Remove bloatware without hard reset? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

I've looked around here and haven't seen anything about doing this, so I'm assuming it is not possible but...
Is there any way to remove the various pieces of AT&T bloatware on the Tilt without having to hard-reset the device? I've already done a lot of program loads & configuration and would hate to be forced to redo all of it if I can avoid it.

I got my fingers crossed for this as well. Reinstalling the apps is such a pita.
I used this for removing plugins. it works well but I'm not to sure if it removes the files associated with the plug in.

You could dump the ROM and remove anything you don't want or need, it's called COOKING. You could look into on of Not A Treo Fans' cooked AT&T based ROMS in the developers forum and then reload your personal apps. There are ways to automatically load custom apps automatically after you do ROM upgrade, all you have to do is look and read.
Besides half the fun of these devices is tinkering with them.

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OS Rom cooking question

Hi all,
I have a simple question (But with a hard answer).
How easy would it be to strip certain applications from an OS ROM?? I'm thinking about all the useless applications that get installed eg MIDi, SIM manager, and a few others.. in an attempt to free up memory for other applications..
It's a real pain when the OS comes with File explorer, Internet Explorer and Media player for example, when many people install alternative software. I guess stripping these out would be difficult but maybe other applications would be easier to remove????
Is it a straighforward exercise or hideously difficult???
All the best
Ody
afaik it's not so difficult to remove files and rebuilt the rom, but I think there might be several registry changes to perform -- for example, if you remove WMP -- and those changes can be harder to locate.

Bloatware Program / game Demo Removal

Good day all. I have spent three days reading this forum, great stuff. I bought the SK Tooks program and have deleted the PTT button per another thread. I have also set up the internet sharing like my 8525 per another post, many thanks for all the above.
One I did not find. I want to delete unneeded programs and games. I am on the AT&T ROM. When I go to Settings|Programs|remove Programs, only a few are shown. I would like to delete the following:
Programs|
Media Net Home
AT&T Mall
AT&T Music
Cellular Video
Push To Talk
Programs|Games & Apps
Get TelNav
MobilTV
Plus a few others probably. Am I out of luck?
From what I understand those things are on the ROM and can't be removed unless you flash the ROM with something else.
Actually, all the bloatware programs are in the menu you accessed. But, you apparently overlooked the sub-menus. Go back to the Window directory and with a little searching, you will find them and be able to delete.
Also, for the sample games, open the Java folder and there is an option under menu to remove all of the files.
Some people have gotten around this by doing a hard reset, then before the AT&T customization starts, do a soft reset. I used this method, however, I still found all the .exe's still in the file system, so I still had to do some deleting. Until I get situated with flashing a ROM, this is probably still the best way to go, but I feel the dark side pullin me in slowly but surely. Too bad MS (and hardware manufacturers in kind) have yet to figure out that the way to sell something is not to stick a bunch of annoying trial crap in your face, but to actually offer some compelling features. It irks me that I have to spend hours cleaning up the mess that they made. Don't we get enough junk mail/ spam/ TV Ads/ web popups, etc, etc, etc?
Trial ware is easy money for most hardware manufacturers. They get paid for loading that crap on your device and try to spin in to their users like they are trying to help them.
prubin said:
Actually, all the bloatware programs are in the menu you accessed. But, you apparently overlooked the sub-menus.
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I do not see any sub-menus on the AT&T ROM. I deleted those in Java, thanks. But thy re still in the menus, now with broken links.
jgermuga said:
Some people have gotten around this by doing a hard reset, then before the AT&T customization starts, do a soft reset.
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Did that. I lost MS-Office which is an important program to me.
Okay, a different angle, is there a way I can remove the icons in the menus to clean up the way the menus look nd keep scrolling to a minimum. Then I could just leave the programs.
Any ideas. I have SK Tools to edit the resistry.
I did the soft reset after hard reset trick, and I did not loose Mobile Office. Try again.
removal instructions...
if you did a soft reset before the customazition starts..i recommend that you do another hard reset and don't stop the regular projess. the customazitions has important files that we need as well...so just do a hard reset and follow the instruction belove.. I got the solution for you to stop showing the broken links.
I am on att as well..so on my tilt. here is what i did..
first to gain at least 10mb I deleted the files under documents/myringtones..and the trial games are under java ..programs/tools/java and delete them on options..
here is the big trick you are asking..if you wanna delete them from the programs menu..you don't need the registry edit programs..
just go to windows/start menu/programs//// and delete any program you don't want to show on programs folder...it will look much cleaners...after all the processes i gained 15mb of storage memory..
good luck
When I tried to delete unwanted bloatware, I was unable to. I even check properties using Total Commander and tried unsetting the read-only attribute, no go. How do you guys do this?
to delete unwanted icons from the program menu go to
/windows/start menu/programs
then just delete whichever icons are associated with the demo games you deleted.
Can somebody explain why would you suggest manually deleting the files and applications as opposed to doing the "reset" method after doing a hard reset?
Am I missing something by doing the "reset" method?

Bloatware Defined

I just got my Tilt and have been carefully searching and planning my hacs. I'm actually thinking I may just go with some of the HTC hacks versus a new rom but still haven't decided. My question is whether someone could define what bloatware programs are loaded in after a hard reset and the "Customizing device" notification comes up and begins unloading ATTs cabs. The only other post I found refering to them says try the phone without them and see if it's ok, what are they? Basically I'm not worried about their music downloads, etc. I just don't want to download something they install specifically to help with the edge of Hisgh speed services. Thanks.
gnoju said:
I just got my Tilt and have been carefully searching and planning my hacs. I'm actually thinking I may just go with some of the HTC hacks versus a new rom but still haven't decided. My question is whether someone could define what bloatware programs are loaded in after a hard reset and the "Customizing device" notification comes up and begins unloading ATTs cabs. The only other post I found refering to them says try the phone without them and see if it's ok, what are they? Basically I'm not worried about their music downloads, etc. I just don't want to download something they install specifically to help with the edge of Hisgh speed services. Thanks.
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None of the shareware games/apps get installed as well as default ATT apps/settings. You can always configure the internet and other settings using one of the many cab files floating around here.
As far as core functionality, it's all there if you do the bloatware-removal trick, so you don't have to worry about any extra programs for the high speed connection etc. I did it with mine, after trying the HTC ROM on my Tilt, and to be honest I like the debloated Tilt rom better than the HTC rom. But yeah, the bloatware is most of the demo games in the Games folder, the pay-per-month GPS option (which is apparently decent, but there are free and other alternatives out there that work fine) and just all of the AT&T goofiness. I forget what else was involved with the bloatware, cause it only lasted an hour or so on mine before I was reflashing.
Sounds great, thanks.
I posted all of the programs you get with the standard AT&T ROM before and after bypassing the startup customizations. It is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335335&page=4
I'll see about adding this to the WIKI too.
sherpa said:
None of the shareware games/apps get installed as well as default ATT apps/settings. You can always configure the internet and other settings using one of the many cab files floating around here.
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Actually the at&t Tilt Roms have at&t MediaNet & ISP APN connection profiles built in even without the "Customization" program running.
kyphur said:
Actually the at&t Tilt Roms have at&t MediaNet & ISP APN connection profiles built in even without the "Customization" program running.
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My unlocked TyTN II had those setup once the AT&T SIM card was placed in it.

Sytem Cleanup: What Can I Delete?

Running TyTNII and HTC 6.1 ROM w/HardSPL 3.56 to get rid of the hangs. Now I'm looking to 'tune' the platform as I begin installing more and more software.
I own a copy of Pocket Mechanic, but I'm reluctant to delete certain files, folders and registry keys when using the cleanup utilities without knowing for sure whether or not they're needed. In times past when using the PM registry cleaner, I've notced that deleting certain keys has caused the unit to actually slow down, rather than get better.
Are there any recommendations as to what's safe to delete, or what must remain behind?
For instance:
Fonts folder?
OneNote folder?
Recycle Bin folder?
I just don't want to get myself into hot water, here.
Thanks!
good question
ive not had my tilt for very long and as with any new toy i installed anything and everything i could.
then i found my tilt running like a pig.
so yes, if anyone out there knows of a good registry cleaner, please share
new_ppc_user said:
ive not had my tilt for very long and as with any new toy i installed anything and everything i could.
then i found my tilt running like a pig.
so yes, if anyone out there knows of a good registry cleaner, please share
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There are a number of utilities to help clean your system out there. I use Pocket Mechanic by Wizcode (Anton Tomov), but there are other good choices out there.
The question I have, is that in times past when I deleted certain registry keys (be they empty or otherwise), the machine actually slowed down and became less stable.
So that's the nature of my question. I know that Pocket Mechanic will find duplicate, empty and unused files and (allegedly) unused registry keys. But my experience is that it's not always quite as simple as "point and click". I'm listing this question under the heading of "What I don't know can hurt me very much."
I use MemMaid and have had no problems with it but I always use Sprite Backup first. I like to maintain a series of at least the previous three backups and just before some major system changes like installing or cleaning is a good time to make one.

App Idea/ Possibility Refried ROMs

An app i'd REALLY like to see, i think all if its possible...
flash a rom cooked or uncooked, then install all your apps, customize everything, set your settings and themes, get it working peak and tailored... then Have an app that would back up the rom, your apps, your settings everything and boil it down to a new ROM.
advantages:
not having to reinstall all your commercial apps with serials and customizations.
not having to refind hotfixes,themes ect or finding cooked rom with them.
once reflashed back to the phone all your personal customizations would be set in ROM and even after even a hard reset its all there.
Anyone working on such an app? Anything like this? I've searched, no luck.
Can we discuss the feasibility of such an app?
I thought there was a program in the kitchen that let you do just that. "Dump" your ROM, then make it a flashable .nbh file.
Am I mistaken? I thought I did this once before with my kiaser.
The program reads from the phone, and rips Part00, Part01, Part02, .. and then you have to extract those to create the .nbh file
EDIT: EDIT: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HowtoDumpRom For the Hermes, I am sure it is very similar, if not the same
That does dump the ROM yes. but only the rom, none of the after modifications, none of the settings, none of the installed apps. the thing is it usually takes me near a week to get everything back on my phone and setting readjusted in event of a hard reset. I travel and should i have to hard reset on the road PI8, my GPS everything is gone until i get a good several days to dock at home an reinstall everything. i could cook my own personal rom i suppose but the learning curve seems steep as far as cooking. Thats why i think something that dumped your current rom, but then went a step further and integrated your current setup, apps, settings, skins, ect. to turn out a customized "Recooked" rom. It doesn't seem to me to be a technological leap but coding such a this is beyond me. Since it came from the phone it would go back to it seems to me it would be easier than regular cooking in that you wouldn't have to allow for diverse setup situations.
Don't you use UC? it comes in almost all custom ROM's
Or there's a myriad of backup apps available that basically do that, try searching some time.
A WHOLE week to set up your device

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