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trying to do some research here.
Can I please get those of you to post here if:
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
B: You are on ATT in the US
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
Thanks
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
Media net $20/month
Buzz313th said:
trying to do some research here.
Can I please get those of you to post here if:
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
PDA Plan
Thanks
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(In Line ... see above)
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
PDA Unlimited Plan
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
PDA Unlimited Plan
sqadan said:
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
PDA Unlimited Plan
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Same as above
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
MediaNet - $19.99 - plan
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes(but not everything will work using this so i use wap.cingular
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
PDA connect unlimited
A: You have a HTC Kaiser - YES
B: You are on ATT in the US - YUP
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular - NO, I USE WAP.CINGULAR
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan. - I am actually on the 20 dollar media net plan PREPAID haha
And on WAP.CINGULAR I do not use a proxy and get full net access plus 3g. I went prepaid because I had heard ATT/Cingular had overbilled people that used alot of data on their phones while having a media net plan because they figured a "media net phone" couldnt use gigs of data. So people had gotten like 500 dollar bills and I wanted to avoid that so I went the prepaid route.
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
I use WAP
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
Blackberry Connect
I am actually using my Kaiser on the iPhone data plan. I originally got an iPhone and used it for a few months until I got frustrated that it didn't support exchange. I put the SIM into my new TyTN II and it works great with no changes to my original iPhone plan. The phone says it is using MediaNET for the connection. Unfortunately we only have edge speed out here in Denver.
A: You have a HTC Kaiser
Yes
B: You are on ATT in the US
Yes
C: You can connect to the Access Point isp.cingular
Yes(but not everything will work using this so i use wap.cingular)
D: You are on the PDA connect plan or the Media net plan.
Unlimited Media Net $19.99
I did the same. The only thing is I ran into a few problems with voicemail and MMS so I called and had my plan switched back to mediamax 200 and everything works great.
w4rmk said:
I am actually using my Kaiser on the iPhone data plan. I originally got an iPhone and used it for a few months until I got frustrated that it didn't support exchange. I put the SIM into my new TyTN II and it works great with no changes to my original iPhone plan. The phone says it is using MediaNET for the connection. Unfortunately we only have edge speed out here in Denver.
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Thanks... now if those of you who responded could do me another favor.
Please use this link to do a speed test on your device, http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1
If you can, please use 3g and both of the wap.cingular conections, one with the proxy and one without and report your download speeds...
I used to get 550kbs-800kbs in Los Angeles, on ATT's 3g, PDA Unlimited Plan, but now I am getting 250-400. All this started after I gave them my IMEI number and the idiots in Customer Care told me that my phone is unrecognized and that It is not 3g capable... well, 5 hours later, I now have the direct number to ANS and they have created a ticket for me and are actually trying to help...
I am asking you all to give me the speeds, so that I may be able to find out if it is my account only, or if ATT has been corking the 3g conection here in LA..
Thanks
JB
I doubt you'll get much good data, since your throughput can be affected by so many environmental variables. Like the type of browser you're using. PIE report 167Kbps for me (I'm just outside Long Beach, CA), Opera reports between 800Kbps to 1.1Mbps.
But I have an unlocked TyTN II on AT&T and using the default config that the SIM sets up, those are the speeds I'm getting.
PerfAlbion said:
I doubt you'll get much good data, since your throughput can be affected by so many environmental variables. Like the type of browser you're using. PIE report 167Kbps for me (I'm just outside Long Beach, CA), Opera reports between 800Kbps to 1.1Mbps.
But I have an unlocked TyTN II on AT&T and using the default config that the SIM sets up, those are the speeds I'm getting.
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Thanks for the reply...
When I use PIE and opera I get the same speeds... Environment and other variables affect me less then the fact that ATT's network speeds when put on a graph look like spike city... It almost looks like the connection can run faster but is corked after 300kbits are sent...
Please continue checking...
JB
in PIE I got 385k, with Opera-Mini I got 1,542kbit/sec 0.44s latency. That was with the max 1MB file size. In Corona Del Mar
iPhone plan using wap.cingular, getting 1510 kb/sec with .32s latency, 5.744 d/l time, max 1mb file, San Diego on Opera.
Same other variables but switched to isp.cingular, getting 2013kb/sec, .343s latency, 5.398s d/l time.
I couldn't test PIE because apparently java needs to be installed. Go figure, since Opera's running fine.
Yes to all.
I have PDA Connect unlimited.
I'm getting 1520kb/s using opera.
FYI: I've seen 2.2 using 2wire.com not sure if it's reliable though
Buzz313th said:
Thanks... now if those of you who responded could do me another favor.
Please use this link to do a speed test on your device, http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1
If you can, please use 3g and both of the wap.cingular conections, one with the proxy and one without and report your download speeds...
I used to get 550kbs-800kbs in Los Angeles, on ATT's 3g, PDA Unlimited Plan, but now I am getting 250-400. All this started after I gave them my IMEI number and the idiots in Customer Care told me that my phone is unrecognized and that It is not 3g capable... well, 5 hours later, I now have the direct number to ANS and they have created a ticket for me and are actually trying to help...
I am asking you all to give me the speeds, so that I may be able to find out if it is my account only, or if ATT has been corking the 3g conection here in LA..
Thanks
JB
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When you gave at&t your IMEI#, the Kasier comes up as unknown in the at&t provisioning system. By default it is set to GSM device and not UMTS. This has been discussed in the at&t/Cingular forum.
BillMNJ wrote:
I spent almost an hour on with AT&T's data support and the guy said the reason was the failure of my devices IMEI# to register the devices hardware. There seems to be no hardware profile for the TyTnII ansd therefore it comes up as an "unknown device" in their provisioning system. I confirmed this on my visit to the store this afternoon as the rep there showed me the screen and sure enough, it comes up as unknown, and the setting for this selection is GSM, not UMTS which all of their 3G phones are set to. He said, your device "does not exist" in a valid profile as a UMTS device and therefore will never be able to see a 3G signal even if I was sitting under a 3G tower... He showed me his phone which is 3G capable and id did indeed have UMTS and a valid hardware profile.
I just switched to AT&T from T-Mobile (using an MDA) so I could get the Kaiser/Tilt at a great price.
Back with T-Mobile I used to pay for the T-Zones account for $5.99 a month and I would be able to get (albeit slow) internet access using that plan. Since I am usualy in an area with WiFi that worked out fine for me in the few instances when I needed the net while WiFi wasnt available.
AT&T though seems to only have data plans starting at $29.99 and up for the Tilt.
Does AT&T offer a similar WAP plan for another phone that I could put onto my plan and access the net the same way I used to with my MDA on T-Mobile?
with the right sales person, and the right person saying the right things, you can get 3g speeds for 19.99/month.
I think I just saw that plan on their site, the Cellular Connect Unlimited w/ Mail, meant for normal phone's not PDA's.
Guess I'll have to look into that option. Thanks.
Hey guys,
I was wondering, which one of the different US providers would you recommend to use with an imported unlocked diamond2?
I'm currently with AT&T, and I'm having a lot of issues to connect to MediaNet... For some unknown reason, the phone looses its connection:
- every single time after either a reboot or using wifi
- on time to time, randomly without any specific reason
My main concern being: it's a pain to get it back! It takes several reboot and retry to re-setup the data connection.
I was wondering if some of you have actually experience better result with other provider or even with AT&T... (note: i m on a pay-as-you-go plan for phone and data)
Thanks,
Kandjar
I, too, am using Diamond2 with ATT and I'm ok with it. Granted, I've given up trying to use MediaNet on this phone but not really missing it.
I'm on T-mobile with the $5.99 unlimited data (T-Mobile Web). It's now $9.99 Web2Go if you are starting a new contract with limited data. Everything is working fine and the other day I got my email working on the diamond2 through the $5.99 plan.
No connection problems at all.
Same here with T-Mobile and the T-Zones plan, my call quality is pretty good with no drops & edge has descent speeds.
Wow, ok, once my pay-as-you-go expired, I'll definitively check T-Mobile!
AT&T data plan is slow and not very stable for me...
The main reason I need it is: mails!
I got so addicted to the 'read mail everywhere' plan, it's scary... When it doesn't work, it's bugging the heck out of me
I found in the 'phone setting' that it's possible to change the baseband; so instead of having them set to 'auto', I'm trying to force them to be:
'gsm' and '1900+850' to see if there is any improvements.
In any case T-Mobile does sound a lot cheaper...
I m currently paying $100 for 400 minutes (good for a year) and $20/month for 100MB... That's about $30/months.
Thanks for the replies
wbaez0320 said:
Same here with T-Mobile and the T-Zones plan, my call quality is pretty good with no drops & edge has descent speeds.
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Edge on T-mo has really good speeds here in CO. That's why I don't mind not having 3G. Soon enough manufacturers will be making quadband 3g handsets. I hope.
Any who kandjar if you need help with the data settings if and when you switch to T-mo just post up. If you search google for T-mobile wireless configurator you can get the settings by selecting any WinMo phone in the list ut you have to change some things.
Edit*
Disregard that last part about the configurator. The D2 finds the settings automagically for you. But you still have to change 1 or 2 things so it'll work.
That's cool, thanks!
By the way: does the youtube app work with T-Mobile?
It doesn't seem to work at all with AT&T...
Or does it only work with 3g?
kandjar said:
That's cool, thanks!
By the way: does the youtube app work with T-Mobile?
It doesn't seem to work at all with AT&T...
Or does it only work with 3g?
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Youtube worked on my Diamond2 with ATT. I don't have a data package with ATT, but I have wifi in my complex and I can watch Youtube on the Wifi.
As well as sending/receiving emails.
True, I should have been a bit more explicit..
I also managed to get it to work through wifi...
I m just wondering if this work with data plan (through medianet ...)
kandjar said:
True, I should have been a bit more explicit..
I also managed to get it to work through wifi...
I m just wondering if this work with data plan (through medianet ...)
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Yes it works fine on T-mobile edge. Maybe AT&T edge is a bit slow? IDK? This is on T-zones might I add. Not T-mobiles full web service. Who needs that with opera available?
I want to put an HTC dream on Bell, because now that Bell is HSPA it is compatible with the device. All I need is a sim card and I'm good to go. However, would I face problems doing this? For example, how does the device know which number to dial to get a data connection going, and things like that?
Macmee said:
I want to put an HTC dream on Bell, because now that Bell is HSPA it is compatible with the device. All I need is a sim card and I'm good to go. However, would I face problems doing this? For example, how does the device know which number to dial to get a data connection going, and things like that?
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From what I can tell, the telus/bell hspa network is 850/1900 and ONLY supports 3G, i.e., there is NO EDGE FALLBACK. This means that you *MUST* get a device that supports hspa 850/1900, which means you need a ROGERS HTC DREAM. An ADP1 or tmobile-branded DREAM will NOT work on telus/bell.
Note: Do NOT hold me to this info, do your own research to verify that these statements are accurate.
As for getting a data connection, that is simply a matter of plugging in the correct APN info that matches your network. But quite frankly, at $40 for 500MB, I would stick with WiFi for data.
I bought a Rogers dream. I have the htc Vogue with 7 dollars unlimited data now, so that's why I'm curious about if my data will work, as the $7 unlimited data was only for the Vogue.
Macmee said:
I bought a Rogers dream. I have the htc Vogue with 7 dollars unlimited data now, so that's why I'm curious about if my data will work, as the $7 unlimited data was only for the Vogue.
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Thr $7 unlimited plan will not work with the dream. Thre only smart phone that bell allowed that plan on was the vogue/touch and they consider it a pda device. The data will most certainly look different on bells network because you'll be connecting to the new hdspa network. Bell will be able to tell that you are on a smart phone on their new network and charge you accordingly.
The only possible work around I xcould think of would b e to register a 3g dumbphone on the new sim card and thewn try to put that sim card in the dream but like I said bell can tell the difference between dumb phone data and smaet phone data so you'll probably get dinged fairly hard
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Thr $7 unlimited plan will not work with the dream. Thre only smart phone that bell allowed that plan on was the vogue/touch and they consider it a pda device. The data will most certainly look different on bells network because you'll be connecting to the new hdspa network. Bell will be able to tell that you are on a smart phone on their new network and charge you accordingly.
The only possible work around I xcould think of would b e to register a 3g dumbphone on the new sim card and thewn try to put that sim card in the dream but like I said bell can tell the difference between dumb phone data and smaet phone data so you'll probably get dinged fairly hard
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Hmm, I'm not sure which speed my data is on the vogue. At the top it says 3G with android, but on Windows Mobile it said EVDO.
Macmee said:
Hmm, I'm not sure which speed my data is on the vogue. At the top it says 3G with android, but on Windows Mobile it said EVDO.
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Well bells cdma network was also considered 3g so if the phone was capable then it should of had 3g connection.
Like I said youn can try and register a hdspa equipped dumbphone and then throw the sim in your dream but I'm not sure how well that will work and that is assuming bell doesn't hardware IMEI lock the account
AverageCanadian said:
Well bells cdma network was also considered 3g so if the phone was capable then it should of had 3g connection.
Like I said youn can try and register a hdspa equipped dumbphone and then throw the sim in your dream but I'm not sure how well that will work and that is assuming bell doesn't hardware IMEI lock the account
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Hmm, can I use some tweak on the dream to tell it only to use 3G?
Macmee said:
Hmm, can I use some tweak on the dream to tell it only to use 3G?
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The dream and the touch work on complety different networks. Assuming the touch does get 3g data it does so on bells cdma network whereas rogers dreram wikk get 3g speeds on bells new hdspa network wich is more like a gsm network. There is no way to fool bell into believing the dream is working on the old cdma network.
AverageCanadian said:
The dream and the touch work on complety different networks. Assuming the touch does get 3g data it does so on bells cdma network whereas rogers dreram wikk get 3g speeds on bells new hdspa network wich is more like a gsm network. There is no way to fool bell into believing the dream is working on the old cdma network.
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So my only shot is to try to convince the folks at Bell to let me keep the $7 unlimited data on HSPA?
I don't know if I'm allowed to switch plans during a contract, but even if I do I think Bell is ridiculously expensive for data. I pay $55 now, and I think it would cost me just short of $70 a month for just 1GB of data
Macmee said:
So my only shot is to try to convince the folks at Bell to let me keep the $7 unlimited data on HSPA?
I don't know if I'm allowed to switch plans during a contract, but even if I do I think Bell is ridiculously expensive for data. I pay $55 now, and I think it would cost me just short of $70 a month for just 1GB of data
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I can tell you now that you're noting going to get $7 unlimited data on any other smart phone device other than your touch.
Depending on how far you are into your contract(more than 6 months) I would call retensions and try to negotiate a better deal. You can check the Bell section of Howardforums to see what is currently being offered. Also depending on where you work you might be able to get an EPP plan.
You can always change your plan on contract you just can't drop your plan. Also if you get a retension plan or EPP plan you will have to renew for another 3 years.
Also if you do switch to normal data read the fine print. That might also require a 1 or 3year contract, I'm not sure I haven't looked at it.
I know the Rogers 1gb+ plans require at least a 1 year contract sigining. They might have even raised that to 3 years, can't remember.
AverageCanadian said:
I can tell you now that you're noting going to get $7 unlimited data on any other smart phone device other than your touch.
Depending on how far you are into your contract(more than 6 months) I would call retensions and try to negotiate a better deal. You can check the Bell section of Howardforums to see what is currently being offered. Also depending on where you work you might be able to get an EPP plan.
You can always change your plan on contract you just can't drop your plan. Also if you get a retension plan or EPP plan you will have to renew for another 3 years.
Also if you do switch to normal data read the fine print. That might also require a 1 or 3year contract, I'm not sure I haven't looked at it.
I know the Rogers 1gb+ plans require at least a 1 year contract sigining. They might have even raised that to 3 years, can't remember.
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I have no idea how to get in touch with retentions, or what I could say to them. I just know I would burn through 500mb of data in several days
Thanks for this information though, certainly worth looking into.
I can confirm that a T-Mobile G1 (sim unlocked) will not work on Telus.
I went to a Quebec telus store yesterday to try and have it activated, I bought a Sim card and put it in the phone, the phone was unable to see the Telus network, it was only seeing the Rogers network.
Darn.
stanelie said:
I can confirm that a T-Mobile G1 (sim unlocked) will not work on Telus.
I went to a Quebec telus store yesterday to try and have it activated, I bought a Sim card and put it in the phone, the phone was unable to see the Telus network, it was only seeing the Rogers network.
Darn.
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In fact, it was only seeing the rogers *EDGE* network.
Telus/bell don't have edge at all.
You need a *rogers dream* to find the telus/bell hspa signal.
lbcoder said:
In fact, it was only seeing the rogers *EDGE* network.
Telus/bell don't have edge at all.
You need a *rogers dream* to find the telus/bell hspa signal.
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Good that's what I have
is all I have to do put my sim card in, or do I have to like, configure the device to use Bells dial 777 for data thing?
Bell's website says it will work when I type the IMEI in, but on Bells website it says 1900mhz and on the HTC website:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
it says it's 2100mhz.
Should I be scared?
Macmee said:
Bell's website says it will work when I type the IMEI in, but on Bells website it says 1900mhz and on the HTC website:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
it says it's 2100mhz.
Should I be scared?
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Read my lips... ***ROGERS*** dream.
Macmee said:
Bell's website says it will work when I type the IMEI in, but on Bells website it says 1900mhz and on the HTC website:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
it says it's 2100mhz.
Should I be scared?
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lol like lbcoder says, rogers has their own frequency phone (with the proper crystal to work on rogers network). and that link is for the htc hero, its a whole 'nother phone
Just a heads up for people who want to use a Rogers Dream on Bell or Telus, you'll need to get the APN settings for their network.
I pulled these settings from Bells website, but I'm not sure they are complete
menu->settings->wireless controls->mobile networks->Acess Point Names->menu->New APN
Name: Bell
APN: pda2.bell.ca
MMSC: http://mms.bell.ca/mms/wapenc
MMS Proxy: web.wireless.bell.ca:80
Okay thanks guys. I tried the apn info on my Vogue which is on android, and they worked, so I can only assume theey will work. On the dream
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Just a heads up for people who want to use a Rogers Dream on Bell or Telus, you'll need to get the APN settings for their network.
I pulled these settings from Bells website, but I'm not sure they are complete
menu->settings->wireless controls->mobile networks->Acess Point Names->menu->New APN
Name: Bell
APN: pda2.bell.ca
MMSC: http://mms.bell.ca/mms/wapenc
MMS Proxy: web.wireless.bell.ca:80
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I can confirm the Rogers Dream works with Telus also. It always shows as Roaming but still works fine, just have to enable data connection when roaming.
Telus' APN settings are:
TELUS SP:
APN = sp.telus.com
Proxy = 74.49.0.18
Port 80
Username = <not set>
Password = <not set>
Server = <not set>
MMSC = http://aliasredirect.net/proxy/mmsc
MMS proxy = 74.49.0.18
MMS Port = 80
MMS Protocol = WAP 2.0
MCC = 302
MNC = 220
APN type = default,mms
Also, anyone plannning to run CyanogenMod on their Dream or Magic should consider this tutorial for installation, it allows you to keep the 3.22.20.17 radio image that is stock on the Rogers phones and improves the data connection. There is also this bit of info that enables full UMTS support when running CyanogenMod.
Hi. Anyone know why my coworker's iphone at&t sim works in my tab but not the pay-as-you-go sim that originally came with it?
I'm using the JK3 modem with the overcome beta2 rom. Is there an issue with this modem working with the type of plan I have?
Thanks!
AT&T APN Data Settings for Galaxy Tab
Go to Settings, Wireless & Network, Mobile Networks, Access Point names and make sure you have one called Broadband (assuming you are on the ATT monthly data only plan)
If you dont, create a new APN
Name: Broadband
APN: Broadband
Just leave the other options as is, save it & select it.
I think by default it comes up with the ATT wap.cingular APN which doesn't work with the Tab Data plan.
I use the JK3 modem too.
Awesome! That did it.
Thanks!
RichAP,
you are the F**Kin man. I spent 2 1/2 hours on the phone with at&t with no result. after search this furom and changing names (a whole 15 mins at the most) I finnally have data. Maybe these "tech customer service" people should use xda when help people out, or maybe my dumb ass should have looked first. either way thanks RichAP.
No problem, glad I could help!
I've also had an issue with the stock AT&T Data Usage widget messing up my either my APN or Data.
Followed these instructions, but I think I have another layer of complexity.
My Tab is an international version and when I signed up on the att.com/addsession (or whatever the name is) page, it tells me they don't have a data plan for my device. Is that because my version of the Tab has voice capabilities?
I'll call AT&T tomorrow but thought I would see if anyone else has had this issue.