than a few uncommanded resets in the first day or two which haven't since reoccured, the device is now rock solid again. Of course it'd be nice to think the latest HTC upgrade didn't introduce more problems than were already present but in my experience their current update is more trouble than it's worth (and you haven't even mentioned GPS). If you decide you want it reverted under warranty, I found the HTC Repair Centre (at least here in the UK) to do a fine job of it. I dropped off my phone in the morning, after booking it in over ther phone the day before and it was ready at the end of the same day.
Flying Kiwi said:
If you decide you want it reverted under warranty, I found the HTC Repair Centre (at least here in the UK) to do a fine job of it. I dropped off my phone in the morning, after booking it in over ther phone the day before and it was ready at the end of the same day.
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Or you can always download the original shipped roms here off the wiki and flash it yourself. It only takes about 10 minutes. You dont have to download a special SPL for an OEM rom
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
The spl is an issue - reverting it
pyraxiate said:
Or you can always download the original shipped roms here off the wiki and flash it yourself.
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I was tempted to do that myself (and even asked HTC for the downgrade file to do so) but there are a couple of issues for those of us that like to keep things 'HTC Official'. A big one for me is that since HTC was responsible for creating the buggy WM 6.1 ROM, they should also accept responsibility for fixing it (fat chance of that, I agree with what -888- wrote in the WM 6.0 vs. WM 6.1 thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432482&page=4 along the lines of the best developers being assigned to the latest and greatest products). If they're not going to fix it, then they should at least revert the device to a reliable state. I was in a fortunate position to be in the area of the HTC Repair Centre but if it means sending the phone away, I understand why some might prefer the DIY option.
It only takes about 10 minutes. You dont have to download a special SPL for an OEM rom
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There's alot to digest about ROM (and Radio and spl) flashing in the wiki and that takes much more than 10 mins. Although a special spl such as hardSPL isn't used with the HTC official setups, the spl does need to be reverted from the 3.28 version with the official WM 6.1 WWE, back to a 1.xx version with WM 6.0 for proper functioning. That isn't just a simple case of running the RUU program like the upgrade to WM 6.1 was - it has to be manually reverted (presumably using something like jumpSPL and the procedure in the wiki for restoring a device for warranty purposes) so it gets more complicated. I was expecting spl version something along the lines of 1.56 on my WM 6.0 setup (to match the ROM numbers) but they installed 1.93, presumably because it was more reliable or offered other performance benifits. Perhaps the ideal spl is in the package already but again this cant just be run like the WM 6.1 upgrade was so there's some jiggery pokery involved
I tend to agree. Not sure why I really bothered with 6.1. One of the first things I did was use Kaiser Tweaks to turn threaded SMS off.
I didn't realise that reverting to WM 6.0 would require more than reflashing so that makes it a little more problematic. I'm not near a HTC Centre. The whole device certainly seems more buggy under 6.1 than it did before and this internet through laptop problem is a nuisance. Being fairly unimpressed with Co-Pilot I don't use GPS that much and, withe the aside that i think I've used the keyboard twice since I had it (another 'essential' I'd put on my list for phone/PDA attributes), I'm beginning to wonder if return to factor state and sell it might not be the better option, reverting to a Nokia E51 and Ipaq 214 Enterprise combination
Post is an option.
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I'm beginning to wonder if return to factor state and sell it might not be the better option, reverting to a Nokia E51 and Ipaq 214 Enterprise combination
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Of course it's up to you but don't forget that even though you may not be near a HTC Repair Centre, you could still call them up on the phone to make the booking and post the device to them once you've arranged to have it reverted. They should do it for free but confirm this so you don't get any unpleasant surprises.
hi all i have a attt tilt with my own custom rom based in the original htc kaiser spanish rom and the radio 1.71.09 o what ever how it is... i never used this device as phone until one month ago (i change my phone and operator), well when i was using the device as pocket pc never show a problem, but when i install the sim from my new operator Claro Chile, the problem starts, the device some times stuck, its sticky, almost all time it related to the phone part, i mean phone contacts, gprs-edge-3g-h, phone dialer, write text messages (its painfull keyboard eat 50% of the letters)... i can say that happen 95% with the phone things...
any ideas? maybe my brand new sim its not working fine? i set the network to manual, picked ClaroCHL (here are 3 ones, Claro, Movistar, Entel) and even disable otherones that appear in the chip like Claro Brazil, Claro Argentina (i suppose that are for roaming)....
Regards!
I'm not sure what's wrong because I don't know how bad the delays are. On my phone, I had delays too. It seems doubtful that the delays you experience are related to a SIM card: they rather seem to be caused by the standard phone software's being slow in itself.
- Delays in simply calling and finding contacts in your lists might be solved by installing a different program to handle this. Resco Contact Manager, for example, is very fast on my phone. The standard HTC phone program sucks, the one that came with PDACorner's ROM was quite slow as well on my phone.
- The keyboard's eating letters depends on the repeat rate and first repeat values in your phone's registry. They can be altered by going to settings, buttons, up-down buttons (I think that's where it was; I remember it was a funny location). There are many threads on this; find them through Google. They have advice on proper values.
- Sometimes my phone takes a very long time (and I mean 30sec+) to open text messages or e-mail; I haven't been able to fix this. It is weird, as it opens them instantly at other times.
hi there!, my kaiser dosnt have delays, got coma states xDDDD, its dosnt respond the screen and the imput for like 2 minutes, its seems to be related to the Claro signal, i am using GSM to disable 3G/H for the battery life and maybe sometimes the radio cant find a good setup for that and start sucking... i gonna do some tweaks on my rom (or remove some of my tweaks), and start using the phone with 3G, about the keyboard i got working perfect, just when i wrote sms its faild due sms its a program that use the cell phone part, regards!
Ah okay, those freezes sound really weird, I have never experienced anything like that on my phone, but I am far from an expert. I have used different ROMs, and my phone sometimes can't find signals, keeps searching for a long time et cetera - but it never stops responding. Good luck with that... by the way, it seems a waste of your phone's capabilities to not use 3G! I'd rather buy a 1600 mAh than not use 3G. Or even carry a spare battery with me.