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Hi there all
Heres my problem I just bought a XDA IIi SIM free, and I was going to put a O2 online SIM into it. But I have heard that you cannot use Mobile Web if I do this. I just want to know if this is true or not, and if it isn't true: then how do I set up the phone to connect to mobile web?
Also could I access mobile web through Wireless LAN as both my house and university use Wireless LANs?
My understanding is that mobile web is more like the actual web, rather than WAP like o2 Active.
Another thing is that my girlfriend has the Sony Ericcson K750i and uses a O2 online SIM card in it, and when she turns on her WAP it goes straight to google. Is this mobile web or wap? and if it is mobile web, if I just copied her settings, would it work for me?
Sorry for all the questions, but I'am new to this and dont pretend to know anything lol
Any help will be very much appreciated.
Thank you

When you say O2 online SIM, is it pay monthly or payg?
The 2i will connect to the real internet using gprs, wap or wifi, you just need the settings which can be found on this site for gprs and wap. The wifi you'll already have any router settings you may need. If the SIM is pay monthly then O2 active contains most if the settings you need.
You can set your homepage to whatever you want as the 2i uses ie6 mobile.

Thanks
the sim card is the online sim that you pay £10 a month and get 300 free texts along with your £10 worth of credit
will this have any bearing on the settings?
thank you

Well, there's only one way to find out, try it. What's the worst that will happen? It doesn't work and you'll have to ask again? You can't break it by trying.
No doubt someone will be along with a definite answer soon.
Have a look in the network section too.

ok
lol ok thanks for the help

HSDPA Connectivity options in UK

Hi there,
I've had a quick look around the forums and see posts which are in other countries - so I wanted to ask in a new thread.
I'm in the UK and considering getting a TyTN2 (currently on an Xda Orbit).
I have some questions which im having a little trouble in finding definitive answers to -
1. Is it possible to use the TyTN2 as a 'modem'? i.e connect to the Internet at high speed and 'relay' the information to my laptop? if so, would that mean connecting the laptop and the TyTN2 via a cable? wifi? bluetooth?
2. If the above can be done wirelessly, is it then possible to share on 2 laptops? (I have a main Dell XPS M1710 and a XPS M1330 for more portable needs)
3. I'm currently with O2 for my voice calls. I can get another providers service and was looking at the 3 network for it's nice pricing, however it looks like I have to connect using their specific modem. Is it possible to connect to 3's network using the TyTN2?
4. The other operators Vodafone, Orange T mobile etc - would it be a case of sgning up to an airtime deal and popping the SIM card into the TyTN2, syncing to my laptop and away I go ?
I live around the West London, Heathrow area and am here 99% of my time - I understand full speed HSDPA won't be available all the time when travelling away and could be at much reduced speeds etc - at that point, what is 'surfing' on the screen like on the TyTN2? I find browsing on the Orbit using wifi a bit of a strain on that small screen, any better on the TyTN2? I 'doubt' it really and thats why Iwant to use my laptops screen(s)
Apologies if this is covered in other posts, I could only find sporadic info and from other countries etc
Any ideas and responses well appreciated !
cheers, Dennis Cooper!

DennisCooper said:
1. Is it possible to use the TyTN2 as a 'modem'? i.e connect to the Internet at high speed and 'relay' the information to my laptop? if so, would that mean connecting the laptop and the TyTN2 via a cable? wifi? bluetooth?
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You can use TyTN II as modem, but it's not exactly a *modem* - it uses network sharing application instead. Basically the idea is that TyTN becomes something like 'access point', which acts as a gateway to the internet for your computer. Connectivity options are USB cable and Bluetooth. I use both of them without much hassle, but I don't know how to do it in Windows world (I'm a Linux-boy
2. If the above can be done wirelessly, is it then possible to share on 2 laptops? (I have a main Dell XPS M1710 and a XPS M1330 for more portable needs)
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I don't think so. Unless you'll manage to set up whole thing like that:
TyTN II --> internet sharing --> XPS M1710 --> internet sharing --> XPS M1330
But I never tried such configuration.
3. I'm currently with O2 for my voice calls. I can get another providers service and was looking at the 3 network for it's nice pricing, however it looks like I have to connect using their specific modem. Is it possible to connect to 3's network using the TyTN2?
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Yes, it is possible. They have recently introduced their Mobile Broadband offer (£10 / 1GB / month) into pay as you go, so you don't have to buy separate modem. Just get their payg SIM card, put it into Kaiser, activate Mobile Broadband add-on, get connection settings from their website, and use Internet Sharing app, as mentioned above. Should work.
4. The other operators Vodafone, Orange T mobile etc - would it be a case of sgning up to an airtime deal and popping the SIM card into the TyTN2, syncing to my laptop and away I go ?
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I only know how it works for T-Mobile. They have £1 per day internet access offer on pay as you go. However, there are some catches:
1) T&C don't allow to use it modems for computers (such as Kaiser and your laptops), BUT practically it works without any problems.
2) There is 40 MB daily limit, which is not 'fixed' - meaning that if you exceed it, you will be still able to use the service - but T-Mobile will have an eye on you, and will have right to cancel your card straight away if you'll keep exceeding it too often.
3) Their payg SIM cards are NOT allowed to use HSDPA service, meaning mere 384 kbps, without any chance to upgrade it - even if you are within HSDPA coverage.
So, basically - if you're light user, T-Mobile pay as you go option should be OK for you, but when you plan to use internet on the go more often - Three's Mobile Broadband should be a better deal for you.
Of course, you also have option to sign up for contract, for example T-Mobile's Flext + web'n'walk, which would give you both voice minutes, as well as internet access on the go, but it's up to you.
I live around the West London, Heathrow area and am here 99% of my time
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Ha! Just like me (TW14)
- I understand full speed HSDPA won't be available all the time when travelling away and could be at much reduced speeds etc - at that point, what is 'surfing' on the screen like on the TyTN2? I find browsing on the Orbit using wifi a bit of a strain on that small screen, any better on the TyTN2? I 'doubt' it really and thats why Iwant to use my laptops screen(s)
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I'm not sure what is HSDPA coverage by O2, but I'm on T-Mobile, and they basically have HSDPA deployed all around London already, with some sites upgraded to 3.6 Mbps speed.
When it comes to surfing on the screen, I recommend using Opera Mini 4. It's waaay better tha Pocket IE, and it's also much faster. It gives really great browsing experience in your pocket!

eva_d,
I am considering the tytn ii with the Flext 25 + web'n'walk from t-mobile, with it being 1gb a month unlimited internet access and my phone hsdpa compatible, does this price plan allow me to use hsdpa in london where i work rather than GPRS in a 3G covereage area?
thanks... sorry dennis to hijack your thread...

joelsoo said:
I am considering the tytn ii with the Flext 25 + web'n'walk from t-mobile, with it being 1gb a month unlimited internet access and my phone hsdpa compatible, does this price plan allow me to use hsdpa in london where i work rather than GPRS in a 3G covereage area?
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Yes, it allows HSDPA use.

I would check with t-mobile about the hsdpa theres a few posts about saying that t-mobile pulled hsdpa from the basic web and walk after mid october last year and made it availble to web and walk plus and the next higher tarrif. im on the £35 flext and web and walk basic and get hsdpa but i signed up in april last year. basically double check with t-mobile that you will get hsdpa on the w+w basic before you take out the contract.

united002 said:
I would check with t-mobile about the hsdpa theres a few posts about saying that t-mobile pulled hsdpa from the basic web and walk after mid october last year and made it availble to web and walk plus and the next higher tarrif. im on the £35 flext and web and walk basic and get hsdpa but i signed up in april last year. basically double check with t-mobile that you will get hsdpa on the w+w basic before you take out the contract.
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This is true, and was told the same by the cust service rep on the phone. However i added the basic £7.50 W&W, and after enabling HSDPA in Kaisertweak, am getting recieving it anyway!

i just sent a message to tmobile and one of their customer represensatives called me up and say if i'm in a 3g area it will be running on HSDPA even on the flext 25 and web and walk.
however they say to take note on the 1gb cap per month data fair usage policy.
if that's the case, i think i'd sign on for the contract within the next few days together with the vario III
however i have an offer for an iphone for 300 quid contract free.... so i am abit of a fix of which one to go for...

Schooleydoo said:
This is true, and was told the same by the cust service rep on the phone. However i added the basic £7.50 W&W, and after enabling HSDPA in Kaisertweak, am getting recieving it anyway!
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I also have basic WnW package (£7.50/month), and I do get HSDPA, but I've started my contract in 2006. However, explanation for not giving HSDPA access in basic WnW seems to be fair and reasonable (although not necessarily loved by users) - as that basic package is designed to give internet connectivity directly from mobile phone, which would not be used as modem for computers. In such case, 384kbps (non-HSDPA) speed seems reasonable for use in phone only. When it comes to use it from computer, then it's low - but then you also need to get WnW Plus or Max packages...
I am going to upgrade do WnW Plus pretty soon, anyway. It's only £5 more per month, but allows legally use my Kaiser as modem, and also gives me full T-Mobile's WiFi hotspots access across UK.

Anyone know the settings for O2??

I received an HTC Kaiser for Christmas and have an O2 pay and go Sim. I have tried to get the MMS, WAP & GPRS setting from O2 but they are useless.
They even sell the phone as the XDA Stellar but still haven't got the relevant entries for this product.
I would be very grateful if someone could post either the settings or where I can find them.
Many thanks
tyoungcb10 (almost newbie although my previous phone is a Wizard)

http://www.filesaveas.com/
That site will give you ALL the information you need

I have spent many hours on the phone to O2 trying to get the PAYG settingsfor my XDA Exec, to be told everytime that I cant have them.
The reason is I need to go on contract - full internet access isnt supported on PAYG.
What made me laugh is they sent me a 3G sim upgrade, only to then say I cant use this sim in my O2 branded phone to access the net.
Utterly crazy, none of the other networks block internet access.

Thanks Nikumba.
Regrettably that site is way out of date and doesn't have the specific settings for the Kaiser (XDA Stellar).
I have the settings for the XDA Exec for GPRS Web and GPRS Wap so if you want them let me know. I used to go online with my previous mobile XDA Mini S (HTC Wizard) & that was on a Pay and Go basis.
I will have to push O2 for better answers or change to a better network.
Tyoungcb10

mjay07 said:
I have spent many hours on the phone to O2 trying to get the PAYG settingsfor my XDA Exec, to be told everytime that I cant have them.
The reason is I need to go on contract - full internet access isnt supported on PAYG.
What made me laugh is they sent me a 3G sim upgrade, only to then say I cant use this sim in my O2 branded phone to access the net.
Utterly crazy, none of the other networks block internet access.
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I use O2 with paygo for FULL WEB ACCESS without problems (I am in the UK) - BUT not all the published settings are correct!
By the wat the settings are not any different for the Kaiser than other WM devices eg mine are the same as I use in my TyTn
UK Settings written for the TyTn so menus may differ slightly(they may differ elsewhere):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1218686&postcount=7
Problems with Internet access are likely to be related to the port No: use 8080 NOT 80
Mike

for those on tmobile USA plz help!

hey guys, i was using an unlocked tilt on tmobile with no probs until the 5.99 tzones plan stopped working. i then proceeded to take that plan off and added the 19.99 total internet plan. ever since then i cant connect to the internet! at first i thought there was something wrong with my account, however one of my friends has an mda with the same plan as me. so i took out my sim card and put it in his mda and put his sim card in my tilt. now the internet on his phone (with my sim card) works and the internet on my tilt (with his sim card) doesnt work! we have the same exact settings, so i dont know whats going on??!! i was thinking it was somehow incompatible with my radio; and so far i've tried 1.27.12.11 and 1.27.12.17, and both dont work.. i'm currently using dutty's #7 nontouchflo rom... thanks for any help!
omar

Omar, are you in South Florida? If so read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366634&page=2
Even if not, T-mo is testing 3G in other areas so it may still apply.

internet connection
the t-zone internet uses wap. if you look at your current internet connection modem it probably says wap.voicestream.com. the total internet package uses internet2.voicestream.com

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the t-zone internet uses wap. if you look at your current internet connection modem it probably says wap.voicestream.com. the total internet package uses internet2.voicestream.com
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wap.voicestream.com and internet2.voicestream.com - I am convinced they are virtually the same thing.
My total internet works either way on each phone I have.

I also have a Tilt on tmobile network, and i have had no probs.. the only snag i have ran into is i have to change my setting when i want to send MMS and getting onto the Internet... but no biggy, as long as i dont have to pay the $19.99 price...

FTP Over UK t-mobile 3G With Kaiser ?

I've tried to FTP into a known working FTP server via a 3G connection supplied by t-mobile UK - FAIL
Tech support at t-mobile say the Vario III isn't capable of FTP which I find difficult to believe.
Anyone else used FTP via laptop using their kaiser as a modem ?

Not one reply ?
No one does FTP with their Vario II III or IV ?
C'mon guys and gals help a guy bust a telco
Is port 21 accessible to you on your device & network ?
If so, t-mobile UK is shining me on by telling me it's the fault of the device rather then them blocking port 21 to prevent skype / portmapping etc.

I'm also on T-Mo UK with the MDA Vario III (Kaiser)...
It's probably an issue with the contract you're on. I originally had plain Web 'n' Walk, and I was told at point of sale that this will enable HSDPA at *full speed*, enable me to use my phone almost as a broadband modem and enable me to use all internet protocols. I tried for ages to get MSN working on my laptop when sharing the Kaiser's internet with no luck at all (long before I discovered this place)... After running a few speed tests using a HSDPA connection on my phone, I discovered I wasn't getting the speed I probably should. Called T-Mo tech support and they advised that no, I actually need web 'n' walk plus to get full speed HSDPA (3.8mbit, IIRC) and access to all data protocols. Now MSN works perfectly!
I've not tested FTP access, but it's worth calling T-Mo or checking which Web 'n' Walk plan you're on (if any at all) - this is the most likely problem.
And you're probably right, it's probably to stop you screwing them out of money by using VoIP rather than the cellular network .