My female socket on the phone has a curious bend, like an upside down U shape, and will not power of motorolla chargers and from normal USB cables via PC?
Is yours flat and nomral, in which case I am screwed (or TMobile UK is)
Thx for a heads up, I am travelling without my original adapter?
Sounds about right...
the mini-usb ports look like an almost complete rectangle with the right corner (if you're looking at it screen facing up) curved round
sort of like
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If that makes sense
within that gap in the middle is the actual connection "bit" which looks like a
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even better, have a look at this http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2004/1357/mini_usb_ports.jpg
that describes it exactly the way it should be.
As far as I know, motorola chargers are different voltage and I know as someone who does phone repairs, moto chargers have messed up many windows OS phones - to the point that we make sure moto chargers are not sold as a replacement for Windows OS phones.
I guess the question is:
1. what do you mean it does not charge? Does it fit but not light up to say its charging?
2. does the charger fit at all?
on some cases, I have known people to break the connector off, or bend the surrounding frame (my first attempt at the drawing)
My pins are not quite straight:
They look like:
like yours execpt that the middle two pins seem to pop up and the two on the extremeties seem to pop down...weird. Maybe busted!
The photo you sent is of the older phones, I have My hermes here too and that one has a perfectly flat pin as you described. My Kaizer has this slight bend like a U upside down, but a bend for sure not straight,
I take yours has no bend?
My pc-connector cable fits fine, all usb cable fit, but no power.
I am lacking my original chager as in London I used my hermes charger.
I guess if yours has no bend in that contact area mine must be damaged.
Even after straightening it out, no power at all
Take a photo of it and link to it here?
Btw, if it is indeed a factory flaw, you shouldn't "straighten out" anything, but take it to the repair shop.
Here's a pic of my tilts USB. it looks different than my 8125s. My friends kaiser looks the same as this.
OK, probably screwed
Mine looks identical except for the bend, so it must be bust as no cords seem to work and no other party power supply.
My Hernes charges on all that I gave found, this thing is blocked.
Moral of the story: Don't buy Kaizer, get the phone operator model as they will send the replacment in 24 hrs.
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I tried to soft reset my tytn II in the dark, and accidently put the stylus into the usb/charging slot and somehow screwed up my phone. It will not charge, or connect with my computer. Any suggestions?
OMG! I did the same thing, but luckily i didn't do further damage except the copper parts become bent
HTC should have done something about this! i am sure many other users did the same
can u take it back to your supplier for warranty claim?
same problem here...
i could bend back the copper contacts with a WOODEN (!!) toothpick (dont steer around with metal in there....)
Looks like i tried to reset the device in darkness last night and fumbled around in the usb jack.
Damn... really bad position for the reset-button!
Same issue here-- though some chargers now work, some don't. My phone will charge with my OEM charger and usb to computer, but not my 3rd party wall charger or my car charger. Aaargh
Same Problem Here
Check out this thread at AT&T Forum regarding my attempt to get a replacement phone.
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&thread.id=65536
I got mine replaced at the store. I was under 30 days and was lucky.
I am going to order one of these:
http://www.eforcity.com/silicone-mini-5-pin-plug-for-motorola-v3-2-pc-smoke-cmotv3xxpc01.html
it should fit. i also heard that certain verizon phones have rubber usb plugs on them. I may just stop in a verizon store and see if one fits. My tmobile wing had one on it and it worked great to protect the usb port.
Well...I did the samething last night. Tried to soft reset my phone while driving in the dark. Luckily I've had my tilt less than 30 days, called and now all I have to do is go to the AT&T store for a replacement....Also, I'm going to pay 10% restocking fee so I can get an extra battery and charger...W00T!!!!! I actually saved about 50 bux
One way to avoid doing this in the dark is to flip the phone upside down, locate ExtUSB socket with your left index finger, keep your finger over the socket and slide your stylus down your finger tip. Of course the easiest way is to turn a light on.
wizzzard said:
One way to avoid doing this in the dark is to flip the phone upside down, locate ExtUSB socket with your left index finger, keep your finger over the socket and slide your stylus down your finger tip. Of course the easiest way is to turn a light on.
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true, but for those of us with this problem already, it is too late
Luckily, I tried a newer charger, and my car charger, and they both work. As far as connecting to my computer, I have to use my Y cable that was included with my old 8525. I'm still pissed, and I have a TyTn II and not a tilt, so warranty will be a pain in the ass, considering I have to send it to the UK. If it starts to act up, I will have to send it in, and if I get it fixed, I will definitely buy one of those plugs from the above post. Thanks for all the replies, and good luck to everyone with this problem.
Lesson # one don't put things in holes in the dark in bed
Well, good news is ATT is sending me out a replacement phone for free since I am still under warranty (outside the 30 days, but inside the 1-year). Now I just need to re-flash back to OEM status so I don't get busted on the return...time to test out the "Idiot's Guide to Re-Flashing Back to Original ROM" and see if it does me right.
Heijdemann said:
Lesson # one don't put things in holes in the dark in bed
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that's why I have so many kids!?! anyways I had my phone charging in my car and it fell of my seat onto the floor. the nezt day I noticed it wasn't charging (tytn 2 no easy warranty fix) I then noticed that inside the usb thing is a black plastic piece with the small metal connections. the black piece was bent a little on one side so I removed the battery took a pair of tweazers and bent it it straight again than I took some forced air in a can (for a computer keyboard) and blew in there to make sure none of that cheap plastic shredded and got in the way of the metal connections. it looked like after I used the tweazers some of that black plastic chipped off (very small pieces) anyways after that it worked perfectly. hopefully this will help others
well it seems i messed up now and stuck my stencil in there one of the small Metal wires is out of whack now ad some chargers work and some dont did anyone get a plug yet?
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so I live in metro detroit with a tytn 2 not a tilt. after I stuck my stencil in there it seems my car charger don't work. when charging with my audio adapter its flaky losing some power, maintaining, gaining some power. but when I use my wall charger with no adapter it charges!! if you put the kaiser flat on the table I see by 2nd wire (in the hole) is bent down(whereas the others are up) and its sitting in the middle of the whole.(my buddy told me to use a needle and a magnify glass because the 2nd wire was actually bent all the way down but I got it in the middle after messing with it. when that one wire was out of whack my car charger gave me a red constant light (no charge) after the stencil incident. I hope all that helps somebody! anyways so I call HTC first they tell me that's not covered under warranty. Then they tell me I have to send it to houston tx for 3 weeks. Then they tell me it will cost $300 usd to repair!!!! this is insane for a little miniusb piece that got hit once with a stencil. it probaly cost 22cents. what is everyone else doing? I think if I can get that metal piece to stick to the top it'll be fine. I just switched to att and I have 6 days until im locked to a 1yr contract I could buy a tilt for 250 or whatever but id have to sign a 2yr contract.
I stuck the stylus in the USB port as well but luckily I didnt seem to do any damage. I did bend it a bit but with some gentle pressure in the opposite direction it went back into place. I havent had any problems charging or syncing since then, so it seems I got lucky. Just gotta hope I dont do it again, lol.
ya the black piece as a whole seems to be able to bend a little but if u mess the little little metal connections in there you're gonna have problems
Hi, this is my first post and I hope to help someone. I had the same problem with my phone, it charged with the home charger and in the cradle but the car charger won't work. using a close light and a magnifier I could notice that with the phone with the screen upside looking at the usb connector that the pin al the way to the right was flat and a tip was showing as opposite to the others. I returned it to the former position and voila!! it works. I hope to help someone.
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***If this does not belong here I appologize, and feel free to move this if necessary. I just figured the development community is most likely to take this "upgrade" on***
After seeing that someone used Palm's wireless charger on their non-palm phone; I decided to put one on my Droid Incredible.
***This was done to a completely stock Dinc. I did not use any special back, and the stock back gets to stay on (unlike in the other video that I saw)
Wireless Charging the Droid Incredible
**Disclaimer: This will void your warranty, and if you solder something wrong will probably break your phone. With that said I can in no way be held accountable for anything that occurs while performing this “upgrade” to your phone.
>>>>If anyone knows where I can buy that little void sticker that you will see in a picture below, please let me know! If we can get that sticker then our warranty is not voided by doing this.
Supplies:
1.Palm touchstone charger http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/handheld/categories/palm/4/accessories/FB300AA%23AC3
2.Palm touchstone phone back http://www.shopping.hp.com/store/product/product_detail/FB306AA%23AC3?
3.Micro USB cable
4.Soldering Iron (the finer the tip on this the better)
5.Torx T6 screw driver
6.Safe pry tool (or a small flat head screwdriver)
7.Very tiny insulated wires (I just pulled mine out of a USB cable that I cut up)
8.Electrical Tape
9.[Optional] Multimeter to test that you actually made a good connection
How To (Images are of a higher quality (12mp) so I had to stick them in zip files to get them on here):
1.The palm touchstone phone back has a sticker inside of it that encases the wireless charging receiver, so you need to peel this off. Once it is peeled off it will look like this (without the wires soldered onto it):
(Images can be seen in: Palm Receiver.7z)
2.Remove the battery cover and the battery then unscrew the back from your phone (please view a tare down video for details, there are plenty of them on you tube that I used for a reference.)
1.All you need is a torx t6 screwdriver and a safe pry tool, I used a small flat head screwdriver and it worked just fine. Unscrew the 4 screws around the sides and then carefully pry off every place that the battery cover clips on, as they also hold on the red back.
(Images can be seen in: Dinc Inside.7z)
3.Solder on some wires to the USB connector as shown in the below image without soldering onto the pins next to them. This is difficult and takes some time and patience, since these connectors are very small and close (note the polarity in the image, notated in red).
A.Also it is necessary to place a piece of electrical tape over the components right next to the connector (Green box in the image) as they will short out the power and make it impossible to charge your phone if you do not (I found that out the hard way and went back and fixed it).
B.One final note here is that I had to melt down the red phone backing inside to allow the cables to get past the case. See the green rectangle in the image above for where I had to do that. I just used my soldering iron and melted it down, it makes a pretty nice indention for the wires to fit through.
(Images can be seen in: Dinc USB.7z)
4.Now push out the rubber plug in the red phone backing next to the USB cover (this is encircled in Green in the image from step 2).
A.Run the cables that you just solder on through that so that they are sticking through to the battery compartment on your phone.
B.You can also stick on the palm receiver to the inside of your phone cover (note the direction and placement, as this is necessary to close your cover).
3.Note that I placed electrical tape over the wires. This was necessary to keep them from breaking off of the USB connector since the solder points are so small.
(Images can be seen in: Almost Done.7z)
5.Solder on the wires to the palm charger receiver and you are done. Now you just need to carefully place the wires towards the middle of the phone so that you can close the back of your phone entirely (this is another reason why the wires need to be small).
A.Note the polarity of the connection.
B.Also I put a piece of electrical tape over the connections on the palm charger receiver to protect them (not shown in the image).
(Images can be seen in: Wireless Charger.7z)
Here is a video of the end product and how it works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOMVJ-vmWpg
Also I just verified that my compass is working without any problems.
This could be truly amazing. I can't wait to see more.
ThugEsquire said:
This could be truly amazing. I can't wait to see more.
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Its been done with the Evo, but don't know anyone who did it with the Inc.
http://www.goodandevo.net/2010/06/h...rk-with-palm-touchstone-wireless-charger.html
Sounds really nice. Not gonna try it with mine because I'm too scared
Though shouldn't this be in accessories or general?
What are you doing to align the coils? My biggest concern that's kept me from this is the magnets also would mess up the compass sensors readings which I for one actually value.
Wow, you managed to bring me out of my months of silence in posting...
I feel honored that I can get you out of your months of silence
The coil alignment is handled by the magnets inside of the palm touchstone charger itself (the base unit that plugs into the wall). The metal objects that you can see in the "Palm Receiver.7z" file are actually not magnets, but small circular pieces of metal that get pulled towards the charger base when you get them close to each other. So when you have the phone off of the charger, there are no magnets to mess with anything
Also you will notice that there is a piece of metal behind the coil, and that seems to block the inductive signal all together (because I tried to put it on backwards to no avail). Therefore your phone is mostly protected from the inductive transmission.
The only thing that I noticed, is that the touchscreen on the phone is a little weird when it is on the charger, but I see the same side effects when plugging the phone into a "non-htc" charger (before performing this "upgrade"). **I also saw this on my Moto Droid when connecting it to a 1 amp charger, and I have seen this with multiple other touchscreen devices so I think it just has something to do with the frequency of the charger.
Also in case of any concerns: MY PHONE HAS IN NO WAY BEEN DAMAGED BY THIS "UPGRADE"
pianoplayer said:
Sounds really nice. Not gonna try it with mine because I'm too scared
Though shouldn't this be in accessories or general?
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Yah, it probably should be, and may get moved (which is perfectly fine by me). I put it in here because I am a developer and much more likely to do this, so I figured the development community would be more interested.
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This could be truly amazing. I can't wait to see more.
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You mentioned that you can't wait to see more....?
What more would you like to see? I am happy to add to the posts, but just not sure what further details you would like to see.
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Also in case of any concerns: MY PHONE HAS IN NO WAY BEEN DAMAGED BY THIS "UPGRADE"
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I trust your method, I just don't trust my shaky hands
BTW there is a multi quote button so you dont have to do a separate post for each reply
I have a rubber case on my Dinc... would I need to remove it for charging?
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Yup.... The ones yoe momma told ya about.... Bad Seed Customs!!
I think you will be ok if it is one of those thin (about 1mm thick) rubber cases. Anything thicker than that and you would probably have to install the wireless receiver on the case itself and remove your battery cover all together.
I tested a thin rubber case that I have (no more than 1mm thick I think) that fits a Droid Eris and it charges as long as its flush to the back of my phone.
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Wow, this is amazing, very well done. I think this is the first hard mod I've heard of for an Android. I guess gold cards were a sorta gray area.
I've had my Incredible modded to work with a Touchstone since around June of last year. It works great, but I must caution anyone thinking of doing this to be VERY careful. Experience with soldering and a steady hand is a must. One could fairly easily mess up their phone attempting to do this.
Could you do this with a powermat if you wanted to? I have a few laying around I could use.
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Paul600k5 said:
Could you do this with a powermat if you wanted to? I have a few laying around I could use.
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Sure, if you wanna take apart one of those generic receivers and try to fit it inside your phone!
nevetsvsx said:
You mentioned that you can't wait to see more....?
What more would you like to see? I am happy to add to the posts, but just not sure what further details you would like to see.
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What I originally meant was pictures. But now that you've added them and I've seen the glory, this mod is really quite impressive and I'm thrilled you shared it with us. But now that I think about it, could this also do USB wirelessly? That would be pretty amazing.
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What I originally meant was pictures. But now that you've added them and I've seen the glory, this mod is really quite impressive and I'm thrilled you shared it with us. But now that I think about it, could this also do USB wirelessly? That would be pretty amazing.
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No, the transmission of data wirelessly is achieved through modulated EM waves. This is simple inductance: a changing electric field creates a magnetic field, a changing magnetic field generates an electric field, so a current carrying loop placed near another loop of wire will induce current in the other loop. The receiver in the phone is engineered to "create" the "proper" amount current to charge your battery when combined with the base. In theory yes, but not with this equipment.
How does the phone treat a USB cable being plugged in - will it charge ok, and have your data transfer rates been adversely effected? I wouldn't think so, since you're only touching the power...
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How does the phone treat a USB cable being plugged in - will it charge ok, and have your data transfer rates been adversely effected? I wouldn't think so, since you're only touching the power...
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I have used the USB charger and data transfer cables without any problems at all. Also I have copied some files off of my phone to my PC since the "upgrade" and did not notice any extended times or anything that would remotely make me think something was wrong.
I did not run a speed test before and after to see if anything slowed down, but as you said we are only touching the power pins, so I highly doubt anything has changed.
So I plugged in my cradle attached to the watch, waiting for the charging sound and flashing battery icon... nothing.
I reckoned the cable might be loose, nope. Maybe the cable is faulty (it's a bit old but longer than the supplied one) Changed it... still no go.
Maybe the charger has developed a fault, swapped it for another Samsung one I have... still no charging.
Must be the watch or cradle, undid the cradle slightly, snapped it back together.. still not charging.
So I took it apart again and only then did I notice the cradle was the wrong way round!!!
How it's possible to do this is a bit of a design flaw. But at least it was down to me and not the hardware. I just thought I would share this dumb story with you in case it happens to you one day
Hi, I did the same thing just on the first day of use - good thing is that by reversing the watch there is no way to spoil anything, so no worries.
There is probably no point in making special "key" just remember which way to put the watch into the cradle.
I wonder how to design the power connector on the watch to allow to use just standard micro-usb cable - I think that it is not so easy, especially if we are talking about IP55 and for future GEAR II - hopefully IP68 - connector must be well protected against water ingress as it will keep the water inside when it gets there...
all rubber plugs and gaskets and so on are useless if we talk about true water tightness.
Do you have that to? It's a tiny tiny bit loose all four directions. Original cable. No problem with the connection. Its snug when inserting and pulling out.
Checked with my Samsung S5. It has more play, so I guess it's ok.
That's by design.
As long as the connection is good, there's nothing to worry.
Thank you! That's relaxing to know.
Remember the standard USB plugs, and when you try to plug them in, they get caught on the housing, but you think you put them the wrong way and rotate them, just to notice they're actually the wrong direction now?
That's to prevent that.
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Remember the standard USB plugs, and when you try to plug them in, they get caught on the housing, but you think you put them the wrong way and rotate them, just to notice they're actually the wrong direction now?
That's to prevent that.
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Yes, all too good. Why the S5 wireless charging is great! Wireless charging doesn't matter very much with the XZ1C because of the USB-C.
Have ordered Wsken magnetic cables to be on the safe side. The USB on my Acro S went broke a long time ago.
I had a magnetic cable, but it stuck out too much for my taste.
Tried to modify it so that it goes in further, but destroyed it in the process.
I'd love to have a flat one, tho.
Was is Wsken? It has great reviews on Amazon. Cannot order from Amazon. Doesn't ship to my country, so I ordered from Ebay.
Flat magnetic cable? Got to check that.
https://imgur.com/a/hhlTgw8
I'm super happy with the results
I bought a more expensive wireless USB type C charger that I thought would charge faster, since it was advertised as a 2000 mah (On amazon, it was gold), but once you open it up it seems to be the same cheap 1000 mah ones.
I did this because my phone is getting old, and I cracked the back glass, and I figured, while I'm inside... I might as well do it.
I had a blast, and I'm super happy with the results, it charges slow, but it works! and I can keep using my wired charger!
Syndor said:
https://imgur.com/a/hhlTgw8
I'm super happy with the results
I bought a more expensive wireless USB type C charger that I thought would charge faster, since it was advertised as a 2000 mah (On amazon, it was gold), but once you open it up it seems to be the same cheap 1000 mah ones.
I did this because my phone is getting old, and I cracked the back glass, and I figured, while I'm inside... I might as well do it.
I had a blast, and I'm super happy with the results, it charges slow, but it works! and I can keep using my wired charger!
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That's a pretty cool project! Care to elaborate on the steps and materials needed?
One pointer from my end: do not leave this charging overnight or when you're away from the device! Though customizations like this are fun and interesting, they are also a common source of house fires. Risks are probably low here as it involves slow charging but you really don't want to risk it.
Timmmmaaahh said:
That's a pretty cool project! Care to elaborate on the steps and materials needed?
One pointer from my end: do not leave this charging overnight or when you're away from the device! Though customizations like this are fun and interesting, they are also a common source of house fires. Risks are probably low here as it involves slow charging but you really don't want to risk it.
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I'm making the small guide and I'll post it later
The bad thing is I couldn't really take many pictures, since the phone is what I used to do that, so I'll be using some footage from ifixit teardown video.
So this all began when my phones back crystal panel broke on a fall.
I decided I had to replace it, so I ordered a new Transparent one, since like Jerryrigeverything I love to be able to see the electronics.
While I was at it I figured, why not add wireless charging to the phone? It should be possible, so I looked around for a guide, and I found this one:
https://www.instructables.com/Add-Wireless-Charging-to-Any-Phone-Using-the-LG-V2/
That was way sloppier than what I wanted, but it was a good read, and you can read about what he did.
You will need, a multimeter to check for continuity
A soldering iron, one that can regulate heat so you don’t damage anything, and with the smallest tip you can find
A donor charging receiver
Time and patience.
After that
With help from ifixit (link: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/OnePlus+6T+Teardown/115698 )
I opened up the phone, and since ifixit said there was no fingerprint connector you can just go at it, heat, and separate.
Once inside, disconnect the battery first.
The OnePlus 6T has a different design, there’s no pcb for the usb c on the speaker area, it has a connector that goes up to the main pcb, that snaps right next to the battery, since they had to make room for the optic fingerprint scanner.
So I removed the battery, so I could strip the layer of safety glue and make a little more room by peeling away a couple of layers, otherwise this wouldn’t close.
I started probing around with my multimeter for continuity, to do this, I connected the usb type c wireless charge pad (this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B087TW7MGK/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_4?smid=AQB8EOE9WF3ZF&psc=1 ) after I stripped the protecting plastic cover (to make it even thinner, and to see the insides).
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5118635&d=1603036807
So you connect it and probe the +Vbus and the Ground on that pad, at first I was a bit baffled, since it had pins on both sides, why if it isn’t carrying data, then I realized how stupid I was being, of course, it’s because it’s usb type c, you can plug it in both ways, and it needs to have the correct pins either way.
So I managed to probe around for continuity, and found out these are the correct spots.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5118637&d=1603036807
I had to remove some of the plastic on the NFC cover to allow the wires to pass, you can see on the final image the route the wires had to take.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5118639&d=1603036807
As you can see, I also jumped both grounds since it wouldn’t work if I didn’t.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5118633&d=1603036807
The first one is beefier, but it wouldn’t fit since everything on the PCB was bigger, the thing is, they charged at the same rate when tested with a usb type c power meter around 680-700 mah of charging power with a 10 watt wireless charger.
I ended up using this other one which was cheaper, and also smaller, not as sexy, but that’s the price to pay.
https://www.amazon.com/Version-Wire...48&sprefix=type+c+wireless+cha,aps,185&sr=8-3
so all that was left to do, was place a nice thin sticker on my battery (I miss the red battery days) to make it look a little bit better, and close it up with the transparent back cover (also from amazon).
As a side note, I placed a USB C to C power meter, and these little things do seem to have sensors for when the battery is full, so they don’t overcharge or overheat.
So I left it overnight with a 65 watt PD USB C to C charger, and a wall plug power meter, and once it’s soldered in, it also seems to drop down the charging, and it also stops giving out heat when it’s fully charged, so there might be something on the small PCB for charge detection, or maybe it’s the phones own full charge detection and it stops asking for power, since this would be the equivalent of being connected with a cable.
Still, everyone should operate at their own safety and I’m not responsible if you set your house on fire, but I will continue leaving it overnight.
It charges slowly, but I can also plug in my dash charger, and again, it doesn’t overheat, the PCB on the wireless coil receiver seems to be doing something, maybe.