Will the tilt work in japan? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

I was wondering if the tilt will work in japan,being its a quad band phone?

1911luver said:
I was wondering if the tilt will work in japan,being its a quad band phone?
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If you want to use a local sim, then make sure your Tilt is unlocked, but, to answer your question, yes, it will work.

Yes, confirmed can use, given its quad band capabilities. However, note that I'm using HTC tytn II.

I doubt it will work everywhere. As far as I am aware, Japan predominantly uses CDMA and GSM availability is more limited. If you're in Tokyo you should be fine, but when I was in Osaka 18 months ago I didn't manage to find a signal at all...

You won't find GSM anywhere in Japan but should be able to find W-CDMA/HSPDA almost anywhere.

I am right now in Japan carrying an unlocked phone. It works just as well as anywhere. There is no GSM anywhere in Japan but the Tilt also supports WCDMA which is what is used here. Usual Quad band (850/900/188/1900 Mhz) GSM Only phones wont work in Japan.

Oops that should have read (850/900/1800/1900)

doesnt Japan uses 2100mhz WCDMA band just like rest of asia and europe? The Kaiser's WCDMA band has 850/1900/2100

I just passed through Narita 2 days ago and during the layover I turned on my Tilt. It picked up a DoCoMo HSDPA signal (I was surprised!).
So, I can confirm that at least as far as getting a signal goes, there is potential for it to work. However, I have no ideas about the prospect of getting a prepaid local SIM that would actually allow you to make and receive calls.

Japan uses WCDMA 2100 Mghz. I go to Japan every 2-3 months and my Tilt works just fine, from Tokyo, Shizuoka, Fuji, Osaka, Kyoto, and on and on. Only comment, power draw on the Japanese networks is noticiably higher than US or EU.
This is why I went to Tilt, for use in Japan and South Korea. I have successfully used the phone in Japan, S. Korea, China, Finland, Germany, Holland, France, UK, Poland, Russia, so far so good.

ATT Tilt does work in Japan!
Like said before, it does work.
I used it several times in Japan, on Softbank 3G and DoCoMo.
Note that I had my Tilt flashed with the original HTC Tytn II ROM.
Also, if you want cheap calls in Japan, get a United Mobile +423 SIM.
You cannot get a local SIM if you are not a resident in Japan.
It's free incoming calls and $0.45 for outgoing to most destinations.
Works great. See http://www.united-mobile.com
The ICQ Sim from the same company (http://www.icqsim.com/) should work too, but I haven't tested it.

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3G usage woldwide ?

Hi,
I recently bought a T-Mobile MDA Vario III from T-Mobile Netherlands.
Visiting the US I discovered this phone does not support 3G in the US.
My US colleague liked the phone so much, and had a look at the AT&T Tilt. The big difference is ofcourse the missing frontcamera, but this one works in the US on 3G. Are there any AT&T Tilt users here that have tried that phone in Europe and/or Asia and got 3G or HSDPA there ?
I suspect there are different versions of this phone around with different frequency support. Or should I have bought a HTC version, are they possibly enabled to use 3G in both US, Europe and Asia ?
Any hints to enable 3G on my phone while visiting the US would be appreciated !
Regards,
Taco
Umm, unless the Vario III is crippled (in terms of frequencies supported), the Kaiser supports all currently 3G frequencies worldwide - 850, 1900, 2100MHz. I used my TyTN II in Korea (2100) and obviously in the US (850/1900)...According to gsm.org, Netherlands TMo uses 2100 also.
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/index.shtml
T-Mobile USA does not yet have 3G. They'll be on the the new bands someday (and your Kaiser doesn't support those bands). Most likely you'd find yourself on the T-Mobile network with GSM-only.
If you want 3G in the US, you'll probably need to purchase a prepaid card from AT&T...
I can swith to the AT&T network with no problem, still only Edge....
What I am suspecting is that 3G is on different frequencies/bands in the US, and the european models don't support them ....
Question still remains: has a AT&T Tilt user been to Europe or Asia and saw that 3G worked there ? My colleague wants to buy one ...
Thanks !
tscargo said:
I can swith to the AT&T network with no problem, still only Edge....
What I am suspecting is that 3G is on different frequencies/bands in the US, and the european models don't support them ....
Question still remains: has a AT&T Tilt user been to Europe or Asia and saw that 3G worked there ? My colleague wants to buy one ...
Thanks !
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The Tilt defintiely works in Asia and Europe. And I'm fairly certain that the Vario III will work on 3G in the US as well.
tscargo said:
I can swith to the AT&T network with no problem, still only Edge....
What I am suspecting is that 3G is on different frequencies/bands in the US, and the european models don't support them ....
Question still remains: has a AT&T Tilt user been to Europe or Asia and saw that 3G worked there ? My colleague wants to buy one ...
Thanks !
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This is conjecture on my part, but I'll bet that T-Mobile Europe and AT&T do not have a 3G roaming agreement in place in the US...

Best prices on GSM EDGE Diamond for T-Mobile

I am intested in purchasing an unlocked Diamond that I can use on the T-Mobile USA network with my existing SIM card. I'm perfectly happy with EDGE speeds as I don't really use the PDA that much for work. (I use a Verizon 3G wireless card for my work on a laptop.) Plus I'm happy paying $19/month for EDGE compared to 60/month. I'm hoping to enable the 850MHz with the new ROM.
Do you recommend I wait for the GSM 3G US version of the Diamond to arrive? How long of a wait do you think?
If I decide to just get the EDGE only Diamond what is the best price and who would you recommend I purchase it from?
Thanks!
I'm too waiting for T-Mobile USA 3G to be available. It's very unlikely the Diamond will be on TMo USA in the next few months. (But then what do I know?) IFAIK, so far I the only T-Mo USA 3G phone leaked out is HTC Kaiser - http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=537
I bought my Diamond from this guy last week - http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-TOUCH-DIAMO...RKS-WITH-AT-T_W0QQitemZ140254188917QQihZ004QQ - it already comes 850 enabled by HTC.
I love the Diamond so far! There is occasional sound issue (I had it twice in the week I have the phone) but it's not a big deal for me compared to what I get with the phone.
2nd, you can buy them with 850mhz enabled (meaning everything works with T-Mobile but 3G) or you can flash it yourself easily. If you're okay with EDGE, look for any Diamond that's Quad-Band and you'll get everything you want.
i have had my quad band diamond for 2 days. Works great on T-Mobile. DOn't currently have 3G on t-mobile AFAIK here anyway. Switched from the Kaise which was LAME and TOO BIG
Just ordered mine tonight. Thanks for the feedback!
Actually, I just thought of something... If your area is a 3G zone with T-mobile (nowhere but LV yet I think), you'll get 3G as long as it's on the 2100mhz band and not the 1700mhz they also use. The Diamond has a 900/2100mhz UMTS band capability, so half of T-Mobile's 3G will work.

vodafone Australia, which diamond ?

Hi All
hoping you can give some advice here, I'm currently with vodafone Australia and looking at buying a diamond.
Currently they are available locally as the Telstra HTC touch diamond (competing network) or via grey import models.
I understand through numerous threads that there is no quad band model as yet and that telstra uses 3g on the 850mhz band, i think but am not sure that vodafone uses 2100mhz for 3g.
I'm confused as to which handset im better off with the telstra one or a grey import.
To make it more confusing I'm going to USA and Sth America, shortly and want to make sure it roams on 3g.
HELP!!!!
no-one even has an opinion?!?
After scouring the rest of the 'net it appears that;
telstra uses 850mhz hsdpa,
vodafone and optus uses 2100mhz umts,
optus will launch 900mhz hsdpa in the near future.
I gather from this that no matter which australian carrier network i use i will not be able to use one carrier or another does someone have any further insight on this?
I think I read on Whirlpool that the Telstra handsets should work on any network - except Optus' 900mhz.
Im with Telstra (work sim), so just went with the Telstra handset.
I've got a Virgin sim I could try in it if you'd like?
that would help . . . cheers
It cant do any harm... I guess my real issue is that I want to make sure I'm getting the highest possible data speeds in whatever country I'm in and I'm not sure what difference there is between the carrier frequency's being used. I get the general impression that only telstra has 7.2mps (theoretical) speed at present, but if i go with a handset that doesnt support 900mhz and i end up with 2100mhz am i missing out on vodafone hsdpa......
im consfused
I was in the same boat when trying to figure out which Diamond to get. I jumped ship and ordered a DIAM130 (Telstra ver.).
Its my understanding that the Optus 900MHz UMTS will be for use in regional areas, whereas 2100MHz for metropolitan. A quick search of the net also indicated that 2100MHz is the dominant UMTS band throughout most of the world, with the exception of the U.S. which uses 850/1900 I believe. So I figure the DIAM130 would be the best bet if you want some sort of 3G connection whatever country you may be in.
If I'm mistaken, can someone please correct me...
EDIT: Looking back at your posts, I'm not sure if you realise this, but the DIAM100 is 900/2100 MHz UMTS and the DIAM130 is 850/2100 MHz UMTS.
Yep, I think the Helstra one with 850mhz/2100mhz looks like the best bet. It would seem that all the carriers in Oz use the 2100mhz in the cities and 850mhz or 900mhz in rural areas.
The US and Sth.America seem to use 850mhz and Europe uses 900mhz/2100mhz.
The whole reason this came up was about 2 weeks ago I went into a Helstra shop and HTC had a marquis with their own staff, they actually stated do not buy a Helstra handset wait until October 1 when the other networks will have quadband handsets. I put this down to them not knowing what they were talking about.
I cant wait any longer though and I think I'm off to JB HiFi to pickup a telstra one, whirlpool forum users have been picking them up for between $750 and $800.
I bought my Diamond from JB (telstra phone bought outright) and I use it with voda prepaid.
I can access the GSM network fine and their 3G network as well. But I force my phone to use GSM only, apparently 3G drinks more battery power.
I am on the vodaphone network ( work). I bought a diamond from a H/K supplier & have never had anytrouble using the 3g network in any of the main capital cities.
Unless you intend to use 3g A LOT in the country areas of australia, then a presumably cheaper grey import DIA 100 will do the trick.
only would suggest that you upgrade to one of the great ROMS available on this site from the generous chefs!
sorry but i think telstra are ripping off the aussie customers with the 130 model.
I have a DIAM100, it works on all networks in Australia including Telstra NextG (yes it DOES work on 850MHz HSDPA). I currently use the phone on the 3 network which use 2100MHz and get very good speeds (in excess of 3.5mbps).
Hi poedgirl,
noticed your'e using an older radio version than whats currently available.
at the risk of telling you to suck eggs, i would suggest you try the 1.00.25.08 Radio rom as the increase in signal phone strength & GPS strength was unbelievable!
thats assuming you are located in Sydney
This Post in the ROMs section pretty much covers which models you can use or will need on the various AU networks.
There are 3 3G Network Frequencies in AUS
850 MHz (NextG) - DIAM130
900 MHz Optus - DIAM100, DIAM110, DIAM200, DIAM300
2100 MHz Optus, Vodafone, Three, Telstra(use Three's) - DIAM100, DIAM110, DIAM200, DIAM300, DIAM130
ALL Diamonds have the 2100MHz frequency!
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I have a grey import DIAM100 running on Three and it has not missed a beat.
poedgirl said:
I have a DIAM100, it works on all networks in Australia including Telstra NextG (yes it DOES work on 850MHz HSDPA)..
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just out of interest how were you able to determine this?
poedgirl said:
I have a DIAM100, it works on all networks in Australia including Telstra NextG (yes it DOES work on 850MHz HSDPA). I currently use the phone on the 3 network which use 2100MHz and get very good speeds (in excess of 3.5mbps).
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sorry to disappoint, I used to think the same, but see this and this You are right - it uses HSDPA, but only on the 2100 network, outside of that network the phone will show "E" for "edge" .(which is GPRS).
Thanks timn2087, that what I thought. I suspect the Telstra branding and web interface can lead you to believe you are on the Telstra NextG network, regardless of whether you are connecting with a phone capable of 850MHz or 2100MHz. My DIAM100 (Same hardware) on 3 behaves exactly as you describe when it roams onto Telstra GSM displaying "E" for "edge".
i bought the helstra one
well i just went for it, and bought the diam130. ive gone the hardspl, radio 05, swift rom. all seems to working.
got if for $760 outright at jb hifi pitt st mall sydney store. no stress haggle said to the guy whats the best price he said $800 i said how about $760 he goes "done".
thanks for all your help everyone
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Thanks timn2087, that what I thought. I suspect the Telstra branding and web interface can lead you to believe you are on the Telstra NextG network, regardless of whether you are connecting with a phone capable of 850MHz or 2100MHz. My DIAM100 (Same hardware) on 3 behaves exactly as you describe when it roams onto Telstra GSM displaying "E" for "edge".
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correct. The DIAM130 on Next G will show a 3G icon whenever it is on 850 Mhz, occasionally this icon changes to "H" HSDPA when a data connection is active.
timn2087 said:
sorry to disappoint, I used to think the same, but see this and this You are right - it uses HSDPA, but only on the 2100 network, outside of that network the phone will show "E" for "edge" .(which is GPRS).
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Well, for one, the phone gets a HSDPA signal in Mandurah - where there is no 3 coverage (only ever get Telstra roaming there if you're with 3). Also, as others have said, if you are on 3's network, the network shows up as "3Telstra", which it does not on mine.

X1a, 3G in taiwan?

I understand X1a is the north american version which has 850/1800/2100 bands and X1i has 900/1800/2100. 3G will work well with X1a in Canada, but X1i doesn't work too well.
When in Taiwan, I had the chance to test my X1i and it received 3g signals.
I was wondering whether an X1a would be able to get 3g signals as well?
I found a site that lists the frequencies for different countries:
www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
Taiwan uses 900/1800 but it lists 3G as 2100, so I'm a bit confused as to whether an X1i (which has 2100) would work.
Here in my country, both the i and the a have working 3G. It really depends on what the Telcos are using.
Thanks so much for replying..
I'm using Taiwan mobile
A website tells me it uses
900/1800, but 3G is 2100
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_tw.shtml
Since the X1a has 2100, it is capable of using 3G?
I'm using Xperia X1a and taiwan mobile operator.. and i'm able to use video call,3G and HSDPA connection without any problem..
Thank You so much for this reply!
I'm in Toronto and have an x1i. I'm under Fido, and about 2 or 3 months ago i started up pick up a 3G+ signal. Is anyone else getting this? I don't have a data plan so i haven't check if it actually works.
Could it possibly be that I'm roaming??? I'm roaming icon is always on, but that may be a glitch of a custom rom that I'm using.
Thanks
I'm in vancouver right now and my X1i uses 3G connection. I thought it was because of the olympics that they set that up.

Is there a list of countries that the Droid 4 supports GSM?

I've seen users say that it works in Canada or Russia, but is there a definite list somewhere of countries/carriers it supports? My cousin wants to know if the phone will work in Spain.
It should work fine. Its GSM part of radio chip is quad-band (850/900/1800/1900 MHz) which means it supports all existing GSM frequencies. I'm using it in the Czech Republic and have seen it reported working also in the Netherlands, France, UK, Germany and Poland.
3G should work fine also. 4G (LTE) will be a problem, as it supports only 700 MHz Band 13 used only by Verizon and some carrier in Uzbekistan, but for normal use (not as a modem for computer's primary connection) 3G is fast enough...
Since it's working fine ine France (i'm actually using it) it will work in Spain for sure because for GSM this is the same frequencies.
It won't work for 4G as said by LuH. For me it's not a big lost because 4G is not ready yet in frnace, and i've heard that the first company who will sell 4G will ask for 60€ or more a month... Quite expensive ! lol
I started a list in my thread about getting the Droid 4 working in the UK. It's in post 3. If you get it working on another carrier, please reply there and I'll keep it updated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28647511&postcount=3
I really ought to edit the title of that thread, but don't seem to have permission to do so.

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