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TouchFlo Cube on Kaiser (well sort of!)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326523&highlight=touch.dll+cube
Post 11 has a 'this cab' hyperlink
I installed it and followed the instructions, and now have the cube by hardware button but can't make it spin with my finger (aaargh!).
I am off to a wedding so can't play more for a few days.
Is there more to it? I would have thought the Kaiser had the correct type of touchscreen to do this, since we have the scroll TouchFlo, which is ironically what's missing here!!
Cheers,
Joe

Just giving this a bump. Is nobody into the cube interface like the Elf (HTC Touch) has?
This, imho, is the app that makes the kaiser the iphone killer for sexiness !
Cheers,
Joe

The "touch ability" of the TyTN II's screen is not as sensitive as the HTC Touch. The touchability is not very good. If you try using your finger to scroll down a web page you will find that you have to apply quite a bit of pressure. Pushing the screen is decent, but finger motion tracking is very poor.

w4rmk said:
The "touch ability" of the TyTN II's screen is not as sensitive as the HTC Touch. The touchability is not very good. If you try using your finger to scroll down a web page you will find that you have to apply quite a bit of pressure. Pushing the screen is decent, but finger motion tracking is very poor.
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If the hardware is there I really expect cookers here to fix the software response at some point when the Kaiser is more widely available.

While it looks cool to spin the cube by sliding the finger across the screen, wouldn't it be more direct and quick to just hit the D-Pad to spin the cube? After all the TouchCube is there to provide quick access to functions you need most, I found it amusing at watching some reviewer's videos how they have to do a few times to get the cube spin properly. If that is sexy, I have to say it doesn't last

Hi
While it looks cool to spin the cube by sliding the finger across the screen, wouldn't it be more direct and quick to just hit the D-Pad to spin the cube? After all the TouchCube is there to provide quick access to functions you need most, I found it amusing at watching some reviewer's videos how they have to do a few times to get the cube spin properly. If that is sexy, I have to say it doesn't last
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I agree completely, and who wants to smudge over their TFT screen with finger tips anyway, it's not sexy having a TFT screen covered in dirty finger marks and smudges, not in my book anyway
Regards
Phil

My wife has a iphone, and i hacked it with this really cool menu function where you start your fingerin the corner of the phone from any screen and it pops up a rainbow of icons from which you can scroll right and left to highlight the one you want o activate. It is Super Awesome. The "current' icon your selecting shows up in upper left corner - This screen shot, is jumbled because they are doing it on the main menu page, but you can get this rainbow menu from any application
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Also playing with her phone and using the screen commands with fingers you fall quickly in love. It really is light years beyond the traditional, very minority report. its super easy.
If it did 3g, i'd be super tempted to get an iphone, the keyboard is still a deal breaker, but the rest of it is almost that cool.
check out this video
http://creationsnet.blip.tv/file/362441/

Just a quick reply to the original post - I installed this on my Kaiser today and it works fine. No performance issues so far (as opposed to what Hermes users are reporting). As to the folks (bchau, philipl) who want to use the D-Pad to move thru the cube, the D-Pad is working just fine for me.
Customization of the cube contents is easier done thru manipulation of the text files directly, rather than using the editor that's in the main web page.
Pretty neat.
M

Yes I have it working, although on reboot I have experienced the black screen hang reported on that thread.
When you say it's working fine, are you able to spin the cube with your finger on the screen, or is it via the hardware button / D pad.
As an fyi, the D pad doesn't spin it for me, I had to use the button.
Cheers,
Joe

I can spin the cube with my finger and with the d-pad both. Starting the cube with the first touch is hard, but rotating the cube is much easier w/fingers.
Now I have to work on getting the icons to match the apps.

I had the Touch, now I don't. Personally I think the cube is redundant and mostly for show. This is just my opinion.
The best features of the Touch were the touch scrolling in contacts, on the internet and elsewhere.

Could you please tell me how did you do that ???
mlekas said:
I can spin the cube with my finger and with the d-pad both. Starting the cube with the first touch is hard, but rotating the cube is much easier w/fingers.
Now I have to work on getting the icons to match the apps.
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Could you please tell me how did you do that ?

You mean how I got to be able to spin the cube with my finger and d-pad? I just tried it and it worked.
If you mean the icons, I had to do a bunch of renaming of files and could only have as many apps as there were in the demo. I'm sure there's a better way to do this.
Other than eye candy the cube isn't all that useful.

mlekas said:
You mean how I got to be able to spin the cube with my finger and d-pad? I just tried it and it worked.
If you mean the icons, I had to do a bunch of renaming of files and could only have as many apps as there were in the demo. I'm sure there's a better way to do this.
Other than eye candy the cube isn't all that useful.
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sorry to bother you with that but would you be able to tell me step by step what you did assuming you started with the original rom ?
also do you have to follow some procedure to activate it each time you soft reset the device ?

iPhone
I love the way the post was treated with contempt.

Well the iphone post was informative but strictly speaking off topic as the idea is to get touchflo cube working for all of us Kaiser users.
But I know what you mean ;-)
mlekas can you give a step by step on how you installed it as I am on original ROMs but after following the instructions in the first post I made on this topic, I definitely can't get any spin working except by the hardware button.
There's got to be something I have done wrong !
Cheers,
Joe

mlekas said:
Just a quick reply to the original post - I installed this on my Kaiser today and it works fine. No performance issues so far (as opposed to what Hermes users are reporting). As to the folks (bchau, philipl) who want to use the D-Pad to move thru the cube, the D-Pad is working just fine for me.
Customization of the cube contents is easier done thru manipulation of the text files directly, rather than using the editor that's in the main web page.
Pretty neat.
M
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i still haven't had any luck installing this. i tried about 10 times and gave up. tried every different installing solution i came across. anyone else not been able to get this working?

quick update. i decided to try the install on a fresh system so i did a hard rest and reinstalled the app. the first time around i actually saw the cube and was able to activate it through the hardware button. the only way i was able to move the cube around was from the same hardware button. after a soft rest i got the black screen. i did another hard rest and this time no luck. after 3 more hard resets and no luck i gave up. i guess someone with some skills could get the cube working properly. if anyone else had any better success please let me know.

Got it working but not with D-PAD...
flexte said:
...if anyone else had any better success please let me know.
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I got the CUBE to work via hardware button only. I didn't need to do a soft reset but it wouldn't work until I removed all the Today Plugins I had installed (SPB Shell, Weather, Diary, etc.). When I install any of those back, I get a black screen. Without them, the CUBE works fine..even after soft resets.
TEC

strange.. i had it working after a hard reset once but after that i got a black screen , and that was with nothing else installed. must have been an old registry setting that never changed after the hard reset that is giving me the black screen.

[REF]Capacitive touchpad apps

Since there IS a topic about using the G-sensor, I guess it is a good idea to come up with a thread about using the capacative touchpad of the diamond.
Since the test-tools were out, we saw that the left and right part of the centre-button is a multi-touch enabled touchpad.
It could be used in so many ways, for gestures, extra 'hardware' keys, etc. That's the reason for this topic.

Hey, I reverse engineered the Nav wheel. It may be multitouch, but the raw data I get back from the Diamond does not indicate that it is. The only data I was able to retrieve is rotations per second. I also have not figured out how to reverse engineer the center button.

Koush said:
Hey, I reverse engineered the Nav wheel. It may be multitouch, but the raw data I get back from the Diamond does not indicate that it is. The only data I was able to retrieve is rotations per second. I also have not figured out how to reverse engineer the center button.
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Maybe you have already seen it .. but check out the 'NavDbgTool.exe' here...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_Testing_Tool

Riel said:
Since there IS a topic about using the G-sensor, I guess it is a good idea to come up with a thread about using the capacative touchpad of the diamond.
Since the test-tools were out, we saw that the left and right part of the centre-button is a multi-touch enabled touchpad.
It could be used in so many ways, for gestures, extra 'hardware' keys, etc. That's the reason for this topic.
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Good idea ! I was thinking about starting such topic..
What about a unlocker ? If you slide your finger from Home key to the Answer key and at the same time you slide your other finger from the Back key to the Don't Answer key ? Could be nice.. just an idea!

What I have seen, that is quite hard, since above and below the nav-pad is no touch-pad. It sees it as 'nav-pad action' then.
I thought of navigating in another way.
What multitouch-applications do there exist, and are any of them usable for the limited space we have besides the nav-wheel?
It DOES give 4 extra 'hardware' keys. Even key-combinations can be made
Maybe some genious will find a slick way of text-inputting via the 2 pads !

Just give it a small kick upwards

Dont let this topic die?

I was just looking at this for a bit, think I get some clues about how to get the data. I have a time-problem, though Will probably be a while before I pick it up again.
However, I think I saw Schaps mention he is using it in his new touchxperience UI, that'd mean he knows how to do it. Why not just ask him?

I can see one use already. Capacitive sensors are more responsive than resistive screens, so it would be cool to use this in place of touching the screen to scroll through touchflo3d tabs.
Surur

Does any one know if this is implemented in the touch pro? and if so, in what way? Maybe we will inherit whatever the pro has to offer in this regard.

YESSSS!
This is awsome!
Did you guyzz see the vid vid?
Unlocking the Diamond with no Hard button touch at alll?.
Cheers fellasss

Nice, looking forward to a nice task manager and launcher mouse pad thing in the future!

A mouse like on the Samsung Omnia would be a good idea.
Surur

Not really multitouch
OK, I've download the NavDBG tool and played with it... strictly speaking this isn't multitouch, or not multitouch in the way that the apple looks at it. It's single touch but split into 3 areas. Basically imagine the button area at the bottom of the diamond is split into 3 columns.
You have 3 single touch areas:
1) On the left with the home and dial buttons
2) In the middle tracking outside the circle or also detecting a touch (not a button press) inside the circle. If you finger touches both outside and inside the circle, outside the circle takes precedence
3) On the right with the back and hangup buttons.
The multitouch impression comes from the fact that all 3 of these single touch areas can be used simultaneously.
This doesn't in my opinion open up brilliant options in terms of pinch to shrink spread to enlarge ala apple, but it does mean that a device fairly limited in terms of buttons could get a lot of good enhancements to useability.
My biggest annoyance with the device is when you are trying to gesture in TF3D or in an app (eg scrolling in opera) and it decides you've tapped mid gesture and follows a link etc, using the louch sensitive lower areas for gestures would eliminate this problem and make for a much better user experience (in my opinion).
Also, for games, the potential to use the touch sensitive lower area for a range of game controls would be great.
So all good stuff, but not strictly speaking multitouch.
edit: Additionally it seems to only see a narrow horizontal band in the middle (wheel) section. Interestingly it seems to register about 1cm on each side of the wheel and inside the button, it seems to infer rotation around the wheel based on the finger movements as it crosses these areas.

space123monkey said:
This doesn't in my opinion open up brilliant options in terms of pinch to shrink spread to enlarge ala apple
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Seeing how small the pad area it, this would still work, just with fingers on different sensitive areas. If fact, this sounds like a perfect first implementation - zooming in Opera Mobile (although a bit senseless since the scroll wheel works with one hand while pinching will need two).
Surur

i think the biggest advantage of this revelation will the benefit of some new added buttons. I can think of a few uses for them too.
left/right touch to
move fwd/back through tabs in opera
skip fwd/back tracks in music player
pounding the hell out of when playing daily thompsons decathalon (if anyone remembers that great 80's game)

I remember reading somewhere that someone is preparing a SDK for this. I think it's very important since we have almost no programmable keys. This can be used as extra keys. Any news on this front?

aydc said:
I remember reading somewhere that someone is preparing a SDK for this. I think it's very important since we have almost no programmable keys. This can be used as extra keys. Any news on this front?
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I would love to see this!
My full on support.

I was thinking of using the touchpanels for a mousepointer control!
I know, when browsing opera, my fingers are too fat to click small links.
Must keep zooming.
I wonder if it was possible to pop up a mouse cursor, and move it with one small touch-panel. The other panel for left and rightclicks.
I have held my diamond with that idea, and I think it is very useful and finger-friendly!

CapacitiveFingerLock
I did make a Proof of Concept of CapacativeFingerLock. This one gives another possibility of locking/unlocking the Touch Diamond or Touch Pro.

Gscroll - navigate & scroll via accelerometer & touch pad!

A new application has been released.
GScroll - you can scroll/navigate using the accelerometer and/or capacitive touch pad zones.
demo (limited to 5 minutes) avaiable at http://www.mobilesrc.com/GScroll.aspx

going to try it!

it's good to have a try... someone should re-write a free version

That's a quick way to have the thread shutdown .. that sort of comment is frowned upon around here in a major way!
rohithathie said:
going to try it!
now someone should make a keygen
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man, y'all are cheap! lol, its only 4.99 but has some other nice features as well, like double tapping touch area at bottom for launching apps I'm downloading now, anyone try it yet?

Nice App
Hey I paid For the App but i can't put my owner name in the Space it won't let me So i posted a Thread on The Fourm for GScroll So i will update you Guys on how it is When i get it Working....

nucentury08 said:
Hey I paid For the App but i can't put my owner name in the Space it won't let me So i posted a Thread on The Fourm for GScroll So i will update you Guys on how it is When i get it Working....
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Your name goes in Start-->Settings-->Personal (Tab)-->Owner Information
Owner name is a standard way of generating registration keys.
Also, I don't think we need a keygen for a $4.99 app. Eat one less Big Mac this week and support the developer. That said, has anyone gotten the accelerometer based scrolling to work? I've tried tapping, double-tapping, tapping and holding, double tapping and holding, etc on both the center (enter) button as well as on the Nav circle around the perimeter (the wording in the usage guide was somewhat vague) and nothing seems to work. Anybody got this to work? The other functions seem to be working OK, if not 100% reliably.

this is the iphones fault
a simple program like this would never have been charged for
then the iphones damn app store comes along and every program wants money now :/

bedoig said:
Your name goes in Start-->Settings-->Personal (Tab)-->Owner Information
Owner name is a standard way of generating registration keys.
Also, I don't think we need a keygen for a $4.99 app. Eat one less Big Mac this week and support the developer. That said, has anyone gotten the accelerometer based scrolling to work? I've tried tapping, double-tapping, tapping and holding, double tapping and holding, etc on both the center (enter) button as well as on the Nav circle around the perimeter (the wording in the usage guide was somewhat vague) and nothing seems to work. Anybody got this to work? The other functions seem to be working OK, if not 100% reliably.
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i am not buying a app that doesn't work...

bedoig said:
That said, has anyone gotten the accelerometer based scrolling to work? I've tried tapping, double-tapping, tapping and holding, double tapping and holding, etc on both the center (enter) button as well as on the Nav circle around the perimeter (the wording in the usage guide was somewhat vague) and nothing seems to work. Anybody got this to work? The other functions seem to be working OK, if not 100% reliably.
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I got it to work no problems, just double tap the center button(don't depress it, just touch) and you'll feel a short vibration to let you know its enabled. Its pretty awesome to just put a slight angle on phone and be able to flip through photos, emails, music etc right from home screen without pushing buttons, just see them flipping through until you hold phone flat to stop. I really like the app launcher as well. A well spent 5 bucks.

rohithathie said:
going to try it!
now someone should make a keygen
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Well, I could decompile the program. But then again I could purchase the program for 5.00 and support the developers hard work.
I think ill purchase it. LIKE YOU SHOULD DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't really like the scroll feature as i use ftouchsl but I like having 4 extra buttons. so i might buy it also going to test it a little bit first

the 4 buttons does seem nice
one for start
one for file explorer and a surprise for the other 2 i guess

the app is well worth the 5 bucks.
been using it for a couple of days and already i love it

herg62123 said:
the app is well worth the 5 bucks.
been using it for a couple of days and already i love it
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is the tilt scrolling actually practical?
the instinct has it in the web browser and when i played with it it almost always felt easier to simply scroll on screen

lbhocky19 said:
is the tilt scrolling actually practical?
the instinct has it in the web browser and when i played with it it almost always felt easier to simply scroll on screen
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i don't use the tilt feature, i use the touch scroll feature
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lbhocky19 said:
is the tilt scrolling actually practical?
the instinct has it in the web browser and when i played with it it almost always felt easier to simply scroll on screen
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I don't think the tilt scrolling is good for using in apps either, but it is a neat feature for scrolling through media. And plus you can disable/enable it without opening options, so its easy to turn on/off. I find the touchpad easier for a lot of the scrolling than actually using touchscreen though.

showaco said:
I got it to work no problems, just double tap the center button(don't depress it, just touch) and you'll feel a short vibration to let you know its enabled. Its pretty awesome to just put a slight angle on phone and be able to flip through photos, emails, music etc right from home screen without pushing buttons, just see them flipping through until you hold phone flat to stop. I really like the app launcher as well. A well spent 5 bucks.
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I wonder if something I have installed is conflicting with GScroll, because the tilt scrolling absolutely, positively won't work for me. I'm not depressing the physical button, just touching the capacitive face, so unfortunately that's not the issue. The only thing I can think of that could be conflicting is the SmartTouch scroll wheel functionality, but that is built into everyone's ROM from the factory. I've added a few additional programs to use with SmartTouch (through Schaps Advanced Config), but since the base functionality is already built in I wouldn't think it would be an issue. Anybody else have trouble getting it to work?
Some of the programs features are a bit useless (like the swipe to send arrow keys...isn't it just easier to push the actual arrow key that your finger is right next to anyway?), but a lot of the features are great. The four extra mappable buttons are awesome to have for these phones. The swipe to scroll is also a bit easier than reaching up on the screen for a scroll bar. If only this stupid tilt scrolling would work. I probably wouldn't even use it that much, but now I have to get it working, lol. All in all, I'm glad I paid 5 bucks if for nothing else than the four extra mappable keys. Although I really thought someone at XDA would have already made a freeware release, 4.99 is such a reasonable price why not buy it.
[Edit: A reinstall of the program fixed my issues. Tilt scrolling is working, and I can now go on happily not using it ]

lbhocky19 said:
is the tilt scrolling actually practical?
the instinct has it in the web browser and when i played with it it almost always felt easier to simply scroll on screen
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Not really.. even if you tilt more it doesn't accelerate (as you would keep pressing a navigation key).
Some suggestions for the developer:
- tilt acceleration, if we tilt more the device the scrolling/navigation speed should accelerate
- an option to chose one of the following (for d-pad navigation):
tap & drag to a direction (eg: tap top, drag down => will keep scrolling/send navigation keep till I get my finger off from touch area. very useful when we need to scroll something large. the same as tilt acceleration suggestion, if we keep the finger on the touch area it will actually accelerate the scrolling, and not sending navigation key with pauses)
simple tap for scrolling/navigation. the touch area should be divided in 4 or 5 zones (one for click/enter key). if we keep the finger on the touch area it will keep scrolling/send navigation key)
- Gscroll is not compatible with all games (for eg: Tomb Raider)
BTW, tilt navigation works for me. Have to tap twice on the sensitive d-pad area (center circle). It vibrates when the tilt navigation is enable. Taping the capacitive area will disable the tilt navigation.
One bug found, touch shot doesn't work in Camera application if GScroll is active

Wow, now that I have the tilt scrolling working I actually really like it. I can see what others are saying about it not being particularly useful in long lists (file explorer, etc), but using the smart select mode in TF3D is AWESOME. Anybody that loved the teaser videos for schaps' TouchXperience ROMs will find that GScroll gives you a lot of those cool abilities to flick (tilt) your way through the entire TF3D menu. Flicking through songs, contacts, pictures, text messages, etc is really cool!
My main complaint now is just that the double-tap recognition is not 100% accurate. I think just holding the center button would be a better means of activating tilt scrolling. Then just release it when you want to stop. I wonder how hard that would be to change.
Has anyone contacted the developer? Has he/she been responsive?

Mouse arrow type software on my Fuze

So I down loaded this:
http://www.innovisoft.com/virtuamouse/
Free trial, seems to work as stated. it gives you a mouse pointer that the direction keys control. But I got to thinking that the fuze has a touch sensitive control pad since Gscroll works with it. If one could get them both to work together (including double tap to open) you would have a regular laptop type touch pad control of the phone then. And control it one handed to do almost everything.
Is there a way to get Gscroll to work with this?

Looks good but there are two issues for Fuze users... #1, our directional pad is too low/flat for easy side to side scrolling. #2, the price for this program + Gscroll would be over $30.. lil steep for a virtual mouse.

Maybe someone thats handy at programming would take an interest in it. Doesnt look like much codewise, as both programs (mouse pointer and gscroll) are tiny bytewise. I wouldnt care if you had to swipe 2-3 times on the small Fuze touch pad to move the pointer across the device screen. At least you could do 99% of the control of your device one handed with a thumb then. Right now I have the mouse pointer set to my end call long key press to activate/deactivate it, and using the dpad buttons is a pain, along with having to press the center button as "click". Double tap and swipe on either side of the center button would be easy to control it.

I think,that it can be very useful with adjustable sensitivity. In comparison with Omnia/i780 touchpad,Raphael's space is much more bigger,so it couldn't be a problem. I am interesting too for kind tool.

I 've tried to make it work with Gscroll, but I had no luck...
Not only that, but it disables the gscroll functions...

yzf750 said:
Maybe someone thats handy at programming would take an interest in it. Doesnt look like much codewise, as both programs (mouse pointer and gscroll) are tiny bytewise. I wouldnt care if you had to swipe 2-3 times on the small Fuze touch pad to move the pointer across the device screen. At least you could do 99% of the control of your device one handed with a thumb then. Right now I have the mouse pointer set to my end call long key press to activate/deactivate it, and using the dpad buttons is a pain, along with having to press the center button as "click". Double tap and swipe on either side of the center button would be easy to control it.
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How did you managed to change the functions of the Long Press End key, could you help me with that, please?

Tool: Using Capacitive Area to Define button press action

Hey XDAyers, was wondering if somebody would be kind enough to develop this useful tool.
Purpose:
Making the left and right navigation buttons easier, actually usable, since now they are currently useless due to impractical key pressing.
How:
The tool would actually disable all kinds of hardware response, and whatever physical button is pressed the action is defined by the program. Using both the physical button press in addition to your finger location on the capacitive area to define the action to be taken.
In other words, all the buttons that get pressed are useless/actionless without the capacitive area actually saying the coordinates of your finger. With that, if i press the capacitive area anywhere, even the home button while my finger was anywhere except the absolute top absolute left corner, the action would be left! Check the photos below to have a better picture of what i mean.
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Reserved for future use.
No replies? only poll clicking? Come on people, this could be the best thing to ever happen for the touch pro, we finally use left and right buttons. Start talking, give me your ideas, and please inform the Devs. you know about this, maybe one of them would actually implement it.

There's already something like this, it's called gscroll. However, it costs $9.

Scalage said:
There's already something like this, it's called gscroll. However, it costs $9.
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I own gscroll mate, but no its nothing like what am describing above
Gscroll does not use the physical buttons at all, its all about the capacitive area and so on. What am suggesting is using the hardware buttons for TAKE ACTION and the Action is defined on where your finger was on the capacitive area
BTW, about gscroll, do you know how can i disable the programs launcher so as to use the directions only?
The programs launcher is annoying and pops up a lot when all i want is to scroll/up down left right
Cheers

I agree with you in that this would be a very good tweak, since learning the supposed "sweet spot" for left/right keys is quite impractical while using the corners is much more intuitive...
I can only hope this gets developed!
Best regards and thanks!

yup
I love the idea. Both Gscroll and Sensor scroll have attmpted to make this work using only the capacitive area. Your method relies on the hardware buttons as well. I really hope someone can make this work.
For most uses of the phone I can make-do with it, but gaming is awful! Also, neither of the programs work with all games. Morphgear and some other older games I have dont read any input from the capacitive area. However, they do read the hard keys, making this a "possible" solution.
Unfortunately, my optimism for being able to ever do some serious gaming on this phone has faded. I wish I still had my Tilt

JM33 said:
I love the idea. Both Gscroll and Sensor scroll have attmpted to make this work using only the capacitive area. Your method relies on the hardware buttons as well. I really hope someone can make this work.
For most uses of the phone I can make-do with it, but gaming is awful! Also, neither of the programs work with all games. Morphgear and some other older games I have dont read any input from the capacitive area. However, they do read the hard keys, making this a "possible" solution.
Unfortunately, my optimism for being able to ever do some serious gaming on this phone has faded. I wish I still had my Tilt
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Why do you say so bro, i have the exact same feeling like you towards both programs, but am still optimistic about gaming on ma touch pro, if the tool above gets programmed, somehow, i believe it WILL solve all our problems
But who's the dev who can do this? Cannot find him yet! if only a dev can give me the commends or classes that talk to the capacitive are and hardware button, i would develop the tool myself, but i need a looot of work in the beginning

Well, well, well, you have renewed my wishy-washy hope again my friend!
But consider this - I guess I say this because of my current setup to make morphgear as usable as possible. I am running dred sensor, and set the home/call keys to left. This means that if i press any of the left/home/call it should press left. But it just does not respond as well as it needs to.
Don't worry though, I will keep the faith. And if you get it to work, you better have a donate button ready!
Thanks, and best of luck!

JM33 said:
Well, well, well, you have renewed my wishy-washy hope again my friend!
But consider this - I guess I say this because of my current setup to make morphgear as usable as possible. I am running dred sensor, and set the home/call keys to left. This means that if i press any of the left/home/call it should press left. But it just does not respond as well as it needs to.
Don't worry though, I will keep the faith. And if you get it to work, you better have a donate button ready!
Thanks, and best of luck!
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Thanks bro Wish you can tel me how to do the donate button, or it is simply a link to a paypal account somehow. Anyways, once i get it done, one way or another, as for the above way (dred) sensor, never tried it, but from what i understand, it disables the home and back keys, both keys are actually useful, so nope.
Hope the tool above gets developed by me or sm1 else, coz i believe it should work. Cheers mate

actually, with dredsensor it not only disables the buttons, but allows them to be set to any action, i.e. right or left. So I am having a hard time seeing that your method will make much difference. I think the root of the problem is where the hard keys are located. Referring to the "sweet spot" you will notice that the left and right buttons are quite wider than up/down. This makes it difficult to get diagonal button presses, because of the circle in the center of the pad is what you feel, and the buttons are inequally spaced.
Anyways, I hope you can make it work. Thanks again bro!

JM33 said:
actually, with dredsensor it not only disables the buttons, but allows them to be set to any action, i.e. right or left. So I am having a hard time seeing that your method will make much difference. I think the root of the problem is where the hard keys are located. Referring to the "sweet spot" you will notice that the left and right buttons are quite wider than up/down. This makes it difficult to get diagonal button presses, because of the circle in the center of the pad is what you feel, and the buttons are inequally spaced.
Anyways, I hope you can make it work. Thanks again bro!
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Well, the difference between dred and this imaginary tool hehe, is that dred actually changes the action key of the home button completely, in my proposed idea, you can still have a home back left and right dial and hangup buttons, depending on where your finger is located on the capacitive area, and all physical buttons are set to the action "Click"
Wish it works

i think it would be awesome to take this a step further and have it run in Opera like a trackpad. Maybe use the capacitive are as a mouse and have a click on the center hardware key make a selection. Kind of like the web browser in the Blackberry Storm

jrodizzkool01 said:
i think it would be awesome to take this a step further and have it run in Opera like a trackpad. Maybe use the capacitive are as a mouse and have a click on the center hardware key make a selection. Kind of like the web browser in the Blackberry Storm
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but we use our fingers/stylus to click/tap :S

amnya said:
BTW, about gscroll, do you know how can i disable the programs launcher so as to use the directions only?
The programs launcher is annoying and pops up a lot when all i want is to scroll/up down left right
Cheers
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I believe this should work
Start / Settings/ Mobile Src GScroll
Go to the launch tab, and delete all the apps listed.

ajmoncrief said:
I believe this should work
Start / Settings/ Mobile Src GScroll
Go to the launch tab, and delete/reassign anything that says ::appswitch
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http://www.mobilesrc.com/forums/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3
This issue is being dealt with on the forum, a new beta has been released with per process app launch.
Let's try not to hijack this thread, since gscroll has its own threads, and own forum. Thanks.

JM33 said:
http://www.mobilesrc.com/forums/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=3
This issue is being dealt with on the forum, a new beta has been released with per process app launch.
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Your reply forced me to go back and read what was asked...so I must edit my original reply to say delete EVERYTHING under the launcher...not just the appswitch.
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Let's try not to hijack this thread, since gscroll has its own threads, and own forum. Thanks.
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While I would agree with this, I'm pretty sure that my reply doesn't qualify as thread hijacking when the OP is the one who originally posted the question.

ajmoncrief said:
Your reply forced me to go back and read what was asked...so I must edit my original reply to say delete EVERYTHING under the launcher...not just the appswitch.
While I would agree with this, I'm pretty sure that my reply doesn't qualify as thread hijacking when the OP is the one who originally posted the question.
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Thanx for your reply guys, actually i thank you both for your replies and no i don't find it hijacking. I thank you both for every post you did here I just hope i either find someone to develop the tool am talking about OR i manage somehow to find the resources i need to build it myself
Cheers mates

if anyone experienced with customizing the tp can tell me the tools i would need to do this i might be able to start writing a program. ive made computer appps before so im sure i can figure out ppc