Good day all. I have spent three days reading this forum, great stuff. I bought the SK Tooks program and have deleted the PTT button per another thread. I have also set up the internet sharing like my 8525 per another post, many thanks for all the above.
One I did not find. I want to delete unneeded programs and games. I am on the AT&T ROM. When I go to Settings|Programs|remove Programs, only a few are shown. I would like to delete the following:
Programs|
Media Net Home
AT&T Mall
AT&T Music
Cellular Video
Push To Talk
Programs|Games & Apps
Get TelNav
MobilTV
Plus a few others probably. Am I out of luck?
From what I understand those things are on the ROM and can't be removed unless you flash the ROM with something else.
Actually, all the bloatware programs are in the menu you accessed. But, you apparently overlooked the sub-menus. Go back to the Window directory and with a little searching, you will find them and be able to delete.
Also, for the sample games, open the Java folder and there is an option under menu to remove all of the files.
Some people have gotten around this by doing a hard reset, then before the AT&T customization starts, do a soft reset. I used this method, however, I still found all the .exe's still in the file system, so I still had to do some deleting. Until I get situated with flashing a ROM, this is probably still the best way to go, but I feel the dark side pullin me in slowly but surely. Too bad MS (and hardware manufacturers in kind) have yet to figure out that the way to sell something is not to stick a bunch of annoying trial crap in your face, but to actually offer some compelling features. It irks me that I have to spend hours cleaning up the mess that they made. Don't we get enough junk mail/ spam/ TV Ads/ web popups, etc, etc, etc?
Trial ware is easy money for most hardware manufacturers. They get paid for loading that crap on your device and try to spin in to their users like they are trying to help them.
prubin said:
Actually, all the bloatware programs are in the menu you accessed. But, you apparently overlooked the sub-menus.
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I do not see any sub-menus on the AT&T ROM. I deleted those in Java, thanks. But thy re still in the menus, now with broken links.
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Some people have gotten around this by doing a hard reset, then before the AT&T customization starts, do a soft reset.
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Did that. I lost MS-Office which is an important program to me.
Okay, a different angle, is there a way I can remove the icons in the menus to clean up the way the menus look nd keep scrolling to a minimum. Then I could just leave the programs.
Any ideas. I have SK Tools to edit the resistry.
I did the soft reset after hard reset trick, and I did not loose Mobile Office. Try again.
removal instructions...
if you did a soft reset before the customazition starts..i recommend that you do another hard reset and don't stop the regular projess. the customazitions has important files that we need as well...so just do a hard reset and follow the instruction belove.. I got the solution for you to stop showing the broken links.
I am on att as well..so on my tilt. here is what i did..
first to gain at least 10mb I deleted the files under documents/myringtones..and the trial games are under java ..programs/tools/java and delete them on options..
here is the big trick you are asking..if you wanna delete them from the programs menu..you don't need the registry edit programs..
just go to windows/start menu/programs//// and delete any program you don't want to show on programs folder...it will look much cleaners...after all the processes i gained 15mb of storage memory..
good luck
When I tried to delete unwanted bloatware, I was unable to. I even check properties using Total Commander and tried unsetting the read-only attribute, no go. How do you guys do this?
to delete unwanted icons from the program menu go to
/windows/start menu/programs
then just delete whichever icons are associated with the demo games you deleted.
Can somebody explain why would you suggest manually deleting the files and applications as opposed to doing the "reset" method after doing a hard reset?
Am I missing something by doing the "reset" method?
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My storage memory seems to steadily but significantly grow and grow. It is now at 98% full and I can't find any space. Normally after a hard reset and installing all of my data and apps this figure is in the 80% range. I do keep my temporary internet files cleaned out by removing everything from Windows\Profiles\guest\Temporary Internet Files which can generally free up a very large amount of space, say 10+ MB or so. The obvious additional pieces of information are:
-no new large files added
-quite a few SMSs - but not a thousand, maybe 50-200 total
-no new programs installed
-the mystery bloat seems to be in the Windows directory which is now 138MB (seems odd) as reported by Resco Explorer
I have used find large files feature and have thoroughly browsed my Windows directory and just can not find the large file(s) causing this. Could this be some kind of memory leak? This is the second time this has happened and the last time I resorted to a hard reset which drastically improved the problem (got rid of it and got me back down to the 80% level again which it seemed to stay at for quite some time). I really do not want to get in this mandatory endless hard reseting loop.
BTW: AT&T device and ROM, bloatware removed by reset during bloatware installation at start up. Any advice greatly appreciated.
you sure your removing the PIE cache by opening PIE and selecting to clear history and delete files by going to tools/options in PIE? thats the most common place you get internal memory getting eaten up. ive had 40mb go through PIe because i forgot to delete the files through the PIE settings
Thanks. Emptying that directory does the same thing. Just to be sure I did that anyway. No change. At 96% now. Ugh.
Give us a list of...
Device, is it a stock AT&T Tilt or one of the beta's we are hearing about?
Firmware, items shown on startup from soft reset!
Installed Apps/Cabs,
cause you could have something storing log files that you don't know about!
then we can have a reference of where to go!
OK here goes...
R 1.27.12.11 (std AT&T)
G 22.45.88.07H
D 1.57.00.00
Aps (in addition to std. ROM):
Opera
G Maps
Resco Expl+Today
TT6
iGuidance4
PC MAME
Calc98
Kaiser Notification (LED control)
TCPMP
World Card Mobile
Weather to Go (Tonaya)
MS Voice Com.
MS Live Search
Flash Video Bundle
Thanks again!
Look for a file named Today in the Windows directory. I noticed this on my Tilt ROM and it was steadily growing. It's safe to delete.
Also check your email, this can grow rapidly if you get attachments.
?Glitch
Does google maps save it's map cache to the storage card? I thought it didn't. If not, that would likely cause your memory to drop if you use google maps a lot.
Thanks so much guys.
@URPREY: The only file like that is Today_Order_23Jul07.cab and it is a whopping 3kB
@?Glitch: I only use SMS not MMS not e-mail, I think these guys are pretty darn small.
@snoogisnguy: I thought google maps downloaded everything it needed sort of in real time and cleaned stuff up in real time as well. Can you point me to a directory to examine for large files?
Bribe
OK hate to resort to a "bribe", but this problem is killing me. $25 to the person who can solve it. I'd be happy to simply make another donation to the forum as well.
Google maps keeps almost everything it downloads, if you use that a lot that would be my first guess.
check My device/application data/GoogleMaps and the file cashe-GLM.
Mine's about 2M and i rarely use it.
Try memmaid from Dinarsoft. It can evaluate your storage usage, including the google cache and tell you what is taking up the space. It's got a free 15 day trial.
http://www.dinarsoft.com/memmaid/
hard reset and start again... might be an issue that you may never find
on another note, why dont you sync up to windows and check the file/folder size of each one you have... theres not that many and so it should only take a few minutes
atleast that way you can narrow it down to what area of your phone is taking up so much memory... and then narrow it down to a file hopefully
just an idea
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Thanks so much guys.
@URPREY: The only file like that is Today_Order_23Jul07.cab and it is a whopping 3kB
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Which file explorer did you use to check? The file that was on mine was a hidden file and had no extension so I only saw it with Total Commander. It grew very quickly and I had to delete it several time. I believe it was a cache file for the today screen. I use an RSS today plugin and I think that's what caused it. I have no issues after changing to a cooked ROM.
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Try memmaid from Dinarsoft. It can evaluate your storage usage, including the google cache and tell you what is taking up the space. It's got a free 15 day trial.
http://www.dinarsoft.com/memmaid/
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Thanks guys! All of the other suggestions, although great ideas, turned out to not be the culprit. The one above, with some more detective work was the winner. Memmaid located a folder called ~Recycled that was 15+ MB. It is a bug (or maybe even a "feature") in Resco Explorer that it does not show this directory ewven when you check show everything such as hidden, system, in ROM, etc. This directory held some files that were cached images from web browsing as well as other unidentifiable files. Memmaid also nicely deleted the entire directory. All was well until I got a bit too aggressive and used Memmaid to move all of the application caches to the memory card. This made my system very unstable, slow and almost unuseable. Luckily I could get back in Memmaid and undo those changes. Anyway a bit of a long struggle but finally this very annoying and crippling problem is solved. I really hope this thread helps out others with a similar problem.
As a follow up question does anyone know how to prevent such bloat in this directory in the first place? Seems like a very crippling feature of WM wihtout access to this directory.
dunneldeen: Was your suggestion enough of a solution that you want the "bribe" money? Thanks again either way!
You simply have to remove "recycle bin" feature from Resco Explorer settings, so your files will be deleted as soon as you do it and they will doesn't go to the recycle bin that in theory you have to empty manually, like your do with the one on your PC.
I have searched w/o results.
When deleting a file on my storage sd card, I simply hold the styles down on it and select "delete". Is it that simple or is there another place it is stored that I need to go remove? The reason I ask is that being a new tilt owner, I am trying out different program/files to see which ones I want to keep. So I am adding and deleting files. I do understand that if it is a file that I am wanting to delete, I need to go to add & remove programs etc. Just looking for a way to COMPLETLY remove a file or program from my tilt once I decide to remove it w/o doing a hard reset.
Also seems like most of the time I check task manager on the top right corner, I noticed that the act syn is running, how do I keep this from running in the background. I keep stopping it but it seems to running when I check it later. I do have kaisertweak installed.
thanks
Scott
swatcop1 said:
I have searched w/o results.
When deleting a file on my storage sd card, I simply hold the styles down on it and select "delete". Is it that simple or is there another place it is stored that I need to go remove? The reason I ask is that being a new tilt owner, I am trying out different program/files to see which ones I want to keep. So I am adding and deleting files. I do understand that if it is a file that I am wanting to delete, I need to go to add & remove programs etc. Just looking for a way to COMPLETLY remove a file or program from my tilt once I decide to remove it w/o doing a hard reset.
Also seems like most of the time I check task manager on the top right corner, I noticed that the act syn is running, how do I keep this from running in the background. I keep stopping it but it seems to running when I check it later. I do have kaisertweak installed.
thanks
Scott
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deleting e file and removing a program are two different things. wich one u are asking about?
deleting a file!
Just want to make sure of how to completely delete a file?
Windows Mobile is not like the desktop versions of Windows when it comes to deleting. The file is not sent to any sort of recycle bin. Once you delete it in the way you described, it is gone.
Thank you for your response
Scott
Resco explorer adds a "recycle bin" feature when u remove items using the program if you want one
Running TyTNII and HTC 6.1 ROM w/HardSPL 3.56 to get rid of the hangs. Now I'm looking to 'tune' the platform as I begin installing more and more software.
I own a copy of Pocket Mechanic, but I'm reluctant to delete certain files, folders and registry keys when using the cleanup utilities without knowing for sure whether or not they're needed. In times past when using the PM registry cleaner, I've notced that deleting certain keys has caused the unit to actually slow down, rather than get better.
Are there any recommendations as to what's safe to delete, or what must remain behind?
For instance:
Fonts folder?
OneNote folder?
Recycle Bin folder?
I just don't want to get myself into hot water, here.
Thanks!
good question
ive not had my tilt for very long and as with any new toy i installed anything and everything i could.
then i found my tilt running like a pig.
so yes, if anyone out there knows of a good registry cleaner, please share
new_ppc_user said:
ive not had my tilt for very long and as with any new toy i installed anything and everything i could.
then i found my tilt running like a pig.
so yes, if anyone out there knows of a good registry cleaner, please share
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There are a number of utilities to help clean your system out there. I use Pocket Mechanic by Wizcode (Anton Tomov), but there are other good choices out there.
The question I have, is that in times past when I deleted certain registry keys (be they empty or otherwise), the machine actually slowed down and became less stable.
So that's the nature of my question. I know that Pocket Mechanic will find duplicate, empty and unused files and (allegedly) unused registry keys. But my experience is that it's not always quite as simple as "point and click". I'm listing this question under the heading of "What I don't know can hurt me very much."
I use MemMaid and have had no problems with it but I always use Sprite Backup first. I like to maintain a series of at least the previous three backups and just before some major system changes like installing or cleaning is a good time to make one.
I've looked around here and haven't seen anything about doing this, so I'm assuming it is not possible but...
Is there any way to remove the various pieces of AT&T bloatware on the Tilt without having to hard-reset the device? I've already done a lot of program loads & configuration and would hate to be forced to redo all of it if I can avoid it.
I got my fingers crossed for this as well. Reinstalling the apps is such a pita.
I used this for removing plugins. it works well but I'm not to sure if it removes the files associated with the plug in.
You could dump the ROM and remove anything you don't want or need, it's called COOKING. You could look into on of Not A Treo Fans' cooked AT&T based ROMS in the developers forum and then reload your personal apps. There are ways to automatically load custom apps automatically after you do ROM upgrade, all you have to do is look and read.
Besides half the fun of these devices is tinkering with them.
I have read the article about removing bloatware but whenever I do the soft reset, the phone boots up and I get this message "The device is clearing the storage, please wait" The process seems to be looping and when i go through the cut and paste routine, it is still trying to launch the ATT customization. Any ideas how to solve this problem?
Solution
The hard reset before the ATT customization prompt worked.
I had this problem ,one time, I tryed different things like 20 times, even reflashing the rom. But the answer is simple just do the hard reset, go through all the whatevers. then go to start>settings>system>clear storage>type in 1234 and press yes and that should do it.
bwnotredame06 said:
I had this problem ,one time, I tryed different things like 20 times, even reflashing the rom. But the answer is simple just do the hard reset, go through all the whatevers. then go to start>settings>system>clear storage>type in 1234 and press yes and that should do it.
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I did this and it was the equivalent of doing another hard reset where the "customization" (bloat installation) follows the phone becoming usable. Did I miss something?
When I flash the ATT OEM on my Tilt, I just just soft-reset my phone when it does the countdown. When it reboots, I have a basic Windows 6.1 install.
that is the step I missed, doing the soft reset during the countdown to customization.
How effective is bloatware removal to the performance of the phone?
ok if anyone can answer this would be great been searching but alot of it is conflicting.
i did the bloatware removeal got that done. i used total commander to copy the proxy folder with the 2 shortcuts to my sd card then after the bloat ware i used explorer to copy them to the startmenu/programs. when i click on programs from start menu there is the folder proxy with the 2 short cuts. NOW my question is
1. i did remove bloatware and now what do i have to do so the phone will function perfect as it would with the bloatware. is there any tweaks i have to add that is not there from removing bloatware. I DID ENABLE proxy so IE is working so is when i type " device.home" to get the mediaNET site. i have all the cabs from the bloatware and what are the ones i need to install
thanks all
also if i stay with bloat ware can i remove under add/remove
customization tools
custimize
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that is the step I missed, doing the soft reset during the countdown to customization.
How effective is bloatware removal to the performance of the phone?
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not much i did it just removes the bloatware i went from having 93.00(with bloatware) storage free and 54 program free (removed only OZIM, Pacman, xmradio.
to 109 storage(after bloatware) and 56 program
not much differ.
im just instlling it now with bloatware using total commander to fix the shortcuts removed them ext. works fine