Hello @all
I'm really struggling in making a decision between the E90 and the TyTN II. I don't know which device I should choose. I want a device which has
-a good keyboard
-very good reception
-good camera
-a good GPS
-Synchronisation with Outlook should work flawlessly.
-good readabilty outdoors
-good one-hand "functionality"
Thank you very much in advance for your advice.
Greetings
JCD.SAG
JCD.SAG said:
Hello @all
I'm really struggling in making a decision between the E90 and the TyTN II. I don't know which device I should choose. I want a device which has
-a good keyboard
-very good reception
-good camera
-a good GPS
-Synchronisation with Outlook should work flawlessly.
-good readabilty outdoors
-good one-hand "functionality"
Thank you very much in advance for your advice.
Greetings
JCD.SAG
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i think the tytn 2 fits your bill, as the e90 are missing some features from the list.
kms
-a good keyboard (Kaiser: YES)
-very good reception (Kaiser: YES)
-good camera (Kaiser: depends on the light, not good for indoor)
-a good GPS (Kaiser: YES)
-Synchronisation with Outlook should work flawlessly (Kaiser: YES, Windows!)
-good readabilty outdoors (Kaiser: depends, for me is OK, readable most of the time)
-good one-hand "functionality" (Kaiser: depends, but again I have no problem)
Thank you very much for your replies. Can you tell me, how simple or how complicated it is to write umlauts like ä, ö, ü? It's because I use them quite a lot.
Thank you again.
Greetings
JCD.SAG
TyTN II Big Time!
in the onscreen keyboard, there is abutton, just toggle it for another keyboard all the a's, e's, o's and u's are ther.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
press the keyboard icon in between the soft key when browsing ore writing a message to bring out the on screen keyboard.
press the au on the bottom line, will put you onto another keyboard
kms
Thank you for your quick response. Could you please be so kind and tell me how I can write the umlauts on the hardware keyboard?
Thank you for your patience
Greetings
JCD.SAG
on the hardware keyboard,for ä just push the letter a and then push and hold the function key and using space bar to choose the right slash, this is the same with o and e etc.
kms
I've had both these phones so
-a good keyboard - The E90 has a better keyboard but only if you put it on a desk if your holding it in your hands the Kaiser is best as on the E90 you cannot reach the middle keys whilst holding it.
-very good reception - Both very similar, the E90 did hold reception extremly well and i would say had the edge on the Kaiser
-good camera - Not really tried the camera on the E90 very much but both adequate pictures but far from professional quality.
-a good GPS - The Kaiser wins this hands dowm, i use tomtom a lot and find it brilliant on the Kaiser, the E90 worked ok with its own software but does not work with most mainline apps without an external GPS and even using its own software it was a struggle to get a good reception.
-Synchronisation with Outlook should work flawlessly. The E90 synced fine and so does the kaiser but the kaiser does sync additional info like giving you the option to add full recurring calender options. The E90 failed to sync tasks correctly if they reacurred you had to make them complete on the PC or the next one would not apear. (hope that makes sense)
-good readabilty outdoors - Yes both worked fine.
-good one-hand "functionality" I've always hated the PPC dial pad and contact options for one handed use so have to say the E90 has it on this one for me.
Other considerations that i feel you should consider
The call quality on the Kaiser is terrible on Bluetooth handsfree.
Having said that the E90 has one huge problem and the main reason for me swapping. When i purcahsed it the main reason was the fact i loved the symbian opeating system and having a full keyboard and huge screen. The problem with it is when you open the keyboard to surf the net where you hold the phone your finger must sit right over the 3G aerial as every single time i use it to surf i end up loosing 3g signal unless its maximum strength and it drops to normal 2 /2w.5g which is terrible for browsing normal web pages. For browsing on non wifi connections you can forget using the E90 unless you use it 100 yards from the base station.
Hope this helps your consideration.
I tested both and can only say throw the nokia in the basket it can`t even be compared with the Kaiser
I would say the symbian os has too many bugs and reset to often, if you compare it with windows mobile.
I had the E90 but could not stand it for more than a week before I sold it for a huge loss.
No matter what you have heard of Nokia but the build quality was pathetic. The casing creeked giving the impression of cheap quality. The key tops had started scratching the inner screen and the unit would wobble if you made an attempt to use it like a laptop. The keyboard may look very impressive but was a horrible experience to use. I am using Touchpal right now and find it much better than the Nokia hardware keyboard.
Lack of good software was another reason for me not keeping the Nokia. Was not able to find a decent spreadsheet which would even come close to SoftMakers PlanMaker
Hi, I also tried the E90 and the Kaiser. All I can say is "forget the E90". Especially if you want to use GPS. The Kaiser worked well just laying on the seat, the Nokia must be direct behind the screen. The synchronisation works much better on the Kaiser. I have a few friends with two first names, the Nokia made three entries out of them.
Just to add my two cents worth.
I use a Kaiser (Tilt) now, but had used Symbian in its various PDA and phone iterations from 1991 (yes) until 2007.
The Kaiser has a touch screen and I think that makes it a more efficient PDA.
The E90 screen does color far better
The Nokia sync suite, I think, handles general sync issues better with Outlook than does ActiveSync. I believe it is more stable and certainly gives more control over when to sync and how to handle conflicts....but it doesn't sync categories - which is a pain.
All in all, though I am not looking to move from WinMob back to Symbian anytime soon.
I passed the e90
Having been a user of previous Nokia Communicators (9100), Sony Ericsson P800, P910 and a Nokia N73 I took delivery of a Tytn II earlier this week.
For about two hours I was not fully convinced, but gradually as I started using the system I found myself continually being impressed at smaller features, which when you add them up make the TytnII greater than the sum of its parts. I did also look at the E90, however it is considerably bigger than the TytN II.
For me the keyboard is too small on the Tytn II, however the touch screen makes up for it, and is actually faster than I recall my speed to have been on my previous communicator, which of course had a bigger keyboard.
I have now been won over by this phone. I am still having a few teething troubles with email (which I intend to post here under a separate thread) but this may be me simply being more demanding that the phone can deliver.
Don't be concerned that this is running Windows, as it is no quicker or slower than any other smartphone I've used, and it's doing a hell of a lot more.
In short I think there is no contest, and I am a fan of Nokias! The Tytn II is smaller, has a touch screen, has reasonable battery life (so far!) and a wealth of software (although in fairness so does the E90). By all means go to a shop and take a look at both, but I think you'll walk away with a Tytn II...
The Kaiser for me is much better.
My only gripe is that I prefer the keyboard from the original Wizard/XDA Mini S
It's more precise.
Also the Kaiser touchscreen isn't as sensitive as the Wizards.
I left the world of Nokia after over a decade when I used the N80. This was such a disastrous phone I went over to HTC TyTN (and now the TyTN II) and I've never looked back.
Nokia's recent announcement to start using touch screen technology says it all really about how far behind they are now.
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I tested both and can only say throw the nokia in the basket it can`t even be compared with the Kaiser
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Is this the definition of an unfounded statement???
The tech specs pretty much leans towards the Nokia, but I include it just to show I'm unbiased.
The selling point for the Kaiser is the applications available for WM6 vs S60. If you go to handago.com, you'll notice that there are at least 2x more applications for Windows Mobile than there are applications for Symbian.
edit: almost forgot to mention, good luck finding a huge selection of ROMs for a Symbian device, like we have here...
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Hello,
First things first:
This is my first post here. I live in Brazil, and I work as a software developer. I have always liked technology and gadgets, and I bought my first smartphone a few years ago.
It was a Nokia N-Gage QD. I loved it, because it had a wonderful OS (Symbian S60 1st Edition). But the hardware was quite limited, with a ~100 MHz processor, 16 MB memory, used very slow MMC cards, and the main problem was the screen, which was only 176x208, 4k colors, and very low contrast. Since it was a S60 device it also had no touchscreen. It also didn't have a MP3 player.
About a year ago I decided it was time for an upgrade. A friend of mine bought a Motorola A1200i (also known as Ming). I really loved it when she showed it to me. It is quite a bit smaller than the N-Gage, has a beautiful 320x240 touchscreen, pretty decent specs (312 Mhz Intel processor, 48 Mb memory, MicroSD support), the most beautiful user interface I have ever seen, and lots of built in applications.
But it has some very serious issues, most of them because of the limited Linux OS. Since it's Linux, there are absolutely no commercial applications, the only ones available are distributed freely by Linux fans.
I started looking for a better device, and found the Kaiser. It has pretty much everything I want that my phone doesn't have: a real OS, .Net support (which is my favorite programming platform), Wifi, GPS, 3G.
I read lots and lots of reviews, news and posts about it. I am aware of the driver issues, and I have also read that the battery doesn't last long.
Well, but anyway, some questions I have:
1. Music: I listen to music almost every day on my phone. I also have an original Motorola S9 headset, which I really really like. I will keep it to use with the Kaiser too. My phone has some issues with A2DP. The pitch is a little higher than it should, and sometimes I have to reconnect to get it working. But what I really dislike is that only RealPlayer streams to A2DP devices. All other applications need a wired headset. How good is the Kaiser for music with a Bluetooth headset?
2. Texting/messaging: I also text a lot. Since my phone has no keyboard, I use a virtual one, very similar to the one found on WM. How much faster is the physical keyboard? Some people say the keys are a little hard to press, is that true? And is the keyboard good enough for moderate use or I would be better off with a Bluetooth keyboard?
3. Web: I also like to browse the web on my phone. I use Opera Mini, because I really like its features, and it synchronizes with my desktop Opera, so I can have the same bookmarks. Is Mini also the best choice on Kaiser?
4. Video: This one I wish I could use more, but I don't because the application I use doesn't stream to Bluetooth headsets. But anyway, my phone is pretty decent when it comes to video playing. I can play 320x240 XVid videos at around 25 FPS. Can the Kaiser achieve this kind of performance even without proper drivers? AFAIK WM handles A2DP streams, so in theory any application can use them. Does that mean I can watch videos with my Bluetooth headset?
5. Battery: How much does it last with real life use? I don't mind if it doesn't last very long, as long as it lasts at least a full day with heavy use. My phone lasts for around 2.5 days with light use, and listening to 3 hours of music with Bluetooth make it last a day less. But it's still good, because I only have to charge it at night.
6. Application: And how about developing applications? .Net seems almost too easy to be true. Do I really only have to compile the application on Visual Studio and install it? No 99 step building and deploying process like my old Symbian phone had?
7. Games: I don't play games that much, I don't even have any game installed on my PC, but it can be a good passtime when on the go. On my N-Gage QD I had a few games that were really good, and some emulators. Because of the limited resolution I could only play Gameboy games, but it could also emulate SNES. And there were many games I liked on the SNES. Can the Kaiser run it? How are the controls?
8. File transfer: Does it support PAN protocol, so I can browse the folders on the SD through Bluetooth? Once I saw a friend of mine doing it with a Dell X51 and it's much much better than OBEX.
I guess that's it for now. I looked for guides that would answer my questions, but didn't find any. Is there a FAQ or something?
Any help will be greatly appreciated, and I hope I can retribute if/when I buy a Kaiser myself.
Thanks!
Smaniac said:
Hello,
First things first:
This is my first post here. I live in Brazil, and I work as a software developer. I have always liked technology and gadgets, and I bought my first smartphone a few years ago.
It was a Nokia N-Gage QD. I loved it, because it had a wonderful OS (Symbian S60 1st Edition). But the hardware was quite limited, with a ~100 MHz processor, 16 MB memory, used very slow MMC cards, and the main problem was the screen, which was only 176x208, 4k colors, and very low contrast. Since it was a S60 device it also had no touchscreen. It also didn't have a MP3 player.
About a year ago I decided it was time for an upgrade. A friend of mine bought a Motorola A1200i (also known as Ming). I really loved it when she showed it to me. It is quite a bit smaller than the N-Gage, has a beautiful 320x240 touchscreen, pretty decent specs (312 Mhz Intel processor, 48 Mb memory, MicroSD support), the most beautiful user interface I have ever seen, and lots of built in applications.
But it has some very serious issues, most of them because of the limited Linux OS. Since it's Linux, there are absolutely no commercial applications, the only ones available are distributed freely by Linux fans.
I started looking for a better device, and found the Kaiser. It has pretty much everything I want that my phone doesn't have: a real OS, .Net support (which is my favorite programming platform), Wifi, GPS, 3G.
I read lots and lots of reviews, news and posts about it. I am aware of the driver issues, and I have also read that the battery doesn't last long.
Well, but anyway, some questions I have:
1. Music: I listen to music almost every day on my phone. I also have an original Motorola S9 headset, which I really really like. I will keep it to use with the Kaiser too. My phone has some issues with A2DP. The pitch is a little higher than it should, and sometimes I have to reconnect to get it working. But what I really dislike is that only RealPlayer streams to A2DP devices. All other applications need a wired headset. How good is the Kaiser for music with a Bluetooth headset?
2. Texting/messaging: I also text a lot. Since my phone has no keyboard, I use a virtual one, very similar to the one found on WM. How much faster is the physical keyboard? Some people say the keys are a little hard to press, is that true? And is the keyboard good enough for moderate use or I would be better off with a Bluetooth keyboard?
3. Web: I also like to browse the web on my phone. I use Opera Mini, because I really like its features, and it synchronizes with my desktop Opera, so I can have the same bookmarks. Is Mini also the best choice on Kaiser?
4. Video: This one I wish I could use more, but I don't because the application I use doesn't stream to Bluetooth headsets. But anyway, my phone is pretty decent when it comes to video playing. I can play 320x240 XVid videos at around 25 FPS. Can the Kaiser achieve this kind of performance even without proper drivers? AFAIK WM handles A2DP streams, so in theory any application can use them. Does that mean I can watch videos with my Bluetooth headset?
5. Battery: How much does it last with real life use? I don't mind if it doesn't last very long, as long as it lasts at least a full day with heavy use. My phone lasts for around 2.5 days with light use, and listening to 3 hours of music with Bluetooth make it last a day less. But it's still good, because I only have to charge it at night.
6. Application: And how about developing applications? .Net seems almost too easy to be true. Do I really only have to compile the application on Visual Studio and install it? No 99 step building and deploying process like my old Symbian phone had?
7. Games: I don't play games that much, I don't even have any game installed on my PC, but it can be a good passtime when on the go. On my N-Gage QD I had a few games that were really good, and some emulators. Because of the limited resolution I could only play Gameboy games, but it could also emulate SNES. And there were many games I liked on the SNES. Can the Kaiser run it? How are the controls?
8. File transfer: Does it support PAN protocol, so I can browse the folders on the SD through Bluetooth? Once I saw a friend of mine doing it with a Dell X51 and it's much much better than OBEX.
I guess that's it for now. I looked for guides that would answer my questions, but didn't find any. Is there a FAQ or something?
Any help will be greatly appreciated, and I hope I can retribute if/when I buy a Kaiser myself.
Thanks!
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Generally I'm of the opinion that the Kaiser isn't right for very many people, but to answer your questions:
1. If you have a good pair of BT headphones, listening to music on them is simple. This is true on most WM devices.
2. Biggest problem I have is that the spacebar has two sensors (clicks on left and right which you'll probably end up pressing both at once) which is a really stupid design move. On top of that, the Kaiser does not register double presses of a button (i.e. it would have written out that part as "preses of a buton") unless you type very slowly. Some people find various onscreen solutions better, but in general I find the keyboard adequate.
3. Opera Mini is the easiest to use at the moment.
4. No. And yes to your second question.
5. It will not last a day with heavy use.
6. Don't know.
7. Go to Howard Forums and search for a post on emulators by menneisyys.
8. Yes, WM supports PAN protocol.
1. Music works pretty well except for an issue where the sound stops for a fraction of a second every few minutes or so.
2. The keyboard isn't as good as it could be(especially with that weird random lag it sometimes has) but still way better than an onscreen keyboard.
3. I like Opera Mobile, but I'm too cheap to pay for it so I'm using PIE.
4. Coreplayer is supposed to release a version well suited for the Kaiser in a couple of months. It costs money though.
5. Two days in light use in an Edge area. 6 hours in an 'H' area listening to music, using google maps, surfing the internet.
6. Yes compared to other environments, writing on the compact framework is a thing of wonderous joy.
7. I've had alot of problems getting these things usable. They don't seem to be actively developing them much.
8. Don't know.
Overall it's like owning classic corvette and having to use it as a commuter car. You love it but you also can't help but hate it sometimes.
Thank you very much for your help, both of you. You pointed me in the right direction. Now I know I can expect CorePlayer 1.2 to be great. And I don't really mind paying for software, because since I earn money from it I also recognize its value. Besides, $25 will be pretty cheap considering its benefits.
2 things that got me really disappointed though seem to be keyboard and battery. About the keyboard, I will wait for the official release in Brazil next month, so I can test it. But is the battery really that bad? Maybe I can live with it, I can recharge it at work when needed, because it charges by USB from what I have read.
Anyway, I know this phone isn't perfect. There is and will never be any perfect device. But even considering its flaws, it seems to be excellent.
I wish the video driver issue was really solved though. It would make it even more attractive to everyone.
Thank you very much for your time again.
Blowfish64 said:
7. Go to Howard Forums and search for a post on emulators by menneisyys.
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Thanks for the promotion
That's no longe rneeded - in the meantime, I've migrated all my Bibles in the local Wiki (it took me SEVERAL days to do so... thousands of articles...)
See http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...s - for both games and productivity platforms
Smaniac said:
2 things that got me really disappointed though seem to be keyboard and battery. About the keyboard, I will wait for the official release in Brazil next month, so I can test it. But is the battery really that bad? Maybe I can live with it, I can recharge it at work when needed, because it charges by USB from what I have read.
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Disable 3G; then, it'll be a lot better. See my related Bible at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...(GPRS & EDGE) modes to optimize battery life! and http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...(auto-)terminate unnecessary data connections
Blowfish64 said:
1. If you have a good pair of BT headphones, listening to music on them is simple. This is true on most WM devices.
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Justa quick warning: the Kaiser uses the A2DP implementation of the MS BT stack. While it's definitely better than that of previous OS'es (WM5 - see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...nes) quality: Light at the End of the Tunnel? for more info on this), it's still worse than decent A2DP implementations like those of Nokia or the dumbphones / media players of Samsung. You won't really notice the difference if you only listen to, say, disco music; with classical / folk / world music, the difference is HUGE.
That is, if you REALLY need A2DP, go for a non-WM device or get an additional, cheap A2DP source; for example the Samsung YP-T9J.
I really recommend ALL the A2DP-related articles at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...for 1. DUN and connectivity issues; 2. gaming for more info.
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Smaniac said:
8. File transfer: Does it support PAN protocol, so I can browse the folders on the SD through Bluetooth? Once I saw a friend of mine doing it with a Dell X51 and it's much much better than OBEX.
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8. Yes, WM supports PAN protocol.
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The OP seems to have confused the File Transfer Profile with PAN. They have nothing to do with each other. BT PAN can be used to transfer files - but FT is much-much better suited for this task. (BTW, PAN isn't really supported, only in server mode - see my related articles.)
Fortunately, the Kaiser, being WM6 (as opposed to earlier OS'es), supports FT - unless your particular rebrander has removed the support.
Smaniac said:
7. Games: I don't play games that much, I don't even have any game installed on my PC, but it can be a good passtime when on the go. On my N-Gage QD I had a few games that were really good, and some emulators. Because of the limited resolution I could only play Gameboy games, but it could also emulate SNES. And there were many games I liked on the SNES. Can the Kaiser run it? How are the controls?
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For emulation, currently, it's plain useless. See the emulation-related threads here.
If you want DECENT emulation capabilities, currently, your ONLY choice is the Dell Axim x50v / x51v.
Menneisyys said:
Thanks for the promotion
That's no longe rneeded - in the meantime, I've migrated all my Bibles in the local Wiki (it took me SEVERAL days to do so... thousands of articles...)
See http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...s - for both games and productivity platforms
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Nice articles, one thing that really got me interested was ScummVM. I only knew the desktop version, had no idea there was a WM version.
Menneisyys said:
Disable 3G; then, it'll be a lot better. See my related Bible at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...(GPRS & EDGE) modes to optimize battery life! and http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...(auto-)terminate unnecessary data connections
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Well, I won't be using 3G all of the time, so that might be a viable solution. Great to know there is a simple application to do that.
Menneisyys said:
Justa quick warning: the Kaiser uses the A2DP implementation of the MS BT stack. While it's definitely better than that of previous OS'es (WM5 - see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...nes) quality: Light at the End of the Tunnel? for more info on this), it's still worse than decent A2DP implementations like those of Nokia or the dumbphones / media players of Samsung. You won't really notice the difference if you only listen to, say, disco music; with classical / folk / world music, the difference is HUGE.
That is, if you REALLY need A2DP, go for a non-WM device or get an additional, cheap A2DP source; for example the Samsung YP-T9J.
I really recommend ALL the A2DP-related articles at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...for 1. DUN and connectivity issues; 2. gaming for more info.
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The main reason for me to play music on my phone is that I don't need to carry a whole different device. So buying something else just for music isn't an option. But I'll try it for myself, it will probably be better than my current Linux RealPlayer, which is really bad.
Menneisyys said:
The OP seems to have confused the File Transfer Profile with PAN. They have nothing to do with each other. BT PAN can be used to transfer files - but FT is much-much better suited for this task. (BTW, PAN isn't really supported, only in server mode - see my related articles.)
Fortunately, the Kaiser, being WM6 (as opposed to earlier OS'es), supports FT - unless your particular rebrander has removed the support.
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Yep, you are right, I meant FT, not PAN. Sorry.
Menneisyys said:
For emulation, currently, it's plain useless. See the emulation-related threads here.
If you want DECENT emulation capabilities, currently, your ONLY choice is the Dell Axim x50v / x51v.
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Emulation isn't a must for me, but it would be nice to have.
A friend of mine has a Dell x51v, and I REALLY hate it. I don't mean to offend who has one, but I just see it as a very bulky device with no kind of network connection whatsoever.
Thank you very much for the feedback. I'm starting to really like this community already.
battery isnt that bad, i get a good few hours of music over a2dp, a good few hours browsing time and ive got putty and messenger runing on the thing all the time over gprs - what i find realy kills the battery is how long you have the screen on, if i keep the screen on a lot, ill be down to mid 30%ies after a ful day - if i go a bit lighter ill still have about 50% by the time i goto bed.
the keyboard is ok - the double tap problem does bug me but ive trained myself to avoid it (mostly ) im writing this post on my kaiser, way faster than if i were to use an onscreen keyb but i have nails (and slender fingers) so i guess that makes it easier to hit the keys.
i can play transcoded (down to native 320x240) video just fine at decent fps (dont know exact framerate) - i dont notice any lag or stuttering - though im sure i wont need to transcode in the future when some drivers are released.
cant say about the audio quality over a2dp - ive never had issue with it, i actually think its quite good quality, but the loudspeaker on the back is so loud it does distort the sound quite often even if its set to a low level (sounds like its reverberating or smt)
all in all im happy with my kaiser given its few blemishes
Smaniac said:
The main reason for me to play music on my phone is that I don't need to carry a whole different device. So buying something else just for music isn't an option. But I'll try it for myself, it will probably be better than my current Linux RealPlayer, which is really bad.
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It all depends on the music genre you listen to - and also the headphones you use. Some are just horrible with the MS BT stack; this is why I'm using a different, non-Microsoft gadget (Nokia N95) as an A2DP source. WAAAY better - there is just no comparison.
Smaniac said:
Emulation isn't a must for me, but it would be nice to have.
A friend of mine has a Dell x51v, and I REALLY hate it. I don't mean to offend who has one, but I just see it as a very bulky device with no kind of network connection whatsoever.
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It indeed doesn't have a phone ("only" Wi-Fi / BT). However, if you're seriously into gaming / emulation, you will want to consider getting it - in addition to your Kaiser (it's pretty cheap now). The Kaiser is, currently, plain bad at both emulation, the touchscreen tap-and-hold CPU usage issues and the D-pad department.
fusi said:
battery isnt that bad, i get a good few hours of music over a2dp, a good few hours browsing time and ive got putty and messenger runing on the thing all the time over gprs - what i find realy kills the battery is how long you have the screen on, if i keep the screen on a lot, ill be down to mid 30%ies after a ful day - if i go a bit lighter ill still have about 50% by the time i goto bed.
the keyboard is ok - the double tap problem does bug me but ive trained myself to avoid it (mostly ) im writing this post on my kaiser, way faster than if i were to use an onscreen keyb but i have nails (and slender fingers) so i guess that makes it easier to hit the keys.
i can play transcoded (down to native 320x240) video just fine at decent fps (dont know exact framerate) - i dont notice any lag or stuttering - though im sure i wont need to transcode in the future when some drivers are released.
cant say about the audio quality over a2dp - ive never had issue with it, i actually think its quite good quality, but the loudspeaker on the back is so loud it does distort the sound quite often even if its set to a low level (sounds like its reverberating or smt)
all in all im happy with my kaiser given its few blemishes
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As I can see everything is a matter of particular use and taste. Good to know that someone is really happy with it, I hope I will be too. Thanks for the info!
Menneisyys said:
It all depends on the music genre you listen to - and also the headphones you use. Some are just horrible with the MS BT stack; this is why I'm using a different, non-Microsoft gadget (Nokia N95) as an A2DP source. WAAAY better - there is just no comparison.
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I use a Motorola S9, and I listen to a lot of different stuff (rock, pop, classical, and so on). I have tried it briefly on the Dell x51v and the quality was good, however it seems my friend was using a different BT stack. By the way, is that information correct? He told me MS one didn't support FT protocol, so he installed another one, and now it has it.
Menneisyys said:
It indeed doesn't have a phone ("only" Wi-Fi / BT). However, if you're seriously into gaming / emulation, you will want to consider getting it - in addition to your Kaiser (it's pretty cheap now). The Kaiser is, currently, plain bad at both emulation, the touchscreen tap-and-hold CPU usage issues and the D-pad department.
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I'm not really into it. I don't even play games on my PC. I only play my Nintendo Wii for a few hours a week.
Like I said it would be a nice plus, but not a requirement.
It would be nice if I could play some slow-paced games like Chrono Trigger or Final Fantasy 6 though. Is it possible?
Thanks!
Menneisyys said:
The Kaiser is, currently, plain bad at both emulation, the touchscreen tap-and-hold CPU usage issues and the D-pad department.
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Menneisyys,
Do you have any reason to believe the Polaris/Cruise will be better at this?
What is the best car holder for in-car Navigation using TYTNII and tom-tom 6 ?
This one is from HTC :
http://www.expansys.com/zoompic.aspx?type=item&i=159378
Anyone knows if TYTN and tom/tom 6 work well for navigation ? I am wondering whether I should spend more money to get a Tom-Tom GO 520 t , with a LCD screen and apparently more options than tom tom 6 .
http://www.tomtom.com/products/features.php?ID=382&Category=0&Lid=1
And there is one with speaker :
http://www.4ustuff.com/info.php?itno=2050
Hi,for all my pda i 've bought all the time at Qtek's shop : here.It's very good quality and good fixation.
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I own a Mio C520T gps system which I normally use in my car, but sometimes I forget it and then use my TyTN. The tt6 on my TyTN performs excellent for navigation in my car.
The screen isnt as big as my Mio but for navigation performance it works as fast and precize as my Mio device. I'm very pleased of it
texarcana said:
I own a Mio C520T gps system which I normally use in my car, but sometimes I forget it and then use my TyTN. The tt6 on my TyTN performs excellent for navigation in my car.
The screen isnt as big as my Mio but for navigation performance it works as fast and precize as my Mio device. I'm very pleased of it
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So the TYTN II GPS receiver works in-car without antena attached via the GPS antena port ?
Yes and very good.
The build-in gps receiver in the TyTN 2 is excellent and gets a satellite fix as fast as my gps device
texarcana said:
Yes and very good.
The build-in gps receiver in the TyTN 2 is excellent and gets a satellite fix as fast as my gps device
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I see. I thought the TYTN II might not get GPS reception since the GPS device is built-in and when the TYTN II is in the car cradle the signal might get obstructed by the car roof. I guess it depends on the type of car u are driving.
http://www.pdashop.nl/product/46997/44702/3353/carcomm-cradle-htc-tytn-ii.html
I got this one... works great and BATT loading is OK !!
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I see. I thought the TYTN II might not get GPS reception since the GPS device is built-in and when the TYTN II is in the car cradle the signal might get obstructed by the car roof. I guess it depends on the type of car u are driving.
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The receiver is GREAT! I even get reception inside my apartment. Our building is very well constructed, to the point that at times I don't even get reception on my cell phone, but the GPS still works, even when not near a window etc.
I used to have a Treo 750, with GlobalSat GPS receiver, and at times it would take several minutes to get a fix, with the receiver in this phone, the fix is almost instantaneous every time.
In my opinion ProClip is the only way to go when it comes to holding my Tilt in the truck. It's a completely custom solution.
I believe the URL is proclipusa.com
SacTilt said:
In my opinion ProClip is the only way to go when it comes to holding my Tilt in the truck. It's a completely custom solution.
I believe the URL is proclipusa.com
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cincy1020 said:
The receiver is GREAT! I even get reception inside my apartment. Our building is very well constructed, to the point that at times I don't even get reception on my cell phone, but the GPS still works, even when not near a window etc.
I used to have a Treo 750, with GlobalSat GPS receiver, and at times it would take several minutes to get a fix, with the receiver in this phone, the fix is almost instantaneous every time.
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i can confirm that, I also get gps signal inside my house (when close to the window which is double glass).
see. I thought the TYTN II might not get GPS reception since the GPS device is built-in and when the TYTN II is in the car cradle the signal might get obstructed by the car roof. I guess it depends on the type of car u are driving.
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Where are you putting your device ? It should not matter what car you drive. I get reception when I'm in the front, in the back and even in the trunk of the car.
cincy1020 said:
The receiver is GREAT! I even get reception inside my apartment. Our building is very well constructed, to the point that at times I don't even get reception on my cell phone, but the GPS still works, even when not near a window etc.
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I am beginning to think u've got much stronger GPS satellites there in the US. Here in UK GPS is definitely not working in house. No experience in-car as of yet. I am getting my fist car next month.
Well ... GPS satellites are mobile ! so, everybody finally gets in contacts with all of them !
But in US, walls are definitely thinner than in Europe
I had very decent GPS signal inside building while trying my device in Luxembourg. In Croatia where I live it is a little weaker in building but still I can get it.
Regarding cars, some cars have special metal coating on windows (solar protection or something like that) that is blocking GPS signal. In such cases you need external antenna. Also it seems that some manufacturers are aware of this and they are coating only some of windows. Fox example I noticed on Ford S-Max that I can get signal if I put device near front left or right corner window...
3uk said:
I am beginning to think u've got much stronger GPS satellites there in the US. Here in UK GPS is definitely not working in house. No experience in-car as of yet. I am getting my fist car next month.
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This may sound crazy, and may be purely coincidental, but when I was using free software for gps (Google Maps, and Windows Live Search), my signal indoors seemed weaker, and now that I have switched to iGo, my signal indoors is much stronger.
I get a very decent signal indoors here with my Tytn 2 in the UK, with thick insulated brick walls and double glazed windows I average 3-4 satellites anywhere in the house , my external bluetooth one struggles to get 1 satellite when sat next to a window. The GPS reception on the Tytn 2 is very impressive and for me tracks my location to within 3-4ft even indoors
Hey all,
I currently own an 8525/Hermes and was thinking of upgrading to a Kaiser Tilt.
I mainly use my Hermes for video and music playback (using TCPMP), RSS Feeds, and traditional PDA functions such as calendars/email/contacts....
I am a bit hesitant however due to the video driver issues and GPS-Battery drain issues....
For all you past Hermes owners, in retrospect to your Kaiser purchase, do you recommend upgrading to a Kaiser or just keep the Hermes until HTC or our XDA developers finds solutions to the Kaiser issues?
As always, best regards to all and I do appreciate your advice
Thanks...
In my opinion, my Kaiser crushes my old Hermes...but I'm also the type of person that doesn't care whether we get drivers or not. To me it's faster, cooler and I always use the internal GPS. I also use Newsbreak for my RSS feeds and have no problems.
I agree, I find my Kaiser to be better in every way than my 8525, no regrets whatsoever. I use GPS every day, Slingbox, watch many full length movies, photo viewing with the HTC album are great, streaming radio stations, it's all good.
The only reason I have my Tilt, is because the screen on my hermes broke. If it hadn't, I would defately stuch with my hermes. I loved my hermes. The video playback was twice as good as the Tilt. And the keyboard was a lot nicer and easier to use. I would just wait and see what the driver upgrade brings. IMO
Hi RemE,
Quick question.... do you have to encode/rip your full length movies (assuming you use divx or xvid codecs) to lower video bit rates and resolution to watch videos smoothly on your Kaiser?
What bit rates do you generally use for your videos? (I say generally b/c I'm sure these bit rates varies depending if the movie is an action movies vs non-action movies )
I'm just trying to get a gauge on the video playback performance of the Kaiser as compared to the Hermes
RemE said:
I agree, I find my Kaiser to be better in every way than my 8525, no regrets whatsoever. I use GPS every day, Slingbox, watch many full length movies, photo viewing with the HTC album are great, streaming radio stations, it's all good.
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I've always created my video content as Divx / Xvid at 320 x 240 audio at 96k stereo and a total bitrate between 475-500kb/sec. I've used these settings for hundreds of movies to be played on my Archos players (with 4" screens), iPAQ's (even the 4" VGA hx4700). They play perfectly on all of these plus the Hermes, and now the Kaiser. I've used TCPMP and Core players with great results. These smaller screen players just don't need higher rez content to be very enjoyable to watch on the go.
People can say whatever they like, but my movies look very good and sound great, even better with WOW SRS active. Benchmarks in TCPMP and Core run between 148-204% and I never see stuttering or artifacts.
I know that the video drivers would make the Kaisers better, but right now everything is "just" good enough for everything to work as one would expect. I use this thing all day every day and it's much better all-around than my 8525
There are a bunch of little things I like better about the Kaiser (better camera, stylus, spring-loaded slider, color scheme). But the built-in GPS really puts the it head and shoulders above the Hermes.
The video driver issue isn't a deal breaker for me yet (even if the Kaiser vs. Magician Tom Tom video made me want to cry). I don't really see the point of watching a full length video on my phone. I just hope they get the driver issue fixed by football season... Orb server plus Hermes gave my wife her weekends back last year.
I do think the keyboard on the Hermes was a lot better though. It's probably because they had to cram the GPS components into the phone, but the Kaiser keyboard seems less responsive.
For me, the perfect phone would be the Kaiser with a Hermes keyboard and decent video drivers.
i miss my hermes camera more than anything. it took such great pix
Thanks to all so far for your feedback
I'm sure there are a bunch of Hermes users curious about the Kaiser performance (as of today without the video drivers fixed) compared with the Hermes. There seems to be so many bad posts related to the kaiser (drivers,battery issues,random cracking screens without abusing the phone). Don't get me wrong, the Wizard, Hermes, and now (it would seem) the Kaiser have all been sensitive devices and requires some kind of protective case (I use the aluminum cases for both Wizard & Hermes) unlike the Apple crude phone where apparently, it can be dropped onto a marble floor from 4 ft without cracking the screen. Why couldn't HTC build a sturdier screen?!?!
Anyways, the Hermes is an awesome device but since I currently don't need GPS, I may just stick with the Hermes a bit longer until some tragedy befalls on it.... but then again.... my wife's Wizard is going on the fritz and I may just give her my Hermes and upgrade to a Kaiser... ha ha.... now that would be a poll to post..."How many users gives there spouses/partners their hand me down phones?"
I hope more Kaiser owners vote in this poll.
Thanks again
hollywould said:
The only reason I have my Tilt, is because the screen on my hermes broke. If it hadn't, I would defately stuch with my hermes. I loved my hermes. The video playback was twice as good as the Tilt. And the keyboard was a lot nicer and easier to use. I would just wait and see what the driver upgrade brings. IMO
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Now I've tracked my instability issues to pocket plus and low memory i really wish I'd stuck with the hermes. Agree with all of the above really.
joel32137 said:
the Hermes is an awesome device but since I currently don't need GPS, I may just stick with the Hermes
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Good move. The built in GPS is the killer feature for me, one less device to carry.
I gave my Hermes to my girlfriend as she rarely uses GPS and it does everything the Kaiser does (except GPS) and just as quick.
Hi.
I've used 4-5 GPS apps and I couldn't find option to set a sound (in my case beeping sound) when I gain vertical speed. I wanna use my tilt like a paragliding variometer cause i can't look at the phone and enjoy the view .
So is there app that have that option or could you make one plz.
You can search on youtube to see how variometer works.
A paragliding variometer can have up to three ways of letting you know your vertical speed. Audio sound, digital readout or analog clockface. Some varios are quite basic, like the simple audio-only vario with nothing but an Off/On switch.
Let's have a quick look at each type in turn.
The audio sound indication. If you are going up faster than a pre-set value, you hear a beep-beep tone which increases in pitch the stronger the lift is. Different models have different sounds. Some of them have a sink-alarm as well, warning you with another sound that you are sinking faster than some pre-set value.
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The TyTN II is missing the hardware required
arminf said:
I've used 4-5 GPS apps and I couldn't find option to set a sound (in my case beeping sound) when I gain vertical speed. I wanna use my tilt like a paragliding variometer
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Firstly welcome to XDA-DEV arminf! I know exactly what you're after but the HTC TyTN II (and consequently also the Tilt) isn't equipped with enough hardware to be able to do that. There's no Barometric capsule to sense changes in air pressure and no accelerometer so it's no can do using just the phone. Interestingly the Tomtom Navigator version that came with my TyTN II has a setting for which units pressure is to be displayed in (but it has no way of getting that info). Maybe with future products if you let HTC know you'd like this capability included, they may listen (oh, and don't forget to ask for complete driver support while you're at it ). The Touch Pro has an accelerometer but I don't know if it's capable of sensing acceleration in the right plane and whether it can be harnessed using software for this specific purpose.
Surely it should be doable. GPS gives your 3d position, so all software has to do is give compare the positions and times of two subsequent positions to work out the vertical speed.
It should be quite simple for someone who actually has a clue how to program for Windows Mobile
Flying Kiwi said:
Firstly welcome to XDA-DEV arminf! I know exactly what you're after but the HTC TyTN II (and consequently also the Tilt) isn't equipped with enough hardware to be able to do that. There's no Barometric capsule to sense changes in air pressure and no accelerometer so it's no can do using just the phone. Interestingly the Tomtom Navigator version that came with my TyTN II has a setting for which units pressure is to be displayed in (but it has no way of getting that info). Maybe with future products if you let HTC know you'd like this capability included, they may listen (oh, and don't forget to ask for complete driver support while you're at it ). The Touch Pro has an accelerometer but I don't know if it's capable of sensing acceleration in the right plane and whether it can be harnessed using software for this specific purpose.
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Wow you are really into variometers , and i know that Tilt doesn't have Barometric capsule, but I was trying to improvise with GPS. So i just need that beeping sound on some GPS app when I'm going up
dancj said:
Surely it should be doable. GPS gives your 3d position, so all software has to do is give compare the positions and times of two subsequent positions to work out the vertical speed.
It should be quite simple for someone who actually has a clue how to program for Windows Mobile
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Keep in ming though that the GPS inside the TILT uses a perfect sphere model for the planet (AFAIR). So it is possible that you will get a number of false posities/negatives on an extremely uneven terrain...
But yes, in principle it should work.
TyTN II hardware still not up to the task
Whats needed for the intended purpose is something that reacts instantaneously (or very close to it) and with imense accuracy to sense when it's rising or decending and at what rate. If the device is to slow or not accurate enough (and I believe relying solely on the TyTN IIs GPS would present these issues) then you'd end up flying right through the thermal and out the other side or through the ridge lift and into the rotor etc.
When I first bought my bicycle and was looking for a GPS device to go on it (before I bought my TyTN II) I was looking at Garmin pocket GPS units one of which had an aneroid capsule built in. I checked their website and this model is still being sold and this is what it says "For extra-precise climb and descent data, Edge 305 also incorporates a barometric altimeter to pinpoint changes in elevation." Having used the TyTN II's GPS with TomTom Navigator, Google Maps and Microsoft Live Mapping, and seen how it sometimes struggles with basic 2 D mapping, I definitely wouldn't trust it to be up to speed in what the OP wants - irrespective of what software is coupled up to it.
I am going crazy with windows mobile. i have never had a reliable phone with windows mobile there is always another problem. anyway who has had a nokia n95? how does it compare with your htc phones?
thicker, compared to touch hd , sometimes may open to the wong side while in your pocket(tight pocket) and go to media, It doesnt have a touchscreen!!! I only had it for 2days(a year ago), cause my Nokia 5610 was broken at that time, and after those 2 days I had to give the N95 back and use Nokia 6230!! How about some other nokia with symbian like Xseries or maybe some other phone (non Nokia) with touchscreen and symbian?
Still have mine!
You cannot compare to HTC phone as it like compare apples and bananas.
N95 is a very nice phone and I have no problem with mine actually the VoIP phone feature is very very good on the Nokia, much better than on any Windows phone I had.
But it's a question of taste, some like Windows some like Android and some like Symbian, but as said earlier it's a very nice phone.
Garcia
love the nokia n95
i have had this for about two years...i have used it as a back up phone. Completely customizable! i have android on it via flash. i also pay dumpphone unlimited internet prices thru at&t and in my town its gives me 3.5g full bars...i use at home as my internet just tether thru nokia suite and video works great....and no tethering fee!the cam is also still pretty good!
I had a Nokia N95 which I gave to my dad. Typical Nokia reliability and good voice/signal quality. Only problem the phone has is that the batery gets wasted pretty quick, nothing a spare battery couldn't fix. I am not sure what generation it is as I got the phone 3 years ago... He still has it though and it works perfectly and still looks great.
I used to have it, but sold it to get sony xperia x1.. I loved the camera on it, best camera i ever seen on a mobile phone.
Here are the smart phones that I have used:
Samsung SCH-I760 - 1 year
iPhone3G 16 GB - 3 months
Xperia X1 - 1.5 years
Nokia E90 - 3 months
Nokia N95 - 1 year
Here are phones that I have access through relatives:
HTC Touch Pro2 T-mobile - I've used it for 12 hours
Well...the Nokia N95 and the Nokia E90 are pretty much the same thing except:
1) You will realize that an accelerometer, not found on the E90, is useless on a Nokia N95 Phone because it's not a touch screen interface.
2) The N95 has 5 Megapixel Carl Zeiss high quality camera lens and senser. The Nokia E90 has 3 Megapixels with ordinary lens.
3) The Nokia N95 has excellent speakers. The Nokia E90 has excellent speakers but you need to place it on a surface that has an acoustic feedback (a wooden table is good enough). All-in-all the Nokia E90 speakers is 90% as good as the N95 (I promise).
4) N95 has headphone jack, and E90 has 2.5 mm miniature headphone jack.
Get the N95 if you want the music experience to be 10% better than the E90 and the camera to actually be useful. Get the E90 if you want excellent Personal Information Management and excellent media player.
All-in-all, I could not believe that the E90 was not marketed to the U.S. consumers. Because of this stupid bull**** reason, I bought the N95 first, which really fooled me. The E90 is a better phone.
Of course, this is coming from a guy who rarely use the camera, and mostly use the calendar application.
I agree with poetryrocksalot's points. I used my N95 in between my AT&T 8525 and Fuze. I love the N95 for:
- camera quality
- speaker quality
- Nokia SportsTracker. This is an excellent application for GPS tracking. I haven't found anything for WinMo that I like as much.
- smaller size and light weight
- built-in SyncML support
- general quality of hardware
Things I did not like about it that ultimately drove me back to WinMo:
- no touchscreen. I can't stress enough how frustrating it was to go from a touchscreen phone to a non-touchscreen phone.
- no copy/paste support outside of text editing areas. You can copy and paste in the SMS app, for example, but not the text of a web page.
- terrible, clunky email client. ProfiMail is better, but still limited.
- lack of ability to customize the OS. For example, the Nokia web browser comes with several useless bookmarks and bookmark folders that you cannot remove. There are apps that remove them for you, but they return on the next restart as they're built into the ROM.
- application signing
- lack of updates from Nokia
anybody want to trade me theirs? i have a good cdma touch pro i will trade or a htc wizard + sx66
romana said:
I agree with poetryrocksalot's points. I used my N95 in between my AT&T 8525 and Fuze. I love the N95 for:
- camera quality
- speaker quality
- Nokia SportsTracker. This is an excellent application for GPS tracking. I haven't found anything for WinMo that I like as much.
- smaller size and light weight
- built-in SyncML support
- general quality of hardware
Things I did not like about it that ultimately drove me back to WinMo:
- no touchscreen. I can't stress enough how frustrating it was to go from a touchscreen phone to a non-touchscreen phone.
- no copy/paste support outside of text editing areas. You can copy and paste in the SMS app, for example, but not the text of a web page.
- terrible, clunky email client. ProfiMail is better, but still limited.
- lack of ability to customize the OS. For example, the Nokia web browser comes with several useless bookmarks and bookmark folders that you cannot remove. There are apps that remove them for you, but they return on the next restart as they're built into the ROM.
- application signing
- lack of updates from Nokia
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Application signing was a nightmare
If you are looking for one, PM me. My father was talking about selling his yesterday.