I want to put an HTC dream on Bell, because now that Bell is HSPA it is compatible with the device. All I need is a sim card and I'm good to go. However, would I face problems doing this? For example, how does the device know which number to dial to get a data connection going, and things like that?
Macmee said:
I want to put an HTC dream on Bell, because now that Bell is HSPA it is compatible with the device. All I need is a sim card and I'm good to go. However, would I face problems doing this? For example, how does the device know which number to dial to get a data connection going, and things like that?
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From what I can tell, the telus/bell hspa network is 850/1900 and ONLY supports 3G, i.e., there is NO EDGE FALLBACK. This means that you *MUST* get a device that supports hspa 850/1900, which means you need a ROGERS HTC DREAM. An ADP1 or tmobile-branded DREAM will NOT work on telus/bell.
Note: Do NOT hold me to this info, do your own research to verify that these statements are accurate.
As for getting a data connection, that is simply a matter of plugging in the correct APN info that matches your network. But quite frankly, at $40 for 500MB, I would stick with WiFi for data.
I bought a Rogers dream. I have the htc Vogue with 7 dollars unlimited data now, so that's why I'm curious about if my data will work, as the $7 unlimited data was only for the Vogue.
Macmee said:
I bought a Rogers dream. I have the htc Vogue with 7 dollars unlimited data now, so that's why I'm curious about if my data will work, as the $7 unlimited data was only for the Vogue.
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Thr $7 unlimited plan will not work with the dream. Thre only smart phone that bell allowed that plan on was the vogue/touch and they consider it a pda device. The data will most certainly look different on bells network because you'll be connecting to the new hdspa network. Bell will be able to tell that you are on a smart phone on their new network and charge you accordingly.
The only possible work around I xcould think of would b e to register a 3g dumbphone on the new sim card and thewn try to put that sim card in the dream but like I said bell can tell the difference between dumb phone data and smaet phone data so you'll probably get dinged fairly hard
AverageCanadian said:
Thr $7 unlimited plan will not work with the dream. Thre only smart phone that bell allowed that plan on was the vogue/touch and they consider it a pda device. The data will most certainly look different on bells network because you'll be connecting to the new hdspa network. Bell will be able to tell that you are on a smart phone on their new network and charge you accordingly.
The only possible work around I xcould think of would b e to register a 3g dumbphone on the new sim card and thewn try to put that sim card in the dream but like I said bell can tell the difference between dumb phone data and smaet phone data so you'll probably get dinged fairly hard
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Hmm, I'm not sure which speed my data is on the vogue. At the top it says 3G with android, but on Windows Mobile it said EVDO.
Macmee said:
Hmm, I'm not sure which speed my data is on the vogue. At the top it says 3G with android, but on Windows Mobile it said EVDO.
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Well bells cdma network was also considered 3g so if the phone was capable then it should of had 3g connection.
Like I said youn can try and register a hdspa equipped dumbphone and then throw the sim in your dream but I'm not sure how well that will work and that is assuming bell doesn't hardware IMEI lock the account
AverageCanadian said:
Well bells cdma network was also considered 3g so if the phone was capable then it should of had 3g connection.
Like I said youn can try and register a hdspa equipped dumbphone and then throw the sim in your dream but I'm not sure how well that will work and that is assuming bell doesn't hardware IMEI lock the account
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Hmm, can I use some tweak on the dream to tell it only to use 3G?
Macmee said:
Hmm, can I use some tweak on the dream to tell it only to use 3G?
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The dream and the touch work on complety different networks. Assuming the touch does get 3g data it does so on bells cdma network whereas rogers dreram wikk get 3g speeds on bells new hdspa network wich is more like a gsm network. There is no way to fool bell into believing the dream is working on the old cdma network.
AverageCanadian said:
The dream and the touch work on complety different networks. Assuming the touch does get 3g data it does so on bells cdma network whereas rogers dreram wikk get 3g speeds on bells new hdspa network wich is more like a gsm network. There is no way to fool bell into believing the dream is working on the old cdma network.
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So my only shot is to try to convince the folks at Bell to let me keep the $7 unlimited data on HSPA?
I don't know if I'm allowed to switch plans during a contract, but even if I do I think Bell is ridiculously expensive for data. I pay $55 now, and I think it would cost me just short of $70 a month for just 1GB of data
Macmee said:
So my only shot is to try to convince the folks at Bell to let me keep the $7 unlimited data on HSPA?
I don't know if I'm allowed to switch plans during a contract, but even if I do I think Bell is ridiculously expensive for data. I pay $55 now, and I think it would cost me just short of $70 a month for just 1GB of data
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I can tell you now that you're noting going to get $7 unlimited data on any other smart phone device other than your touch.
Depending on how far you are into your contract(more than 6 months) I would call retensions and try to negotiate a better deal. You can check the Bell section of Howardforums to see what is currently being offered. Also depending on where you work you might be able to get an EPP plan.
You can always change your plan on contract you just can't drop your plan. Also if you get a retension plan or EPP plan you will have to renew for another 3 years.
Also if you do switch to normal data read the fine print. That might also require a 1 or 3year contract, I'm not sure I haven't looked at it.
I know the Rogers 1gb+ plans require at least a 1 year contract sigining. They might have even raised that to 3 years, can't remember.
AverageCanadian said:
I can tell you now that you're noting going to get $7 unlimited data on any other smart phone device other than your touch.
Depending on how far you are into your contract(more than 6 months) I would call retensions and try to negotiate a better deal. You can check the Bell section of Howardforums to see what is currently being offered. Also depending on where you work you might be able to get an EPP plan.
You can always change your plan on contract you just can't drop your plan. Also if you get a retension plan or EPP plan you will have to renew for another 3 years.
Also if you do switch to normal data read the fine print. That might also require a 1 or 3year contract, I'm not sure I haven't looked at it.
I know the Rogers 1gb+ plans require at least a 1 year contract sigining. They might have even raised that to 3 years, can't remember.
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I have no idea how to get in touch with retentions, or what I could say to them. I just know I would burn through 500mb of data in several days
Thanks for this information though, certainly worth looking into.
I can confirm that a T-Mobile G1 (sim unlocked) will not work on Telus.
I went to a Quebec telus store yesterday to try and have it activated, I bought a Sim card and put it in the phone, the phone was unable to see the Telus network, it was only seeing the Rogers network.
Darn.
stanelie said:
I can confirm that a T-Mobile G1 (sim unlocked) will not work on Telus.
I went to a Quebec telus store yesterday to try and have it activated, I bought a Sim card and put it in the phone, the phone was unable to see the Telus network, it was only seeing the Rogers network.
Darn.
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In fact, it was only seeing the rogers *EDGE* network.
Telus/bell don't have edge at all.
You need a *rogers dream* to find the telus/bell hspa signal.
lbcoder said:
In fact, it was only seeing the rogers *EDGE* network.
Telus/bell don't have edge at all.
You need a *rogers dream* to find the telus/bell hspa signal.
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Good that's what I have
is all I have to do put my sim card in, or do I have to like, configure the device to use Bells dial 777 for data thing?
Bell's website says it will work when I type the IMEI in, but on Bells website it says 1900mhz and on the HTC website:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
it says it's 2100mhz.
Should I be scared?
Macmee said:
Bell's website says it will work when I type the IMEI in, but on Bells website it says 1900mhz and on the HTC website:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
it says it's 2100mhz.
Should I be scared?
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Read my lips... ***ROGERS*** dream.
Macmee said:
Bell's website says it will work when I type the IMEI in, but on Bells website it says 1900mhz and on the HTC website:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
it says it's 2100mhz.
Should I be scared?
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lol like lbcoder says, rogers has their own frequency phone (with the proper crystal to work on rogers network). and that link is for the htc hero, its a whole 'nother phone
Just a heads up for people who want to use a Rogers Dream on Bell or Telus, you'll need to get the APN settings for their network.
I pulled these settings from Bells website, but I'm not sure they are complete
menu->settings->wireless controls->mobile networks->Acess Point Names->menu->New APN
Name: Bell
APN: pda2.bell.ca
MMSC: http://mms.bell.ca/mms/wapenc
MMS Proxy: web.wireless.bell.ca:80
Okay thanks guys. I tried the apn info on my Vogue which is on android, and they worked, so I can only assume theey will work. On the dream
AverageCanadian said:
Just a heads up for people who want to use a Rogers Dream on Bell or Telus, you'll need to get the APN settings for their network.
I pulled these settings from Bells website, but I'm not sure they are complete
menu->settings->wireless controls->mobile networks->Acess Point Names->menu->New APN
Name: Bell
APN: pda2.bell.ca
MMSC: http://mms.bell.ca/mms/wapenc
MMS Proxy: web.wireless.bell.ca:80
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I can confirm the Rogers Dream works with Telus also. It always shows as Roaming but still works fine, just have to enable data connection when roaming.
Telus' APN settings are:
TELUS SP:
APN = sp.telus.com
Proxy = 74.49.0.18
Port 80
Username = <not set>
Password = <not set>
Server = <not set>
MMSC = http://aliasredirect.net/proxy/mmsc
MMS proxy = 74.49.0.18
MMS Port = 80
MMS Protocol = WAP 2.0
MCC = 302
MNC = 220
APN type = default,mms
Also, anyone plannning to run CyanogenMod on their Dream or Magic should consider this tutorial for installation, it allows you to keep the 3.22.20.17 radio image that is stock on the Rogers phones and improves the data connection. There is also this bit of info that enables full UMTS support when running CyanogenMod.
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Any one else here using the HTC Diamond on Rogers network here in Canada?
I just purchased my Diamond a few days ago to replace my HTC 3600P. My 3600P connected to Rogers 3G network perfectly fine and I was able to get broadband speeds.
Now, with the Diamond I can only get GPRS (G icon on the phone) and Edge (E icon on the phone).
I am not sure if this had anything to do with it, but unlike the 3600P, when first setting up the Diamond it ask if I wanted the phone to auto detect the network and auto configure the phone. I selected yes.
In the phone settings under network tab, the network selection is set to Automatic. Under the Band tab, both select your network type and select your GSM/UMTS band is set to auto.
is my phone setup correctly, or is it that the Diamond doesn't work with Rogers 3G network only GPRS/EDGE? If this is the case now, could a ROM update fix this?
I really need broadband speeds on my work and am seriously considering returning the phone, as I specially asked the store I purchased it from here in Toronto if it would work on Rogers 3G network like my HTC 3600P and they said yes.
Current Diamond models (EU and Asia) do NOT support North American 3G bands. There was some talk from Rogers that the 900MHz band would be support but for now GPRS is as fast as you will get with your Diamond.
Just to add confirmation to what NikoL has said.
No 3G with the Diamond on Rogers.
Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated!
My question now is will my ASIAN/UK diamond ever work on Roger's 3G network? If yes, any idea how long this will take?
I really need broadband speed on my mobile phone for work. I still have my HTC 3600P which works fine on the Rogers 3G.
I am trying to justify keeping the phone or returning it.
Worth holding on to?
SkankAgent said:
Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated!
My question now is will my ASIAN/UK diamond ever work on Roger's 3G network? If yes, any idea how long this will take?
I really need broadband speed on my mobile phone for work. I still have my HTC 3600P which works fine on the Rogers 3G.
I am trying to justify keeping the phone or returning it.
Worth holding on to?
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To be honest buddy, it all depends on Rogers if they support that band that your missing. If they arent going to enable it on their network then you will never get 3G on the Diamond that you have now. So its a 50-50 chance they may or may not...probably better off asking them if you ring them. Im sure they will tell you if they have any intentions of enabling that band on their network.
Now if it was me, id return it and wait for the North American version which should be released next month hopefully. But this is me personally...im in the UK and i couldnt live without 3G myself...blazing fast on my nokia n95 8gb which i sold and at the moment im having to make do with GPRS because my nokia 8600 luna only does GPRS.
SkankAgent said:
Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated!
My question now is will my ASIAN/UK diamond ever work on Roger's 3G network? If yes, any idea how long this will take?
I really need broadband speed on my mobile phone for work. I still have my HTC 3600P which works fine on the Rogers 3G.
I am trying to justify keeping the phone or returning it.
Worth holding on to?
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What are you doing that requires 3g?
Edge and GPRS don't imped stuff like email sync, syncml, or minor web browsing.
If you need to use remote access like RPD or UVNC then sell the phone. Roger's isn't about to turn on 900mhz as that requires changing the match on existing infrastructure. It makes far more sense for them to push toward LTE tech rather then waste it on whats going out.
citats said:
What are you doing that requires 3g?
Edge and GPRS don't imped stuff like email sync, syncml, or minor web browsing.
If you need to use remote access like RPD or UVNC then sell the phone. Roger's isn't about to turn on 900mhz as that requires changing the match on existing infrastructure. It makes far more sense for them to push toward LTE tech rather then waste it on whats going out.
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I work in the streaming media industry, hence I definately require broadband on my mobile phone/device.
For now, I guess I will keep using my HTC P3600 which works perfectly fine on Rogers 3G and hope that the north amercian version of the Diamond will support Rogers 3G or on the tail end, that a ROM update for the Asian verision will 'turn on' the required freq to support Roger's 3G.
SkankAgent said:
I work in the streaming media industry, hence I definately require broadband on my mobile phone/device.
For now, I guess I will keep using my HTC P3600 which works perfectly fine on Rogers 3G and hope that the north amercian version of the Diamond will support Rogers 3G or on the tail end, that a ROM update for the Asian verision will 'turn on' the required freq to support Roger's 3G.
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I would imagine the N American version of the Diamond would support 3G in Canada...as for a rom update to enable the asian version that you have now to use 3G??..i doubt it very much as its a hardware issue. The diamond you have is missing that 3G attenna.
Spawn12 said:
I would imagine the N American version of the Diamond would support 3G in Canada...as for a rom update to enable the asian version that you have now to use 3G??..i doubt it very much as its a hardware issue. The diamond you have is missing that 3G attenna.
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You are correct about the ROM update. I called HTC Canada and confirmed this with their support department. I guess, I'll be putting my Diamond up for sale on ebay (as my local dealer refuses to take back the phone - last time I'll ever purchase from them, as I specifically asked about it working on Rogerrs prior to purchase) and wait for the North Amercian verision.. or see how the new 3G iphone stands up when it is released here on July 11th.
Hey guys,
I was wondering, which one of the different US providers would you recommend to use with an imported unlocked diamond2?
I'm currently with AT&T, and I'm having a lot of issues to connect to MediaNet... For some unknown reason, the phone looses its connection:
- every single time after either a reboot or using wifi
- on time to time, randomly without any specific reason
My main concern being: it's a pain to get it back! It takes several reboot and retry to re-setup the data connection.
I was wondering if some of you have actually experience better result with other provider or even with AT&T... (note: i m on a pay-as-you-go plan for phone and data)
Thanks,
Kandjar
I, too, am using Diamond2 with ATT and I'm ok with it. Granted, I've given up trying to use MediaNet on this phone but not really missing it.
I'm on T-mobile with the $5.99 unlimited data (T-Mobile Web). It's now $9.99 Web2Go if you are starting a new contract with limited data. Everything is working fine and the other day I got my email working on the diamond2 through the $5.99 plan.
No connection problems at all.
Same here with T-Mobile and the T-Zones plan, my call quality is pretty good with no drops & edge has descent speeds.
Wow, ok, once my pay-as-you-go expired, I'll definitively check T-Mobile!
AT&T data plan is slow and not very stable for me...
The main reason I need it is: mails!
I got so addicted to the 'read mail everywhere' plan, it's scary... When it doesn't work, it's bugging the heck out of me
I found in the 'phone setting' that it's possible to change the baseband; so instead of having them set to 'auto', I'm trying to force them to be:
'gsm' and '1900+850' to see if there is any improvements.
In any case T-Mobile does sound a lot cheaper...
I m currently paying $100 for 400 minutes (good for a year) and $20/month for 100MB... That's about $30/months.
Thanks for the replies
wbaez0320 said:
Same here with T-Mobile and the T-Zones plan, my call quality is pretty good with no drops & edge has descent speeds.
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Edge on T-mo has really good speeds here in CO. That's why I don't mind not having 3G. Soon enough manufacturers will be making quadband 3g handsets. I hope.
Any who kandjar if you need help with the data settings if and when you switch to T-mo just post up. If you search google for T-mobile wireless configurator you can get the settings by selecting any WinMo phone in the list ut you have to change some things.
Edit*
Disregard that last part about the configurator. The D2 finds the settings automagically for you. But you still have to change 1 or 2 things so it'll work.
That's cool, thanks!
By the way: does the youtube app work with T-Mobile?
It doesn't seem to work at all with AT&T...
Or does it only work with 3g?
kandjar said:
That's cool, thanks!
By the way: does the youtube app work with T-Mobile?
It doesn't seem to work at all with AT&T...
Or does it only work with 3g?
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Youtube worked on my Diamond2 with ATT. I don't have a data package with ATT, but I have wifi in my complex and I can watch Youtube on the Wifi.
As well as sending/receiving emails.
True, I should have been a bit more explicit..
I also managed to get it to work through wifi...
I m just wondering if this work with data plan (through medianet ...)
kandjar said:
True, I should have been a bit more explicit..
I also managed to get it to work through wifi...
I m just wondering if this work with data plan (through medianet ...)
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Yes it works fine on T-mobile edge. Maybe AT&T edge is a bit slow? IDK? This is on T-zones might I add. Not T-mobiles full web service. Who needs that with opera available?
Droid 4 On Rogers Wireless (Canada) - Incoming "Pay Phone" caller ID Solution
I recently got my XT894, Droid 4 in the mail, and hooked it up to Rogers Wireless in Canada.
When I was receiving phone calls, the built in dialer would tell me that "Pay Phone" is calling, the solution to contact the Rogers Customer Care, and have them remove the "Name Display" option.
Rogers has 2 services for call display:
Name Display (which does a phonebook lookup from Roger's Side)
Call Display (the number of the dialer who is trying to dial you)
Most motorola radios don't actually support these 2 features together, so Blur reads it as "Pay Phone". After contacting Customer Service, have them remove ONLY "Name Display". I restarted my phone then everything started working properly again.
I hope this helps someone!
First off, I wanted to say that I'm on the leak 6.16.206
I also got mobile hotspot working on Rogers (this solution may apply to other rooted users running on different providers).
I added the APN settings as defined originally here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20366961&postcount=2
Name: Rogers Tethering
APN: isp.apn
MCC: 302
MNC: 720
APN type: dun
otherwise, any other fields are showing as <not set> OR None
When I tried to add dun to the apn type, the moto UI told me only providers could add DUN types, so I went into SQLite Editor -> Phone/Messaging Storage -> telephony.db -> carriers -> Located the last APN which I added manually, scrolled over to "type" then long pressed that field, chose "edit field" and added dun. Once completed, I restarted my phone. I now have the stock mobile hotspot app working (I had to also disable the entitlement check earlier) on Rogers!
Now wait, you got a Droid 4 working on Rogers????
bean1975 said:
Now wait, you got a Droid 4 working on Rogers????
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Yup, no LTE though, just GSM HSPA
Sent from my XT894 running ICS
I can confirm that the Droid 4 works on Rogers. Took a week of fiddling, but it works.
Received the Droid 4 with 2.3.4 installed. Did the over-the-air updates to 4.0.4. Rooted it, installed SafeStrap 3, and installed Olegfusion's CM10/JB ROM (4.1.2), and was off to the races. Shows "E", "3G", and "H" when accessing the Internet.
have you ever try with stock kernel?
I wonder not to update to CM10 right now. I have a problem, it seems to connect, 3G/H letter, bu no tranmition. I have an old jaj, Droid3 working perfectly with same APN records.
Any thing that could help me??
danifunker said:
Yup, no LTE though, just GSM HSPA
Sent from my XT894 running ICS
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Please help... What does that mean?????
(I'm an imbecile about this stuff!)
heymon79 said:
Please help... What does that mean?????
(I'm an imbecile about this stuff!)
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LTE on this phone is not compatible with the Rogers network. If you want a Rogers LTE phone, pickup the Motorola RAZR HD. The phone will operate on 3G or 3.5G, although we in Canada consider HSPA+ to be "4G".
LTE can give you rates of up to 100mbps usually gives you about 25-30mbps
HSPA+ can give you rates up to 12-15mbps I usually get 4-5mbps
I hope that helps!
how hard is it to get Droid 4 to work with Canada (Rogers)?
Do u have to have unlock it and then update to ICS, and then you're all set?
imeem said:
how hard is it to get Droid 4 to work with Canada (Rogers)?
Do u have to have unlock it and then update to ICS, and then you're all set?
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The phone comes unlocked, you just have to load up ICS and throw on the Rogers APN (rogers-core-appl1.apn) and you're good. If you want to do some of the advanced features like setting up wireless tethering and stuff along those lines, you'll need root. I created a full Rogers how-to on droidforums.net, you can view it here :
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-4-general-discussion/224932-help-using-droid-4-canada.html
danifunker said:
The phone comes unlocked, you just have to load up ICS and throw on the Rogers APN (rogers-core-appl1.apn) and you're good. If you want to do some of the advanced features like setting up wireless tethering and stuff along those lines, you'll need root. I created a full Rogers how-to on droidforums.net, you can view it here :
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-4-general-discussion/224932-help-using-droid-4-canada.html
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so you're saying that all droid 4 are already unlocked?
Yes. They are still blocked against US GSM carriers but will work fine everywhere else, no locks.
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Maybe someone can help me, I'm on Rogers. I have this same issue on Stock ICS .217 and on CM10. I can make phone calls and send text messages, but I cannot receive either. When I put my sim card in to another phone, I start getting my text messages. Any ideas on how to remedy this?
Have you tried another SIM card in your phone? Sounds like you have something wired. I would also check to make sure you are in global mode on the phone.
Sent from my XT894 running CM10
BTW where did u guys get your droid 4 if you're from canada? from ebay?
imeem said:
BTW where did u guys get your droid 4 if you're from canada? from ebay?
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I got mine from xda but now that's closed...
Sent from my XT894 running CM10
eBay, yes.I got mine as "bad ESN" from a liquidator, it was quite a good deal. Obviously, by now you can find clean ESN versions for below $250.
Anyways, I am on Koodo/Telus. Under Mobile Networks Settings / Network Mode set GSM/UMTS and Select Network must be UTMS only, the default finds GSM which is weird because Telus AFAIK does not even have a GSM network! It has CDMA, HSPA+, LTE even iDEN but not GSM. Before I forced UMTS, phone calls worked more or less but mobile data rarely. Since I forced UMTS I get mobile data everywhere, inside buildings, all that -- I had lots of reception problems with Wind Mobile, Telus is infinitely better.
Terrible Reception on Telus (stock 217, -100dBm)
bean1975 said:
eBay, yes.I got mine as "bad ESN" from a liquidator, it was quite a good deal. Obviously, by now you can find clean ESN versions for below $250.
Anyways, I am on Koodo/Telus. Under Mobile Networks Settings / Network Mode set GSM/UMTS and Select Network must be UTMS only, the default finds GSM which is weird because Telus AFAIK does not even have a GSM network! It has CDMA, HSPA+, LTE even iDEN but not GSM. Before I forced UMTS, phone calls worked more or less but mobile data rarely. Since I forced UMTS I get mobile data everywhere, inside buildings, all that -- I had lots of reception problems with Wind Mobile, Telus is infinitely better.
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I went through the process today and got my stock Verizon 217 Droid 4 working on Telus. I verified the Telus APN settings, went through forcing GSM/UMTS and UMTS-only mode, but still have terrible reception: 1-2 bars, -100dbM. Any thoughts for getting better signal?
[SOLVED] DROID 4 Canada SMS/voice only, no data on Rogers/Fido - help!
SOLVED! see below.
Droid 4 from Ebay, $135 or something + shipping. Replacing my string of bad luck with i927's from smartphone_wholesale (aka Cell Phone Forever) on ebay (tho the 1st one they sent was great til i lost it).
SMS/Voice is fine but cannot do any cell data on it. Following all settings on fido's site for APNs the fido-core-appl1.apn doesnt work. Had to manually put it in (APN list was blank). Tried my wife's Roger's sim, it populated the APN list itself (4 of them, all combos of internet w or w/o MMS, and rogers +/- 'internet' in the name). None of them work either (they match what's in the fora here and on the rogers site, rogers-core-appl1.apn etc).
Im a bit of a newb: is my phone not unlocked properly or something? What gives? Radio is set to global or GSM/UMTS (CDMA doenst work of course). What's the solution here?
System version: 98.72.18.XT894.Verizon.en.US
Android Version: 4.1.2
Baseband Version: CMDA_N_05.25.00R LTEDC_UI_09.1D.00
Kernel: 3.0.8-g473e586
Build #: 9.8.20-72_VZW-18 Feb 8 13:11:57 2013
yes mobile data is on (and roaming set to yes but phone states it's not roaming now)
every time i've added apn's and saved i've rebooted (and rebooted twice with wife's SIM in too, in case settings had to go sim -> phone + reboot, etc). No luck any way ive tried.
Thanks for help.
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belay that request cadet!
Ok I just removed the wife's sim and put mine in, rebooted, and this sim (fido) doesnt populate the APN list. I was in the middle of inputting settings for it, hadn't finished and a buncha text+ came in and wifi is off (I saw I was on Edge, big blue E on status bar). Then before I could even react I had hit save, and data turned off.
Yep, removing "internet" from the APN 'type' works fine. Leave it blank.
W t f. Maybe someone can explain that shiz to me.
So it seems like a lot of people are having trouble getting 4G speeds with AT&T. After a couple days of back and forth with sales reps and tech support, I think I have it figured out. I'll try to make this an easy to follow guide.
Getting the Right Data Plan
First thing's first, you need to have a 4G data plan. To check which data plan you currently have, you can log into your account on http://www.att.com. After logging in, mouse-over the "Wireless" tab at the top and click "Add or Change Services." From here, you can scroll down and view the "Web, Text & More" section. This is what mine looks like.
Your data plan has to be a 4G Smartphone plan. If you are coming from a previous 4G phone, and you just popped in your old sim card WITHOUT calling AT&T, you should be all set and you can skip to the next section. However, if you DID call AT&T to give them your Nexus 4's IMEI, your data plan will default to "3G for Blackberry" or something similar. This is because the Nexus 4's IMEI isn't appropriated as a 4G smartphone in AT&T's system.
You have a couple options at this point. You can try to contact AT&T, explain it to them, and hope they give you a correctly provisioned data plan. This can be a quick and simple fix, and has worked for some people. However, it didn't work for me. After speaking with customer service over live chat, tech support over the phone, and going into both an authorized retailer and a corporate store, I was told that they can only provide 4G plans to AT&T branded 4G phones.
The solution to this is to give AT&T the IMEI number from one of their 4G phones. (NOTE: The only thing the IMEI does is tell them what type of phone it is, and what plans can be assigned to it. IT IS NOT LIKE A SERIAL NUMBER, AND AT&T WILL NOT CHECK TO MAKE SURE IT IS UNIQUE.) Find a friend with an AT&T 4G phone and note the IMEI number. You can quickly pull it up by typing *#06#. Then you can call AT&T customer service, tell them you have a new smartphone that you would like to get the correct data plan for, and give them the IMEI number you just copied down. (I told them I have an LG Optimus G, which isn't too far off I suppose )
Now you should have a 4G data plan.
Setting the APN
After you confirm that you have a 4G data plan, you have to set the correct APN. To get into the APN settings, go into your android settings, under "Wireless & Networks" go into More>Mobile Networks>Access Point Names. You can either select the menu button and create a New APN, or you can select the one already there and edit it to match the one below.
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APN Settings:
Name: AT&T HSPA+
APN: pta [COLOR="Red"](NOTE: IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN LTE PLAN, CHANGE THIS TO "PHONE")[/COLOR]
Proxy: Not set
Port: Not set
Username: Not set
Password: Not set
MMSC: http://mmsc.mobile.att.net
MMS Proxy: proxy.mobile.att.net
MMS port: 80 [COLOR="Red"](NOTE: IF MMS ISN'T WORKING, CHANGE THIS TO "8080")[/COLOR]
MCC: 310
MNC 410
Authentication type: Not set
APN type: default,admin,fota,mms,supl,hipri
APN protocol: IPv4/IPv6
APN roaming protocol: IPv4/IPv6
Bearer: Unspecified
Be sure to hit the menu button and save the APN, then select it in APN settings. If at this point you fail to get a connection, you most likely don't have a 4G data plan and should go through the steps in the first section.
Enabling LTE
This part is optional, but I see no harm in doing it. Type *#*#4636#*#* into your phone. This should open up a "Testing" settings screen. Go into Phone Information, scroll down to "Set preferred network type:" and select "LTE/GSM/CDMA auto (PRL)" from the drop-down menu. If you happen to be in an area with AT&T band 4 LTE, you will be able to connect to it. According to this thread, AT&T has band 4 LTE in the Oklahoma City area. If anyone else can confirm any other areas, maybe we can get an idea of how widespread it is.
Hopefully this has helped some people. Let me know if there are any inaccuracies or changes that should be made.
Does it have to be 4G LTE? Mine just says the same thing, but 4G. They set it up in the store, as well, but they set it up as my old SGS2, which has 4G, but not LTE.
I have galaxy s3 with LTE data plan so so when I get my nexus , I just need to set up apn . Thats it right.
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yahoowizard said:
Does it have to be 4G LTE? Mine just says the same thing, but 4G. They set it up in the store, as well, but they set it up as my old SGS2, which has 4G, but not LTE.
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No, it doesn't have to be LTE. You should still be able to connect to the HSPA+ network. You only need the LTE plan if you want to try to connect to the band 4 LTE network in the few areas AT&T has it.
So what are the speeds with this?
I do want the LTE network, so I guess I should call and get that changed. However, nothing works at all, no data, no HSPA, nothing. I guess 4G plan isn't valid.
NO LTE in St. Louis
adi_scorpios said:
I have galaxy s3 with LTE data plan so so when I get my nexus , I just need to set up apn . Thats it right.
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Right, all you would have to do is put the sim card from your GS3 into your Nexus 4. It should set the APN automatically since it's already a 4G plan, but you can always double check.
BennyJr said:
So what are the speeds with this?
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This would depend a lot on your area. I seem to be getting 8-10 Mbps in a HSPA+15 coverage area.
grandfathered
Dose anyone know if this will negatively affect a data plan that is grandfathered unlimited. I don't want them to mess that up.
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I do want the LTE network, so I guess I should call and get that changed. However, nothing works at all, no data, no HSPA, nothing. I guess 4G plan isn't valid.
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Try changing the APN setting from "pta" to "phone". I believe pta is the setting for the LTE plan, and phone is the setting for the regular 4G.
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Dose anyone know if this will negatively affect a data plan that is grandfathered unlimited. I don't want them to mess that up.
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I think you only stay grandfathered unlimited if you don't change your plan at all. I have the 2GB plan that is no longer available, and on the "Add or Change Services" page it tells me that if I make any changes I won't be able to revert to my current 2GB plan. I would assume it's the same for all discontinued plans.
i have grandfathered unlimited data from an old iphone 3gs plan...here is what it says on att's website:
Data Unlimited SmartPhone Personal
Data Plan for SmartPhones. Unlimited domestic data usage. Only available for upgrades. Requires customers to be on a "Gold List" Data Unlimited SmartPhone Plan prior to upgrade to 4G device.
so is this considered "4G"? i live outside of philly and the fastest i've ever gotten on speedtest was around 6 mbits/sec...99.9% of the time it's between 1 and 3 (this is on my galaxy s 2).
ppeklak said:
i have grandfathered unlimited data from an old iphone 3gs plan...here is what it says on att's website:
Data Unlimited SmartPhone Personal
Data Plan for SmartPhones. Unlimited domestic data usage. Only available for upgrades. Requires customers to be on a "Gold List" Data Unlimited SmartPhone Plan prior to upgrade to 4G device.
so is this considered "4G"? i live outside of philly and the fastest i've ever gotten on speedtest was around 6 mbits/sec...99.9% of the time it's between 1 and 3 (this is on my galaxy s 2).
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As far as I know, they label all the 4G plans as such. What are your APN settings? If it's wap.cingular, I'm pretty sure that's 3G.
smalovic said:
As far as I know, they label all the 4G plans as such. What are your APN settings? If it's wap.cingular, I'm pretty sure that's 3G.
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Mostly correct -- I was under the belief the wap.cingular isn't able to achieve HSPA+ speeds (I was only able to get 1mbit up and down). Someone else in a different thread told me that they were connecting at HSPA+ speeds on wap.cingular. So it turns out APN's alone aren't directly indicative of what plan you have. However, being able to connect on either "phone" or "pta" APNs is pretty much a guarantee your plan is provisioned correctly as those are the APN's used for HSPA+ as well as LTE.
Here's my exact post from the other thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34778373&postcount=19
Also an in-depth APN rundown here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34824948&postcount=116
smalovic said:
The only thing the IMEI does is tell them what type of phone it is, and what plans can be assigned to it. IT IS NOT LIKE A SERIAL NUMBER, AND AT&T WILL NOT CHECK TO MAKE SURE IT IS UNIQUE.
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It may well be true that AT&T don't check that an IMEI is unique, but actually it IS a unique serial number ....
smalovic said:
So it seems like a lot of people are having trouble getting 4G speeds with AT&T. After a couple days of back and forth with sales reps and tech support, I think I have it figured out. I'll try to make this an easy to follow guide.
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So far only updated the APN, and I was on the wap.cingular, with a grandfathered data plan. My Speedtest results after the APN change is now DOUBLE my wifi connection speed via DSL. I'm outside city limits South of Holland, MI, and getting 7-9Mbps now. I can't wait to go up to Grand Rapids where I know ATT has a very robust 4G network and see what I get there.
So would LTE on AT&T work with the non-smartphone unlimited data plan?
Does AT&T even pick up the nexus 4 as a "smartphone"?
Thanks
4ktvs said:
So would LTE on AT&T work with the non-smartphone unlimited data plan?
Does AT&T even pick up the nexus 4 as a "smartphone"?
Thanks
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It appears some people who are in AT&T LTE coverage where AT&T does not have 700MHz licenses are getting LTE over the AWS frequencies (the same ones used in Canada). The Nexus 4 only appears to have LTE operable on AWS. There's more about it in this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021173
It's unlikely LTE would work with the non-smartphone data plan as those require the "pta" APN, which is only accessible on LTE plans.
Atlanta here.
I double checked to make sure I had my settings right, according to the OP.
I'm not getting the LTE symbol in the status bar (only H) and getting 8-10 MBPS down according to the speed test.
I assume that's still HSPA+ for the Atlanta downtown area. (By GA tech)
AT&T iPhone 4S SD Chip to N4 - 4G Compatible?
I am switching over from an iPhone 4S to the N4 and cannot get 4G data speeds (actually the best I can get is sub 2mb/sec). My old APN was wap.cingular and I beleive I was only getting 3G data with the iPhone; however, at some point AT&T started calling my service 4G and that is what would show up on the phone. Can anyone confirm that the iPhone 4S to N4 switch will require me to take the IMEI route to get the AT&T 4G speeds. Thanks for the help.
Awesome IFL
Anyone successfully connect to the old cingular apn? It won't let me get a 3G data connection (I get signal bars with an exclamation point on the icon). If I force 2G, it will fully connect to edge. Then if I select 3G as my preferred network type the signal icon switches to 3g then H and then back to the exclamation point all very quickly. I have tried a couple apn settings without any luck. Since I'm getting service, but it won't give me data, is there something baked in the phone not allowing me to connect? I can put the sim in my old phone (optimus g) and it connects fine.
I can connect to the normal "nxtgenphone" apn but I don't want to right now.
any help or thoughts on this would be appreciated
isnt cingular the old tmobile? cingular doesnt exist anymore from what i understand, so you cant expect to connect to it.
Cingular is ATT now.
knitler said:
Cingular is ATT now.
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yup, you are right. you should probably use an att apn from what i just read about cingular.
simms22 said:
yup, you are right. you should probably use an att apn from what i just read about cingular.
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I can connect to the att apns, but my download speed is a whopping 0.5 Mbps. Connecting to cingular apn, which I can do with my old phone, at least gets me back into 3g speeds.
Are you on an lte provisioned account? If so the older apn's are locked out. Att did this because of the ability to bypass the throttle restrictions when on an unlimited plan. As far as the apn that works for 2g, that's probably the mms network.
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Check the attached screenshot for the APN settings, even though its called ATT. Its worth double checking. Otherwise, two things should happen - find your old phone and get them to reprovision your account to work with the old APN, or troubleshoot with them and find out why you're getting such **** data speeds.
http://apn-settings.com/us/att-apn-settings/
Are you on an older unlimited Nation plan or Family talk plan with unlimited data? If so, your speeds are being throttled after surpassing 3gb. Those download rates are tell tale. AT&T has blocked APNS other than NXTGENPHONE for those using a capable LTE device for the reasons mentioned above . If you were to change the APN to regular 3g ATTPhone or Cingular WAP. Your account is auto provisioned to reduce speeds.
Yeah throttling is the issue. Just strange I can go through cingular with a different lte capable phone.
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technid said:
Are you on an older unlimited Nation plan or Family talk plan with unlimited data? If so, your speeds are being throttled after surpassing 3gb. Those download rates are tell tale. AT&T has blocked APNS other than NXTGENPHONE for those using a capable LTE device for the reasons mentioned above . If you were to change the APN to regular 3g ATTPhone or Cingular WAP. Your account is auto provisioned to reduce speeds.
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Using a Family Share Plan I had connected via the default AT&T APN. I believe it was AT&T "phone" APN. However, I recently switched to my company provides AT&T Corporate Mobile Share Plan, and I had to switch my APN to AT&T "PTA" APN in order to get LTE to work. This is what I'm currently using on my Nexus 6. AT&T's NXTGENPHONE APN did work for me when I was running the 5.0 Developer Preview on my Nexus 5 on the AT&T Corporate Plan. However I lost the settings for it. Does anyone have a listing of the APN settings for it? I would like to compare speed tests.
Nevermind, got it from source
<apn carrier="ATT Nextgenphone"
mcc="310"
mnc="410"
apn="nxtgenphone"
type="default,mms,supl,fota,hipri"
mmsc="http://mmsc.mobile.att.net"
mmsproxy="proxy.mobile.att.net"
mmsport="80"
/>
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