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My recent experience at near bricking ...

Well, I was creating a custom ROM with the IPL and SPL files from the T-Mobile 2.26, The Faria / Shogun UWC ROM, the molski Splash screens and the Cingular 2.25 GSM to make a "complete" ROM to see if it would resolve my GSM issues. Computer completely locked up at 4%... After waiting 30 minutes with no progress I figured that it was bricked as the phone now only has the IPL and SPL info on the screen with no GSM or OS being reported. Forced device into bootloader and attempted to reflash but got communication errors with everything. Then for grins (I wasn't grinning!!!) I ran the 1.05 installer which didn't find the phone either ... but then it just went through anyway! The happy Button Beer Splash screen appeared and I had all the 1.x's! Successfully then upgraded back up to the 2.26 and all is well.
I think that someone was smiling down at me!!!
Just wanted to share as maybe this just might help someone.
*** For those that needed the ftp location to Button's 1.05 Basic Downgrade ROM ***

YOU BASTARD, Just Kidding I am happy for you.

Well, probably just tell everyone where you get the installer that solved the problem

hanmin said:
Well, probably just tell everyone where you get the installer that solved the problem
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Original post now includes the link.

hey ive installed ur rom(shoguns) on my wizzard ... and now its all messed up
tha usb port is not working ... its neither charging nor is it connecting to active sync ....
tell me wat to do guys ... and hurry up
ipl 1.05
spl 1.05
os 2.26 10.2
dis is all wat it says in de starting ....
suggest

naeemwaqas said:
hey ive installed ur rom(shoguns) on my wizzard ... and now its all messed up
tha usb port is not working ... its neither charging nor is it connecting to active sync ....
tell me wat to do guys ... and hurry up
ipl 1.05
spl 1.05
os 2.26 10.2
dis is all wat it says in de starting ....
suggest
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Every time I've seen the IPL/SPL not change from the button 1.05 it's because someone didn't unlock the CID.
Is that fast enough?

Dr Puttingham said:
Every time I've seen the IPL/SPL not change from the button 1.05 it's because someone didn't unlock the CID.
Is that fast enough?
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na man .... da rom was fu*ked up ... i found out myself how to fix it ... i put da wizard in bootloader den flashed it wiz mokskis rom and its aok now ... but da the thing wiz active sync 4.5 beta ,,, its not connecting is it not compatiable or wat ???

LOL...hey Steven, come on over and I'll slap you a couple times. It can't be as painful as trying to read what the english professor there has to say. AND HURRY UP! :-D

markgamber said:
LOL...hey Steven, come on over and I'll slap you a couple times. It can't be as painful as trying to read what the english professor there has to say. AND HURRY UP! :-D
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Get in line! (and bring a lunch as it's a LONG line!)

LOL....yeah, I've got a pretty long line here myself. BTW, it is me or has the number of people trashing their phones started to get ridiculous? I mean, on one hand it sucks to be them for not knowing anything about what they're doing but on the other hand, it's just a matter of time before someone ruins their phone and looks into legal recourse because that seems to be all the rage these days.

Holy cr*p... he said hurry up...lol
sorry, i was just busting up, maybe it's a joke, but foreals, he said "hurry up"... who says that... especially when asking for help. Anyways, just wanted to show my appreciation for the rom, what you, faria, shogun, and all the beta testers are doing is amazing... Can't wait till the release...
ahhh man, i got to do it one more time...
"tell me wat to do guys ... and hurry up"...

markgamber said:
LOL....yeah, I've got a pretty long line here myself. BTW, it is me or has the number of people trashing their phones started to get ridiculous? I mean, on one hand it sucks to be them for not knowing anything about what they're doing but on the other hand, it's just a matter of time before someone ruins their phone and looks into legal recourse because that seems to be all the rage these days.
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I agree that there seem to be more and more people now that don't have the patience to wade through the numerous threads and posts here regarding the possible pitfalls regarding upgrading a ROM. Most often that "don't do this if you're not aware of the possible bricking, etc" message is on the very first page goes unread. Of course no one reads those.... I mean, who reads a EULA (End User License Agreement) ???
I'm actually having a great day when I don't respond to a post regarding a question I already answered on the same page... but we've all been there!
And I pity the fool that tries to sue me!
Ah, I'm just ranting as I live for the abuse....

I am glad I did...saved me a lot of potential problems... but anyway, molski's new rom really works great...
a big pat at the back of the great guys in this forum that gave us all the wonderful wizard roms... =)

Cool, I was just curious. I've worked for a couple of people who had way more money than brains and I could easily see them showing up, not wanting to be bothered with instructions, ruining their phone and immediately calling a lawyer to have the site shut down and all those behind it burned at the stake. But they could spell, so that had that going for them. Which is nice.
Personally, I liked a message somewhere on here from some clown who goes on a rant about how "windoze" sucks (and used all the rest of those trite old sayings that were kind of cute 15 years ago when someone still cared about OS/2), then talks about how he was too high to be bothered with paying attention to what he was doing, trashed his phone so someone help right f-ing now. That's class right there. Makes me wonder how some people find a door to get out of the house in the morning.

markgamber said:
Cool, I was just curious. I've worked for a couple of people who had way more money than brains and I could easily see them showing up, not wanting to be bothered with instructions, ruining their phone and immediately calling a lawyer to have the site shut down and all those behind it burned at the stake. But they could spell, so that had that going for them. Which is nice.
Personally, I liked a message somewhere on here from some clown who goes on a rant about how "windoze" sucks (and used all the rest of those trite old sayings that were kind of cute 15 years ago when someone still cared about OS/2), then talks about how he was too high to be bothered with paying attention to what he was doing, trashed his phone so someone help right f-ing now. That's class right there. Makes me wonder how some people find a door to get out of the house in the morning.
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OS/2 ... and I see that you're also a "senior member"... my we're showing our age
Actually I kinda liked CP/M but I'm so freak'n old I forget how old I really am ...
(but at least my spelling hasn't suffered...yet!!!)

Ha! Well...yeah, on one hand I still have a copy of OS/2 around here somewhere. On the other hand it wasn't too many years ago when I finally quit my position as the vocalist of a hardcore punk band, so it's all relative.
I make a pretty good living at this development thing and yet when I went to Tmo and got an MDA, there was still a little sticker shock. When I brought it home and thought about updating the radio ROM because the original was terrible, I read about updating for several days before I actually tried it myself. Read about how to recover from a bad flash, read about all the potential problems and how to avoid them. Read and read and read some more and when I thought I had it all down pat, I read it all one more time, just to be sure. And even then, I was sweating bullets when I did the actual update. This wasn't my first PDA phone and I had flashing experience from previous phones, the latest being a blue angel. Now that Tmo has released their 2.26 rom which works very well (for me, anyway), I absolutely refuse to flash anything else anymore because why risk it? To look cool? I don't think so.
Given that, it just boggles my mind how someone could drop that kind of money on a phone, bring it home, slap it onto a usb port and with no experience and not bothering to really read anything, attempt to flash anything and expect (expect!) to be successful. There was that goof I mentioned above and, even better, was that guy who decided the rom image in the ftp folder named "TEST_ROM_DO_NOT_FLASH" (or something like that, I forget offhand) was a good choice who then got downright indignant when people made fun of him for being such an idiot. I just don't get it. I have a 15 year old who thinks more clearly than that....and he can flash his phone. And has. Many times. And that's why I lost patience after a while.

I have no patience (maybe that's why I'm not a real doctor)

Hard-SPL - Or How to (SIM)Unlock & Protect Your Device

[size=+2]Cheetah Hard-SPL and SIM Unlocker is now released![/size]
Ignore any images for Hermes please... this all works for your device; if you ask once whether it's going to work properly, I will find you and kill you...r dog.
YOU MUST HAVE .net framework 2.0 INSTALLED
to download, [size=+1]Click Here[/size]
If you are already SIM unlocked, then just run step 1, the other two are essentially optional for you.
[size=+1]Please report success or failure on this thread[/size]
SPL version displays 1.40.OliNex.
Current Features:
Code:
[b]CURRENT FEATURES[/b]
-SuperCID (no CID checks anyway)
-no Code Signing
-SPL protected
-IPL protected
-Password for commands not required
-Accepts any Password
-Run 'task 2a' via mtty to fix bad blocks
-Rtask also in SPL
-ModelID ignored
[b]Changelog[/b]
[b]Hard-SPL-1.40[/b]
-Initial Release

Hi Oli - thanks for pointing your skills at us Cheetah owners. Pof and I exchanged quite a bit of dialogue on this not too long ago, but he's been super busy focusing on Hermes work.
I'll volunteer - would you have some time on Friday evening? You're in the U.K. yes? If you shoot me a PM we can find a time that works well for both of us. Alternatively I can give whatever code and process you have a go and send you the results.
I've already got a cooked ROM set aside for testing once the whole signing thing is knocked out. =)
--Summiter
Olipro said:
OK, here's what I have, and what I need
last night, I was given the WM6 leaked NBH; good news for you chaps is that it contains an SPL.
second bit of good news is that I've patched it with no problems.
the bad news is that obviously I don't own a Cheetah, so I need someone who does to setup VNC on their computer so I can VNC in and try and get the SPL to run on their device.
the chances of bricking your device in the process of getting the SPL to soft-load is pretty much 0%.
so... any takers? please?
P.S: on further investigation, I'd also like to point out that if we can get Hard-SPL working on it, sim-unlocking (if necessary for some devices?) should then be achieveable
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I can't wait!
I'd really like a cooked rom for my 750.

Cooked Rom
I can smell it already.

yeah, but nobody's offered to help... still

How do I help?

Damn, thats good news. Can't wait to see the first customized rom.
But wat is the status so far, is there someone already working on it ?. If nessecary i'll share my connection to make this a success.

Sorry Oli - was offline until today due to squirrels. You know, the little brown critters that eat nuts and nibble on coax... That was my ISPs excuse anyway.
I sent you a PM with my MSN ID. I'm set up with terminal access into the bootloader and whatnot, and have a cooked ROM which I *think* I've built with the proper parts in all the correct places.
--Kevin
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yeah, but nobody's offered to help... still
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OK Guys; major breakthrough... even though the person who kindly was helping went offline.
if anyone would like to get in touch, having a Hard-SPL up and running on these devices is going to be no sweat.
I'd also like to mention that from there, it'll be plain sailing to SIM Unlocking too.
Cheers guys!
Olipro & Cmonex

Thanks
Thanks Olipro,
That pretty much wraps up the only downside about moving from the Vario II to the 750!
Now if only someone can figure out a way to program on on/off button that doesn't keep going back to the Today screen......

Yeah... but... need a tester.
it's harmless, I swear.

Olipro said:
Yeah... but... need a tester.
it's harmless, I swear.
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I'd happily be your guinea pig. My 750v is already unlocked though.

Ill do it, tell me what needs to be done.

Olipro said:
Yeah... but... need a tester.
it's harmless, I swear.
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What do you need done?

ok, SSPL works fine.
SIM unlocking next, watch this space

Olipro said:
ok, SSPL works fine.
SIM unlocking next, watch this space
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Wow, cool, cooked ROMs here we come...

alright, Hard-SPL also loads nicely.
just getting SIM unlocking sorted now.

Olipro said:
just getting SIM unlocking sorted now.
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Good work *****

Ill still help if needed...

me too.
whose gonna cook us some roms?

Proper video drivers and unlocker Project

cmonex and olipro have offered up to get the proper video drivers and a sim unlocker done for the kaiser. they though have asked u guys the community to get them a kaiser they could use to do the development of the drivers and unlocker. cmonex has previous experience in doing driver hacking so she would find a way to hack the current video drivers to be used more efficiently and to use the full power of the kaiser. olipro u guys all know from the hermes forums for his unlocked and hardspl but this time around the new securities require he have a device to be able to unlock it. if they wont succedd in any of these 2 then they will give back the kaiser.

Pawel062 said:
cmonex and olipro have offered up to get the proper video drivers and a sim unlocker done for the kaiser. they though have asked u guys the community to get them a kaiser they could use to do the development of the drivers and unlocker. cmonex has previous experience in doing driver hacking so she would find a way to hack the current video drivers to be used more efficiently and to use the full power of the kaiser. olipro u guys all know from the hermes forums for his unlocked and hardspl but this time around the new securities require he have a device to be able to unlock it. if they wont succedd in any of these 2 then they will give back the kaiser.
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Cool idea - will you repost your q to the "official" (sticky) bounty thread, or, should I (at least temporarily) stick this thread? We could also include this post in the firts post in the Bounty thread.

Menneisyys said:
Cool idea - will you repost your q to the "official" (sticky) bounty thread, or, should I (at least temporarily) stick this thread? We could also include this post in the firts post in the Bounty thread.
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i would repost it but idk if it isnt off topic bc that was for how much people are willing to chip into the bounty. u can add to first post of bounty thread though. cmonex who would be lead developer of the video driver said it should be just a mod to existing video drivers after looking at what core people are saying. she says shes willing to do it just needs a kaiser and the bounty would be nice after shes done bc it will take some time and she is a student too.

SIM unlocker? Who needs that? I just called AT&T and they gave me my unlock code withing 5 minutes.

Shadow7789 said:
SIM unlocker? Who needs that? I just called AT&T and they gave me my unlock code withing 5 minutes.
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I would guesstimate that Tilt users account for less than half of the users in this forum. There are more world-wide users here using the MDA Vario III and the TyTN II and I am quite sure they would love to have an unlocked phone.

Actually I would say tilt users are the majority

Who cares about the sim locker. You guys don't have to argue about that so much, the more important thing here is the drivers.

i'm a firm believer that collaboration > competition.
maybe cmonex could get in touch with Chainfire ?

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i'm a firm believer that collaboration > competition.
maybe cmonex could get in touch with Chainfire ?
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she doesnt want to compete and is open to collaboration but needs a device to be able to do anything. she has extensive dll modding skills so it shouldn't be too hard of a job for her.

Pawel062 said:
u can add to first post of bounty thread though.
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I temporarily make this thread sticky so thqat it gets enough attention; when there is any change, I unstick it.

draxredd said:
i'm a firm believer that collaboration > competition.
maybe cmonex could get in touch with Chainfire ?
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Well actually I already was working with cmonex before my vacation started ...

Loaner?...Anyone?
but needs a device to be able to do anything.
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Perhaps a user with more than one device (I have seen many of them post, I would volunteer if I had more than 1) would be willing to loan the extraneous unit out?
Just a thought...

Probably be quicker to just buy a TILT locally and return it within the 30 day grace period.

Jim_R said:
Probably be quicker to just buy a TILT locally and return it within the 30 day grace period.
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the problem is cmonex and olipro are in the UK.

Hey, many of us pledged towards the driver project, I say let's show some faith and donate to Oli enough to get a Test unit.
I'm in for $25

HTML:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?>
<assembly xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v1" manifestVersion="1.0">
<assemblyIdentity version="1.0.0.0" processorArchitecture="X86" name="SIM Unlock" type="win32"/>
<description>Unlock</description>
<ms_asmv2:trustInfo xmlns:ms_asmv2="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v2">
<ms_asmv2:security xmlns:ms_asmv2="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:asm.v2">
<requestedPrivileges>
<requestedExecutionLevel level="requireAdministrator" uiAccess="false"/>
</requestedPrivileges>
</ms_asmv2:security>
</ms_asmv2:trustInfo>
</assembly>
i was playing with imei-check.co.uk's kaiserv1unlock.exe program. the code above is what goes into the kaiser/tilt puls some info and pastes a file with an extention .ued.
past this point i am lost on 2 counts.
one: i am not a programer that understands the code above
two: i don't know or have a program that reads file extentions ending in .ued
hopefully this might help out or not.
if not sorry i am trying but again i am not a programmer.

Chainfire said:
Well actually I already was working with cmonex before my vacation started ...
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no one noticed chainfire's post?

All that that code does is copy your imei and save it in a file with a ued extension. It's a bunch of fluff.

OK... leap of faith (fingers crossed)...
I will put give $20USD for this...
If nothing else, we will have two of the best with a Kaiser... that has to be a good thing. If this gets off the ground, just tell me where to donate.

count me in for USD 10.
kms

Which Cingular ATT Wizard 8125 Rom / Radio combo is most stable?

I've been having major issues with my phone since I installed a TNT Series Rom.
My rom version is 11.0.0.1 WWE
Radio Version 2.25.11 (i just put this on to try to fix the issues)
I wouldnt mind going back to WM5 because WM6 seems to be soooooo slow, i'm aiming for stability because my phone's pretty near useless since it never rings when I get calls and It doesn't even notify me of voicemails.
I can't seem to find any current links for any firmwares to downgrade to either =/
Thanks in advance

You need Radio version 02.19.11. Anything else and you will get lost calls.

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You need Radio version 02.19.11. Anything else and you will get lost calls.
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hm, damn, didn't know that, is there somewhere on the site that i can download that?

Have you noticed an option called "search" ?? On the top of this screen ??

yes... i have, thanks for that, i was wondering if anyone had a download link already in a thread they knew of, but thanks.....

Search on this forum is worthless. Try searching for "AT&T" with or without quotes in whole forum, get zero results.
I found this topic by Googling and I keep hitting deadends with jerks like you telling people to SEARCH instead of actually providing useful information. This topic is on the first page for what I'm looking for. I want the same thing - a stable, usable ROM for an HTC Wizard on Cingular (now AT&T). I've had nothing but headaches trying to upgrade this Wizard for a friend. It's been a nightmare with a flood of poorly designed and unsupported abandonware ROMS with bugs enough to make it darn near unusable, and biased tutorials that end me up with a T-Mobile Pocket PC instead of a Cingular PPC, with no information about how to make it appear to be a Cingular PPC again.
I've given up on WM6 on this Wizard and now I'm just looking for a working Windows Mobile 5 ROM again. Chances are, I'll have that figured out by tonight, but I'll still have this topic on watch so I can be notified when someone with half a functioning brain decides to reply. Damn this is frustrating.
(oh, and hi, first poast, olol)

FalconFour said:
Search on this forum is worthless. Try searching for "AT&T" with or without quotes in whole forum, get zero results.
I found this topic by Googling and I keep hitting deadends with jerks like you telling people to SEARCH instead of actually providing useful information. This topic is on the first page for what I'm looking for. I want the same thing - a stable, usable ROM for an HTC Wizard on Cingular (now AT&T). I've had nothing but headaches trying to upgrade this Wizard for a friend. It's been a nightmare with a flood of poorly designed and unsupported abandonware ROMS with bugs enough to make it darn near unusable, and biased tutorials that end me up with a T-Mobile Pocket PC instead of a Cingular PPC, with no information about how to make it appear to be a Cingular PPC again.
I've given up on WM6 on this Wizard and now I'm just looking for a working Windows Mobile 5 ROM again. Chances are, I'll have that figured out by tonight, but I'll still have this topic on watch so I can be notified when someone with half a functioning brain decides to reply. Damn this is frustrating.
(oh, and hi, first poast, olol)
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unfortunately i have found THIS EXACT same results, except they were responses to other people's questions and i haven't flashed.. yet. i was preparing to, in about one cigarette's amount of time, until i found your post just now. very disappointing. i'm affraid of going to wm6 or 6.1 now.. for fear of the dropped calls some other guy in this post was complaining of, and the slowness you speak of. very unfortunate. i've spent 7 hours struggling with poor search capabilities to attempt to determine the best rom and any issues i might have. i was about to pull the trigger and you RUINED IT FOR ME. hahaha. so let me know how your event goes tryin to get back to wm5, in case i need to do the same

http://download.america.htc.com/RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe
Here's a link to the original Cingular WM5 ROM. I asked a similar question a few days ago, and was graciously provided the link.
WRT fixing your problem, did you try downgrading to the Button ROM, and then reupgrading to WM5? Might make things easier for you.
Chuck

chuckknight said:
http://download.america.htc.com/RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe
Here's a link to the original Cingular WM5 ROM. I asked a similar question a few days ago, and was graciously provided the link.
WRT fixing your problem, did you try downgrading to the Button ROM, and then reupgrading to WM5? Might make things easier for you.
Chuck
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Link broken, here is a link I found googling
http://w16.easy-share.com/1700053307.html
I'm actually about to try it right now, I'm also stuck
in bootloader mode

FalconFour said:
Search on this forum is worthless. Try searching for "AT&T" with or without quotes in whole forum, get zero results.
I found this topic by Googling and I keep hitting deadends with jerks like you telling people to SEARCH instead of actually providing useful information. This topic is on the first page for what I'm looking for. I want the same thing - a stable, usable ROM for an HTC Wizard on Cingular (now AT&T). I've had nothing but headaches trying to upgrade this Wizard for a friend. It's been a nightmare with a flood of poorly designed and unsupported abandonware ROMS with bugs enough to make it darn near unusable, and biased tutorials that end me up with a T-Mobile Pocket PC instead of a Cingular PPC, with no information about how to make it appear to be a Cingular PPC again.
I've given up on WM6 on this Wizard and now I'm just looking for a working Windows Mobile 5 ROM again. Chances are, I'll have that figured out by tonight, but I'll still have this topic on watch so I can be notified when someone with half a functioning brain decides to reply. Damn this is frustrating.
(oh, and hi, first poast, olol)
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I know this is quite an old post....but I thought I'd respond to his frustration, because I myself was in your same position around the time you posted this. I have a Cingular 8125 and when I bought it, it had the official T-Mobile ROM Windows Mobile 5. My first PDA. I came to xda by chance and read all the cool stuff. I became aware of what is called "Flashing." I must have read the tuturial a dozen times, and "flashed" it nearly 2 dozen times lol (or what I thought was flashing hahahaha) The only thing I noticed was a splash screen change. lmao. But after trial and error I finally flashed it! yea! hahaha. I then learned about the other stuff like ISPL or whatever hahaha and radio stuff. So to make my point... I never asked for any help! I just searched, and read, searched, and read, trial & error, trial & error. So instead of demanding answers, go ahead and read through the forums, I know you don't always get what you search for, but read some more! I can guarantee your question has been answered, and you might learn a few new things!
Good Luck!

Help with SPL and warranty return.

Hey guys,
I am going to take my device to an ATT device support center on monday, which means I am having to reflash to the original software. Unfortunately I lost the file on my hard drive containing all of the original software versions. If someone could advise me as to what to flash I would really appreciate it.
I got the phone at the beginning of September 2008. If there are any numbers on the back of the phone that could tell me when it was manufactured, let me know. That might give me an idea which ROM or SPL to reflash.
Thanks!

FireWalker877 said:
Hey guys,
I am going to take my device to an ATT device support center on monday, which means I am having to reflash to the original software. Unfortunately I lost the file on my hard drive containing all of the original software versions. If someone could advise me as to what to flash I would really appreciate it.
I got the phone at the beginning of September 2008. If there are any numbers on the back of the phone that could tell me when it was manufactured, let me know. That might give me an idea which ROM or SPL to reflash.
Thanks!
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No need for yet another new thread on this well discussed subject, a simple search would have led you here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568

denco7 said:
No need for yet another new thread on this well discussed subject, a simple search would have led you here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
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Thanks, guy. Been there, read that. A simple "I don't know. But I would like to be an anus to you for no good reason" would have at least been more honest. I'm not trying to start a flame war here, but this is a specific question. There are 50 pages there, and I have been through a great many of them. Your post has wasted both your time and mine. Next time, be helpful.
For anyone else who woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, I have searched "Recover spl," "Remember SPL," and "Forgot SPL."
If it helps to rephrase my question, here it is:
I cannot recall which software versions were present on my phone originally. Did anyone receive their phone around the same time who could tell me what their original software was? And can I use the serial number to determine the date of manufacture? Thank you!

FireWalker877 said:
I cannot recall which software versions were present on my phone originally. Did anyone receive their phone around the same time who could tell me what their original software was? And can I use the serial number to determine the date of manufacture? Thank you!
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Before you try and give me any attitude, I do not know the answers to those qustions but, more importantly, since it's possible to freely upgrade to the latest AT&T WM 6.1 ROM avail here on top of the wiki page http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs , why does it matter? You can just throw the latest version on, revert the SPL and be done with it.
For future reference it's always helpful if you can state relevant thread steps/wikis etc that you've already tried/reviewed or it's no wonder you'll get a 'read the wiki' type response. I was all set to post a similar reply so no I don't think denco7 got out of bed on the wrong side.

Flying Kiwi said:
Before you try and give me any attitude, I do not know the answers to those qustions but, more importantly, since it's possible to freely upgrade to the latest AT&T WM 6.1 ROM avail here on top of the wiki page http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs , why does it matter? You can just throw the latest version on, revert the SPL and be done with it.
For future reference it's always helpful if you can state relevant thread steps/wikis etc that you've already tried/reviewed or it's no wonder you'll get a 'read the wiki' type response. I was all set to post a similar reply so no I don't think denco7 got out of bed on the wrong side.
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Thank you for the response. I probably should have said that I had already looked around. I have spent a good deal of time on forums across the web, and denco's response is all too common. Perhaps he did misunderstand my question, but referring me to the search function in such a fashion is insulting and unhelpful. I could read the first page of the ROM Dev section and find that link. I apologize for lashing out. I still would like to know if there is any way to find the manufacture date and correlate it to a SPL version.

FireWalker877 said:
I still would like to know if there is any way to find the manufacture date and correlate it to a SPL version.
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You do realise that the SPL will change when the device is officially updated to WM 6.1 don't you - ie there's no need to know. I say this because I doubt anyone other than AT&T or HTC would keep a register of such details, let alone serial numbers. FWIW my HTC branded TyTN II has a date on the antenna sticker above the battery and to the left of the camera lens, maybe the Tilt is the same. I do vaguely recall some facility on HTCs website (don't ask me where but it was warranty claim/RMA/Support related) that gives you warranty expiry details when you plug in the device serial number - from that you can also get a date.
Now, does that satisfy your need and if not, why not ie what are you concerned about? Despite what you may think, we are voluteers who genuinely want to help if people are reasonable and civil and if there's an easy way to accomplish a task but someone wants to do it a harder way, I think people will be curious to know why.

FireWalker877 said:
Hey guys,
I am going to take my device to an ATT device support center on monday, which means I am having to reflash to the original software. Unfortunately I lost the file on my hard drive containing all of the original software versions. If someone could advise me as to what to flash I would really appreciate it.
I got the phone at the beginning of September 2008. If there are any numbers on the back of the phone that could tell me when it was manufactured, let me know. That might give me an idea which ROM or SPL to reflash.
Thanks!
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When returning your phone to the ATT Device support center.. Just flash the origional shipped roms located on the wiki link already given to you. When you flash the shipped rom it will overwrite with the shipped spl.
FireWalker877 said:
Thanks, guy. Been there, read that. A simple "I don't know. But I would like to be an anus to you for no good reason" would have at least been more honest. I'm not trying to start a flame war here, but this is a specific question. There are 50 pages there, and I have been through a great many of them. Your post has wasted both your time and mine. Next time, be helpful.
For anyone else who woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, I have searched "Recover spl," "Remember SPL," and "Forgot SPL."
If it helps to rephrase my question, here it is:
I cannot recall which software versions were present on my phone originally. Did anyone receive their phone around the same time who could tell me what their original software was? And can I use the serial number to determine the date of manufacture? Thank you!
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Settle down..
People are helping you, We wouldn't know the condition of the phone when it was handed to you. So either:
A: flash a shipped att rom which can be EASILY found on the WIKI.
B: Head over to the HTC Site and go into support and give them your serial number and see what they can do as far as pointing you to the shipped rom.
Try to be more respectful to your fellow XDA Members.
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Peace,
Joshua