I have been through several very long threads on this and several people have asked but no one ever answers. I am a big fan of the button mapping programs and want to be able to call up the HTC app which shows the currently running programs. I am not even sure what to call it, as I have seen it as X Button, and also as Task Manager. However, I am not looking for the settings menu Task Manager utility which is the full fledged program allowing some setting changes and adding programs to the excluded list, etc. Rather I am looking for the Pop Up menu that comes up when you tap and hold the close button. I have search my device for every .EXE and tried them all, yet I still can not figure out how to call this program directly. Is this not possible? Is it similar to a today plug in that requires you to be on the Tday screen to run it? Any help would be appreciated.
I believe Spb Pocket Plus can do this. It has a button mapper, but you can also set "OK" (Butto 4) to "[Close]" (from the default "<Ok/Close>") and that should work.
But thats way on the back of the phone when using the slide out keyboard.
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But thats way on the back of the phone when using the slide out keyboard.
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Huh? Button 4 is the OK button on the front of the phone.
hesh said:
Huh? Button 4 is the OK button on the front of the phone.
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Sorry I thought you were referring to the OK button below the jog dial. My bad.
It's not, really. There are three "OK" buttons. One on the faceplate, one on the left-hand side, and one on the slide out keyboard. I've use the new version of Pocket Plus to map the one on the face plate to "OK" with a press and "Close" on a long press. The button hesh is referring to is the one on the face plate (under the "End" button).
Of course, this is the TyTN II layout, so the Tilt may be different. Key point - there is a way to do what you want with Pocket Plus - map a button (any one you like) to "[Close Button Context Menu]" which is a function that Pocket Plus will add for you (it won't exist without it installed).
still not helping...
i have also read about 150 pages worth of posts to no avail on this topic and would greatly appreciate a solution. i think that some of you are missing the question entirely though so im going to give a crack at presenting the question a little bit clearer.
What we are trying to do here is map a hardware button to whatever process it is that brings up the "HTC X-Button" menu. The specific menu we want is the drop down that appears when the upper right corner is tapped from the today screen. the thread i got the app from originally i cant seem to find for some reason, but heres a link to one i did find link. Heres a screen shot.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
we do not want to know if there is another task switching application with these features such as the spb product or any others.
thanks in advance for any responses and hope this clears things up a bit.
dislexicmofo has it right. I was looking to call the program "HTC X-Button" from a button instead of a stylis tap. The "HTC X-Button" does not show up as an application, and I can not figure out how to call it directly by another means. I am guessing it may depend on the today screen being in the foreground, however, I would like it to come up without any regard to the foreground application.
FWIW, I finally gave up and installed InClose, as it shows up as a program under the Applications List.
As for SPB, I like their stuff, just not enough to pay for it and I have had many compability problems in the past (although that was several iterations ago),.
So even if SPB did provide this feature, I was looking for a freeware variation.
I tried to ask this same question in the "Latest Cabs for Kaisers" thread stickied at the top:
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i have installed HTC Task manager v2.00 (build 30740) from dutty's first post. (i can't seem to get the other one to install - which is fine). anyway, this task manager has a "quick menu" in the upper right hand corner of your today screen that you can click with your stylus and that lists all your running applications nicely. i would like to create a short-cut to this quick menu, but i'm not sure how to do it because it is just a part of the task manager program and not a program itself. Does anyone have any ideas? The reason I like this quick menu better than the list you get when you click on the task manager icon is because the list does not go away after you make a single selection. in other words, you can close out several programs from the list instead of having to bring the list back up after you close each application. any ideas?
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I don't understand how people can live without this...
It's awful not having a hotkey to the tasklist...
Can this simple thing not be done ?
EDIT: AE Button plus has sorted things out for me
I remember a softkey app back in the wizard days. This closed the program by holding the right softkey down. Forgot what it was called.
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I remember a softkey app back in the wizard days. This closed the program by holding the right softkey down. Forgot what it was called.
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Smartskey. I use it almost purely for that reason alone. Press and hold the right softkey and it closes the current app like tapping the X. Or press and hold the left softkey and it opens the Start Menu (which really isn't needed on the Kaiser since there is a Start menu button already, but then you could remap that if you wanted).
you're not going to be able to do that. AS someone else said it is depended upong the today screen being in the foreground. The intent of the original app wasn't to be a task switcher, but just a simple task manager to be able to close app from the tapping the X button. That was the original design of ver1. Ver2 brought the additional buttons and the overall look, but it's still not a task switcher and it's hooked into the OS to work only when the today is present.
I know you don't want to hear this but SPB PP4 is the app that will do what you want, and it was designed to do what you want from it's creation. Not only can you pull down the task list in any app (not just today screen) but you can also map the PPT button to their alt+tab switcher, which works just like windows alt+tab combo.
I like the look of the HTC one and the size of the buttons within it, by I find myself using PPC4 more and more...
ya, me neither - i found "VBar" which i mapped to a hardware button and which initializes the X button pulldown, wherein you can switch tasks, close apps, or close the vBar itself (which has a kinda cheesy image-but not bad for free!) haven't figured out how to program it yet? . . . but works right out of the box.
ciao
Subliminal Aura said:
I don't understand how people can live without this...
It's awful not having a hotkey to the tasklist...
Can this simple thing not be done ?
EDIT: AE Button plus has sorted things out for me
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you're not going to be able to do that. AS someone else said it is depended upong the today screen being in the foreground. The intent of the original app wasn't to be a task switcher, but just a simple task manager to be able to close app from the tapping the X button. That was the original design of ver1. Ver2 brought the additional buttons and the overall look, but it's still not a task switcher and it's hooked into the OS to work only when the today is present.
I know you don't want to hear this but SPB PP4 is the app that will do what you want, and it was designed to do what you want from it's creation. Not only can you pull down the task list in any app (not just today screen) but you can also map the PPT button to their alt+tab switcher, which works just like windows alt+tab combo.
I like the look of the HTC one and the size of the buttons within it, by I find myself using PPC4 more and more...
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FWIW, I wound up using AEB+, which, strictly speaking is not necessasy for my original question, but it allows you to assign an app close vs an app hide to the press and hold of the OK key. So essentially is does the same thing as the Softskey and more.
I then installed InClose Mobile. You CAN map this to the hardware button and it will open regardless of whether you are on the today screen or not. If you try it, be sure to turn off the HTC button as it will cause a conflict.
VJOkButt allows you to simulate a click on the screen.
I have used it in conjunction with pBar (a better replacement for HTC Task manager) or you can just assign a shortcut to pBar to a hardware button. This was the easiest way for me.
Is there a way to map the front-face "OK" button (button 4, I believe) to close the opened application without using some kind of extra button mapper?
Using Contacts to make a phone call and then having to close the contacts program afterwards without simply pushing a button is really annoying. Remapping the OK button to close applications entirely would be nice.
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My apologies if I've missed an answer to what seems like a fairly straightforward question. I searched around and found the question asked a few times over the past few years, but unfortunately no satisfactory solution. Perhaps this has now changed?
Does anybody know of a shortcut to COMPLETELY shut down / power off the Kaiser? i.e. the equivalent of pressing and holding the power key, then selecting "YES" at the "Power will be turned off and you may lose data if you have not saved them. Do you want to continue?" warning (sorry for overemphasising this but in previous threads people have offered answers which referred to the screen off / semi-power off / suspend state - not what I'm after in this instance).
psShutXP is a useful program but the "Shut Down" option does not completely shutdown my Kaiser - i.e. it wakes immediately on sliding the keyboard or pressing the power key.
I have seen suggestions that \WINDOWS\PowerOffWarning.exe might be the solution - I cannot get this to run from Total Commander or File Explorer, nor can I get it to run from a shortcut. Is it protected in some way as a system file?
If possible I'd like to achieve this without installing any software, or at least just installing something with a very small footprint - i.e. not iLauncher, Wisbar etc (which are fine pieces of software but I like to keep my machine as fast and lean as possible). I'd be quite happy with simply being able to raise the Power Off Warning mentioned in the first paragraph with a shortcut, rather than having to having to hold the power key down. As part of my job I need to frequently switch my device completely off. I am running WM6.1.
Many thanks and again, my apologies if I've missed an obvious answer to this. My portion of humble pie is on the table in front of me, ready to be eaten...
http://tiltsite.com/2008/04/tiltsite-software-spotlight-psshutxp/
It's an awesome app and takes up almost no space.
Thanks for the reply, but as mentioned in my first post psShutXP does not completely shut down / power off my device - it simply puts it into the low power sleep / suspend mode (where it can still receive calls, texts etc. and will wake immediately if you slide the keyboard).
I am looking for a shortcut to completely turn off my device, just like when you hold down the power key for a few seconds and hit yes when the warning comes up.
Any other suggestions?
Many thanks.
JC6 - I've been in the position for a while - and I've still come up with nothing.
I agree psShutXP is a useful application, but the power off function doesn't do what it's supposed to.
raiisak was going to work on one a while back, but I'm not sure if he ever got to it.
Yeah, I figured that if there was an answer to this one it would be easy enough to find on a search - it seems like the kind of thing quite a few people would want so I guess it would have been done by now if it was easy to do.
I'm not a programmer, but surely when you press and hold the power button it is executing some sort of shutdown function which can somehow be accessed through alternate means? \WINDOWS\PowerOffWarning.exe would seem like a likely candidate for this (and has been mentioned on a few threads) but it won't run when you try to access it directly (on my Kaiser / WM6.1)
I tried using VJKeyPress (great program) with a shortcut to the power key but it only seems to emulate a single short press. I couldn't see a numeric key code for a long press of the power key.
If anybody comes up with anything it would be very much appreciated...
Hi, has anyone come up with a solution for this. I have been searching the net for a while now to achieve this and have tried numerous software programmes, but have found none that achieve a complete shutdown of the device.
Ok had a little play with this, i can get the power off dialogue to appear from a shortcut using any one of the following commands and parameters in a .lnk file:
31#"\Windows\PowerOffWarning.exe", "PowerOff"
31#"\Windows\PowerOffWarning.exe" \ExitWindowsEX (EWX_POWEROFF, 0)
31#"\Windows\PowerOffWarning.exe" \ExitWindowsEX (EWX_SHUTDOWN, NULL)
31#"\Windows\PowerOffWarning.exe" \ExitWindowsEX
Not sure if any of this helps you guys out but i've attached an example, maybe some else will know a way to be able to bypass the yes/no prompt.....
Well this seems to have completely solved the problem, thank you so much! I couldn't be completely sure, but I spent a LONG time searching around for a solution to this issue, and I believe this may be the first time it's been successfully implemented (which is surprising given how it would seem like a function quite a lot of people would want).
Personally I'm not too bothered about the yes/no warning - it gives me chance to abort the process if I select it by accident.
Thanks a lot _DrG_, nice job!
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Ok had a little play with this, i can get the power off dialogue to appear from a shortcut using any one of the following commands and parameters in a .lnk file:
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Not sure if any of this helps you guys out but i've attached an example, maybe some else will know a way to be able to bypass the yes/no prompt.....
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Nice job!! I know the OP said "No extra software" but just though I'd throw in that I bet MortScript could be wrapped around this link and hit the Yes for the user.
Now I'm trying to think of how I'd use this...
how you sposed to put this shortcut on today screen?
Personally I access mine from WM5NewMenu (I love this program) - you could also put it in the start menu (copy the shortcut to \WINDOWS\START MENU\PROGRAMS and it will then show up as as an option for one of your items in the Start Menu).
If you want it to appear on the today screen then any program which allows you to launch shortcuts from a today plugin (e.g. iLauncher etc. - you may well already have something like this) will do this for you. It's "just" a shortcut (which is the best thing about it - i.e. no need to install anything extra which clogs up your system).
Cheers.
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Nice job!! I know the OP said "No extra software" but just though I'd throw in that I bet MortScript could be wrapped around this link and hit the Yes for the user.
Now I'm trying to think of how I'd use this...
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http://www.vijay555.com/?Releases:VJKeyPress
Cool. Glad i could help out here
Oh for those with mortscript try this, it'll bypass the prompt (well click the yes of the prompt) for you, so nice and automated!:
Code:
Run("\Windows\PowerOffWarning.exe", "PowerOff")
Sleep(750)
MouseClick(80,185)
you may need to tweak the sleep parameter, 750 does it for me....
also my mortscript .mscr example is attached in the zip for reference....
Cheers,
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Nice job!! I know the OP said "No extra software" but just though I'd throw in that I bet MortScript could be wrapped around this link and hit the Yes for the user.
Now I'm trying to think of how I'd use this...
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please add a red shutdown icon
Thank you very much _DrG_, I was also unsuccessfully searching for this. As I don't know how, could somebody please extract the red shutdown icon from the attached app (WM5 suspend only), add it to _DrG_'s shortcut and post it? Thanks in advance.
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Thank you very much _DrG_, I was also unsuccessfully searching for this. As I don't know how, could somebody please extract the red shutdown icon from the attached app (WM5 suspend only), add it to _DrG_'s shortcut and post it? Thanks in advance.
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coz im a nice guy, heres how you do it, well the "easy way" (as apposed to assigning the icon to the PowerOffWarning.exe then having to resign it to reflect the icon... )
Just keep the PowerOff.exe installed on your device, wherever it doesn't matter, ill assume for now is in \Windows\ on your device.....
basically the .lnk would have to look like this to use the icon your after:
Code:
31#"\Windows\PowerOffWarning.exe", "PowerOff"?\Windows\PowerOff.exe, -101
OR if you have the PowerOff.exe somewhere else on your device, just replace ?\Windows \PowerOff.exe with your location
Here's the updated .lnk with the icon parameter pointing to the PowerOff.exe if its in \Windows\....
You may require a reboot to reflect the change on your device....
If all goes to plan you should be left with this beauty:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Cheers,
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If all goes to plan you should be left with this beauty:
Cheers,
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Thank you very much for your swift help.
Cab with the link and a nice icon attached here.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=982
It installs the shortcut to your program menu.
Surur
WOW! _DrG_is the man! I was looking for a long time too for someone who figured this out. Thanks a million! Just one request to anyone out there to make this even better. Can someone please figure out how to map this shortcut to the "shutdown button" on psShutxp. THAT WOULD THEN BE AN AMAZING APP! Please can someone figure out how to do that. Thank you!
surur said:
Cab with the link and a nice icon attached here.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=982
It installs the shortcut to your program menu.
Surur
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Great, thx
As soon as I just started to read DrG's solution on previous page I decided to make a cab, but you have already done it. thx
(and BTW @OP: is your power off button on your kaiser broken or you just wanted it just because psshut didnt work correctly?
Personally I'd still use the physical power off button on my kaiser, but certainly it is great idea for other devices that may not have such option, ie my old iPAQ6515)
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@surur
I see you used hardcoded path to "\Windows\Start Menu" rather than %CE11% or %CE17%
You are aware it makes your cab for WWE only, right?
Could someone please please please integrate _DrG_'s amazing find into psShutXP so that the "shutdown" button actually shuts down the phone. Im sure a lot of people would really like this.
A new application has been released.
GScroll - you can scroll/navigate using the accelerometer and/or capacitive touch pad zones.
demo (limited to 5 minutes) avaiable at http://www.mobilesrc.com/GScroll.aspx
going to try it!
it's good to have a try... someone should re-write a free version
That's a quick way to have the thread shutdown .. that sort of comment is frowned upon around here in a major way!
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going to try it!
now someone should make a keygen
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man, y'all are cheap! lol, its only 4.99 but has some other nice features as well, like double tapping touch area at bottom for launching apps I'm downloading now, anyone try it yet?
Nice App
Hey I paid For the App but i can't put my owner name in the Space it won't let me So i posted a Thread on The Fourm for GScroll So i will update you Guys on how it is When i get it Working....
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Hey I paid For the App but i can't put my owner name in the Space it won't let me So i posted a Thread on The Fourm for GScroll So i will update you Guys on how it is When i get it Working....
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Your name goes in Start-->Settings-->Personal (Tab)-->Owner Information
Owner name is a standard way of generating registration keys.
Also, I don't think we need a keygen for a $4.99 app. Eat one less Big Mac this week and support the developer. That said, has anyone gotten the accelerometer based scrolling to work? I've tried tapping, double-tapping, tapping and holding, double tapping and holding, etc on both the center (enter) button as well as on the Nav circle around the perimeter (the wording in the usage guide was somewhat vague) and nothing seems to work. Anybody got this to work? The other functions seem to be working OK, if not 100% reliably.
this is the iphones fault
a simple program like this would never have been charged for
then the iphones damn app store comes along and every program wants money now :/
bedoig said:
Your name goes in Start-->Settings-->Personal (Tab)-->Owner Information
Owner name is a standard way of generating registration keys.
Also, I don't think we need a keygen for a $4.99 app. Eat one less Big Mac this week and support the developer. That said, has anyone gotten the accelerometer based scrolling to work? I've tried tapping, double-tapping, tapping and holding, double tapping and holding, etc on both the center (enter) button as well as on the Nav circle around the perimeter (the wording in the usage guide was somewhat vague) and nothing seems to work. Anybody got this to work? The other functions seem to be working OK, if not 100% reliably.
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i am not buying a app that doesn't work...
bedoig said:
That said, has anyone gotten the accelerometer based scrolling to work? I've tried tapping, double-tapping, tapping and holding, double tapping and holding, etc on both the center (enter) button as well as on the Nav circle around the perimeter (the wording in the usage guide was somewhat vague) and nothing seems to work. Anybody got this to work? The other functions seem to be working OK, if not 100% reliably.
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I got it to work no problems, just double tap the center button(don't depress it, just touch) and you'll feel a short vibration to let you know its enabled. Its pretty awesome to just put a slight angle on phone and be able to flip through photos, emails, music etc right from home screen without pushing buttons, just see them flipping through until you hold phone flat to stop. I really like the app launcher as well. A well spent 5 bucks.
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going to try it!
now someone should make a keygen
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Well, I could decompile the program. But then again I could purchase the program for 5.00 and support the developers hard work.
I think ill purchase it. LIKE YOU SHOULD DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't really like the scroll feature as i use ftouchsl but I like having 4 extra buttons. so i might buy it also going to test it a little bit first
the 4 buttons does seem nice
one for start
one for file explorer and a surprise for the other 2 i guess
the app is well worth the 5 bucks.
been using it for a couple of days and already i love it
herg62123 said:
the app is well worth the 5 bucks.
been using it for a couple of days and already i love it
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is the tilt scrolling actually practical?
the instinct has it in the web browser and when i played with it it almost always felt easier to simply scroll on screen
lbhocky19 said:
is the tilt scrolling actually practical?
the instinct has it in the web browser and when i played with it it almost always felt easier to simply scroll on screen
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i don't use the tilt feature, i use the touch scroll feature
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
i got it from here:
HANDANGO
lbhocky19 said:
is the tilt scrolling actually practical?
the instinct has it in the web browser and when i played with it it almost always felt easier to simply scroll on screen
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I don't think the tilt scrolling is good for using in apps either, but it is a neat feature for scrolling through media. And plus you can disable/enable it without opening options, so its easy to turn on/off. I find the touchpad easier for a lot of the scrolling than actually using touchscreen though.
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I got it to work no problems, just double tap the center button(don't depress it, just touch) and you'll feel a short vibration to let you know its enabled. Its pretty awesome to just put a slight angle on phone and be able to flip through photos, emails, music etc right from home screen without pushing buttons, just see them flipping through until you hold phone flat to stop. I really like the app launcher as well. A well spent 5 bucks.
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I wonder if something I have installed is conflicting with GScroll, because the tilt scrolling absolutely, positively won't work for me. I'm not depressing the physical button, just touching the capacitive face, so unfortunately that's not the issue. The only thing I can think of that could be conflicting is the SmartTouch scroll wheel functionality, but that is built into everyone's ROM from the factory. I've added a few additional programs to use with SmartTouch (through Schaps Advanced Config), but since the base functionality is already built in I wouldn't think it would be an issue. Anybody else have trouble getting it to work?
Some of the programs features are a bit useless (like the swipe to send arrow keys...isn't it just easier to push the actual arrow key that your finger is right next to anyway?), but a lot of the features are great. The four extra mappable buttons are awesome to have for these phones. The swipe to scroll is also a bit easier than reaching up on the screen for a scroll bar. If only this stupid tilt scrolling would work. I probably wouldn't even use it that much, but now I have to get it working, lol. All in all, I'm glad I paid 5 bucks if for nothing else than the four extra mappable keys. Although I really thought someone at XDA would have already made a freeware release, 4.99 is such a reasonable price why not buy it.
[Edit: A reinstall of the program fixed my issues. Tilt scrolling is working, and I can now go on happily not using it ]
lbhocky19 said:
is the tilt scrolling actually practical?
the instinct has it in the web browser and when i played with it it almost always felt easier to simply scroll on screen
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Not really.. even if you tilt more it doesn't accelerate (as you would keep pressing a navigation key).
Some suggestions for the developer:
- tilt acceleration, if we tilt more the device the scrolling/navigation speed should accelerate
- an option to chose one of the following (for d-pad navigation):
tap & drag to a direction (eg: tap top, drag down => will keep scrolling/send navigation keep till I get my finger off from touch area. very useful when we need to scroll something large. the same as tilt acceleration suggestion, if we keep the finger on the touch area it will actually accelerate the scrolling, and not sending navigation key with pauses)
simple tap for scrolling/navigation. the touch area should be divided in 4 or 5 zones (one for click/enter key). if we keep the finger on the touch area it will keep scrolling/send navigation key)
- Gscroll is not compatible with all games (for eg: Tomb Raider)
BTW, tilt navigation works for me. Have to tap twice on the sensitive d-pad area (center circle). It vibrates when the tilt navigation is enable. Taping the capacitive area will disable the tilt navigation.
One bug found, touch shot doesn't work in Camera application if GScroll is active
Wow, now that I have the tilt scrolling working I actually really like it. I can see what others are saying about it not being particularly useful in long lists (file explorer, etc), but using the smart select mode in TF3D is AWESOME. Anybody that loved the teaser videos for schaps' TouchXperience ROMs will find that GScroll gives you a lot of those cool abilities to flick (tilt) your way through the entire TF3D menu. Flicking through songs, contacts, pictures, text messages, etc is really cool!
My main complaint now is just that the double-tap recognition is not 100% accurate. I think just holding the center button would be a better means of activating tilt scrolling. Then just release it when you want to stop. I wonder how hard that would be to change.
Has anyone contacted the developer? Has he/she been responsive?
Good day,
I've been fiddling around with my new FUZE, and I really like using the HTC Task Manager to switch between programs while I multitask. The question is, is there a way to enable it so the Task Manager icon replaces the typical "X" that shows up for running programs?
From what I know if it now, the only way to access the menu is to go to the Today screen. So basically, every time I want to switch to a different program, I have to press the Home button and access the Task Manager from there. It's quite annoying, and I want to see if it's possible to switch between programs using the Task Manager without having to go to the Today screen.
I also know that some windows show "ok" instead of the typical X, usually for editing settings for certain things. I don't want the Task Manager to replace the "ok"s, just the "X"s, since most of the time you have to click the "ok"s to save whatever settings you've set in that window.
Thanks in advance!
soloDOTcom1185 said:
Good day,
I've been fiddling around with my new FUZE, and I really like using the HTC Task Manager to switch between programs while I multitask. The question is, is there a way to enable it so the Task Manager icon replaces the typical "X" that shows up for running programs?
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You might want to check out gscroll (mobilesrc.com). It allows you to switch between apps without going back to the today screen. A horizontal swipe (left to right) across the top of the capacitative pad brings up a little pop-up that shows all the live apps running. You have to be quick (hopefully they fix that), but if you tap the icon you want to go to, that app is then brought up. Otherwise, swiping switches between the last two apps used.
Farmer Ted said:
You might want to check out gscroll (mobilesrc.com). It allows you to switch between apps without going back to the today screen. A horizontal swipe (left to right) across the top of the capacitative pad brings up a little pop-up that shows all the live apps running. You have to be quick (hopefully they fix that), but if you tap the icon you want to go to, that app is then brought up. Otherwise, swiping switches between the last two apps used.
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Interesting. So what you're saying is that it's currently not possible to set the default behavior of HTC's Task Manager to show outside of the Today screen? A friend of mine has pointed me to another program called WkTask, and it functions as a program launcher as well as a task manager, no matter what program you're running. It's freeware, so I'm going to give it a shot.
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Interesting. So what you're saying is that it's currently not possible to set the default behavior of HTC's Task Manager to show outside of the Today screen? A friend of mine has pointed me to another program called WkTask, and it functions as a program launcher as well as a task manager, no matter what program you're running. It's freeware, so I'm going to give it a shot.
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No, I'm not saying that; I actually have no clue if you can get the task manager to appear like you want it to. You may well be able to do it. All I know is that for 5 bucks, you can accomplish the same function using gscroll. It's actually easier, because clicking on the quick menu icon takes a bit of concentration (it's real easy to miss and hit whatever's next to or below it instead). The swipe across the capacitative pad (above the d-pad button) is pretty fool-proof, once you get used to it. Plus, it's kind of cool. You can also use gscroll as a program launcher (up to 4 pre-set programs), fwiw.
WkTask may be the ticket for you, though. I've never used it myself.
Or maybe install program QuickMenu (freeware): http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-quickmenu-v2-7.html
I've tried Wisbar, QuickMenu, and gScroll and found them buggy on the Fuze. Wisbar will do what you want but mucks up TF3D. QuickMenu showed potential but cluttered the StartMenu. I couldn't figure out to get gScroll to work right but then I'm stupid.
actually, can someone tell me which file corresponds to the large task manager that comes up when u hit the top right? ive been trying to find it so i can map it in wisbar? thanks in advance
You mean the quick menu? I think this is what you want (just the cab name):
HTC_TASK_MANAGER_2_1_34563_3R.CAB
yep, the actual quick menu. but, i dont see the htctaskmanager. i see taskmanager.exe and taskmanagerapplite.exe. but, neither one of those is the actual quick menu. let me check again it is in windows correct?
Look up "Alt+Tab"... a little program that performs an ALT+Tab command on a Windows PC.
Here are several that I've used in the past.
TaskSwitch+
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
http://page.freett.com/todamitsu/file/ts_ppc004.zip
Phmkeys
http://www.gpspassion.com/upload/PHMKeys.exe
AltTab
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http://www.luthier.ca/other/forum/AltTab.exe
To use: Assign to a button or launch manually via shortcut. Typically multiple button presses will rotate between open programs.
schneid said:
I've tried Wisbar, QuickMenu, and gScroll and found them buggy on the Fuze. Wisbar will do what you want but mucks up TF3D. QuickMenu showed potential but cluttered the StartMenu. I couldn't figure out to get gScroll to work right but then I'm stupid.
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I'd recommend giving Quickmenu 2.8 another chance. Once you run once it automatically starts on soft reset and its very customizable. I'll just run down the list of things I change from initial install and I end up with only 5 choices when the start menu pops down. It show very small and the 5 choices are "Running Tasks, QuickMenu, Recent, Programs, Settings" they all show as a pop-out menu so its very aesthetically pleasing. OK... here's how its done.
Start --> QuickMenu --> Option...
Options screen pops up --> Here's some screen shots of the choices I use. All menu view items have check in show as sub menu (that makes it a pop-out menu instead of listing in start). No need to move checked items up, only did because they wouldnt show in screenshot otherwise. Other tabs can be left stock or customized to suite you.
Hope that helps.
Also HUGE shout out to EVERYONE on this forum who helps us all have the baddest phones available!!!
i use quickmenu.
migh tgive gscroll a try.
So basically, people are recommending Quickmenu most of all. Personally, I found it to be one of the more practical apps to use, since I love how it doubles as a task manager as well as a start menu replacement. It's great not having to open up a separate window to access my programs.
I've also tried using WkTask, but it's quirky and doesn't work in ways I like it to.
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to the WM6 taskmanager to do what you want to do.
i also want this, how to replace the "X" with the task manager or just put task manager in all apps, regards!
How did you do it?
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to the WM6 taskmanager to do what you want to do.
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so that the quick menu pops up when in applications?
It's bugged me for ages but only started looking for solutions today...
Cheers.
I have asked this before,even in the mort script thread.
Dont think it possible yet my friend,
there are loads of other task managers that pop up in all programs or by the remap of a key.Just have to search for which suits you.
I havent found one that suits me completely ( Guess am fussy )
Touch Commanders one is of my faves but is so buggy,Showcase is ok too.
Pending what ROM you use guys long press SEND (not END) will pop up a task manager, right softkey "switch to" ... done. No harm no foul just as easy as I wrote.
SEND is the "phone button" bottom left in case you don't know or remember.
Hi there, dont know if you are still looking for a solution but try installing htc task manager, after that you should be able to bring up task manager by holding down the answer key until it pops up, cheers
Hey XDAyers, was wondering if somebody would be kind enough to develop this useful tool.
Purpose:
Making the left and right navigation buttons easier, actually usable, since now they are currently useless due to impractical key pressing.
How:
The tool would actually disable all kinds of hardware response, and whatever physical button is pressed the action is defined by the program. Using both the physical button press in addition to your finger location on the capacitive area to define the action to be taken.
In other words, all the buttons that get pressed are useless/actionless without the capacitive area actually saying the coordinates of your finger. With that, if i press the capacitive area anywhere, even the home button while my finger was anywhere except the absolute top absolute left corner, the action would be left! Check the photos below to have a better picture of what i mean.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Reserved for future use.
No replies? only poll clicking? Come on people, this could be the best thing to ever happen for the touch pro, we finally use left and right buttons. Start talking, give me your ideas, and please inform the Devs. you know about this, maybe one of them would actually implement it.
There's already something like this, it's called gscroll. However, it costs $9.
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There's already something like this, it's called gscroll. However, it costs $9.
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I own gscroll mate, but no its nothing like what am describing above
Gscroll does not use the physical buttons at all, its all about the capacitive area and so on. What am suggesting is using the hardware buttons for TAKE ACTION and the Action is defined on where your finger was on the capacitive area
BTW, about gscroll, do you know how can i disable the programs launcher so as to use the directions only?
The programs launcher is annoying and pops up a lot when all i want is to scroll/up down left right
Cheers
I agree with you in that this would be a very good tweak, since learning the supposed "sweet spot" for left/right keys is quite impractical while using the corners is much more intuitive...
I can only hope this gets developed!
Best regards and thanks!
yup
I love the idea. Both Gscroll and Sensor scroll have attmpted to make this work using only the capacitive area. Your method relies on the hardware buttons as well. I really hope someone can make this work.
For most uses of the phone I can make-do with it, but gaming is awful! Also, neither of the programs work with all games. Morphgear and some other older games I have dont read any input from the capacitive area. However, they do read the hard keys, making this a "possible" solution.
Unfortunately, my optimism for being able to ever do some serious gaming on this phone has faded. I wish I still had my Tilt
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I love the idea. Both Gscroll and Sensor scroll have attmpted to make this work using only the capacitive area. Your method relies on the hardware buttons as well. I really hope someone can make this work.
For most uses of the phone I can make-do with it, but gaming is awful! Also, neither of the programs work with all games. Morphgear and some other older games I have dont read any input from the capacitive area. However, they do read the hard keys, making this a "possible" solution.
Unfortunately, my optimism for being able to ever do some serious gaming on this phone has faded. I wish I still had my Tilt
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Why do you say so bro, i have the exact same feeling like you towards both programs, but am still optimistic about gaming on ma touch pro, if the tool above gets programmed, somehow, i believe it WILL solve all our problems
But who's the dev who can do this? Cannot find him yet! if only a dev can give me the commends or classes that talk to the capacitive are and hardware button, i would develop the tool myself, but i need a looot of work in the beginning
Well, well, well, you have renewed my wishy-washy hope again my friend!
But consider this - I guess I say this because of my current setup to make morphgear as usable as possible. I am running dred sensor, and set the home/call keys to left. This means that if i press any of the left/home/call it should press left. But it just does not respond as well as it needs to.
Don't worry though, I will keep the faith. And if you get it to work, you better have a donate button ready!
Thanks, and best of luck!
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Well, well, well, you have renewed my wishy-washy hope again my friend!
But consider this - I guess I say this because of my current setup to make morphgear as usable as possible. I am running dred sensor, and set the home/call keys to left. This means that if i press any of the left/home/call it should press left. But it just does not respond as well as it needs to.
Don't worry though, I will keep the faith. And if you get it to work, you better have a donate button ready!
Thanks, and best of luck!
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Thanks bro Wish you can tel me how to do the donate button, or it is simply a link to a paypal account somehow. Anyways, once i get it done, one way or another, as for the above way (dred) sensor, never tried it, but from what i understand, it disables the home and back keys, both keys are actually useful, so nope.
Hope the tool above gets developed by me or sm1 else, coz i believe it should work. Cheers mate
actually, with dredsensor it not only disables the buttons, but allows them to be set to any action, i.e. right or left. So I am having a hard time seeing that your method will make much difference. I think the root of the problem is where the hard keys are located. Referring to the "sweet spot" you will notice that the left and right buttons are quite wider than up/down. This makes it difficult to get diagonal button presses, because of the circle in the center of the pad is what you feel, and the buttons are inequally spaced.
Anyways, I hope you can make it work. Thanks again bro!
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actually, with dredsensor it not only disables the buttons, but allows them to be set to any action, i.e. right or left. So I am having a hard time seeing that your method will make much difference. I think the root of the problem is where the hard keys are located. Referring to the "sweet spot" you will notice that the left and right buttons are quite wider than up/down. This makes it difficult to get diagonal button presses, because of the circle in the center of the pad is what you feel, and the buttons are inequally spaced.
Anyways, I hope you can make it work. Thanks again bro!
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Well, the difference between dred and this imaginary tool hehe, is that dred actually changes the action key of the home button completely, in my proposed idea, you can still have a home back left and right dial and hangup buttons, depending on where your finger is located on the capacitive area, and all physical buttons are set to the action "Click"
Wish it works
i think it would be awesome to take this a step further and have it run in Opera like a trackpad. Maybe use the capacitive are as a mouse and have a click on the center hardware key make a selection. Kind of like the web browser in the Blackberry Storm
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i think it would be awesome to take this a step further and have it run in Opera like a trackpad. Maybe use the capacitive are as a mouse and have a click on the center hardware key make a selection. Kind of like the web browser in the Blackberry Storm
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but we use our fingers/stylus to click/tap :S
amnya said:
BTW, about gscroll, do you know how can i disable the programs launcher so as to use the directions only?
The programs launcher is annoying and pops up a lot when all i want is to scroll/up down left right
Cheers
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I believe this should work
Start / Settings/ Mobile Src GScroll
Go to the launch tab, and delete all the apps listed.
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I believe this should work
Start / Settings/ Mobile Src GScroll
Go to the launch tab, and delete/reassign anything that says ::appswitch
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http://www.mobilesrc.com/forums/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3
This issue is being dealt with on the forum, a new beta has been released with per process app launch.
Let's try not to hijack this thread, since gscroll has its own threads, and own forum. Thanks.
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http://www.mobilesrc.com/forums/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3
This issue is being dealt with on the forum, a new beta has been released with per process app launch.
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Your reply forced me to go back and read what was asked...so I must edit my original reply to say delete EVERYTHING under the launcher...not just the appswitch.
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Let's try not to hijack this thread, since gscroll has its own threads, and own forum. Thanks.
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While I would agree with this, I'm pretty sure that my reply doesn't qualify as thread hijacking when the OP is the one who originally posted the question.
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Your reply forced me to go back and read what was asked...so I must edit my original reply to say delete EVERYTHING under the launcher...not just the appswitch.
While I would agree with this, I'm pretty sure that my reply doesn't qualify as thread hijacking when the OP is the one who originally posted the question.
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Thanx for your reply guys, actually i thank you both for your replies and no i don't find it hijacking. I thank you both for every post you did here I just hope i either find someone to develop the tool am talking about OR i manage somehow to find the resources i need to build it myself
Cheers mates
if anyone experienced with customizing the tp can tell me the tools i would need to do this i might be able to start writing a program. ive made computer appps before so im sure i can figure out ppc
EDIT: Jnadke has used the 'Back' key to access the last used programs menu. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668267
How do I access the task switcher? long pressing 'home' just takes me back to the home screen.
EDIT: Vote for your favorite task switcher key config and maybe we can get dzo to smile upon us
#1 - Long Press Pwr
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
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#2 - Long Press Green
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#3 - Red + Camera
mrono said:
How do I access the task switcher? long pressing 'home' just takes me back to the home screen.
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that used to be with the old keymapping
inertone said:
that used to be with the old keymapping
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isnt it long hold of the menu key now?
thoughtlesskyle said:
isnt it long hold of the menu key now?
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that flips the screen, which I pretty much never use
I didn't even know there is a task switcher that comes with Myn's build. I use Taskpanel, I don't think there is a short cut key for switching task.
i didnt know either - i use advanced task manager to close programs then just relaunch from home
task switcher would be nice
its built into android
get your hands on any android phone and long hold the home button
a little task switcher comes up
i guess with the new keymapping it disables it
i wonder if myn could incorporate this into his next build
or i think it'd have to be dzo in the next NBH file or something
yeah, there is a built in task switcher, but you need a hardware key to activate it. as previously stated, we used to have a hardware key mapped to it, but no longer. i used to use a combination of NotifTS and Task Switcher (by Tools), which worked pretty well (notifTS gave a notification bar shorcut for Task Switcher, which is a pretty slick customizable task list). Anyone have any other good suggestions?
tatnai said:
yeah, there is a built in task switcher, but you need a hardware key to activate it. as previously stated, we used to have a hardware key mapped to it, but no longer. i used to use a combination of NotifTS and Task Switcher (by Tools), which worked pretty well (notifTS gave a notification bar shorcut for Task Switcher, which is a pretty slick customizable task list). Anyone have any other good suggestions?
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free advanced task manager on market. It does it all.
I'm a memory nazi - it would be nice to be able to access the built in one lol. I do have the pay version of advanced task manager cuz I'm such a high roller lol
it's a great task killer/manager. but a great task switcher, IMO, is one that takes the fewest clicks to switch between apps, can be accessed while in another app, and is fast - you can't be waiting two, three seconds waiting for the app list to pop up. two actions to change to another app is ideal (one to activate switcher, one to select app), but without a hardware key mapped, this is hard to do.
EDIT: my synopsis: taskpanel, ATK, and notifTS + task switcher are equivalent on number of clicks. notifTS + TS takes a second longer to load, I think because the program isn't actively running (taskpanel, ATK take longer than notifts+TS the first time you click them, then they are super fast, I think they are keeping a process going in the background). on mssmison's rom which actively shuts down apps, the only one that really shows me anything to switch to is notifts+ts, because it can be set to show running and recent apps. so, pick your poison .. .
aside, if you want a task killer, taskpanel and taskiller give you autokill options, and taskiller gives a kill after boot option, taskiller is my pick. taskiller, however, does not allow you to switch to a task with one click (you have to long click) so it loses as a task switcher for that reason alone.
Try TaskOS beta for a one app task switcher like notifTS + TS, has worse lag though, but very customizable (icon size, etc).
berardi said:
I'm a memory nazi - it would be nice to be able to access the built in one lol. I do have the pay version of advanced task manager cuz I'm such a high roller lol
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me too but the free one is sufficient
tatnai said:
it's a great task killer/manager. but a great task switcher, IMO, is one that takes the fewest clicks to switch between apps, can be accessed while in another app, and is fast - you can't be waiting two, three seconds waiting for the app list to pop up. two actions to change to another app is ideal (one to activate switcher, one to select app), but without a hardware key mapped, this is hard to do.
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you can access the task wsitcher at all times in notifacation bar.
tatnai said:
it's a great task killer/manager. but a great task switcher, IMO, is one that takes the fewest clicks to switch between apps, can be accessed while in another app, and is fast - you can't be waiting two, three seconds waiting for the app list to pop up. two actions to change to another app is ideal (one to activate switcher, one to select app), but without a hardware key mapped, this is hard to do.
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Yeah, that's why I don't bother keeping ATM open =/
I wonder does anyone actually use landscape mode? but if we had to hold and wait for the task switcher to popup it would probably be annoying anyways..
berardi said:
I wonder does anyone actually use landscape mode? but if we had to hold and wait for the task switcher to popup it would probably be annoying anyways..
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to tell you the truth
i HIGHLY doubt it
apps that need landscape automatically switch by themselves
berardi said:
I'm a memory nazi - it would be nice to be able to access the built in one lol. I do have the pay version of advanced task manager cuz I'm such a high roller lol
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But can you assign it with a button? So that I can jump out of full screen apps like gps.
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I'm a memory nazi - it would be nice to be able to access the built in one lol. I do have the pay version of advanced task manager cuz I'm such a high roller lol
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But can you assign it with a button? So that I can jump out of full screen apps like gps.
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afaik we have nothing that can launch from a button right now. holy grail for task switching on Vogue, we had now we just need to get it back.
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I wonder does anyone actually use landscape mode? but if we had to hold and wait for the task switcher to popup it would probably be annoying anyways..
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to tell you the truth
i HIGHLY doubt it
apps that need landscape automatically switch by themselves
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i use it when using navigation and at times while web browsing. if we got rid of the button we'd have to get an icon to click to switch.
tatnai said:
i use it when using navigation and at times while web browsing. if we got rid of the button we'd have to get an icon to click to switch.
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well i must admit
browsing is awesome landscape!!
i think there's a widget that does that...
ima go look for it
inertone said:
well i must admit
browsing is awesome landscape!!
i think there's a widget that does that...
ima go look for it
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yeah ive tried to find a screen oreintation switch app but never had any luck. if you find it let us know. thanks