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TouchFlo Cube on Kaiser (well sort of!)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326523&highlight=touch.dll+cube
Post 11 has a 'this cab' hyperlink
I installed it and followed the instructions, and now have the cube by hardware button but can't make it spin with my finger (aaargh!).
I am off to a wedding so can't play more for a few days.
Is there more to it? I would have thought the Kaiser had the correct type of touchscreen to do this, since we have the scroll TouchFlo, which is ironically what's missing here!!
Cheers,
Joe

Just giving this a bump. Is nobody into the cube interface like the Elf (HTC Touch) has?
This, imho, is the app that makes the kaiser the iphone killer for sexiness !
Cheers,
Joe

The "touch ability" of the TyTN II's screen is not as sensitive as the HTC Touch. The touchability is not very good. If you try using your finger to scroll down a web page you will find that you have to apply quite a bit of pressure. Pushing the screen is decent, but finger motion tracking is very poor.

w4rmk said:
The "touch ability" of the TyTN II's screen is not as sensitive as the HTC Touch. The touchability is not very good. If you try using your finger to scroll down a web page you will find that you have to apply quite a bit of pressure. Pushing the screen is decent, but finger motion tracking is very poor.
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If the hardware is there I really expect cookers here to fix the software response at some point when the Kaiser is more widely available.

While it looks cool to spin the cube by sliding the finger across the screen, wouldn't it be more direct and quick to just hit the D-Pad to spin the cube? After all the TouchCube is there to provide quick access to functions you need most, I found it amusing at watching some reviewer's videos how they have to do a few times to get the cube spin properly. If that is sexy, I have to say it doesn't last

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While it looks cool to spin the cube by sliding the finger across the screen, wouldn't it be more direct and quick to just hit the D-Pad to spin the cube? After all the TouchCube is there to provide quick access to functions you need most, I found it amusing at watching some reviewer's videos how they have to do a few times to get the cube spin properly. If that is sexy, I have to say it doesn't last
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I agree completely, and who wants to smudge over their TFT screen with finger tips anyway, it's not sexy having a TFT screen covered in dirty finger marks and smudges, not in my book anyway
Regards
Phil

My wife has a iphone, and i hacked it with this really cool menu function where you start your fingerin the corner of the phone from any screen and it pops up a rainbow of icons from which you can scroll right and left to highlight the one you want o activate. It is Super Awesome. The "current' icon your selecting shows up in upper left corner - This screen shot, is jumbled because they are doing it on the main menu page, but you can get this rainbow menu from any application
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Also playing with her phone and using the screen commands with fingers you fall quickly in love. It really is light years beyond the traditional, very minority report. its super easy.
If it did 3g, i'd be super tempted to get an iphone, the keyboard is still a deal breaker, but the rest of it is almost that cool.
check out this video
http://creationsnet.blip.tv/file/362441/

Just a quick reply to the original post - I installed this on my Kaiser today and it works fine. No performance issues so far (as opposed to what Hermes users are reporting). As to the folks (bchau, philipl) who want to use the D-Pad to move thru the cube, the D-Pad is working just fine for me.
Customization of the cube contents is easier done thru manipulation of the text files directly, rather than using the editor that's in the main web page.
Pretty neat.
M

Yes I have it working, although on reboot I have experienced the black screen hang reported on that thread.
When you say it's working fine, are you able to spin the cube with your finger on the screen, or is it via the hardware button / D pad.
As an fyi, the D pad doesn't spin it for me, I had to use the button.
Cheers,
Joe

I can spin the cube with my finger and with the d-pad both. Starting the cube with the first touch is hard, but rotating the cube is much easier w/fingers.
Now I have to work on getting the icons to match the apps.

I had the Touch, now I don't. Personally I think the cube is redundant and mostly for show. This is just my opinion.
The best features of the Touch were the touch scrolling in contacts, on the internet and elsewhere.

Could you please tell me how did you do that ???
mlekas said:
I can spin the cube with my finger and with the d-pad both. Starting the cube with the first touch is hard, but rotating the cube is much easier w/fingers.
Now I have to work on getting the icons to match the apps.
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Could you please tell me how did you do that ?

You mean how I got to be able to spin the cube with my finger and d-pad? I just tried it and it worked.
If you mean the icons, I had to do a bunch of renaming of files and could only have as many apps as there were in the demo. I'm sure there's a better way to do this.
Other than eye candy the cube isn't all that useful.

mlekas said:
You mean how I got to be able to spin the cube with my finger and d-pad? I just tried it and it worked.
If you mean the icons, I had to do a bunch of renaming of files and could only have as many apps as there were in the demo. I'm sure there's a better way to do this.
Other than eye candy the cube isn't all that useful.
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sorry to bother you with that but would you be able to tell me step by step what you did assuming you started with the original rom ?
also do you have to follow some procedure to activate it each time you soft reset the device ?

iPhone
I love the way the post was treated with contempt.

Well the iphone post was informative but strictly speaking off topic as the idea is to get touchflo cube working for all of us Kaiser users.
But I know what you mean ;-)
mlekas can you give a step by step on how you installed it as I am on original ROMs but after following the instructions in the first post I made on this topic, I definitely can't get any spin working except by the hardware button.
There's got to be something I have done wrong !
Cheers,
Joe

mlekas said:
Just a quick reply to the original post - I installed this on my Kaiser today and it works fine. No performance issues so far (as opposed to what Hermes users are reporting). As to the folks (bchau, philipl) who want to use the D-Pad to move thru the cube, the D-Pad is working just fine for me.
Customization of the cube contents is easier done thru manipulation of the text files directly, rather than using the editor that's in the main web page.
Pretty neat.
M
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i still haven't had any luck installing this. i tried about 10 times and gave up. tried every different installing solution i came across. anyone else not been able to get this working?

quick update. i decided to try the install on a fresh system so i did a hard rest and reinstalled the app. the first time around i actually saw the cube and was able to activate it through the hardware button. the only way i was able to move the cube around was from the same hardware button. after a soft rest i got the black screen. i did another hard rest and this time no luck. after 3 more hard resets and no luck i gave up. i guess someone with some skills could get the cube working properly. if anyone else had any better success please let me know.

Got it working but not with D-PAD...
flexte said:
...if anyone else had any better success please let me know.
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I got the CUBE to work via hardware button only. I didn't need to do a soft reset but it wouldn't work until I removed all the Today Plugins I had installed (SPB Shell, Weather, Diary, etc.). When I install any of those back, I get a black screen. Without them, the CUBE works fine..even after soft resets.
TEC

strange.. i had it working after a hard reset once but after that i got a black screen , and that was with nothing else installed. must have been an old registry setting that never changed after the hard reset that is giving me the black screen.

Map X Button App to hardware button

I have been through several very long threads on this and several people have asked but no one ever answers. I am a big fan of the button mapping programs and want to be able to call up the HTC app which shows the currently running programs. I am not even sure what to call it, as I have seen it as X Button, and also as Task Manager. However, I am not looking for the settings menu Task Manager utility which is the full fledged program allowing some setting changes and adding programs to the excluded list, etc. Rather I am looking for the Pop Up menu that comes up when you tap and hold the close button. I have search my device for every .EXE and tried them all, yet I still can not figure out how to call this program directly. Is this not possible? Is it similar to a today plug in that requires you to be on the Tday screen to run it? Any help would be appreciated.

I believe Spb Pocket Plus can do this. It has a button mapper, but you can also set "OK" (Butto 4) to "[Close]" (from the default "<Ok/Close>") and that should work.

But thats way on the back of the phone when using the slide out keyboard.

CorruptedSanity said:
But thats way on the back of the phone when using the slide out keyboard.
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Huh? Button 4 is the OK button on the front of the phone.

hesh said:
Huh? Button 4 is the OK button on the front of the phone.
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Sorry I thought you were referring to the OK button below the jog dial. My bad.

It's not, really. There are three "OK" buttons. One on the faceplate, one on the left-hand side, and one on the slide out keyboard. I've use the new version of Pocket Plus to map the one on the face plate to "OK" with a press and "Close" on a long press. The button hesh is referring to is the one on the face plate (under the "End" button).
Of course, this is the TyTN II layout, so the Tilt may be different. Key point - there is a way to do what you want with Pocket Plus - map a button (any one you like) to "[Close Button Context Menu]" which is a function that Pocket Plus will add for you (it won't exist without it installed).

still not helping...
i have also read about 150 pages worth of posts to no avail on this topic and would greatly appreciate a solution. i think that some of you are missing the question entirely though so im going to give a crack at presenting the question a little bit clearer.
What we are trying to do here is map a hardware button to whatever process it is that brings up the "HTC X-Button" menu. The specific menu we want is the drop down that appears when the upper right corner is tapped from the today screen. the thread i got the app from originally i cant seem to find for some reason, but heres a link to one i did find link. Heres a screen shot.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
we do not want to know if there is another task switching application with these features such as the spb product or any others.
thanks in advance for any responses and hope this clears things up a bit.

dislexicmofo has it right. I was looking to call the program "HTC X-Button" from a button instead of a stylis tap. The "HTC X-Button" does not show up as an application, and I can not figure out how to call it directly by another means. I am guessing it may depend on the today screen being in the foreground, however, I would like it to come up without any regard to the foreground application.
FWIW, I finally gave up and installed InClose, as it shows up as a program under the Applications List.
As for SPB, I like their stuff, just not enough to pay for it and I have had many compability problems in the past (although that was several iterations ago),.
So even if SPB did provide this feature, I was looking for a freeware variation.

I tried to ask this same question in the "Latest Cabs for Kaisers" thread stickied at the top:
MAXPOW3R said:
i have installed HTC Task manager v2.00 (build 30740) from dutty's first post. (i can't seem to get the other one to install - which is fine). anyway, this task manager has a "quick menu" in the upper right hand corner of your today screen that you can click with your stylus and that lists all your running applications nicely. i would like to create a short-cut to this quick menu, but i'm not sure how to do it because it is just a part of the task manager program and not a program itself. Does anyone have any ideas? The reason I like this quick menu better than the list you get when you click on the task manager icon is because the list does not go away after you make a single selection. in other words, you can close out several programs from the list instead of having to bring the list back up after you close each application. any ideas?
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I don't understand how people can live without this...
It's awful not having a hotkey to the tasklist...
Can this simple thing not be done ?
EDIT: AE Button plus has sorted things out for me

I remember a softkey app back in the wizard days. This closed the program by holding the right softkey down. Forgot what it was called.

thomassster said:
I remember a softkey app back in the wizard days. This closed the program by holding the right softkey down. Forgot what it was called.
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Smartskey. I use it almost purely for that reason alone. Press and hold the right softkey and it closes the current app like tapping the X. Or press and hold the left softkey and it opens the Start Menu (which really isn't needed on the Kaiser since there is a Start menu button already, but then you could remap that if you wanted).

you're not going to be able to do that. AS someone else said it is depended upong the today screen being in the foreground. The intent of the original app wasn't to be a task switcher, but just a simple task manager to be able to close app from the tapping the X button. That was the original design of ver1. Ver2 brought the additional buttons and the overall look, but it's still not a task switcher and it's hooked into the OS to work only when the today is present.
I know you don't want to hear this but SPB PP4 is the app that will do what you want, and it was designed to do what you want from it's creation. Not only can you pull down the task list in any app (not just today screen) but you can also map the PPT button to their alt+tab switcher, which works just like windows alt+tab combo.
I like the look of the HTC one and the size of the buttons within it, by I find myself using PPC4 more and more...

ya, me neither - i found "VBar" which i mapped to a hardware button and which initializes the X button pulldown, wherein you can switch tasks, close apps, or close the vBar itself (which has a kinda cheesy image-but not bad for free!) haven't figured out how to program it yet? . . . but works right out of the box.
ciao
Subliminal Aura said:
I don't understand how people can live without this...
It's awful not having a hotkey to the tasklist...
Can this simple thing not be done ?
EDIT: AE Button plus has sorted things out for me
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smittyofdhs said:
you're not going to be able to do that. AS someone else said it is depended upong the today screen being in the foreground. The intent of the original app wasn't to be a task switcher, but just a simple task manager to be able to close app from the tapping the X button. That was the original design of ver1. Ver2 brought the additional buttons and the overall look, but it's still not a task switcher and it's hooked into the OS to work only when the today is present.
I know you don't want to hear this but SPB PP4 is the app that will do what you want, and it was designed to do what you want from it's creation. Not only can you pull down the task list in any app (not just today screen) but you can also map the PPT button to their alt+tab switcher, which works just like windows alt+tab combo.
I like the look of the HTC one and the size of the buttons within it, by I find myself using PPC4 more and more...
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FWIW, I wound up using AEB+, which, strictly speaking is not necessasy for my original question, but it allows you to assign an app close vs an app hide to the press and hold of the OK key. So essentially is does the same thing as the Softskey and more.
I then installed InClose Mobile. You CAN map this to the hardware button and it will open regardless of whether you are on the today screen or not. If you try it, be sure to turn off the HTC button as it will cause a conflict.

VJOkButt allows you to simulate a click on the screen.
I have used it in conjunction with pBar (a better replacement for HTC Task manager) or you can just assign a shortcut to pBar to a hardware button. This was the easiest way for me.

Is there a way to map the front-face "OK" button (button 4, I believe) to close the opened application without using some kind of extra button mapper?
Using Contacts to make a phone call and then having to close the contacts program afterwards without simply pushing a button is really annoying. Remapping the OK button to close applications entirely would be nice.

Shortcut to COMPLETELY Shutdown / Power Off the Kaiser? **SOLVED BY _DrG_**

My apologies if I've missed an answer to what seems like a fairly straightforward question. I searched around and found the question asked a few times over the past few years, but unfortunately no satisfactory solution. Perhaps this has now changed?
Does anybody know of a shortcut to COMPLETELY shut down / power off the Kaiser? i.e. the equivalent of pressing and holding the power key, then selecting "YES" at the "Power will be turned off and you may lose data if you have not saved them. Do you want to continue?" warning (sorry for overemphasising this but in previous threads people have offered answers which referred to the screen off / semi-power off / suspend state - not what I'm after in this instance).
psShutXP is a useful program but the "Shut Down" option does not completely shutdown my Kaiser - i.e. it wakes immediately on sliding the keyboard or pressing the power key.
I have seen suggestions that \WINDOWS\PowerOffWarning.exe might be the solution - I cannot get this to run from Total Commander or File Explorer, nor can I get it to run from a shortcut. Is it protected in some way as a system file?
If possible I'd like to achieve this without installing any software, or at least just installing something with a very small footprint - i.e. not iLauncher, Wisbar etc (which are fine pieces of software but I like to keep my machine as fast and lean as possible). I'd be quite happy with simply being able to raise the Power Off Warning mentioned in the first paragraph with a shortcut, rather than having to having to hold the power key down. As part of my job I need to frequently switch my device completely off. I am running WM6.1.
Many thanks and again, my apologies if I've missed an obvious answer to this. My portion of humble pie is on the table in front of me, ready to be eaten...

http://tiltsite.com/2008/04/tiltsite-software-spotlight-psshutxp/
It's an awesome app and takes up almost no space.

Thanks for the reply, but as mentioned in my first post psShutXP does not completely shut down / power off my device - it simply puts it into the low power sleep / suspend mode (where it can still receive calls, texts etc. and will wake immediately if you slide the keyboard).
I am looking for a shortcut to completely turn off my device, just like when you hold down the power key for a few seconds and hit yes when the warning comes up.
Any other suggestions?
Many thanks.

JC6 - I've been in the position for a while - and I've still come up with nothing.
I agree psShutXP is a useful application, but the power off function doesn't do what it's supposed to.
raiisak was going to work on one a while back, but I'm not sure if he ever got to it.

Yeah, I figured that if there was an answer to this one it would be easy enough to find on a search - it seems like the kind of thing quite a few people would want so I guess it would have been done by now if it was easy to do.
I'm not a programmer, but surely when you press and hold the power button it is executing some sort of shutdown function which can somehow be accessed through alternate means? \WINDOWS\PowerOffWarning.exe would seem like a likely candidate for this (and has been mentioned on a few threads) but it won't run when you try to access it directly (on my Kaiser / WM6.1)
I tried using VJKeyPress (great program) with a shortcut to the power key but it only seems to emulate a single short press. I couldn't see a numeric key code for a long press of the power key.
If anybody comes up with anything it would be very much appreciated...

Hi, has anyone come up with a solution for this. I have been searching the net for a while now to achieve this and have tried numerous software programmes, but have found none that achieve a complete shutdown of the device.

Ok had a little play with this, i can get the power off dialogue to appear from a shortcut using any one of the following commands and parameters in a .lnk file:
31#"\Windows\PowerOffWarning.exe", "PowerOff"
31#"\Windows\PowerOffWarning.exe" \ExitWindowsEX (EWX_POWEROFF, 0)
31#"\Windows\PowerOffWarning.exe" \ExitWindowsEX (EWX_SHUTDOWN, NULL)
31#"\Windows\PowerOffWarning.exe" \ExitWindowsEX
Not sure if any of this helps you guys out but i've attached an example, maybe some else will know a way to be able to bypass the yes/no prompt.....

Well this seems to have completely solved the problem, thank you so much! I couldn't be completely sure, but I spent a LONG time searching around for a solution to this issue, and I believe this may be the first time it's been successfully implemented (which is surprising given how it would seem like a function quite a lot of people would want).
Personally I'm not too bothered about the yes/no warning - it gives me chance to abort the process if I select it by accident.
Thanks a lot _DrG_, nice job!

_DrG_ said:
Ok had a little play with this, i can get the power off dialogue to appear from a shortcut using any one of the following commands and parameters in a .lnk file:
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Not sure if any of this helps you guys out but i've attached an example, maybe some else will know a way to be able to bypass the yes/no prompt.....
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Nice job!! I know the OP said "No extra software" but just though I'd throw in that I bet MortScript could be wrapped around this link and hit the Yes for the user.
Now I'm trying to think of how I'd use this...

how you sposed to put this shortcut on today screen?

Personally I access mine from WM5NewMenu (I love this program) - you could also put it in the start menu (copy the shortcut to \WINDOWS\START MENU\PROGRAMS and it will then show up as as an option for one of your items in the Start Menu).
If you want it to appear on the today screen then any program which allows you to launch shortcuts from a today plugin (e.g. iLauncher etc. - you may well already have something like this) will do this for you. It's "just" a shortcut (which is the best thing about it - i.e. no need to install anything extra which clogs up your system).
Cheers.

khaytsus said:
Nice job!! I know the OP said "No extra software" but just though I'd throw in that I bet MortScript could be wrapped around this link and hit the Yes for the user.
Now I'm trying to think of how I'd use this...
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http://www.vijay555.com/?Releases:VJKeyPress

Cool. Glad i could help out here
Oh for those with mortscript try this, it'll bypass the prompt (well click the yes of the prompt) for you, so nice and automated!:
Code:
Run("\Windows\PowerOffWarning.exe", "PowerOff")
Sleep(750)
MouseClick(80,185)
you may need to tweak the sleep parameter, 750 does it for me....
also my mortscript .mscr example is attached in the zip for reference....
Cheers,
khaytsus said:
Nice job!! I know the OP said "No extra software" but just though I'd throw in that I bet MortScript could be wrapped around this link and hit the Yes for the user.
Now I'm trying to think of how I'd use this...
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please add a red shutdown icon
Thank you very much _DrG_, I was also unsuccessfully searching for this. As I don't know how, could somebody please extract the red shutdown icon from the attached app (WM5 suspend only), add it to _DrG_'s shortcut and post it? Thanks in advance.

anoano said:
Thank you very much _DrG_, I was also unsuccessfully searching for this. As I don't know how, could somebody please extract the red shutdown icon from the attached app (WM5 suspend only), add it to _DrG_'s shortcut and post it? Thanks in advance.
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coz im a nice guy, heres how you do it, well the "easy way" (as apposed to assigning the icon to the PowerOffWarning.exe then having to resign it to reflect the icon... )
Just keep the PowerOff.exe installed on your device, wherever it doesn't matter, ill assume for now is in \Windows\ on your device.....
basically the .lnk would have to look like this to use the icon your after:
Code:
31#"\Windows\PowerOffWarning.exe", "PowerOff"?\Windows\PowerOff.exe, -101
OR if you have the PowerOff.exe somewhere else on your device, just replace ?\Windows \PowerOff.exe with your location
Here's the updated .lnk with the icon parameter pointing to the PowerOff.exe if its in \Windows\....
You may require a reboot to reflect the change on your device....
If all goes to plan you should be left with this beauty:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Cheers,

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If all goes to plan you should be left with this beauty:
Cheers,
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Thank you very much for your swift help.

Cab with the link and a nice icon attached here.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=982
It installs the shortcut to your program menu.
Surur

WOW! _DrG_is the man! I was looking for a long time too for someone who figured this out. Thanks a million! Just one request to anyone out there to make this even better. Can someone please figure out how to map this shortcut to the "shutdown button" on psShutxp. THAT WOULD THEN BE AN AMAZING APP! Please can someone figure out how to do that. Thank you!

surur said:
Cab with the link and a nice icon attached here.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=982
It installs the shortcut to your program menu.
Surur
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Great, thx
As soon as I just started to read DrG's solution on previous page I decided to make a cab, but you have already done it. thx
(and BTW @OP: is your power off button on your kaiser broken or you just wanted it just because psshut didnt work correctly?
Personally I'd still use the physical power off button on my kaiser, but certainly it is great idea for other devices that may not have such option, ie my old iPAQ6515)
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@surur
I see you used hardcoded path to "\Windows\Start Menu" rather than %CE11% or %CE17%
You are aware it makes your cab for WWE only, right?

Could someone please please please integrate _DrG_'s amazing find into psShutXP so that the "shutdown" button actually shuts down the phone. Im sure a lot of people would really like this.

Gscroll - navigate & scroll via accelerometer & touch pad!

A new application has been released.
GScroll - you can scroll/navigate using the accelerometer and/or capacitive touch pad zones.
demo (limited to 5 minutes) avaiable at http://www.mobilesrc.com/GScroll.aspx

going to try it!

it's good to have a try... someone should re-write a free version

That's a quick way to have the thread shutdown .. that sort of comment is frowned upon around here in a major way!
rohithathie said:
going to try it!
now someone should make a keygen
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man, y'all are cheap! lol, its only 4.99 but has some other nice features as well, like double tapping touch area at bottom for launching apps I'm downloading now, anyone try it yet?

Nice App
Hey I paid For the App but i can't put my owner name in the Space it won't let me So i posted a Thread on The Fourm for GScroll So i will update you Guys on how it is When i get it Working....

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Hey I paid For the App but i can't put my owner name in the Space it won't let me So i posted a Thread on The Fourm for GScroll So i will update you Guys on how it is When i get it Working....
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Your name goes in Start-->Settings-->Personal (Tab)-->Owner Information
Owner name is a standard way of generating registration keys.
Also, I don't think we need a keygen for a $4.99 app. Eat one less Big Mac this week and support the developer. That said, has anyone gotten the accelerometer based scrolling to work? I've tried tapping, double-tapping, tapping and holding, double tapping and holding, etc on both the center (enter) button as well as on the Nav circle around the perimeter (the wording in the usage guide was somewhat vague) and nothing seems to work. Anybody got this to work? The other functions seem to be working OK, if not 100% reliably.

this is the iphones fault
a simple program like this would never have been charged for
then the iphones damn app store comes along and every program wants money now :/

bedoig said:
Your name goes in Start-->Settings-->Personal (Tab)-->Owner Information
Owner name is a standard way of generating registration keys.
Also, I don't think we need a keygen for a $4.99 app. Eat one less Big Mac this week and support the developer. That said, has anyone gotten the accelerometer based scrolling to work? I've tried tapping, double-tapping, tapping and holding, double tapping and holding, etc on both the center (enter) button as well as on the Nav circle around the perimeter (the wording in the usage guide was somewhat vague) and nothing seems to work. Anybody got this to work? The other functions seem to be working OK, if not 100% reliably.
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i am not buying a app that doesn't work...

bedoig said:
That said, has anyone gotten the accelerometer based scrolling to work? I've tried tapping, double-tapping, tapping and holding, double tapping and holding, etc on both the center (enter) button as well as on the Nav circle around the perimeter (the wording in the usage guide was somewhat vague) and nothing seems to work. Anybody got this to work? The other functions seem to be working OK, if not 100% reliably.
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I got it to work no problems, just double tap the center button(don't depress it, just touch) and you'll feel a short vibration to let you know its enabled. Its pretty awesome to just put a slight angle on phone and be able to flip through photos, emails, music etc right from home screen without pushing buttons, just see them flipping through until you hold phone flat to stop. I really like the app launcher as well. A well spent 5 bucks.

rohithathie said:
going to try it!
now someone should make a keygen
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Well, I could decompile the program. But then again I could purchase the program for 5.00 and support the developers hard work.
I think ill purchase it. LIKE YOU SHOULD DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't really like the scroll feature as i use ftouchsl but I like having 4 extra buttons. so i might buy it also going to test it a little bit first

the 4 buttons does seem nice
one for start
one for file explorer and a surprise for the other 2 i guess

the app is well worth the 5 bucks.
been using it for a couple of days and already i love it

herg62123 said:
the app is well worth the 5 bucks.
been using it for a couple of days and already i love it
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is the tilt scrolling actually practical?
the instinct has it in the web browser and when i played with it it almost always felt easier to simply scroll on screen

lbhocky19 said:
is the tilt scrolling actually practical?
the instinct has it in the web browser and when i played with it it almost always felt easier to simply scroll on screen
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i don't use the tilt feature, i use the touch scroll feature
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lbhocky19 said:
is the tilt scrolling actually practical?
the instinct has it in the web browser and when i played with it it almost always felt easier to simply scroll on screen
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I don't think the tilt scrolling is good for using in apps either, but it is a neat feature for scrolling through media. And plus you can disable/enable it without opening options, so its easy to turn on/off. I find the touchpad easier for a lot of the scrolling than actually using touchscreen though.

showaco said:
I got it to work no problems, just double tap the center button(don't depress it, just touch) and you'll feel a short vibration to let you know its enabled. Its pretty awesome to just put a slight angle on phone and be able to flip through photos, emails, music etc right from home screen without pushing buttons, just see them flipping through until you hold phone flat to stop. I really like the app launcher as well. A well spent 5 bucks.
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I wonder if something I have installed is conflicting with GScroll, because the tilt scrolling absolutely, positively won't work for me. I'm not depressing the physical button, just touching the capacitive face, so unfortunately that's not the issue. The only thing I can think of that could be conflicting is the SmartTouch scroll wheel functionality, but that is built into everyone's ROM from the factory. I've added a few additional programs to use with SmartTouch (through Schaps Advanced Config), but since the base functionality is already built in I wouldn't think it would be an issue. Anybody else have trouble getting it to work?
Some of the programs features are a bit useless (like the swipe to send arrow keys...isn't it just easier to push the actual arrow key that your finger is right next to anyway?), but a lot of the features are great. The four extra mappable buttons are awesome to have for these phones. The swipe to scroll is also a bit easier than reaching up on the screen for a scroll bar. If only this stupid tilt scrolling would work. I probably wouldn't even use it that much, but now I have to get it working, lol. All in all, I'm glad I paid 5 bucks if for nothing else than the four extra mappable keys. Although I really thought someone at XDA would have already made a freeware release, 4.99 is such a reasonable price why not buy it.
[Edit: A reinstall of the program fixed my issues. Tilt scrolling is working, and I can now go on happily not using it ]

lbhocky19 said:
is the tilt scrolling actually practical?
the instinct has it in the web browser and when i played with it it almost always felt easier to simply scroll on screen
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Not really.. even if you tilt more it doesn't accelerate (as you would keep pressing a navigation key).
Some suggestions for the developer:
- tilt acceleration, if we tilt more the device the scrolling/navigation speed should accelerate
- an option to chose one of the following (for d-pad navigation):
tap & drag to a direction (eg: tap top, drag down => will keep scrolling/send navigation keep till I get my finger off from touch area. very useful when we need to scroll something large. the same as tilt acceleration suggestion, if we keep the finger on the touch area it will actually accelerate the scrolling, and not sending navigation key with pauses)
simple tap for scrolling/navigation. the touch area should be divided in 4 or 5 zones (one for click/enter key). if we keep the finger on the touch area it will keep scrolling/send navigation key)
- Gscroll is not compatible with all games (for eg: Tomb Raider)
BTW, tilt navigation works for me. Have to tap twice on the sensitive d-pad area (center circle). It vibrates when the tilt navigation is enable. Taping the capacitive area will disable the tilt navigation.
One bug found, touch shot doesn't work in Camera application if GScroll is active

Wow, now that I have the tilt scrolling working I actually really like it. I can see what others are saying about it not being particularly useful in long lists (file explorer, etc), but using the smart select mode in TF3D is AWESOME. Anybody that loved the teaser videos for schaps' TouchXperience ROMs will find that GScroll gives you a lot of those cool abilities to flick (tilt) your way through the entire TF3D menu. Flicking through songs, contacts, pictures, text messages, etc is really cool!
My main complaint now is just that the double-tap recognition is not 100% accurate. I think just holding the center button would be a better means of activating tilt scrolling. Then just release it when you want to stop. I wonder how hard that would be to change.
Has anyone contacted the developer? Has he/she been responsive?

RapidPoint - Virtual Mouse Driver

I am working on a virtual mouse driver for the capacitive touch panel for the Touch Pro/Diamond. It is based on the optical mouse included with the Samsung Epix and will be enabled/disabled via a gesture in the bottom panel. The right side of the panel will serve as the mouseregion and the left side will be used for right and left mouse buttons.
I wanted to guage interest and know who was interested in getting in on the beta. I am about a week out from releasing a beta of the driver and if you PM me your e-mail address I will give you updates and let you know when it becomes available.
Take care,
Chris Shepley
P.S. If any one has any additional feature ideas, I am willing to listen to them.

I'm interested in it

First off- Thank you i am so glad you are doing this as i have been waiting for some time
for someone to pick up this project. (ie. my lack of programming skills.)
But i do have some pointers...
You did say you were using the left and right panels for controls right?
Why not use the center button (like the Epix) to control the mouse, click
the center button for left click, and click and hold the center button for a right
click (same as tapping and holding the screen in some programs.
And to enable and disable the mouse cursor, do like you said with the touch
panel gestures.
Just my two cents.
Like i said before, thank you and goodluck on this project.

This would be great, my wife has the epix and thought that it was the coolest.

Sounds great but I would hope navigation is made from the left of the panel, with left click of the mouse with the center button... Hopefully the scroll function of the wheel can be retained for scrolling down pages and then using the other pieces of the pad for mousing.

It will be ambidextrous and user configurable as I am a lefty living in a righty world. I am going to try to retain the scroll, but I am not sure it will be possible as it senses a pretty wide band around the center button for scroll. In addition to allowing the user to configure which side is used for touch I am considering several different setups for buttons, but want to get the basic driver completed before digging too deeply into user settings. I do intend to rely heavily on the diamond/raphael community for testing once I reach beta. Right now it is still very basic, but maturing quickly.
I haven't decided if I am going to make it open source or not, but I am leaning toward doing so as I have been influenced by some of butler's code and a serial mouse driver for CE that Microsoft released the source to.
I am also using a hybrid of c++ and c# for the application, so .Net CF 3.5 will be required. If I get a lot of requests for a pure c++ version I may eventually consider it, but it s unlikely. People should have .Net CF 3.5 installed anyhow if they are power users.
I am also hoping that the completed product will be good enough to tempt some of the chefs of the more popular ROMs to include it as OEM software. I do have a background in commercial software development so I know the level of pollish will eventually get there but it may take a few revs before it is at that level.
Chris

Definately interested in this!

Sounds very thought out... Thanks for developing this as I find it almost a waste of capacitive tech hiding in the bottom of our screens.. Gscroll has some nice features (launch pads, side to side, up/down scrolling), but a virtual mouse would put it over the top if it has decent speed and scrolling built in (point, center click, cap scroll). If you can try to make the program compatible with Opera/IE, I would find that a big edge over whats out there today.

I was thinking about this earlier! Very interested! I was also thinking that the other side could be used to scroll. Like swiping up and down would scroll the page up and down (not the cursor). This would be really cool for opera.

Sounds like a great idea!

WOW! I am really interested in this, it sounds like a great idea!

how is it different from the GRemote?

This sounds like an interesting and fun idea. Good luck with it! Until I read through the thread, I hadn't realized the center scroll would still work -- wow.
@killerscene: Gremote has the PDA at as a mouse, while he means having a mouse on the PDA controlled by the capacitive sensor.

def very interested in this. Would be EXTREMELY useful.

cshepley said:
I am working on a virtual mouse driver for the capacitive touch panel for the Touch Pro/Diamond. It is based on the optical mouse included with the Samsung Epix and will be enabled/disabled via a gesture in the bottom panel. The right side of the panel will serve as the mouseregion and the left side will be used for right and left mouse buttons.
I wanted to guage interest and know who was interested in getting in on the beta. I am about a week out from releasing a beta of the driver and if you PM me your e-mail address I will give you updates and let you know when it becomes available.
Take care,
Chris Shepley
P.S. If any one has any additional feature ideas, I am willing to listen to them.
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That's great to hear that you are working on this idea. Actually, I have been working on it for more than a month but could not get it done quite right.
The major problem that I have encountered is that the sensitivity of movement on the left and right touch panel is low. It will make the mouse movement sluggish, and is extremely difficult to control small mouse movement.
I have discovered that, when mode 4 (that is the wheel mode) is enabled, then right after you give a rotate gesture on the wheel until the LED lit up, the left and right panel will become very responsive to the finger movement. This, however, holds only for some version of the htcnavi.dll. That means there must be some way to activiate the touch panels to higher sensitivity mode. I hacked it for a long time, but could not succeed. I tried polling the nav sensors, in a similar way like butler's method (essentially, butler call DeviceIOControl to read data, while I was calling HTCNavGetData instead), but polling at a higher frequency did not result in higher precision in sensing finger locations.
I hope that you will succeed eventually, and share with us how to increase the sensitivity in reading finger location.
Good luck.

That unfortunately is something i am running into too. I am trying to get around it through modifying acceleration values as you get closer to the edge so that it moves faster in the middle and slower aroundthe edges. I still don't have it working quite right, but I'm giving it a go.
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That's great to hear that you are working on this idea. Actually, I have been working on it for more than a month but could not get it done quite right.
The major problem that I have encountered is that the sensitivity of movement on the left and right touch panel is low. It will make the mouse movement sluggish, and is extremely difficult to control small mouse movement.
I have discovered that, when mode 4 (that is the wheel mode) is enabled, then right after you give a rotate gesture on the wheel until the LED lit up, the left and right panel will become very responsive to the finger movement. This, however, holds only for some version of the htcnavi.dll. That means there must be some way to activiate the touch panels to higher sensitivity mode. I hacked it for a long time, but could not succeed. I tried polling the nav sensors, in a similar way like butler's method (essentially, butler call DeviceIOControl to read data, while I was calling HTCNavGetData instead), but polling at a higher frequency did not result in higher precision in sensing finger locations.
I hope that you will succeed eventually, and share with us how to increase the sensitivity in reading finger location.
Good luck.
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I wrote this already in Butler thread...
I can imagine the left/right part(configurable for left-handed people) for mouse movement and act.button touch for emulation of tap/hold. Mouse mode can be enabled with starting a exefile or sliding finger down-up(bringup a mouse cursor) and disabled by sliding finger opposite of movement side up-down(shutdown mouse cursor). In landscape it should be fixed on left-side,90dgrs rotated,so you can have access for mouse cursor in ls mode.
What are you thinking about this guys?

There was a thread about this just the other day in one of the forums (Diamond, Raphael, or Developers section, idk).
Coming from a Samsung Epix, which has an optical sensor, it really makes navigating the OS a lot faster. You soon learn to use both the mouse with your thumb on one hand, and your index finger on the other hand to scroll flick, taps, etc. Basically you begin using both inputs simultaneously.
It really speeds things up.
It might mess with playing games using the default dpad, unless it was disabled prior. Perhaps include another mode which switches around the hotspots to form a virtual dpad. I think a winning solution would be to toggle the options between Mouse Mode, Virtual Dpad Mode, Normal Mode.
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GRemote uses the GSensor for navigation. We are talking about having an actual mouse cursor that is controlled by the touchpad.

If need be, I would be more than happy to test and help you in any way possible.

A marvelous idea, mate. If I may, I must ask you to consider employing the navi-button to simulate left click & double left click by applying light touches rather than full press; not only will it make using the mouse single-handedly possible, but will also leave one of the pad's sides entirely available for extra functions which you might be contemplating.
Otherwise, I'm excited that you're taking this up... best of luck
Regards...