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Will the tilt work in japan?

I was wondering if the tilt will work in japan,being its a quad band phone?

1911luver said:
I was wondering if the tilt will work in japan,being its a quad band phone?
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If you want to use a local sim, then make sure your Tilt is unlocked, but, to answer your question, yes, it will work.

Yes, confirmed can use, given its quad band capabilities. However, note that I'm using HTC tytn II.

I doubt it will work everywhere. As far as I am aware, Japan predominantly uses CDMA and GSM availability is more limited. If you're in Tokyo you should be fine, but when I was in Osaka 18 months ago I didn't manage to find a signal at all...

You won't find GSM anywhere in Japan but should be able to find W-CDMA/HSPDA almost anywhere.

I am right now in Japan carrying an unlocked phone. It works just as well as anywhere. There is no GSM anywhere in Japan but the Tilt also supports WCDMA which is what is used here. Usual Quad band (850/900/188/1900 Mhz) GSM Only phones wont work in Japan.

Oops that should have read (850/900/1800/1900)

doesnt Japan uses 2100mhz WCDMA band just like rest of asia and europe? The Kaiser's WCDMA band has 850/1900/2100

I just passed through Narita 2 days ago and during the layover I turned on my Tilt. It picked up a DoCoMo HSDPA signal (I was surprised!).
So, I can confirm that at least as far as getting a signal goes, there is potential for it to work. However, I have no ideas about the prospect of getting a prepaid local SIM that would actually allow you to make and receive calls.

Japan uses WCDMA 2100 Mghz. I go to Japan every 2-3 months and my Tilt works just fine, from Tokyo, Shizuoka, Fuji, Osaka, Kyoto, and on and on. Only comment, power draw on the Japanese networks is noticiably higher than US or EU.
This is why I went to Tilt, for use in Japan and South Korea. I have successfully used the phone in Japan, S. Korea, China, Finland, Germany, Holland, France, UK, Poland, Russia, so far so good.

ATT Tilt does work in Japan!
Like said before, it does work.
I used it several times in Japan, on Softbank 3G and DoCoMo.
Note that I had my Tilt flashed with the original HTC Tytn II ROM.
Also, if you want cheap calls in Japan, get a United Mobile +423 SIM.
You cannot get a local SIM if you are not a resident in Japan.
It's free incoming calls and $0.45 for outgoing to most destinations.
Works great. See http://www.united-mobile.com
The ICQ Sim from the same company (http://www.icqsim.com/) should work too, but I haven't tested it.

vodafone Australia, which diamond ?

Hi All
hoping you can give some advice here, I'm currently with vodafone Australia and looking at buying a diamond.
Currently they are available locally as the Telstra HTC touch diamond (competing network) or via grey import models.
I understand through numerous threads that there is no quad band model as yet and that telstra uses 3g on the 850mhz band, i think but am not sure that vodafone uses 2100mhz for 3g.
I'm confused as to which handset im better off with the telstra one or a grey import.
To make it more confusing I'm going to USA and Sth America, shortly and want to make sure it roams on 3g.
HELP!!!!

no-one even has an opinion?!?
After scouring the rest of the 'net it appears that;
telstra uses 850mhz hsdpa,
vodafone and optus uses 2100mhz umts,
optus will launch 900mhz hsdpa in the near future.
I gather from this that no matter which australian carrier network i use i will not be able to use one carrier or another does someone have any further insight on this?

I think I read on Whirlpool that the Telstra handsets should work on any network - except Optus' 900mhz.
Im with Telstra (work sim), so just went with the Telstra handset.
I've got a Virgin sim I could try in it if you'd like?

that would help . . . cheers
It cant do any harm... I guess my real issue is that I want to make sure I'm getting the highest possible data speeds in whatever country I'm in and I'm not sure what difference there is between the carrier frequency's being used. I get the general impression that only telstra has 7.2mps (theoretical) speed at present, but if i go with a handset that doesnt support 900mhz and i end up with 2100mhz am i missing out on vodafone hsdpa......
im consfused

I was in the same boat when trying to figure out which Diamond to get. I jumped ship and ordered a DIAM130 (Telstra ver.).
Its my understanding that the Optus 900MHz UMTS will be for use in regional areas, whereas 2100MHz for metropolitan. A quick search of the net also indicated that 2100MHz is the dominant UMTS band throughout most of the world, with the exception of the U.S. which uses 850/1900 I believe. So I figure the DIAM130 would be the best bet if you want some sort of 3G connection whatever country you may be in.
If I'm mistaken, can someone please correct me...
EDIT: Looking back at your posts, I'm not sure if you realise this, but the DIAM100 is 900/2100 MHz UMTS and the DIAM130 is 850/2100 MHz UMTS.

Yep, I think the Helstra one with 850mhz/2100mhz looks like the best bet. It would seem that all the carriers in Oz use the 2100mhz in the cities and 850mhz or 900mhz in rural areas.
The US and Sth.America seem to use 850mhz and Europe uses 900mhz/2100mhz.
The whole reason this came up was about 2 weeks ago I went into a Helstra shop and HTC had a marquis with their own staff, they actually stated do not buy a Helstra handset wait until October 1 when the other networks will have quadband handsets. I put this down to them not knowing what they were talking about.
I cant wait any longer though and I think I'm off to JB HiFi to pickup a telstra one, whirlpool forum users have been picking them up for between $750 and $800.

I bought my Diamond from JB (telstra phone bought outright) and I use it with voda prepaid.
I can access the GSM network fine and their 3G network as well. But I force my phone to use GSM only, apparently 3G drinks more battery power.

I am on the vodaphone network ( work). I bought a diamond from a H/K supplier & have never had anytrouble using the 3g network in any of the main capital cities.
Unless you intend to use 3g A LOT in the country areas of australia, then a presumably cheaper grey import DIA 100 will do the trick.
only would suggest that you upgrade to one of the great ROMS available on this site from the generous chefs!
sorry but i think telstra are ripping off the aussie customers with the 130 model.

I have a DIAM100, it works on all networks in Australia including Telstra NextG (yes it DOES work on 850MHz HSDPA). I currently use the phone on the 3 network which use 2100MHz and get very good speeds (in excess of 3.5mbps).

Hi poedgirl,
noticed your'e using an older radio version than whats currently available.
at the risk of telling you to suck eggs, i would suggest you try the 1.00.25.08 Radio rom as the increase in signal phone strength & GPS strength was unbelievable!
thats assuming you are located in Sydney

This Post in the ROMs section pretty much covers which models you can use or will need on the various AU networks.
There are 3 3G Network Frequencies in AUS
850 MHz (NextG) - DIAM130
900 MHz Optus - DIAM100, DIAM110, DIAM200, DIAM300
2100 MHz Optus, Vodafone, Three, Telstra(use Three's) - DIAM100, DIAM110, DIAM200, DIAM300, DIAM130
ALL Diamonds have the 2100MHz frequency!
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I have a grey import DIAM100 running on Three and it has not missed a beat.

poedgirl said:
I have a DIAM100, it works on all networks in Australia including Telstra NextG (yes it DOES work on 850MHz HSDPA)..
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just out of interest how were you able to determine this?

poedgirl said:
I have a DIAM100, it works on all networks in Australia including Telstra NextG (yes it DOES work on 850MHz HSDPA). I currently use the phone on the 3 network which use 2100MHz and get very good speeds (in excess of 3.5mbps).
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sorry to disappoint, I used to think the same, but see this and this You are right - it uses HSDPA, but only on the 2100 network, outside of that network the phone will show "E" for "edge" .(which is GPRS).

Thanks timn2087, that what I thought. I suspect the Telstra branding and web interface can lead you to believe you are on the Telstra NextG network, regardless of whether you are connecting with a phone capable of 850MHz or 2100MHz. My DIAM100 (Same hardware) on 3 behaves exactly as you describe when it roams onto Telstra GSM displaying "E" for "edge".

i bought the helstra one
well i just went for it, and bought the diam130. ive gone the hardspl, radio 05, swift rom. all seems to working.
got if for $760 outright at jb hifi pitt st mall sydney store. no stress haggle said to the guy whats the best price he said $800 i said how about $760 he goes "done".
thanks for all your help everyone

logger said:
Thanks timn2087, that what I thought. I suspect the Telstra branding and web interface can lead you to believe you are on the Telstra NextG network, regardless of whether you are connecting with a phone capable of 850MHz or 2100MHz. My DIAM100 (Same hardware) on 3 behaves exactly as you describe when it roams onto Telstra GSM displaying "E" for "edge".
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correct. The DIAM130 on Next G will show a 3G icon whenever it is on 850 Mhz, occasionally this icon changes to "H" HSDPA when a data connection is active.

timn2087 said:
sorry to disappoint, I used to think the same, but see this and this You are right - it uses HSDPA, but only on the 2100 network, outside of that network the phone will show "E" for "edge" .(which is GPRS).
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Well, for one, the phone gets a HSDPA signal in Mandurah - where there is no 3 coverage (only ever get Telstra roaming there if you're with 3). Also, as others have said, if you are on 3's network, the network shows up as "3Telstra", which it does not on mine.

Unbranded X1 3G working in Canada / USA?

My friend has a unbranded X1, but don't know if can be compatible for the 3G network in Canada or USA? Anyone knows? Or North American ROM needs to be flashed on to enable 3G compatibility with the Carriers in North American??
Thanks in advance for any inputs

White_Hair said:
My friend has a unbranded X1, but don't know if can be compatible for the 3G network in Canada or USA? Anyone knows? Or North American ROM needs to be flashed on to enable 3G compatibility with the Carriers in North American??
Thanks in advance for any inputs
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This is a very vexed issue. Please read the thread on 850Mhz 3G connection.
The short answer is:
1) "unbranded X1" is irrelevant. Use Start>Settings>System>Device ID to find the actual device version, ie. X1i or X1a
2) if your friend is lucky and the Device ID is X1a, then the device is capable of connection to the US/Aus/S America/S Africa 850Mhz 3G band
3) if the Device ID is X1i, then no such luck. This is a hardware issue, not firmware
Both will connect to the 2100Mhz UMTS band which is commonly used in cities, so if your friend never ventures outside cities the X1i should work OK for 3G

I have a question on this, when SE 1st released info about X1, they mentioned that it's Quand band GSM, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS/3G 850, 900, 1900, 2100. Why when they released it, they had to make 2 versions to support different networks? I think that this is stupid, they can do that for branded phones but not for SE unbraded phones, exactly like HTC and the HD, Diamond and Pro. We pay a lot of money for these for so at least give us full functionality... especially that these phones are more of business phones, so it's expected that people travel with these phones....or am i wrong about that?
thanks

I have an X1i in the US an it works flawless on the AT&T network with 3G (inc. HSDPA!!!)

rwholden said:
I have an X1i in the US an it works flawless on the AT&T network with 3G (inc. HSDPA!!!)
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In what part of the USA are you?

George Knighton said:
In what part of the USA are you?
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yeah that would be great to know.. Im in LA and i was looking to get one. I know that ATT 3G works both 850 and 1900, but depending on where you are there's one band stronger than the other.

Thanks for the info man.
I really appreciated.
Does anyone know what what band is Rogers 3G running on?
ianl8888 said:
This is a very vexed issue. Please read the thread on 850Mhz 3G connection.
The short answer is:
1) "unbranded X1" is irrelevant. Use Start>Settings>System>Device ID to find the actual device version, ie. X1i or X1a
2) if your friend is lucky and the Device ID is X1a, then the device is capable of connection to the US/Aus/S America/S Africa 850Mhz 3G band
3) if the Device ID is X1i, then no such luck. This is a hardware issue, not firmware
Both will connect to the 2100Mhz UMTS band which is commonly used in cities, so if your friend never ventures outside cities the X1i should work OK for 3G
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White_Hair said:
Thanks for the info man.
I really appreciated.
Does anyone know what what band is Rogers 3G running on?
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Please read and search before asking...
You answer is HERE (google search, first link displayed for "wikipedia rogers 3G": the band has always been there waiting for you to read it under "Services": Rogers 3G 850MHz) so you need the X1a, the X1i won't pick that band
Sorry to bother but this has been posted before (read and search before asking)

mrabie said:
yeah that would be great to know.. Im in LA and i was looking to get one. I know that ATT 3G works both 850 and 1900, but depending on where you are there's one band stronger than the other.
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I'm also on ATT in Colorado (Windsor/Ft. Collins area) and get 3G almost all the time. I've been all over the state and have got 3G service just about everywhere, only rolling over to Edge from time to time.
Oh and I've got an X1i.

40oz2Freedom said:
I'm also on ATT in Colorado (Windsor/Ft. Collins area) and get 3G almost all the time. I've been all over the state and have got 3G service just about everywhere, only rolling over to Edge from time to time.
Oh and I've got an X1i.
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Gr8 thanks for the info

yeah, I don't get any 3G in canada with my X1i.
I live in Vancouver BC, always in Edge.
I have had an occurence once, but only once! =[

I get HSDPA in the Dallas\Ft. Worth Area, and in Lawton, OK. Everywhere else I go I'm on Edge. And this is with a X1a on ATT.

ianl8888 said:
This is a very vexed issue. Please read the thread on 850Mhz 3G connection.
The short answer is:
1) "unbranded X1" is irrelevant. Use Start>Settings>System>Device ID to find the actual device version, ie. X1i or X1a
2) if your friend is lucky and the Device ID is X1a, then the device is capable of connection to the US/Aus/S America/S Africa 850Mhz 3G band
3) if the Device ID is X1i, then no such luck. This is a hardware issue, not firmware
Both will connect to the 2100Mhz UMTS band which is commonly used in cities, so if your friend never ventures outside cities the X1i should work OK for 3G
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Nobody in the US uses 2100MHz, AFAIK, and I'm pretty sure Canada follows the same frequencies.
1900, on the other hand, is supported by the X1i, which is used by AT&T, Rogers, and Bell.
The downside is that if you're unfortunate enough to use T-Mobile, the network uses 850MHz only, and you're stuck with EDGE.

man guy this is too simple to find and you open a thread for this??!!??!?! STOP CLOGGING THE FORUMS!!!!!

convert 3g from us to european

Hi,
I bought my HTC diamond in the US, but live in europe.
Obviously, I can't connect to the 3g network here.
Is there anything I could do? If I install European ROM will it work?
if so - which ROM should I install?
My current ROM - 1.93.422.4 WWE, 08/13/08
Thanks for your help,
Mike

It is not about the ROM but the hardware of the Diamond. There are different hardware revisions. Go to bootloader and check what you have.
It is something like DIAM100

Diam110, 64m, spl-1.93.0000
anything i can do?
thanks man!

giladmichael said:
anything i can do?
thanks man!
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Most european diamonds are diam100 i think, you need to check what bands you diamond supports then check the bands the network/s you wanna use, use for there 3G/HSDPA Services, see if any are compatible

how do i check which bands my diamond supports?

I just had a look on google for you mate and this is what i came up with
The US 3G unlocked Diamond supports AT&T's 850/1900MHz HSDPA network, but not T-Mobile's US 3G bands. It is dual band 3G, so there's also no support for Euro 3G. It's a quad band GSM world phone with EDGE (850/900/1800/1900MHz), and that means you can make a phone call anywhere in the world GSM service is available, and you'll have access to the slower GPRS and EDGE data networks across the world. Since it's unlocked, you can use it with any carrier's SIM.
So it looks like it duznt support Euro 3G Bands, Sorry

thats a shame..
thanks anyway

thats a shame..
thanks anyway

I cant get 3G/HSDPA with orange here anyway, it dont bother me, i just steal broadband from unsecure wifi routers lol

*Double Post* Thats wot u get for stealing broadband lol

I'm in an opposites position here...
Live in the US with a European DIAM100...lol

Hello I have a European and like to trade it for a US version.
Also I'm sure like in in almost any Phones the UMTS Antenna is the same it is only limited by the Software (Radio) Big guys even on XDA developers denid that on the new Google Nexus one but HTC/Google confirmed it is ONly the "RADIO". GUess there is the whole world with one Standard and USA/ Canada with least than 6 different standards not compatibel to the rest of the World. THe Hardware guys pruduce for this development Country USA 7 extra and incompatibel HArdware version. It is haard to beleive and from any manufacture standpoint totaly inefficent.
So i would try first the regular Radios and good luck.

[Q] Will HTC HD7 (T-Mobile) work in India for 3G?

Hello All,
I have brought an unlocked HTC HD7 (T-Mobile) from USA and according to the specs given at HTC US site, It says that it supports UMTS 2100 and AWS 1700/2100 band for 3G.
Can anyone confirm on having used HTC HD7 (T-Mobile) in India on Tata DoCoMo or BSNL network for 3G?
Thanks
Shaju

well, i already bought mine from us and i use it in Saudi Arabia with no problems at all with 3g, just to be sure contact your telecom company and ask them if it is supported or not.
regards

Theoretically, yes, it should work.
I'll be giving it a shot on Vodafone (in Mumbai) once they launch their 3G service, shortly, but if anyone else has confirmation, that'd be great to know.

Hello saud_19, what is 3g band used by your service provider? Is it UMTS 2100 or AWS 1700/2100?
Thanks,
Shaju

well Shaju, unfortunately i am not sure but i think it is 2100.
: )

shajus said:
Hello All,
I have brought an unlocked HTC HD7 (T-Mobile) from USA and according to the specs given at HTC US site, It says that it supports UMTS 2100 and AWS 1700/2100 band for 3G.
Can anyone confirm on having used HTC HD7 (T-Mobile) in India on Tata DoCoMo or BSNL network for 3G?
Thanks
Shaju
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Hey Shaju,
Did u try the HTC HD7 bought in US? Did it work? Did u face any issues?
Regards
Ananth

Most likely you wont get much out of your HD7 cellphone in india..
you will be combarded with spam because thats where all the marketing place is ring ring and they spam you with advertice. Infact indian doesnt have the best coverage at all... its a poor country to beging with.
Its best you buy a phone that works in your town and that make sure it has coverage all over with your local provider.

sandrax2020 said:
Most likely you wont get much out of your HD7 cellphone in india..
you will be combarded with spam because thats where all the marketing place is ring ring and they spam you with advertice. Infact indian doesnt have the best coverage at all... its a poor country to beging with.
Its best you buy a phone that works in your town and that make sure it has coverage all over with your local provider.
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First of all lemme tell you all, that HD7 works great in India, got hold of one in Nov last year and have been using it with impressive results.
There are some issues with the marketplace, but a workaround is available.
Secondly about India being poor, I guess this is not the forum to take offense, to what clearly is OFFENSIVE.
3g services are lagging, as its still in a nascent stage. I'm getting between decent to good speeds on Airtel 3g in Delhi
Cheers

sandrax2020 said:
Most likely you wont get much out of your HD7 cellphone in india..
you will be combarded with spam because thats where all the marketing place is ring ring and they spam you with advertice. Infact indian doesnt have the best coverage at all... its a poor country to beging with.
Its best you buy a phone that works in your town and that make sure it has coverage all over with your local provider.
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Dumb-ass ignoramus comments.
A TMOUS HD7 will get 3G on 2100 band.

Great, this means I won't regret my impulse buy of a TMOUS HD7 last week.

It works too where I live, we a UMTS 2100 network. But speed sucks!! think it does not support hsdpa speeds on UMTS 2100 networks cuz mine cant get pass 35KB/s download speed