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HTC ROM 6.1 : the Kaiser freezes all the time !!!

Hello again, I have this big problem with my Kaiser :
since I installed the last HTC 6.1 ROM update, my device randomly freezes for 10-20 seconds.
I also noticed that my devices sometimes slow down ...
Does anyone else have this problem ?

The solution : Downgrade to WM6 !

I think I've found where the problem is :
since I stopped using "Quick Menu", the Kaiser does not freeze anymore ...
That means this is another usefull application I will have to stop using with the HTC 6.1 ROM !!!

Sorry but I don't know what is Quick menu...

vertpoulpe said:
Sorry but I don't know what is Quick menu...
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If you don't know it, that means you didn't install it on your Kaiser. So your freeze problems were not coming from this application. Sorry ...

The biggest bug i've been with wm6.1 : my kaiser soft reset alone all the time ! Maybe they're drunk when they're built this rom lol ! They should have write : THE MAGIC FUNNY WM6.1 RELEASE WITH GHOST TOUCH !

I disabled Weather tab and contacts tab with HTC home customizer. It seems to work well now. I will see if problem has really gone. Thank you for your help Dizzy. You gave a direction to my searchs

You're welcome ... But I use HTC home mainly for its contact and weather application ... So it's not a solution for me.

I noticed that orange france users had problems. Perhaps it is linked with our SIM CARD...

do you really need to post two threads on this?
I thought about using HTC's rom, but instead, i used dutty's lite rom, and built it up myself with what i wanted. Its a hell of a,lot faster, i wouldnt touch another oem htc rom ever again, they are full of rubbish, and slow as my old wizard

Finally I discovered that the problem didn't come from "Quick Menu", but from "HTC home" !!!!!
HTC home does slown down my Kaiser and is responsible for randoms freezes of it !
If I disable "HTC home" on the today setup screen, then everything is faster (start menu display ...).
I re-installed Quick-menu and now my Kaiser is working fine.
I will have to replace HTC home by a clone application ...

I haven't had any issues with my Kaiser freezing with the 3.28.405.0 WWE ROM, but then I haven't used ROM that was oficially released by HTC. Instead I've been using the one that was leaked out a couple of days before the official release.
Is it possible that the official ROM image is corrupted in some way? I've noticed this post over in the Kaiser ROM Development forum, which was posted today:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2234850&postcount=356
grusy said:
Called HTC today.
I'm not the only one having trouble with 6.1. They said in the next two days there will be a "new" version available.
The file we could download now is corrupt and they will upload a non corrupt version. Supposedly the file was corrupt by uploading to ftp server
I think they will release a patched version.
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I've installed the official (English) rom I got from someone in the UK (there is none for TYTN II from Hong Kong being used in the USA as of yet ) and loved the idea that all I had to do is just install ( No hard SPL ) and everything seems fine. I have a lot of apps. installed and everything is fine.

I upgraded to the leaked ROM and have had nothing but Freezing problems !!
I turned off HTC home and this seemed to do the job...for about 12 hours and then wouldnt you know it, its slow again.
I did a hard reset and turned everything off, used Kaiser tweaks to change the cache options and its still not right.
I feel badly let down by this product. I upgraded from a blackberry 8800 which ran like a dream, no problems. I've always been alittle sceptical about Windows Mobile Products. I've owned many PDAs in the past and have always felt that they were always compromised. My Dell Axim X51v was a good PDA but too bulky to carry around. I've always been someone who wasnt bothered by Windows Mobile Devices because of their windows hang ups. Seems I was proved right, though I know this isnt necessarily a Windows thing, more likely a HTC thing....it still doesnt help !
I needed a product that offered, office apps, with internet and the ability to FTP easily at high speeds either over WiFi or 3g. The Vario III had the lot including imense flexability which made me give up my Blackberry (which was a big thing, trust me as I adored my blackberry,,,it was just alittle limited).
After having purchased HTC's almost flagship model I've feel totally let down, they knowingly shipped a product that was flawed and then released a dodgy fix that affectively made the device worse (for some of us!). Freezing all the time. When it wasnt freezing it was a pleasure to use...but seriously, i'm 5 weeks into using it and I'm absolutely pee'd off. I seem to be constantly looking for fixes all the time !! my wife thinks I've become bloody addicted to it, she wont listen when i tell her I'm trying to fix it. it always seems to be in my hand !! (the kaiser that is )
That blackberry of mine is going to be taken out of the box and this paper weight will be used as just that.
gutted man
Ste

You need to remove the HardSPL application from your Kaiser in order to stop the freezes ... Take a look at this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394783
It works ... Guaranteed !

Yes, the HardSPL is your problem, not HTC.

I tried the official htc e-club 6.1 and had lots of freezing issues. It would just freez for 20 seconds or so then start working again. Drove me crazy. I off-loaded it and re-loaded dutty's 6.1 hybrid and am very happy with it. Very stable, no more freezes either. I also reloaded mobile shell and found it to work much better than with the old 6.0. The memory issues, leaks etc. I had with shell on 6.0 seem to have become almost non-existant with this rom. And did I say batt life is heaven . I'm stickin' with what works for now.

I have the problem that Activesync is automatically turned on when I start the phone and it makes alot of problems but when I turn it off it usually solves it - anyone know how to fix this?

cbreze said:
I tried the official htc e-club 6.1 and had lots of freezing issues. It would just freez for 20 seconds or so then start working again. Drove me crazy. I off-loaded it and re-loaded dutty's 6.1 hybrid and am very happy with it. Very stable, no more freezes either. I also reloaded mobile shell and found it to work much better than with the old 6.0. The memory issues, leaks etc. I had with shell on 6.0 seem to have become almost non-existant with this rom. And did I say batt life is heaven . I'm stickin' with what works for now.
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I have the e-club 6.1 and am experiencing the same freezes. Really annoying. I think there is a pattern that when I turn off the phone, the freezes go away.

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I have the problem that Activesync is automatically turned on when I start the phone and it makes alot of problems but when I turn it off it usually solves it - anyone know how to fix this?
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I had a similar issue where Activesync would start running on my phone every so many minutes, when looking in the task manager it would be running. I fixed that by running task manager v2.8 from Fdcsoft you can download it from here http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm with that go to notification and disable replog.exe (AppRunAfterTimeChange). This does not affect active sync working when connecting to a pc or with push email.

MDA C4 - Stock Rom problems - time to flash?

Just got the diamond on t-mobile currently:
ROM : 1.37.110.3 WWE
Radio: 1.00.25.03
Prot: 52.26a.25.09U
Id love to get after this stock before flashing with anything else so I can put it back if I need to!
So heres what Ive done so far and whats not great.
Added the manilla black .cabs (why did they boof it all by doing it in pink in the first place!)
Added the missed calls touchflo tab.
A few reg hacks as from this forum - not all.
So far:
- Struggles to connect back up (browser) to 3G after using my wireless connection.
- Sometimes loses the connectio to the network completey and cant reconnect with t-mobile without power down/up
- Start bar dissapears sometimes and needs power down/power up to get it back.
- touch flow is slow sometimes....annoying slow.
- dont get my favourites added to the browser touch flo menu?
Im still getting my head around WM6.1...so other annoyances:
- When I click on a test message in touch flo it goes straight into reply and also with threading....Ive seen the reg edit to diable threading but can you force it to just open the sms from the touch flow screen or does it have to drop straight into reply.
Ive been reading around here for a few days and although I didnt want to flash the beast yet....Im kind of fed up enough to either flash it or send it back. I like some aspects of it...the soft qwerty is ok but leaves you with little room to see anything else and its defo slower that normal keypad.
So Id love to here from people who have had this stock and since flashed something else and would like to tell me how great the phone is now.
Im not so fussed about the t-mobile branding of the browser but it would be nice to be able to get just to opera from the touchflo tab and also my startpage rather than theres..
Ive searched and read a lot - Im after anyone who has seen any of this and also recomendations of fixes including..'flash this it will make you want to keep the puppy'
Its almost brilliant.
I know replying takes time so I appreciate anyone who cares to share with me. Great forum.

neilsupermac999 said:
Just got the diamond on t-mobile currently:
So Id love to here from people who have had this stock and since flashed something else and would like to tell me how great the phone is now.
Im not so fussed about the t-mobile branding of the browser but it would be nice to be able to get just to opera from the touchflo tab and also my startpage rather than theres..
Ive searched and read a lot - Im after anyone who has seen any of this and also recomendations of fixes including..'flash this it will make you want to keep the puppy'
Its almost brilliant.
I know replying takes time so I appreciate anyone who cares to share with me. Great forum.
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I'd say flash it! I had the same device and it seemed slow and buggy to me. I contemplated sending it back and going to the iPhone, but I bit the bullet and flashed Swiftblades ROM. The difference is amazing, everything seems to run that bit smoother and TF3D is now usable. It is a pain having to tweak the device so it fits your needs for some people, but for me that's half the fun!
I've put loads of tweaks and apps on, some good, some not so, and it may be time for a hard reset. What the hell, I may even flash a newer ROM! (Once you've done it once, there'll be no stopping you.... it is nerve wracking the first time mind )

burnso said:
I'd say flash it! I had the same device and it seemed slow and buggy to me. I contemplated sending it back and going to the iPhone, but I bit the bullet and flashed Swiftblades ROM. The difference is amazing, everything seems to run that bit smoother and TF3D is now usable. It is a pain having to tweak the device so it fits your needs for some people, but for me that's half the fun!
I've put loads of tweaks and apps on, some good, some not so, and it may be time for a hard reset. What the hell, I may even flash a newer ROM! (Once you've done it once, there'll be no stopping you.... it is nerve wracking the first time mind )
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Did you manage to get hold of the stock ROM so if it doesnt look good then you can return it back to how it was?
I assume swiftblades rom has the manilla black and all the original HTC diamond touchflo features like youtube and the web browser debranding (i.e. loading opera without all the t-mobile favourite rubbish). Does it also have the favourites from the browser on the t-phone internet tab?

I was also on this ROM when i got my T-Mobile C4 and i can say that even with tweaks it was so awfully slow i was worried that it would continue to be this slow. I finally updated the ROM to Panosha 1.7 (very very very fast & has all the features you need, including t-mobile internet settings) and updated to the .05 ROM which definately improves my 3g & gprs.
In terms of getting the new T-Mobile stock rom, i haven't seen it been published yet but i can imagine it will get dumped and uploaded here very soon as T-Mobile have their Compact IV's back in stock so it's just a matter of time before someone get's hold of one
In terms of bugs and memory leaks in Panosha, there seems to be very few like all the other ROMs and i would say if you're gonna to change to an unsigned ROM, go to this one or Dutty's, because they are pretty much the same!
Hope this helps a little bit, any more questions then just ask

Addicteddddd said:
I was also on this ROM when i got my T-Mobile C4 and i can say that even with tweaks it was so awfully slow i was worried that it would continue to be this slow. I finally updated the ROM to Panosha 1.7 (very very very fast & has all the features you need, including t-mobile internet settings) and updated to the .05 ROM which definately improves my 3g & gprs.
In terms of getting the new T-Mobile stock rom, i haven't seen it been published yet but i can imagine it will get dumped and uploaded here very soon as T-Mobile have their Compact IV's back in stock so it's just a matter of time before someone get's hold of one
In terms of bugs and memory leaks in Panosha, there seems to be very few like all the other ROMs and i would say if you're gonna to change to an unsigned ROM, go to this one or Dutty's, because they are pretty much the same!
Hope this helps a little bit, any more questions then just ask
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Thanks for the info :O) I was actually thinking about getting hold of the current stock rom 1.37.110.3 WWE to revert back if I have some probs. Ive seen today that someone has posted a link and orange have released 1.93.x.x from HTC. Im a bit nervous about flashing but Ive looked at a lot of the guides and read them over...do you just have to flash the rom and radio?
..thenm after hard reset you get a pucker manilla phone minus all you own apps/settings/messages etc.?

yep, just make sure you flash Hard SPL first, searhc around for a program called PimBackup if you want to backup all your contacts/calls/messages etc though message threading doesn't save but that's no biggie!

Addicteddddd said:
yep, just make sure you flash Hard SPL first, searhc around for a program called PimBackup if you want to backup all your contacts/calls/messages etc though message threading doesn't save but that's no biggie!
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Im guessing you dont have a copy of t-mobile stock rom? Im just thinking that should this phone break at some point then without the stock rom then the warranty is probably invalid.....funny because I can find every other stock apart from the t-mobile one Ive got....

I didn't have a copy of the stock ROM, I just went for it. Someone else on the forum reckoned the first thing that happened when it gets sent back is the flash the latest ROM anyway.... it was good enough for me!
The HardSPL means you are unlikely to brick the phone though a dodgy ROM install, so if that goes on OK, you're laughing

I didn't have a copy of the rom at the time, however there are copies at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406327
This is my backup just incase it needs to go back

So...T-Mobile reckon they have a ROM update that will be released 'within the next 2 weeks' according to the support guy I spoke to last night....probably be a 1.93.x.x variant I suppose.

Thats great news....
Only trouble is, they are renowned for all talking utter ****e!

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Thats great news....
Only trouble is, they are renowned for all talking utter ****e!
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Yep. However orange have just released 1.93.x.x and from the discussion I had they have a lot of unhappy cmpct4 owners and its a flagship handset for them.
They could do them selves a favour and de-brand for us and save themselves some time as well. Id love to know what the guys that decided to do a white and pink TF3D are getting paid to come up with that idea...muppets.

Opinion on improvements to MDA Compact IV (diamond)

I've got my girlfriend one of these. She's used to Windows Mobile, but is struggling with the TouchFLO interface. I think this is because it's a little sluggish.
I've removed the antivirus software which has sped it up a bit. I'd like to turn off the TouchFLO completely and go to the old Today menu to see how she gets on with it, but I can't find out how to turn it off.
Do people generally turn off TouchFLO or try to improve it?
You're opinions would be very helpful.
Thanks
Mike

I'd try one of the custom roms. After giving up in disgust on the T-Mobile ROM (eugh, pink AND slow) I've installed the 7.5 SwiftBL ROM and TouchFlo is MUCH more responsive (plus no longer pink). Maybe worth a try?

echolock said:
I'd try one of the custom roms. After giving up in disgust on the T-Mobile ROM (eugh, pink AND slow) I've installed the 7.5 SwiftBL ROM and TouchFlo is MUCH more responsive (plus no longer pink). Maybe worth a try?
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Agree with this, went the same way. As long as you have a little bit of technical knowledge you should be fine, but make sure you read the guides in detail first!

The T-Mobile ROM is rubbish - based on the initial version of the HTC ROM (version 1.37) which HTC have admitted is flawed and buggy and have since updated. T-Mobile, however, have so far chosen not to upgrade their version of the ROM (while all other providers have). Also, the anti-virus software they have included is a joke as there are no feasible viruses that can affect Windows Mobile (yet at any rate). You might as well uninstall it for the good it does.
I would concur with the other responses - if you have made the mistake of buying a Compact IV (and I believe it IS a mistake) then ditch the T-Mobile ROM in favour of a SwiftBlade or Dutty ROM and make sure you upgrade the radio as well (again, the T-Mobile included version is crap).
When I moved from T-Mobile to Orange to get my Diamond, T-Mobile claimed that the Compact IV was the Diamond and comparable to it - well, frankly it isn't and until they sort their act out, it won't be.

mtcs said:
I'd like to turn off the TouchFLO completely and go to the old Today menu to see how she gets on with it, but I can't find out how to turn it off.
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You really didn't look very hard did you?
Start->Settings->Today->Items tab; uncheck "TouchFLO 3D"

Thanks for everyone's views/opinions.
regards
Mike

HTC Tytn II freezes few seconds

Hi all,
First of all, let me wish you all a happy 2009
Since a few days my HTC Tytn II freezes sometimes: During several seconds I can't select items using the Stylus.. Even if i tap several times, nothing happens. It usually freezes for 2-3 seconds, not more.
I'm using the 6.1 ROM. I already tried a hard reset, and even without any additional programs installed, the problem occurs every now and then.
Anyone has an idea?
-moose

I've had this happen to me as well, but thought it normal just because of the OS being Windows. Sorry I don't really have an answer I'm learning all this stuff as well but did want to at least acknowledge your not the only one with this as an issue.

ok, but is it exactly what I'm experiencing? It's not always the case, only sometimes.. And I can't tell beforehand when it's going to happen actually.
I don't have lots of programs open when the problem occurs..

Par for the course with HTCs WM 6.1 'upgrade'
I had that problem with the HTC supplied WM 6.1 upgrade ROM (along with general unreliability and poor GPS performance). Reverting back to the WM 6.0 ROM/Radio/SPL seems to have cured those issues. Now the only problem I have is an occasionally laggy keyboard (or if I install the laggy keyboard fix here on xda-dev, then occasional pausing during media such as video and mp3 playback - haven't figured out how to solve both). I suspect your pausing is associated with radio/reception activity. Try turning it to flight mode as a test and see if it still occurs (not that the device is much use like this, but it will pinpoint the cause).

HI,
Thanks for reply. Do you know if there's an official (supported by HTC) way to revert back to the old windows?
I indeed upgraded recently to 6.1, and it seems that problems started after the upgrade.

You could complain and get HTC to do it
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HI,
Thanks for reply. Do you know if there's an official (supported by HTC) way to revert back to the old windows?
I indeed upgraded recently to 6.1, and it seems that problems started after the upgrade.
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If your phone is still under warranty then just speak with the HTC Repair Centre for your area (in the UK they're in Milton Keynes). In my case because the GPS under WM 6.1 wouldn't work properly (and I was having the other problems you described), when I told them I needed a prompt solution they offered to revert it for free. After booking it in through their call centre, I left it with the repair centre in the morning and it was done at the end of that day. No there is no official way to do it yourself (even though one HTC call centre staffmember tried to tell me there was - the RUU package he referred me to was only for upgrading from even older WM 6.0 ROMs or reflashing over the same WM 6.0 setup, not reverting back from WM 6.1). There are unofficial ways as per instructions in the wiki so if you're not near to one of their repair centres (or object to the delay/costs involved with postage), then thats an option but make sure you know what you're doing first.
Assuming you have a European WWE HTC branded TyTN II, the setup in my sig seems to be working pretty well here in the UK.

The cure for this is to use the kaiser unlocker and unlock your phone. You will probably have to re-flash your radio after that but this fixed it for me. I only experienced after upgrading to 6.1.

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The cure for this is to use the kaiser unlocker and unlock your phone. You will probably have to re-flash your radio after that but this fixed it for me. I only experienced after upgrading to 6.1.
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I don't think thats an issue associated with any lock on the phone (although perhaps a lock may make it worse). My HTC branded TyTN II came totally unlocked to start with and after the WM 6.1 upgrade the problems came, after reverting to WM 6.0, they went - the solution seems simple to me if people can get past the 'against the grain thinking' of using an 'old' ROM for greater reliability.

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I don't think thats an issue associated with any lock on the phone (although perhaps a lock may make it worse). My HTC branded TyTN II came totally unlocked to start with and after the WM 6.1 upgrade the problems came, after reverting to WM 6.0, they went - the solution seems simple to me if people can get past the 'against the grain thinking' of using an 'old' ROM for greater reliability.
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I will confirm that this is happening on a HTC Branded unlocked TyTN II. I have had no experience with 6.0 on my TyTN II, as my phone came with 6.1 installed and exhibits the above mentioned behavior.

Vario III flased with HTC 6.1 Rom - Slow Rotation

Hello,
I flashed a T-Mobile MDA Vario III with HTC latest official rom (WM 6.1) and now screen rotation on slide out / in is much slower. Sometimes it takes up to 4 seconds.
Any ideas?
Best Regards,
Craig Brass

I can't really point to a solution with the ROM you're using; in fact I'd be willing to guess that it's just a side-effect of that particular ROM - I don't imagine the Radio ROM in your device not being best-suited for the OS ROM would deliver slow screen rotation as a side-effect.
All I can say is that I recently flashed to AthineOS and EVERYTHING is quick on it. Screen rotation when sliding occurs within a second I'd say - it might be slightly over a second, I haven't timed it, but either way it's very quick, and quicker than the T-Mobile WM6.0 ROM...
Anyway, hope you get it sorted... Let us know if you find a solution for your current ROM.
Regards,
Rob.

T-Mobile considerations
I seem to recall HTCs fix for this in their HTC Branded WM 6.1 'upgrade' involved more than just the ROM but if the radio and spl are going to be upgraded as well, people need to make sure there are backups of the originals first because in some countries (and Craig didn't say where he's from or fill in that part of his profile), T-Mobile use customised versions and special network configuration. Perhaps a T-Mobile customer can comment whats reqd from experience? I haven't tried searching but I suspect that'd pull something relevant up as well.

Ok, I flashed with AthineOS as suggested. Nearly perfect. Couple of things :-
1. I flashed the official dialer for the voice calling. Before, when launched, it would show Contacts as the left button. Now it shows Hide Keypad. How do I get it to show Contacts again?
2. TouchFlo 3D shows the calender list but when clicked it launches the default phone calender app. I have Developer One Agenda One Installed and I want it to launch this. How do I do that?