Poor GSM radio Reception - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

I've just bought a new HTC TYTN II and I'm running it side by side with my O2 Orbit, both have an O2 SIM installed and are forced to connect on GSM only.
No matter where I go with the two phones, the TYTN II has always 2 bars less than the Orbit regarding reception.
I notice that the TYTN ii sometimes seems to loose connection and then re-establish at random times.
Im currently running the general release from HTC (ROM 1.56.405.5 - Radio 1.27.12.11), but i'm keen to try Helmi's cooked versions.
1. Do Helmis 070 versions use newer Radio code?
2. Are there any known problems with the Radio on this device?
Cheers

OOPss
Sorry, don't you just hate guys like me........
I submitted the query without doing my homework first..
To summarise the resuts I found.
1. There is no real fix for this issue
2. Radio .....17 doesnt really appear to fix the issue
3. Forcing Radio Band to GSM/UMTS instead of Auto makes no noticeable difference
4. Everyone is awaiting a new release from HTC....don't hold your breath
5. HTC support is complete crap.
This is so annoying, that I upgrade my phone thinking and expecting things to be better in every way, but instead I would still rather use my very stable, but slow, O2 Orbit (running BB4.2 ROM - Superb)

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Upgrading from 2003SE: Which rom to use?

I am interested in upgrading from 2003SE. I have a PDA2K with the versions specified in my signature. Here's what I do with my device in order of importance:
1. Phone
2. Bluetooth headset for phone usage (Motorola HS850)
3. PDA sync with Windows/Outlook for calendar, email, etc
4. GPRS for IMAP email reading, downloading of pocket weather info, etc.
5. TomTom with a Bluetooth GPS
6. Solitaire / games
My current device is fairly stable and does not require a reboot more than about once a week. The phone functionality works well and I can hear the other person, they can hear me, etc. Bluetooth isn't great, but I don't think anyone with this device can say it is great.
I am an experienced user/upgrader and can perform all upgrade steps, I just don't want to have to muck with it on a regular basis once it's upgraded. I'd like to stick to every-six-months type of upgrade cycles.
That being said, what is currently the best upgrade ROM in terms of speed, functionality, and most importantly stability? I have read many posts and can tell which is the NEWEST, but not necessarily which is the most stable.
Thanks in advance.
-RJB
I think that the best rom for you is T-Mobile 1.42
For the things you want to do the fastest speeds you can gain with 2003 SE, WM5 does not meet your requrements for OS
You can always choose difrend rom from here
T-Mobile 1.42
the T-Mobile 1.42 ROM does it have to be a stateside pda? or can it work on my unlocked QTEK9090 that i bought here in italy. And will it work when i got back to the states in a few years?
It will work everywhere, only problem with uprading that you may have is that you may have to flash the rom using MaUpgradeUt_NOID, which disables the check for an operator
Interesting
Interesting, so you think an upgrade to the T-Mobile W2K3 ROM is better than moving to a WM5-based system, such as TuMa 1.4? I was hoping the WM5 stuff was stable enough to use on a daily basis.
I'll check out the T-Mobile and a radio upgrade since I have fallen behind in that area. I'd like to hear more thoughts about WM5 and the various versions out there.
Thanks for the responses.
The T-Mobile 1.42 ROM is from t-mobile.nl, so it loads in dutch on first start up but is written in WWE so you just go into the regional settings and choose whatever language you want.
I have found it to be very stable, I do a soft reset maybe once a week and that is usually just to regain the sd slot, it tends to say empty even though there is a 1gb card in it.
Only problems I seem to have with this are the BT doesn't like to turn on, you get the insufficient memory error, so I leave BT on all the time, and the wifi usually requires a soft reset to enable, which for me is ok because I do not use it that often.
I have not had to do a hard reset since upgrading to this ROM, it has been so reliable for me that I am very hesitant to upgrade to WM5. I just don't think I would gain anything from upgrading. though I am sure i will eventually.

How to fix Radio (3G) not working (voice calls, data)

My original HTC (Radio 1.27.12.11) never was able to recieve or create voice calls via 3G nor do any data transfer. Only GSM mode was working, but then for what reason I was going for the Kaiser ?.
Thanks to Pof's work on the HardSPL tool and Dark Simpsons "htc rom tool" and all others contributed to this tools, using the posted french ROM with Radio 1.27.12.17 and the rest from the original HTC rom I compiled a new ROM image.
With this Radio rom I just confirmed that 3G is now working using voice and data. All former 3G problems are gone.
Steps:
- Downloaded original HTC rom and French rom
- Using "NBHextract.exe" to extract the rom components.
- Using the "00_unkonwn.nb" from the french and the rest from the original HTC rom and compile using "htc rom tool" a new rom.
- Now using HARD SPL to install new boot loader and then just transfer the new rom using the original HTC upgrade package with the new rom instead the original one.
Regards
can you post your rom ?
dauphinas365 said:
My original HTC (Radio 1.27.12.11) never was able to recieve or create voice calls via 3G nor do any data transfer. Only GSM mode was working, but then for what reason I was going for the Kaiser ?.
Thanks to Pof's work on the HardSPL tool and Dark Simpsons "htc rom tool" and all others contributed to this tools, using the posted french ROM with Radio 1.27.12.17 and the rest from the original HTC rom I compiled a new ROM image.
With this Radio rom I just confirmed that 3G is now working using voice and data. All former 3G problems are gone.
Steps:
- Downloaded original HTC rom and French rom
- Using "NBHextract.exe" to extract the rom components.
- Using the "00_unkonwn.nb" from the french and the rest from the original HTC rom and compile using "htc rom tool" a new rom.
- Now using HARD SPL to install new boot loader and then just transfer the new rom using the original HTC upgrade package with the new rom instead the original one.
Regards
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can you post your rom ?
rom location
Just replace the rom in the HTC_WWE rom-installer with this one. Worked for me without any problems with Kaiser got from UK, but no warrenty
http://rapidshare.com/files/61052345/RUU_signed_WWE_1.56.405.5_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.17.zip
Update: After 24h using 1.27.12.17, problems just partly vanished
Looks like it was a bit too optimistic. Here are the results of 24h usage:
-3G voice and data are sometimes working. With the 1.27.12.11 it never worked with 1.27.12.17 it work for some calls / times and then 3G still looks like logged into the 3G-Network, but phone is unreachable. The phone needs to be switched off/on again to get it working. Then one call / data connection / incoming call is possible. After that darkness again. At least one 3G action is possible in comparion to earlier radio rom, but it is still far away from perfect.
It is an improvement but HTC has still to do a better job with the radio rom. Hope we will get an update soon behind 1.27.12.17
dauphinas365 said:
Just replace the rom in the HTC_WWE rom-installer with this one. Worked for me without any problems with Kaiser got from UK, but no warrenty
http://rapidshare.com/files/61052345/RUU_signed_WWE_1.56.405.5_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.17.zip
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thanks, I'll give it a try in a few days.... as to warrenty - HTC appears not to honor warrenties, HTC US said "not our problem", HTC UK has not answered in over a week....
If yo can live with french try the french rom
... now I run for 24h with the french rom, no customization.
It is better then the HTC with the replaced Radio, posted above. I can call 3G, do data connections and receive incoming calls. It seems after 24h pretty stable. Therefore it looks like changing the radio is not enough and that as the french rom using a slightly newer OS then HTC original, there are some changes too included.
- Problem: Roaming between GSM and 3G, somtimes the phone needs 5 or more minutes to login into the network again after areas with no coverage. Completly different to the Nokia N95, which can handle such issues with no problem @ all
- About HTC service. I called them too and they tried to direct my to a service partner I should pay for getting my problems solved, that is very different to what I understand about warrenty too.
I would be really thankful for anyone who could produce a Radio-only flash available using the French .17 Firmware.
The stock .11 radio ROM is completely, I mean really completely useless for me. Any time I try to write a SMS, make a phone call or data connection my Kaiser immediately loses the connection to the network and I have wait for the phone to reconnect itself. I also cannot receive any incoming calls.
I remember that the first radio ROMs for the Hermes were terrible but this is even worse. Too bad because I'm really enjoying the rest of my Kaiser so far.
It is not only the french radio rom .17 ..
I have done lots of test and added above a rom HTC with french .17 radio stack. But there is more then then just the radio. It is better with the mixed rom, but still not good to use it as a reliable phone.
Best what you can do is using the french rom and you get a 50% chance that 3G works incoming and outgoing.
I'm rather new to creating my own cooked ROMs so I'm right to think if I want to upgrade my Kaiser to the .17 Radio ROM, the only thing I need to do is create a .nbh file from "02_Unknown.nb" and flash the resulting nbh file using CustomRUU and my Kaiser will not be completed formated?
I'm asking this because my Kaiser is now perfectly configurated and personalized and I don't want restart install all my programs, I just want to try the new Radio ROM because the current version is completely useless.
Thanks for any info
well disregard my previous post, I just successfully flashed my Kaiser with the new Radio ROM and hopefully I will actually be able to call someone with my PDA phone.
Hi all, first I have to say that I'm in Dublin Ireland using vodafone and have my kaiser for about 3 weeks now and the most odd thing about that would be that it has been working fine 3G and 3.5G when within good coverage. All of a sudden last sunday it just stopped working with 3G I believe that network provider just changed something with its settings but I can't be sure. I would love to see a radio update soon but since I don't believe in miracles I've been trying some temporary workaround just to be able to call and text. It seems that it enough to go to settings -> phone -> network and set the BAND TO GSM. This way it doesn't use 3G but at least I can use the phone. Hope it could help anyone there.
Thanks for the info, I'll try that eventhough the .17 Radio Update did improve network connection somewhat but it's still subpar.
FYI, I was last Saturday in Dublin, eventhough only for an hour, and of course I tried my Kaiser but the 3G data connection completely refused to work. This was when I still had my .11 Radio ROM installed.
So far I have tried my Kaiser in London, Malpensa, Madrid and Berlin so the issue seems to be rather ROM related than provider related.
you're right, it has nothing to do with the provider I was wrong. I took my card from Era Poland with roaming and turned on my Kaiser. On O2 I had two bars on HSDPA and that beautiful H letter on the top of the screen but not possible to make a call, send sms or whatever. Switching to gsm always works. I upgraded to .17 and it looks exactly the same as it was I see no difference at all. The only thing that bothers me at the moment is that for me it's been working fine for some time. I've been using 3g in Dublin and Warsaw as well and for some reason it just stopped I just hope it's not any hardware issue.
Is this rom posted on #1 a radio only or the whole thing?
I have the same problem over here. I have the Tytn2 for one month now. I had vacation and i took the plane at Amsterdam (Schiphol) to Tenerife.
When i arrived in Tenerife i get a 3G icon and cannot make calls and cannot internet. I had manually switch to GSM band. Now back in Holland with auto-settings i have the same problem again. With 3G i can do nothing (call/internet). Anyone any idea?
I have a vodafona abbo, my simcard in the old tytn1 with same settings works well at 3G. Soon i call with htc!
Same problem here with HTC Tytn II in Holland on T-mobile,
switched 3G to GSM and luckely I can use the phone now,
but I really hope there will be a fix soon!
Thanks!
Same on AT&T
I'm having the same problem with my tilt. I had the 3G before the flash but have not had it since.
same her in nyc ...tried both radios....3g doesnt work....help....please
A hard reset does NOT fix the 3G call/internet problem
When i switch the telephoneband from auto to GSM the phone get's connected at G and i can call. But i want videocall.
Please someone ? Defect or waiting for rom ?
I too am experiencing this problem. It happened overnight one night -- 3G will not connect -- neither voice or data, but GSM (edge) works fine.
I'm on ATT, HardSPL with Schaps 4.22 rom. It was working fine in this configuration, then suddenly stopped. Tried Hard reset (no help), and tried upgrading the radio to .17 (also no help). Next step is to try and revert to original ROM/Radio/Bootloader (per "how to restore to factory for rma thread") to see if that helps.
If anyone comes up with a solution, I'd be grateful.

No signal or signal is very poor - need help

Hello to all!
First I want to notice that I'm smartphone / ppc user for more than 3 years so I think I have good experience. Before posting I spent hours and days trying to find solution for my problem.
Second, my device info (when I bought it)
SWISSCOM XPA v1405
ROM: 1.14.166.1
Radio: 1.05.02.00
BREE100
IPL- 0.90
SPL-2.05 (Now SPL-1.9.0000)
CID-VODAP110 (info 2, HTCSVODAP110IqpÞHTCE)
Now, problem description:
Last week I bought two mobile phones Swisscom XPA 1405 (one for me and second for my colleague who is newbie in world of windows smart phones).
Since I bought them I realized that one of them often search for network when network signal is not EXCELLENT. At the same place one have signal second don't have or signal, or signal is poor, no bars, just one signal dot and provider name can be seen on display. Also I wasn't able to switch band to GSM or when I switch it to GSM device freezes. After that when I turn on phone again I don't have any signal.
I tried to solve problem with refreshing original Swisscom firmware - I found link in one thread from this site (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395426)
But after that nothing good happens, radio version is newer but signal is still very poor.
After that i tried flashin my phone with other radio roms I found on this site. I was able to install only two versions
Radio Update: Radio Only 1.38 Radio Only 1.54.30.10 (I found those links in section for FutureShock's WM 6.1). When I try to install any other radio I often receive error invalid id etc. I must notice that I used SPL 7.77 and that my phone was application unlocked before I attempted to flash it (all steps for unlocking was passed successfully).
One more notice: phone is in very good condition, so I think that my problem is not hardware related.
I don't have idea what else I can do. maybe to copy whole radio & OS rom from second device which is working excellent?? Is there way to do that? I read about that for other devices but I don't know how to do it for my phone. Is that safe to do?
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I bought phones from guy who sells second hand phones. I have only his number, which now is not available, so I couldn't return my phone
Yes I'm fool but I must live with it. Now I hope I will find solution, with your help, for my problem or my phone will gather dust in the box waiting to be dissembled for spare parts =================================================================
Thank you in advance and best regards!!!
maybe your phone have some hardware problems! repair it !

Annoying sluggish behaviour - T-Mobile MDA Vario III

I have a T-Mobile UK, MDA Vario III and have to say for me personally this is the best "all-rounder" of the MDA Vario phones I've had so far. I also use phoneAlarm v2.10 (latest) to assist in making profiles on the phone easier to switch between.... one gripe though (and I don't know WHY this happens)...
I'm in the middle of writing a text, or even generally using the phone, and it decides to just stop working for about 5 seconds. All screen and keyboard response just stops! Then it kicks back in again. Very annoying!
Does anyone else have this problem, seen it, or even better still, do they have a fix for this? By the way am also using the default WM6 Pro CE OS 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2) that came with it from T-Mobile UK.
yeah i have a fix for your problem, which i suffered from too when i had a mda vario III: flash a new rom!
i am currently running duttys wm6 dualtouch v4 and it is so much better than the t-mobile rom. it has fixed so many issues that i had just taken for granted a permanent problems. Trust me it is like buying a newer better phone, but for free!
creed said:
yeah i have a fix for your problem, which i suffered from too when i had a mda vario III: flash a new rom!
i am currently running duttys wm6 dualtouch v4 and it is so much better than the t-mobile rom. it has fixed so many issues that i had just taken for granted a permanent problems. Trust me it is like buying a newer better phone, but for free!
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Really? Sounds good. Let me see where I can get this from and see the issues. Are there any issue with duttys though? (he says being the old sceptic).
And most importantly what's the battery life like? I got rid of "HTC Home" which chomped battery power like crazy, even using just GSM and not HSDPA.
There were no big issues for me. One thing I did have a problem with was I didn't hard reset the device after flashing the new ROM. This caused a few problems. Once I had done this they went away. The device is alot quicker. One issue I have found is that I can't change the cube icons. A little gripe but no other problems with this ROM otherwise.
Hi bennyb0y,
I had the same problem on this machine. I eventually tracked down my problem to the BBC 24 custom template I was using with Spb Traveler for weather - it was using most of the cpu time! Solution - use another template.
Regards,
Paul
I had the same problem with my vario III and the best thing I've done to date with it was to update to Sleuths ROM. It's damn fast, not buggy, doesn't crash, has all the features you could want and the best thing is, it was so simple to do. Just read the wiki to unlock etc, then follow Sleuths easy instructions. The ROM is called someting like "so many ROMS so little time" V3.0 (or somthing like that).
It does what it says on the tin.

HTC Tytn II freezes few seconds

Hi all,
First of all, let me wish you all a happy 2009
Since a few days my HTC Tytn II freezes sometimes: During several seconds I can't select items using the Stylus.. Even if i tap several times, nothing happens. It usually freezes for 2-3 seconds, not more.
I'm using the 6.1 ROM. I already tried a hard reset, and even without any additional programs installed, the problem occurs every now and then.
Anyone has an idea?
-moose
I've had this happen to me as well, but thought it normal just because of the OS being Windows. Sorry I don't really have an answer I'm learning all this stuff as well but did want to at least acknowledge your not the only one with this as an issue.
ok, but is it exactly what I'm experiencing? It's not always the case, only sometimes.. And I can't tell beforehand when it's going to happen actually.
I don't have lots of programs open when the problem occurs..
Par for the course with HTCs WM 6.1 'upgrade'
I had that problem with the HTC supplied WM 6.1 upgrade ROM (along with general unreliability and poor GPS performance). Reverting back to the WM 6.0 ROM/Radio/SPL seems to have cured those issues. Now the only problem I have is an occasionally laggy keyboard (or if I install the laggy keyboard fix here on xda-dev, then occasional pausing during media such as video and mp3 playback - haven't figured out how to solve both). I suspect your pausing is associated with radio/reception activity. Try turning it to flight mode as a test and see if it still occurs (not that the device is much use like this, but it will pinpoint the cause).
HI,
Thanks for reply. Do you know if there's an official (supported by HTC) way to revert back to the old windows?
I indeed upgraded recently to 6.1, and it seems that problems started after the upgrade.
You could complain and get HTC to do it
moose_man2008 said:
HI,
Thanks for reply. Do you know if there's an official (supported by HTC) way to revert back to the old windows?
I indeed upgraded recently to 6.1, and it seems that problems started after the upgrade.
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If your phone is still under warranty then just speak with the HTC Repair Centre for your area (in the UK they're in Milton Keynes). In my case because the GPS under WM 6.1 wouldn't work properly (and I was having the other problems you described), when I told them I needed a prompt solution they offered to revert it for free. After booking it in through their call centre, I left it with the repair centre in the morning and it was done at the end of that day. No there is no official way to do it yourself (even though one HTC call centre staffmember tried to tell me there was - the RUU package he referred me to was only for upgrading from even older WM 6.0 ROMs or reflashing over the same WM 6.0 setup, not reverting back from WM 6.1). There are unofficial ways as per instructions in the wiki so if you're not near to one of their repair centres (or object to the delay/costs involved with postage), then thats an option but make sure you know what you're doing first.
Assuming you have a European WWE HTC branded TyTN II, the setup in my sig seems to be working pretty well here in the UK.
The cure for this is to use the kaiser unlocker and unlock your phone. You will probably have to re-flash your radio after that but this fixed it for me. I only experienced after upgrading to 6.1.
punkhawaiian said:
The cure for this is to use the kaiser unlocker and unlock your phone. You will probably have to re-flash your radio after that but this fixed it for me. I only experienced after upgrading to 6.1.
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I don't think thats an issue associated with any lock on the phone (although perhaps a lock may make it worse). My HTC branded TyTN II came totally unlocked to start with and after the WM 6.1 upgrade the problems came, after reverting to WM 6.0, they went - the solution seems simple to me if people can get past the 'against the grain thinking' of using an 'old' ROM for greater reliability.
Flying Kiwi said:
I don't think thats an issue associated with any lock on the phone (although perhaps a lock may make it worse). My HTC branded TyTN II came totally unlocked to start with and after the WM 6.1 upgrade the problems came, after reverting to WM 6.0, they went - the solution seems simple to me if people can get past the 'against the grain thinking' of using an 'old' ROM for greater reliability.
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I will confirm that this is happening on a HTC Branded unlocked TyTN II. I have had no experience with 6.0 on my TyTN II, as my phone came with 6.1 installed and exhibits the above mentioned behavior.

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