Why the gps takes much in... - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

...find satellites?.
Hi. Arranco the tomtom, or the destinator, or the miomap and takes almost fifteen or twenty minutes the gps in find satellites. Are there any problems, something to be corrected in the registry for that go well?. This pass to open field. Thanks and a greeting.

The first time you use it it can take some time (unless you run quickgps). After that though, it should take less than a minute.

if you're in a new area running the included 'QuickGPS' (Start -> Programs -> Tools -> QuickGPS) will help speed up the processes. As noted after you get your first connection the rest go much faster.
Mine took about 2 minutes the first time, and now reliably connect in 10 - 15 seconds as i'm moving

Mine takes several minutes almost every time. In broad open clear view while moving it does maybee 30seconds at best.

i'm also using GPS Gate (?) and with iGO and TomTom, i get locks in 15-30 seconds... it baffles me why some of us Kaiser/Tilt users have different experiences...

Best thing to do is to install GPS Viewer and then use it to give a "cold start" to gps. My Tom Tom connects within a minute when I do that. The program is free, and you can find it from Google or by searching this forum.

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Have you got a slow fix? Don't worry...I'll improve it!

Eheh, I didn't want to believe to it, but it seems to work
Install this small freeware and run it BEFORE you launch any GPS program: it downloads approximately 35 kbytes on your ppc and it allows you to have a rapid fix (a warm fix even if it should be a cold one).
Try it and write about your experience.
Ciao
I add some explanations on the program.
QGPS: improve your TTFF to seconds!
If you have a PPC with built-in GPS - this software is for you.
This is a small freeware that downloads Ephemeris data to your PPC using an internet connection with Activesync. If your GPS was off for more than 4 hours, then the next time you start it up you get a cold start , where the Ephemeris data needs to be DL to the receiver. This can take a few seconds to a few minutes, depending on your device and location.
The software downloads this data to your PPC so that you , in fact , get a warm start!
Just start the program, click the Connect button (no need for the 10 days data), and within a few seconds , you get the most up-to-date data. Now go outside and start your GPS program - you'll get a fix within 10 seconds!
sorry ... no fix after 30 secs
here after 67 sec.
sAnTeE said:
Eheh, I didn't want to believe to it, but it seems to work
Install this small freeware and run it BEFORE you launch any GPS program: it downloads approximately 35 kbytes on your ppc and it allows you to have a rapid fix (a warm fix even if it should be a cold one).
Try it and write about your experience.
Ciao
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OH Yesss. Very cool! This worked for me. I did a soft reset which usually means the GPS takes 1 minute or more under the most ideal conditions, much longer if you are moving or around buildings. After downloading the data with this app, it locked about 10 seconds after the GPS was recognized by the system. However it failed to initiate a connection automatically, I had to manually connect to IE to get a connection, then it downloaded the data every time.
THANKS!
Tried with an HP Travel Companion iPAQ rx5935 of a colleague here at work and it works fine too.
And as Matterhorn said: It failed to initiate a connection, I have to start IE first... then download the data.
Thanks a lot.
97 secs to have a fix , i am a quiet disappointed
i use the last radio
extenue said:
97 secs to have a fix , i am a quiet disappointed
i use the last radio
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I did not compute exactly the time needed for the HP. It was something around 1min too. But without this soft... we was around 5 min.
Also... It highly depends on the area where you are (discovered area… buildings...)
Matterhorn said:
OH Yesss. Very cool! This worked for me. I did a soft reset which usually means the GPS takes 1 minute or more under the most ideal conditions, much longer if you are moving or around buildings. After downloading the data with this app, it locked about 10 seconds after the GPS was recognized by the system. However it failed to initiate a connection automatically, I had to manually connect to IE to get a connection, then it downloaded the data every time.
THANKS!
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I also had to establish the connection manually
i didn't establish the connection manually
Santae, which version of q-gps are that you have posted? 2.03???
i found here 2.03 http://forum.pocketpcitalia.com/download/gpsct_1.27.2147.0. 4.1099.123.0.it.cab
can someone load on rapidhshare?
exist 2.06 version too
http://www.avaricum.net/
Yes, this was stolen from http://www.avaricum.net/ and it only works on the Globallocate GPS chip of the HP hw6515/6915, it will have zero impact on the Qualcomm chip of the P3600 or of a SiRFstarIII based unit. This thread should be locked before more people waste their time with it.
GpsPasSion said:
Yes, this was stolen from http://www.avaricum.net/ and it only works on the Globallocate GPS chip of the HP hw6515/6915, it will have zero impact on the Qualcomm chip of the P3600 or of a SiRFstarIII based unit. This thread should be locked before more people waste their time with it.
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OMG...placebo effect!
stranged, because i get now a very quick fix.
faster then before.!!!!
me too... from 4 minutes to 67 seconds
GpsPasSion said:
Yes, this was stolen from http://www.avaricum.net/ and it only works on the Globallocate GPS chip of the HP hw6515/6915, it will have zero impact on the Qualcomm chip of the P3600 or of a SiRFstarIII based unit. This thread should be locked before more people waste their time with it.
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Actually, I think "stolen" might be the wrong word, it looks to be an open download to me.
Normally it takes about 5 minutes or longer in front of my window to get a fix, no I got a fix in less than 1 minute, thanks man thats great!
It works great for me. Way faster than before. Thanks

[Need Advice] GPS problem

I have been facing problem with my Kaiser's GPS.
1. It takes me 40 mins ++ (max 1 hr and 20 mins) to fix signal.
2. After i fixed the signal, and after i close my garmin/mapking. it start from 0 again.....another 40 mins ++ to fix.
3. My quickgps is updated.
What is the problem? Could it be the hardward?
And, i have hard reset 4 times...and it still the same.
Btw, i have Garmin mobile XT and mapking installed.
Please advise. Thanks
There are lots of threads on these forums about the TomTom GPS - They've got a lot of info about configuring the set-up which may also be relevant to your Garmin - Look at the Wiki, stickies and try a search - best to use Mike Channon's google search set-up because it's better than the in-built one.
I use TomTom and I've noticed that the time it takes to get a fix will vary depending on which Rom I use, sometimes as long as 30-40 minutes, but normally within 1 minute. I've found that Sleuth's Rom seems to be consistently best for quick gps fixes - but this might just be coincidence that the weather and other conditions were always more favourable at the time.
I can advise the following which works for me:
1. Keep your quickGPS up to date.
2. Run gpsTest at least once to get the correct com port and baud rate for your gps chip.
3. Before you start your gps EACH time, run either gpsTest or VisualGPSce until they get a fix. (For some reason they fix much quicker than my Tomtom - usually seconds after the gps device is found).
4. After you get a fix with one of the above programs then you can start your Garmin program.
Good Luck.

How long does it take you to "seek GPS satelites" ?

Mine can take anywhere from 10 seconds to 10+ minutes.. in the same area (where I know i can get 6+ satelites). =/
wow
it is a custom rom? use quickGPS, run then hit the download button then use which ever GPS software you want to use. it helps a lot.
Yeah mine takes forever the first time it seems like but once I've found satelites it doesn't take as long that day or the next.
ah that might be it.. because i know I had quickGPS download stuff for me previously... and now it didnt.. so ill download the file and see how it goes.. thx for ur help
Will quick gps need to be working at the background or could I just close it after I download and start my gps program? Thanks
Just use QuickGPS, hit download and you can quit QuickGPS.
Between 10 and 120 seconds, usually, even when updated with QuickGPS.
Mine usually takes about 30 seconds to get its fix.
Note: I always keep QuickGPS up-to-date
5/15 secs.
Depends on radio rom probably also. Last time I poked at it, 1.27.15.32 was the slowest.
my gps takes almost forever to get a sat fix. and my quickgps would always give me a cannot download message everytime i try to download... anyone know the issue?
I have my QuickGPS set to auto download when it needs to, so as long as I'm not in a building with a steel roof I can usually get a GPS lock in under 10 seconds.
-Jay
ChInEsE ChIcKeN said:
my gps takes almost forever to get a sat fix. and my quickgps would always give me a cannot download message everytime i try to download... anyone know the issue?
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Apparently mine too =(
I have just started playing with Destinator 7 last night. I was indoors and was not able to get signal in a 10 minute period before quitting the program (it was also cloudy out side too).
I Used to have Earthcomber. That took about 3 minutes indoors but I Finally got my GPS Icon Green. Never tried it outside, cause There are no maps of mexico with Earthcomber yet.
Do some programs get manage the reception better than others? Or is it pretty much equal?
Just using TomTom i can get a fix in about 20 secs. I don't even have to run Quick GPS.
Jimmyy said:
Apparently mine too =(
I have just started playing with Destinator 7 last night. I was indoors and was not able to get signal in a 10 minute period before quitting the program (it was also cloudy out side too).
I Used to have Earthcomber. That took about 3 minutes indoors but I Finally got my GPS Icon Green. Never tried it outside, cause There are no maps of mexico with Earthcomber yet.
Do some programs get manage the reception better than others? Or is it pretty much equal?
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Try google maps. When you open Google Maps click on the menu. There is an option called "Use GPS". Select that line and it will use the GPS antenna to locate you.
Jay2TheRescue said:
Try google maps. When you open Google Maps click on the menu. There is an option called "Use GPS". Select that line and it will use the GPS antenna to locate you.
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Thanks for the tip, google maps was one of the first map softwares I installed and I really enjoyed it.
Actually I take back what I said on my last post. I didn't realize how much impact on GPS reception is caused by being indoors (which was where I played a little with Destinator right after installing it earlier today).
When I had to go to class, just for kicks, I got the directions for my house to my university routed, and I got 8 sat reception on a cloudy rainy day in 15 maybe 20 seconds. The precision and drections are outstanding. I hear Destinator is bad, I did not find it bad at all. I also purchased Igo, which I will try tomorrow. I had so much fun with my first real GPS experience XD.
i run quick GPS then i run GPStool to get a good signal...then i run googlemaps and get a signal in 5secs.
Is this a tool i must download or is this build in tomtom?
THe tomtom version i have is 6.020.
p-de-geus said:
Is this a tool i must download or is this build in tomtom?
THe tomtom version i have is 6.020.
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Its not built into TomTom, its a separate download.
-Jay
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lennie said:
it is a custom rom? use quickGPS, run then hit the download button then use which ever GPS software you want to use. it helps a lot.
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Where can i find quick GPS i remember i saw it sometime ago but cant fin it again thanks for the help.
NEVERMIND I FOUND IT!!!!!!

GPS Not Working

Just got my 8925 and cannot get the GPS to interface with TomTom. It keeps saying GPS connection not found. Is there something special to do to activate the GPS? I have run the QuickGPS.
Thanks in advance,
Tomy51
tried going outside?
Yes, I went outside, tried the 3 different types of GPS's TomTom has ans still not connection.
tomy51 said:
Yes, I went outside, tried the 3 different types of GPS's TomTom has ans still not connection.
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ok i run tomtom as well here is what i do:
1) download quickgps update
2) open gpsrouter com4 baud 4800 (search it if you don't have it)
3) run gpstest (under settings make sure it is at com4 baud 4800)
4) open tomtom (change preferences>show gps stutus>configure> try other NMEA set at com4 baud 4800 or Built-in GPS receiver. I tend to get a quicker fix using other NMEA)
good luck.
Thanks, that would probably explain why my gps isn't working as I do not have gpsrouter or gpstest. I'l go searching the forum to try and find it. Knew it had to be something, thanks agian for the help.
You really shouldn't (don't) need those things to make TomTom work. Just make sure TomTom is set to use the internal GPS (or set it to COM4 etc as above, depending on the version you have).
I use the TomTom that came on CD with the phone (not every carrier includes it) and it works perfectly, but you do need to be patient when you first start it up. Initially, it was always say "No GPS device!" for a good few moments before the internal GPS starts up, and then you'll get "Waiting for a valid GPS signal" - how long it waits then is down to your position etc. If you're outside with a good view of the sky - and your QuickGPS data is up to date - it could just be a few seconds - or you might be waiting forever if you're indoors/covered etc.
Does the "No GPS device!" message dissapear after a few moments for you? If it does then all is fine, you may just need to be more patient. If it doesn't, and it's constantly saying that, then something is misconfigured somewhere.
Boinng said:
You really shouldn't (don't) need those things to make TomTom work. Just make sure TomTom is set to use the internal GPS (or set it to COM4 etc as above, depending on the version you have).
I use the TomTom that came on CD with the phone (not every carrier includes it) and it works perfectly, but you do need to be patient when you first start it up. Initially, it was always say "No GPS device!" for a good few moments before the internal GPS starts up, and then you'll get "Waiting for a valid GPS signal" - how long it waits then is down to your position etc. If you're outside with a good view of the sky - and your QuickGPS data is up to date - it could just be a few seconds - or you might be waiting forever if you're indoors/covered etc.
Does the "No GPS device!" message dissapear after a few moments for you? If it does then all is fine, you may just need to be more patient. If it doesn't, and it's constantly saying that, then something is misconfigured somewhere.
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The ATT tilt US version doesn't come with tomtom. I have had a purchased tomtom and the cab that is floating around this forum. The only way i can get it to work with either version is to have gpstest and quickgps. But without gpsrouter i usually have to wait 10mins for a fix. Kinda sucks but hey at least it works now.
redbandana said:
The ATT tilt US version doesn't come with tomtom. I have had a purchased tomtom and the cab that is floating around this forum. The only way i can get it to work with either version is to have gpstest and quickgps. But without gpsrouter i usually have to wait 10mins for a fix. Kinda sucks but hey at least it works now.
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That's a real shame, because it works perfectly with the HTC rom. I wonder what AT&T have done to cripple it?
I just tried mine in the office and despite being inside (though on the top floor) it still had me located in about 30 seconds. There's a real joy in having a full-on, reliable TomTom in your phone - I recommend a ROM upgrade!
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That's a real shame, because it works perfectly with the HTC rom. I wonder what AT&T have done to cripple it?
I just tried mine in the office and despite being inside (though on the top floor) it still had me located in about 30 seconds. There's a real joy in having a full-on, reliable TomTom in your phone - I recommend a ROM upgrade!
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tomtom just sucks without support applications i guess. I have dutty's april 16th and i get a fix within 10-30 seconds now. Yes, I as well can get a fix from my basement within a minute if I have used my tomtom outdoors within the last quickgps upload.

GPS Question / Batch file question

So it's become aware to me that for whatever reason, apps (GPS Photo, TomTom, Google Maps) are unable to get a GPS fix unless I first start up Chartcross GPS Test.
So first of all, why is this? Is the GPS Test software just tweaked to get a quick and dirty fix, or is it doing something that normal GPS software isn't?
Finally, do Windows Mobile devices run batch files? In desktop Windows I could write a batch file that, when run, would launch GPS Test PLUS whatever app I wanted, TomTom for example, and when TomTom is terminated, GPS Test is automatically ended. That would simplify this GPS quirk.
You could use MortScript (search here) to set up a script to at least do the startup part. I don't know enough about it to know if it could manage the shutdown part, too.
With regards to using GPSTest before your GPS apps it may be the case that GPSTest just does a better job of managing the GPS in the phone, but I think it's largely a placebo effect. Starting GPSTest before you start your nav program starts the GPS sooner, and you have a program actively seeking a fix for the duration of time it takes to then start the nav program and let it load completely before it starts looking for a fix. If you start that nav program when the GPS is inactive (no GPSTest running) you haven't even started that process until the program is fully loaded, so the initial fix takes a lot longer.
Well I have to disagree with the placebo thing, if I just startup TomTom alone with no fix, it takes at least 15 minutes to get a fix (I always give up), but if I start GPS test, it gets a fix within 20 seconds and then TomTom is fine.
No firsthand experience with TomTom software, so it may very well be that it just does a very poor job of handling the GPS interface. I can't imagine why that would be, but I'm no expert on how the phone handles the GPS integration either.
I know with Garmin Mobile XT and Google Maps it would often take a few minutes (up to maybe 6 or 7 minutes) to get that initial fix after a cold start, and I often felt like having GPSTest running made that shorter, too, but not by a terribly significant amount. The only explanation I can think of is that perhaps, on start up, these other programs only poll the GPS occasionally to see if it has acquired a fix whereas GPSTest maintains a constant connection. In its attempts to manage power the phone could be handicapping the GPS when it doesn't have a constant "listener" by powering it down. That's really just a shot in the dark, though...
The only thing that made a worthwhile difference for me was upgrading the phone's radio ROM. GPS fix problems are a thing of the past, regardless of the program I'm using.

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