I am about to get an Orange network branded Kaiser phone, does anyone know if this is identical in function to the unlocked HTC version ie:- wifi, GPS, not crippled, and secondly is it easy to re-flash the rom to get rid of the Orange branding or is this difficult and could easily cause a malfunction and lock the device.
Thanks
1) wifi and GPS all work fine.
2) The Orange homescreen is deselectable on Today settings, Item tab. You can then install the HTChome if you download it from here.
3) If you really want to flash the HTC rom (or a cooked one from here), I think its easy...but I havent bothered. Other than the colour scheme on the dialler page, its fine.
I have an orange branded kaiser, tomtom is not on it nor is wlm from stock, within an hr I had flashed the htc rom, giving me wlm etc and then installed tomtom from the thread in this forum and installed the maps etc from my other copy.
easy enough to do if you follow the instructions on this forum.
How you managed to get one? Retentions?
Mine was from O retail (as I couldnt talk to retentions til next month)
Thanks for all the info,
The company I work for has 6 mobile phones and we were contacted by Orange about an upgrade so I asked if we could upgrade to the Kaiser and they said yes no problem and no charge for the upgrade.
They are very keen on retaining business accounts at present. Make sure you get free calls between the six of you and a worthwhile data package.
AvengerPenguin,
Sorry to be a pain but I have never flashed a rom before and don't want to mess up can you reply with the link to the standard HTC rom and any simple instructions and also a link to the TomTom software as I have the maps I can use that I purchased for my old Artemis.
Thanks
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Hi everyone
I am new here and this is my first post, so please go easy on me.
I wanted to start by congratulating all the contributors on this forum on a great job done.
I’ve just ordered an SPV M700 on Orange and have a couple of questions
1- I need to unlock the phone to be able to use an O2 Sim card in it.
2- I want to be able to use The GPS in the phone.
To use the O2 SIM do I just need to do a SIM unlock, or do I have to do a CID unlock to? Err what is CID in the first place
My understanding is that the Orange ROM has the GPS enabled, am I correct? If so, all I have to do is install software like Tomtom Navigator and all should work, right?
As you can see, I am not that technical and do not want to mess the phone up by venturing into un-chartered territories.
Thank you for any help
1, yes you just need a SIM unlock. You will find the necessary tools on this forum to do this.
2, it seems that the current batch of Orange phones are shipping with the gps enabled rom, so yes just install tomtom.
I think CID stands for country ID (or something like that), you only need to unlock this if you intend to install firmware from another country e.g. the gps enabled Depod firmware. Providing your orange supplied phone has their most recent firmware you won't have to worry about this.
I've just found out what orange are doing. ONLY their Business phones have it enabled.
So if you order the phone on a personal account you don't get the GPS enabled.
However if you order it on a business account you can have it.
The third option is to learn French and flash the publicly available french rom to it.
(That's assuming you want it to be supported by orange themselves)
Else use one of the cooked roms and you're sorted.
EDIT: I've just got off the phone to Orange. The third option above would still be covered by insurance. Though if anything goes wrong it would have to be listed as a technical fault and go back to their free post address.
no, you are wrong, i am personal account, the rom is gps enabled
You flashed it to enable it. The GPS ROM is there but with one of the earlier firmware versions which doesn't enable it. (I got my information directly from Orange. If you were lucky enough to get a business phone sent out to you then I'm extremely jealous (and ask you again to upload your firmware ) but after about 40 mins of bouncing me around centers and giving me lame excuses or saying they were the wrong department I finally got a straight answer out of 2 seperate departments saying this was indeed the case)
If you look on the Orange site:
Business:
http://www.business.orange.co.uk/se...s&c=OUKDevice&cid=1044134008063&extarg1=Phone
It can deliver you directly to your meetings, thanks to it's built-in GPS with Sat Nav from Orange.
Personal:
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/show/handset/orange_spv_m700/features
No mention of any GPS is listed.
I know the GPS is there and functions as I've used a cooked ROM to enable it.
Plus as has been pointed out you can freely get the Orange France version of the firmware which has GPS enabled.
no no no, i didn't flash it before enable it, i can use the gps with tomtom 6 when i first got the phone, i need to flash it because i need to make it sim unlock..( i got it on 28/02/07, from the orange shop)
and even the manual with my spv m700, it also mention about the gps.
siupiu said:
no no no, i didn't flash it before enable it, i can use the gps with tomtom 6 when i first got the phone, i need to flash it because i need to make it sim unlock..( i got it on 28/02/07, from the orange shop)
and even the manual with my spv m700, it also mention about the gps.
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This is good News
I will get mine tomorrow - hopefully
Alas, I need to use an O2 Sim card though, so I must go down the SIM unlock route. I am in a dilemma between
1- Using the Prof's unlocking solution here
or
2- Paying up the $38 for peace of mind here here
Forget about solution 2
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Forget about solution 2
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I second that
the-oneil said:
This is good News
I will get mine tomorrow - hopefully
Alas, I need to use an O2 Sim card though, so I must go down the SIM unlock route. I am in a dilemma between
1- Using the Prof's unlocking solution here
or
2- Paying up the $38 for peace of mind here here
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you may to have a look of this post?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296327
SPV M700
Just to let you all know:
I just spoke to Orange about upgrading my M600 to M700. Vry nice lady ( after three atempts) has confirmed that M700 has GPS receiver built in. It would not show anywhere on Comms but it is selectable once you install SatNav software and it is on COM9.
So I think that anewers the original question.
Happ Navigating
Got my SPV M700 from Orange yesterday.
I went into the favorit > Sat Nav & downloaded Orange's Sat Nav program (It woked a treat - No ROM flashing or anything ) It actually guided me back home.
So yes, Orange UK ROM is 100% GPS enabled.
the-oneil not all are coming with GPS enabled. I know as I've seen 2 so far which came without the GPS working. Must depend on the batch they send out.
i think that depends on which rom version, that one with the following version must have GPS..
Operator version : 19.123.1.615
ROM version: 1.23.61.5
Rom date : 01/25/07
Radio version : 1.30.00.01
Protocol version: 32.63.7020.08H
I didn`t have to enable GPS on my M700. I installed a sat nav system ( Navigon MN6) and it connected by itself. I have a black M700 but on a personal account. The black ones were originally only reserved for new business accounts. Don`t know if that is significant.
I have now just installed Route 66 Navigate 7 in place of Navigon but it can`t seem to connect to the GPS receiver. Anyone help with that? I can only find one way to access the GPS seetings, in Systems/connections/GPRS Settings, and the only option is to change from PAP Authentication to CHAP Authentication. I don`t know what the difference between them is ( I`m not a techie!!) but it makes no difference anyway.
Any advice would be appreciated
Don't confuse GPS (Global Positioning by Satellite) with GPRS (General Packet Radio Service). If you mess with the GPRS settings, you may stop your phone from being able to use mobile data.
The M700 doesn't come with the GPS control panel visible, and generally speaking you don't need it to. Windows Mobile 5 comes with a software patch which distributes a GPS signal to any application requiring it, but some GPS applications can't work with this. I presume Route 66 may be one of them (as is TomTom).
Go to your Route 66 settings, and in the GPS setting options, set COM port to COM9 and Baud rate to 57600, which are the default hardware settings for the M700.
Now go to somewhere with a clear view of the sky for about 10 minutes, to allow the program to download all the necessary satellite information.
the-oneil,
I did the same as you with my brothers Trinity but I have a small problem with the internet settings.
I downloaded a cab file from a forum request on this site but it did not work for me and so I then copied the settings from a site called 'filesaveas' and itwork for me except in one way.
When I try to access my brothers Hotmail account via Pocket MSN I could not do it, however when I accessed Hotmail via Internet Explorer it was ok.
So I have some kind of error in the settings somewhere that still needs to be resolved. I contacted O2 for the settings but they would not give them to me because it is not an O2 handset. The screen asks me repeatedly for 'Incoming Email Password', which is exactly the same one as when I use Internet Explorer to acces Hotmail.
So let me know if you get the above working on yours and perhaps I could copy your settings.
Cheers!
And good luck!
Thanks NeilM,
Trouble is, I`ve tried and tried to find somewhere in the Route 66 menu where I can change GPS settings, but no luck. I`ve been checking through the files using File Explorer but can`t find anything anywhere that allows me to do that. Can you suggest somewhere I might find it or would it be pretty obvious, like going into the main menu in Route 66 when it`s running, and looking for a GPS settings tab. There isn`t one. It has a tab called GPS information but that just gives GPS status info, no way of changing any settings. Guess I`m stuffed!!
According to the Route66 help, it only supports Bluetooth GPS, not inbuilt receivers.
In fact their compatibility list is so old, I wonder it works on any current device
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According to the Route66 help, it only supports Bluetooth GPS, not inbuilt receivers.
In fact their compatibility list is so old, I wonder it works on any current device
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Thats great, thanks for letting me know, I can stop messing around with it now and go for something else or get a bluetooth receiver. The built in receiver isn`t that great anyway. I read somewhere that it was an 8 channel receiver. I have tried Navigon MN6 already with my M700 and I noticed that it`s positioning leaves a lot to be desired. I wondered if it might be something to do with the receiver as I didn`t expect it to be a SirfstarIII. So I might at some point just get myself a decent quality bluetooth SirfstarIII. Any recomendations?
Cheers for now
I have bought an HTC p3600 from Expansys in the UK with a UK Vodafone pay monthly contract. It came with the Navigation CD to install the GPS enabled ROM. The CD will not allow me to install the software on my device. When I get to the 'Auto Detect' stage of the on screen instructions and click the Detect button I get this message 'The device connected to the PC does not appear to be a HTC P3600. Please make sure the USB cable is connnected on both sides and that ActiveSync has recognised the phone and press <Retry>'. The device is connected and I have just succesfully synced it with ActiveSync (version 4.5.0) which gives the name of the device as 'HTC p3600'. 'Retry' produces the same message. I have tried several times. Note that my HTC p3600 is now fully set up and in daily use i.e. I did not try installing the CD immediately on receiving the handset. What can I do? I am aware that the ROM upgrade is available on the HTC website for download but I am worried about installing it from there in case it infringes my contract with Vodafone/erases Vodafone software that is essential to my connection.
If it's that essential to you to maintain legal support from Vodafone, then LET them handle this issue for you. You've described the problem well enough, even for them, to get working... That's what they're there for; what you f***ng pay them for!
But if you're brave and don't mind doing some more manual labor (only having to set more system settings manualy; like SMS-setting, internet settings, etc), just go ahead and install the official HTC GPS-ROM in your language: that should work just fine, unless Voda has cripled your device with some curious lock on the ROM or so...
As for 'cooked' ROM's: there is a great community right here to help you out with trying out some 'custom' stuff
What you still might try in your current case is to get to bootloader (see here on the Wiki for instructions) and then try too flash again...
(However it does sound like you're following some strange custom setupapplication which does some crazy things)
thanks
Apologies for submitting thread twice, oops. Thanks Moaske for your advice. I will pursue the Vodafone option first but failing that I will follow your suggestions. I don't mind getting my hands dirty.
I think you can basically do what you like with the phone with regards official HTC SIM's because you bought a non Vodafone branded device with a 'stand alone' Vodafone contract via Expansys,
So, essentially, your beef is with Expansys who provided the device, not Vodafone who provide the service, but don't yet officially support the P3600 (though they are planning on releasing it as the VPS Compact GPS at some point).
If the CD provided won't install, either the CD image is faulty, or the P3600 itself is faulty. You need to talk to Expansys customer services.
Don't worry about losing your settings with a ROM update- HTC have a small configuration program available to download on their site, which does all the configs for you. It is also quite easy to enter them manually, and there are a number of sites that publish the settings for all the operators.
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I think you can basically do what you like with the phone with regards official HTC SIM's because you bought a non Vodafone branded device with a 'stand alone' Vodafone contract via Expansys,
So, essentially, your beef is with Expansys who provided the device, not Vodafone who provide the service, but don't yet officially support the P3600 (though they are planning on releasing it as the VPS Compact GPS at some point).
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My mistake... NeilM is absolutely right on this one... (i thought you had the VPA GPS). My advice would be; get a new HTC ROM... don't be afraid, we're here to help you
Hi everyone, I am new to this topic and have only spent more time reading some of the topics relating to Hard-SPL, Roms etc since I have a had an issue with a recent upgrade of ROM supplied via Vodafone.
I have upgraded from the shipped ROM version 1.37 to 1.97, since the upgrade i was impressed with the slight changes that Vodafone had made to the screen response, and dialer slider ... BUT... wasn't impressed with the fact I am now being charged to access Windows Live, and Hotmail.
I used to be able to sit at home and access my wireless and just check my mail, since the upgrade being connected to my wireless it still connects via GPRS.
I have spoken to Vodafone and expressed my dissappointment, and they did lower my Data plan, but still it doesn't resolve the issue that i had a service which changed without notification.
They asked me to just go by my usual usage under the GPRS for the next five days just to review my usage and see how much of an impact this would make, works fine under GPRS, just a bit miffed now I can't use a feature on my phone, anyway, I went back to vodafone after 5 days and told them that I hadn't been able to download anything through my GPRS i.e attachments on emails.
I am looking to try and get this back to normal with my connections, Vodafone told me to think about doing a HARD-SPL on my phone, to check the version and to upgrade it to my phone... I have read and read and read... Now I have guides on how to do it and understood what it is for I am now confused which version I should be going for and Which ROM, I'm very worried to 'brick' my Diamond, it's the best device I have had.
BTW... Vodafone said doing this wouldn't void my warranty... that has to be a lie!!?
So I was wondering if anybody could help me to find a Hard-SPL version, ROM, Radio version that I require to upgrade my Handset I would be most greatful.
I checked the information from re-booting my phone with the down volume button pressed and dispalys the following:
DIAM100 64M
SPL-1.97.0000
Many Thanks
Hi Everyone...
I have had mt HTC 8925 (AT&T Tilt Branded) for well over a year... I use this phone daily and love it... I have never flashed a new rom to it since I flashed the most updated at the time AT&T stock rom that was out the day I got it... It is still running on WM 6.0 and is great for the most part... Only real modification was I did the reset trick to advoid the bloatware... After trying MANY programs, some I liked & kept... others I removed... I have finally run into a snag where I am willing to flash and start over to fix the issue (my tomtom traffic won't update anymore, and after much trouble shooting, TomTom and myself think I need to "Reset the Tilt to factory settings" or flash it to a new rom... I was hoping to get some advice from you guys to which rom should suite me best... Here are some details..
The phone is unlocked, and I use Einstein Wireless for service... so I do not need AT&T or Tmobile settings on there, and I prefer no hidden proxies or anything... I will manually enter my carriers internet and mms settings..
I use a lot of WiFi as my providors internet service is slower than I would like
I use it as a GPS (with TomTom) almost daily...
I installed the HTC Home Plugin and love it with the weather updates.. would like to have that incorperated with whatever rom
The radio version on stock rom works great for me.. so something when paired to do simmilar settings on that ?
I use the S2P, S2V2, and S2V .... So I can install those or if any rom has them in it...
I have a good sized micro SD (8gb at the moment) so I tend to install jsut about everything onto the SD card.. maybe a rom where that is the defautl location or something ?
I use MS Voice Command daily...
I play games on it regularly.. love works, ka-blom, pac man, emulators, and others...
I use wireless BT2.0 stereo headphones for MP3's and such
I stream music and video from my home computer using orb
I have used IE Mobile, Skyfire, and other browsers.. I jsut want one that works well...
I love an iContact (or type) contact program
As you probalyl guessed, I like it to be as finger friendly in general as possible...
I have used a few programs so I can use the phone as a webcam when connected via USB to my computer, woudl be great if it has that built in as well
MMS/SMS managing software would be great.. I usually keep recent txt's for a while after receiving them... something that say only keep them til you have a certain amount or after a certian amount of time passes would be great....
Of course, I would also like the rom to be very stable as well if that isn;t too much to ask..
I am open to trying to some programs/features that I have not used before... and I don't expect any rom to do everything I have listed above... The main thing will be to get one that I can set up the internet easy enough without having to worry about hidden settigns for AT&T or other such carrier... If you have been using a rom that you really liked that you think would work for me, let me know... Thank you in advance for reading this and sending me you suggestions....
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Hi Everyone...
I have had mt HTC 8925 (AT&T Tilt Branded) for well over a year... I use this phone daily and love it...
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So let me get this right.... You have a standard Tilt, minus the bloatware which you're happy with (and have been) until TomTom stopped working with traffic updates. You're now considering changing the ROM to fix the problem Why not just hard reset after backing up your stuff and do the bloatware free reset trick again? Oh and mods don't like 'ROM Recommendation' type threads (read some of the sticky posts to see why) so if people post saying ROM x is better than y, this thread will probably be locked to stop any arguments breaking out. Also TomTom will be less likely to offer support with cooked ROMs - I was told they wouldn't even support a HTC Default WM 6.1 ROM, only the WM 6.0 ROM the device (and TomTom) came with (one of the reasons why I had my device reverted to WM 6.0). Good luck with your hard reset
+1 on the real issue being Tom Tom traffic, as you seem pretty happy with use and your exisiting configuration. I'd try to find a WiFi hotspot (where Tom Tom can also see satellites) and see if Traffic will update via WiFi. Could be Einstein is blocking Tom Tom traffic over GPRS.
still new to the kaiser/tilt/tytn II, etc(less than a week) so not in a position to really give any real advice, but what helped me in my decision is reading through PureSkillz reviews of the roms and seaching with google outside of xda to see what people are using and that helped me with my decision, T-mobile sux in about every way, so if it is good on T-mobile it'll probably be good on anything else. What I had a hard time on is choosing the right radio for my device but luckily the rom i chose allowed me to use whatever radio i wanted and I am happy with my setup and don't plan to change unless something radical happens in the scene. I am running Tomtom 7 on my rom and it works perfect, but i dont have internet via my provider cause they charge way too much so i use wifi. the one thing i don't like about this rom is lack of landscape support but hey, cant complain if i'm not smart enough to cook my own stuff.
see my choice in my sig below. Aloha
Thanks... It isnl;t an einstein blocking issue.. I already tried the WiFi... The problem started right after I installed igo GPS program to compair the 2... I have since uninstalled igo, but tomtom still wont; connect to traffic.. I talked ot them at tomtom.. they were very frienmdly with troubleshooting.. went htough a million steps.. even gave me an additional free year of traffic as well for the problem, even though it isn;t their fault...
Thank you... I read that... and thought I woudl advoid those "argument" because I wasn;t trying to ask "What is the best rom"... I was trying to ask what rom would work the easiest for me in my unique situation ? That is why I listed how I use to and what software I use... But thanks for the input... I considered just doing the hard reset.... I just thought if now I am wiping my phone and starting over, which rom would give me added advantages...
And on the TomTom not working with 6.1..... My son bought a phone like mine after he saw me using it so much.. when he got his (After me) we grabbed the newest offical rom form HTC's site (he actually uses AT&T prepay, so the AT&T software is ok for him).. It was WM 6.1 and his TomTom software works fine.... So don;t let that stop you from using 6.1
I have downloaded the Athine OS WM 6.5 Final as well as the Hyper Dragan III from Christmas day, 08 as many people reccomened... I have to decide between them now... You have any experiance with either?
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So let me get this right.... You have a standard Tilt, minus the bloatware which you're happy with (and have been) until TomTom stopped working with traffic updates. You're now considering changing the ROM to fix the problem Why not just hard reset after backing up your stuff and do the bloatware free reset trick again? Oh and mods don't like 'ROM Recommendation' type threads (read some of the sticky posts to see why) so if people post saying ROM x is better than y, this thread will probably be locked to stop any arguments breaking out. Also TomTom will be less likely to offer support with cooked ROMs - I was told they wouldn't even support a HTC Default WM 6.1 ROM, only the WM 6.0 ROM the device (and TomTom) came with (one of the reasons why I had my device reverted to WM 6.0). Good luck with your hard reset
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Hiya Just joined this forum seems like a great resource. Altho not sure i understand evrything.
I have just emigrated from the UK to Australia and brought my trusty Orange branded spv m700 with me.
Went out today and bought myself a 3 network SIM card, which clearly didnt work as phone was still locked. DL'd the unlocking tool from here and managed to unlock phone no problem at all so now my 3 SIM card works.
having read some of the posts i understand that the GPS will not work and i need to flash the ROM with a GPS enabled one (GPS would be handy as i have been here 1 week and got lost sooooo many times already i think Tom Tom is going to be required). This is where my trouble starts i have nfi which one i should use.
Atm i have WM 5 on it.....will it run WM6 ok??
should i be using an australian version, wwe or cooked??
All i really need is to get gps working and make sure everything else still works on the Australian 3 network.
thanks in advance for any help and advice, sure i will have some more questions soon enough
D3xy
You should install another radio version. I will post in in a few hours here is you want. The version is 1.56. If you are pleased with the phone you have no reason to change the software. WM6 works. I have WM 6.1 and the g77's rom. It's a pretty nice one. All works. The only thing with it is that you don't have control volume during a call. With the original software that you have do you have control of the volume during a call?
I don't have it for a very long time but I think it's a nice phone.