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Hard-SPL, Or Flashing any ROM, and staying Brick-safe

Well... I did it for Hermes, tomorrow I'm doing it for Trinity, this is just here to make sure I get round to it... and to let you folks know it's in the pipeline

I was going to ask you if you had any plans for us. Thanks for the hard work

Olipro: this will take you to the hall of fame together with Des, Pof, Lvsw, Dutty and some others.
Looking forward for your news. Thanks.

According to hermes thread this is simple rip of SSPL bootloader (my appologies to Olipro if it is not). Shuch tool exist for a long time but there are some reasons why it is not released to public. However now I'm forced to do so, use at your own risk. Development of better tool was in progress but now I'm not shure if I wish to continue with it.

Hi, what's the difference between this SPL and the SSPL-TRIN.exe available in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632 ?

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According to hermes thread this is simple rip of SSPL bootloader (my appologies to Olipro if it is not). Shuch tool exist for a long time but there are some reasons why it is not released to public. However now I'm forced to do so, use at your own risk. Development of better tool was in progress but now I'm not shure if I wish to continue with it.
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Thanks for your contributions . I hope that you are not getting put off by the whole "pay for services" thing that seems to be going on. You are the one that came up with the SSPL utility and we are very grateful. You were the first to make a Trinity ROM change possible without a CID unlock. Keep up the great work it is appreciated.
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Hi, what's the difference between this SPL and the SSPL-TRIN.exe
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This one is bootloader image for flashing in to device, SSPL is the same image wrapped with stuff needed to start it from WinCE.
This is for those users who want SSPL functionality in flashed-in bootloader. Most average users (don't playing dangerous games with flashing probable crap to radio) won't need this.

Des said:
According to hermes thread this is simple rip of SSPL bootloader (my appologies to Olipro if it is not).
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Technically it is half a rip off: Olipro "backported" your bypass-signature patch to hermes SPL-1.04, but he had to reimplement the "show itself as SuperCID" patch because this on 1.09 just requires a NOP, but the default on 1.04 is to assume CID (remember the CID checking bug in that bootloader?), so implementation is different. The good thing of having it on 1.04 is that it allows to access the radio bootloader and 1.09 doesn't.
Des said:
Shuch tool exist for a long time but there are some reasons why it is not released to public. However now I'm forced to do so, use at your own risk.
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I think Olipro released the SPL in the aim of helping, and also because he learned from you and had fun extracting it... this doesn't force you to release the Trin SPL, but I see it as a good thing... can you be more specific on these reasons why this has not to be released?
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Development of better tool was in progress but now I'm not shure if I wish to continue with it.
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err... I hope you continue with it, don't want to discourage you on that... you made it possible the best it could ever happen to Hermes & Trinity, and you have all the support and respect of xda-dev community for that. Hope you continue with the development whenever you have time to do it, as you are a very valuable piece of the puzzle here

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Thanks for your contributions . I hope that you are not getting put off by the whole "pay for services" thing that seems to be going on. You are the one that came up with the SSPL utility and we are very grateful. You were the first to make a Trinity ROM change possible without a CID unlock. Keep up the great work it is appreciated.
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Matterhorn is absolutely right. Great work! We all are very thankful. Keep it up!

well, I'd just ripped the Trinity ROM to upload it...
but it's identical to Des's (except the version number) so no worries...
on another note; I think you'll find that I haven't actually released your SPL Des, I still have that on my computer; currently I've only sent it to pof and some guy who intends to play around with it... it's a shame someone has to be so petty as to decide to up and stop development of something just because someone ported their work to an earlier ROM, but if that's the way it's going to be then I guess it means that development will be slower as others are left to pick up the gauntlet

I dont understand Des behavior... what's the deal of Olipro rip/port/transform Des's code to an earlier version ?!
Isn't this supposed to happen in an open minded/source community ?!
I thought you were all here because you share the same interests... This new "wave of paid services" is really messing up things among you all and specially the free open source filosophy.
We're very thankful for all your hard work so all you can expect from us is a deep respect. I really hope that you can cut the crap of your divergences to continue providing your amazing solutions.

Des's not hyping up his contribution to the community and is trying to be cautious with releasing something potentially harmful. Nobody wants more bricks here...
Rip-off or not, if it's likely to cause problems (and Des probably knows better than others), it's not safe to make it public.
There's a lot of buzz lately in Trinity WM6 thread and now with patched SPL here. A lot is yet to be done, probably more than already done, why the buzz?

this on 1.09 just requires a NOP, but the default on 1.04 is to assume CID
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I know this issue. Similar one exist on breeze bl.
can you be more specific on these reasons why this has not to be released?
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From technical side mostly because of that flashing without any integrity check is dangerous. It works for sspl but just because sspl is used by most users to flash shipped or somebodys cooked (and tested) updates. Potential users of standalone bl (wich claims to be crashproof but if signatures are fu*ked up or absent it is NOT) are seems to be more hackers than consumers wich means that they would flash not just shipped updates. I know about dozen of devices bricked (full of bads) due to incorrect signature size or absence of it. Do you whant more ?
this doesn't force you to release the Trin SPL
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"tomorrow I'm doing it for Trinity" (c) Olipro.
So while it would be released I prefer to release it myself.
Hope you continue with the development
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it's a shame someone has to be so petty as to decide to up and stop development of something just because someone ported their work
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Looks like my position need be explained bit clearer.
At first - here I do not hack or code for resulting effect or profit (I have a job for such things). I do this just for my own fun. And yes, for comunity benefit as well (because making community happy is a fun too).
And it is more fun for me to make things more featureful rather then make them fast (While community may benefit more from fast one. In short term.).
Surely you have noticed long pause between my promise to bring SSPL to all platforms where such tool is needed and present days. And that SSPL was not introduced even for platforms I have access to (and where it is actualy working as a proof of concept). And why standalone bootloaders for trinity and hermes was not released while it would not take any time for me at all. What happened ?
Does I have no time to code during last month ? Or have I been bribed by HTC not to do so ? Or maybe I'm going to post "give me 1000$ and you would get SSPL for your device" ?
No.
After some feedback 'bout several bricks and thoughts about new wave of upcoming HTC devices I came to certain decisions about what future version of SSPL would look like. It was designed that there would be no device speciefic versions of SSPL and SSPL itself would not contain any (HTC copyrighted) binary blobs. Instead it would be universal (PXA/OMAP/S3C) loader and universal patcher (which (with some good luck) may be able to produce patced bl for new device in couple of clicks) and set of romimage manipulating tools (to [re]sign and check for software bads) too. I do not mention bootloader patches improvement for more safe flashing and may be software bads recovering. As you can see this is quite complex job wich can not be done in couple of hours. And more - hacking is almost always fun for me, coding - just when I'm not too tired with my main job
Many (if not most) parts of this is done: loader successfully works on all three platforms, fuzzy ARM patcher algo is near to completion, image manipulating tools are not a problem at all (but even so they need to be coded and this needs time).
But as for now I lost fun in providing universal solution - most users won't notice any difference and developers... now there is a porter among us so there is no need to worry about new device support any more
(non-universal) SSPL for breeze and wizard as well as standalone bootloaders (with slightly renewed patches) would be released in days, for other devices as soon as I'll get access to them for testing purposes. As this is much more sooner than planned release of universal loader+patcher then community benefit (for now).
I dont understand Des behavior... what's the deal of Olipro rip/port/transform Des's code to an earlier version ?!
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Let me explain: I have some relations with darker side of the force than hacking htc pda is. Among siths taking somebodys ***ck or ****en and "porting" it to newer(older) version of program called ripping. Siths do respect copyrights in their odd way and pay no respect to rippers. Nothing more

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Do you whant more ?
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I do see your point here, obviously it is a double edge knife because it allows to easily brick the device if the flashed file is not well formated, but on the other side it also prevents the device to completely brick because of a bad radio flash which seems to be the most common brick for hermes devices, and it is starting to happen on trinity too. That's why first thing I asked was if it is possible to implement something to prevent bad blocks in NAND.
Des said:
Many (if not most) parts of this is done: loader successfully works on all three platforms, fuzzy ARM patcher algo is near to completion, image manipulating tools are not a problem at all (but even so they need to be coded and this needs time).
But as for now I lost fun in providing universal solution
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That's amazing, I hope you reconsider your decision as I (and sure a lot of other individuals too) would really like to see something like this happen.
We are curious by nature, I must admit second thing I did after you released SSPL was loading it on IDA (first was trying it on my hermes) and try to see exactly what you did. I just did it out of curiosity and trying to learn something from your impressive work. I was a bit disappointed because you didn't release the patches so I "had to" reverse what you did in order to understand it, but this was also challenging and fun for me. I for sure learned something on the process and finally I left it because there where some sections I couldn't re-base correctly on IDA.
I think Olipro just had the same feeling as I had, and he didn't release the Hard-SPL in the aim of ripping your work, but in the aim of helping the community reduce the number of bricks because of a bad radio flash, and he also gave you credit for your work, so I see this as a team work and not as ripping. I hope you can see my point too and forgive Olipro's audacity, and of course continue the development of such universal bootloader tool... in the end we're all here because we love to squeeze the devices and we all do this for fun and learning, don't you think?

second thing I did after you released SSPL was loading it on IDA
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I is perfectly normal. Moreover if I were you that would be the first thing I'l done (to look what piece of s**t I'm going to run on my hermes)
I was a bit disappointed because you didn't release the patches
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Why don't you asked me then ? I rarely refuse to explain how things works. But of course I'll ask you for some sort of NDA for a while
and finally I left it because there where some sections I couldn't re-base correctly on IDA
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Rather strange. SSPL is ordinary executable produced by VS 2005. No disasm/debug protection. Loaders code is packed mainly to save 100kB of space and to hide code from too curious but unexpirenced eyes for their own sake as a second task.
so I see this as a team work and not as ripping
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Look... I'm not a DMCA, software patents, etc fan at all. But things should be called by their real names. Derivative work is something that utilises somebodys code but brings many very own features to it. I hardly could avowe hermes 1.04 bl as derivative work because it contain at least single additional bit of patch. But bit-to bit exact copy (except the version number) announced as
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Hard-SPL, Or Flashing any ROM, and staying Brick-safeWell... I did it for Hermes, tomorrow I'm doing it for Trinity, this is just here to make sure I get round to it... and to let you folks know it's in the pipeline
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is no more then a rip.

Well now everyone knows that Olipro isn't the master mind behind the solution (because you're).
So, now we all know that the copyright is yours and we're thankful for that. And you've the respect of alot of other users as well .

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Why don't you asked me then ? I rarely refuse to explain how things works. But of course I'll ask you for some sort of NDA for a while
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Because I prefered to have some basic understanding of it before asking, and wanted to find out by myself... I tend to learn more by looking than by just asking and of corse i feared the NDA
Des said:
Rather strange. SSPL is ordinary executable produced by VS 2005. No disasm/debug protection. Loaders code is packed mainly to save 100kB of space and to hide code from too curious but unexpirenced eyes for their own sake as a second task.
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Yes, that was not the problem... if I recall correctly I managed to extract IPL and SPL with PE explorer, but then I wanted to compare the extracted SPL with an unmodified SPL, I set the base address to 0x8c080000 and found something around 0x8c040000 which I did not know how to interpret correctly... probably I was one of those curious but unexperienced eyes

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and wanted to find out by myself...
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then you should be glad to find it bit scrambled - there is no fun in reversing easy things
and of corse i feared the NDA
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Dealing with sensitivity material require some level of conspiracy I wonder how long security bypass patch would work now (not closed in future roms). Of course there are many other ways to bypass [almost any] sec check but that was realy funny like a good joke

Des said:
no more then a rip.
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Sorry, that's out of context; I'm not inferring anything more than that I extracted your patch, which might I add consists of a single NOP and two address deletions (although of course, identifying them is the kicker).
A while back... I asked you about it and was stonewalled by you; you offered me nothing, just some info that you were working on something or other further to it... I can only guess you assumed I'd be unable to extract the clean bootloader image and thus discounted me.
resultantly, I recently got tired of waiting and dumped the SPL. I suggest you head over to the Hermes forum where you will find that I haven't secretly ripped off your work and then called it my own.
I ripped the SPL out for myself, spoke to pof about it, and then decided that it'd be a good idea to port it back to the old SPL and release that, which I did.
I never got a chance to release this one, but all I was going to do to it was remove the button press patch... I did not plan to take any credit for this Trinity ROM whatsoever.
anyway enough of the *****ing and ranting. I hope we can move on; I appreciate you're clearly pissed that it got released as a regular NB Image but I only hope you'll get over it.
Also... I've made a modification to the SPL to ignore bad NAND blocks... not a clue if it works, need someone who's bollocked up their NAND to test it... obviously you need a way to get it on your phone first.

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Sorry, that's out of context
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I've intentionaly quoted whole topic-starting post to not to be out of context.
which might I add consists of a single NOP and two address deletions
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the smaller is patch - the better it is. And those are not addresses btw.
of course, identifying them
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You've got the point.
ps: Same things can be done in different ways. And I can't say that I respect ways you choose to help the comunity (this relates not only to ripping sspl). I do believe that you have good intentions in your mind but hell is paved with them. This is only my own opinion wich is not subject to discussion.
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anyway enough of the *****ing and ranting
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surely.

Hard-SPL - Or How to (SIM)Unlock & Protect Your Device

[size=+2]Cheetah Hard-SPL and SIM Unlocker is now released![/size]
Ignore any images for Hermes please... this all works for your device; if you ask once whether it's going to work properly, I will find you and kill you...r dog.
YOU MUST HAVE .net framework 2.0 INSTALLED
to download, [size=+1]Click Here[/size]
If you are already SIM unlocked, then just run step 1, the other two are essentially optional for you.
[size=+1]Please report success or failure on this thread[/size]
SPL version displays 1.40.OliNex.
Current Features:
Code:
[b]CURRENT FEATURES[/b]
-SuperCID (no CID checks anyway)
-no Code Signing
-SPL protected
-IPL protected
-Password for commands not required
-Accepts any Password
-Run 'task 2a' via mtty to fix bad blocks
-Rtask also in SPL
-ModelID ignored
[b]Changelog[/b]
[b]Hard-SPL-1.40[/b]
-Initial Release

Hi Oli - thanks for pointing your skills at us Cheetah owners. Pof and I exchanged quite a bit of dialogue on this not too long ago, but he's been super busy focusing on Hermes work.
I'll volunteer - would you have some time on Friday evening? You're in the U.K. yes? If you shoot me a PM we can find a time that works well for both of us. Alternatively I can give whatever code and process you have a go and send you the results.
I've already got a cooked ROM set aside for testing once the whole signing thing is knocked out. =)
--Summiter
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OK, here's what I have, and what I need
last night, I was given the WM6 leaked NBH; good news for you chaps is that it contains an SPL.
second bit of good news is that I've patched it with no problems.
the bad news is that obviously I don't own a Cheetah, so I need someone who does to setup VNC on their computer so I can VNC in and try and get the SPL to run on their device.
the chances of bricking your device in the process of getting the SPL to soft-load is pretty much 0%.
so... any takers? please?
P.S: on further investigation, I'd also like to point out that if we can get Hard-SPL working on it, sim-unlocking (if necessary for some devices?) should then be achieveable
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I can't wait!
I'd really like a cooked rom for my 750.

Cooked Rom
I can smell it already.

yeah, but nobody's offered to help... still

How do I help?

Damn, thats good news. Can't wait to see the first customized rom.
But wat is the status so far, is there someone already working on it ?. If nessecary i'll share my connection to make this a success.

Sorry Oli - was offline until today due to squirrels. You know, the little brown critters that eat nuts and nibble on coax... That was my ISPs excuse anyway.
I sent you a PM with my MSN ID. I'm set up with terminal access into the bootloader and whatnot, and have a cooked ROM which I *think* I've built with the proper parts in all the correct places.
--Kevin
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yeah, but nobody's offered to help... still
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OK Guys; major breakthrough... even though the person who kindly was helping went offline.
if anyone would like to get in touch, having a Hard-SPL up and running on these devices is going to be no sweat.
I'd also like to mention that from there, it'll be plain sailing to SIM Unlocking too.
Cheers guys!
Olipro & Cmonex

Thanks
Thanks Olipro,
That pretty much wraps up the only downside about moving from the Vario II to the 750!
Now if only someone can figure out a way to program on on/off button that doesn't keep going back to the Today screen......

Yeah... but... need a tester.
it's harmless, I swear.

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Yeah... but... need a tester.
it's harmless, I swear.
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I'd happily be your guinea pig. My 750v is already unlocked though.

Ill do it, tell me what needs to be done.

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Yeah... but... need a tester.
it's harmless, I swear.
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What do you need done?

ok, SSPL works fine.
SIM unlocking next, watch this space

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ok, SSPL works fine.
SIM unlocking next, watch this space
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Wow, cool, cooked ROMs here we come...

alright, Hard-SPL also loads nicely.
just getting SIM unlocking sorted now.

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just getting SIM unlocking sorted now.
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Good work *****

Ill still help if needed...

me too.
whose gonna cook us some roms?

Simlock. you have tried 8 times , Please wait until timeout

I have a Treo 750, which has incorrect code entered 8 times. how long is the timeout wait ?.
any other methods of resetting the phone or unlocking it ?
( I have the correct code from Cingular. someone else entered the incorrect code )

sod that, use the unlocker...

DONT use unlocker...u will have hard time updating to wm6!!

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DONT use unlocker...u will have hard time updating to wm6!!
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shut up you ****ing idiot, are you some sort of self-professed ****ing expert now?

summiter even says you can't upgrade to WM6 the right way with using an HTC rasio in ur treo

how does one enter the code into the treo 750
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I have a Treo 750, which has incorrect code entered 8 times. how long is the timeout wait ?.
any other methods of resetting the phone or unlocking it ?
( I have the correct code from Cingular. someone else entered the incorrect code )
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What are my options
I am still not clear what are my options.
How long do I have to wait for the timeout ?
what other methods are there ?

I think searching will be productive on this subject.
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god everything i read from this guy, your either his buddy or your waste of skin.. Always a lot of filth from this guy.. I wouldn't take any advice from someone calls one a retard because they have a question..lol

and this statement... i know you are the expert on your software but honestly are you anymore of an expert on the devices than anyone else.. The actual experts work at palm and have way better attitudes
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He said whaaa? Huh?
I think what he said is that if you install the patched bootloader (using the unlocker) you will have the ability to flash a Hermes radio, and if you do so, you will be stuck with that radio for the time being. I'm pretty sure that's all he's said..I'll ask him. Yep, that's all he said. To elaborate on that, this wouldn't affect your ability to flash WM6 in any way except that your Hermes radio (should you decide to flash one) will stay put. Olipro warned folks of this fact early on. Most people will find no compelling reason to flash a Hermes radio to their Treo.
Summiter isn't the expert on the mysteries of bootloader assembly..that's Olipro's realm of dark wizardry. And he knows far more than any of the cubicle monkeys answering the support line at Cingular or Palm. He's also saved a lot of people many dollars/loonies/euros/pounds/pence/rupees by creating free unlockers for a multitude of HTC devices. So, uh, like, respect the man and stuff and whatnot. And so forth. And so on.
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I have a suggestion for you. Click on Olipro's name, and then choose to search for his posts. Now read them. You will find that he knows these devices far more intimately than most folks at Palm or Cingular, and perhaps even a good portion of HTC. There's a total of perhaps 10 folks who frequent xda-dev who can skillfully dig into and modify the bootloaders and radios - and he's in the top 3. So yeah, he's much more of an expert. Now go read the forums I suggested to you in an earlier post for f*cks sake, or go away.
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and this statement... i know you are the expert on your software but honestly are you anymore of an expert on the devices than anyone else.. The actual experts work at palm and have way better attitudes
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i have no desire to learn about the dude since he a very fluent user of cuss words in poor taste... im not doughting his skill,, justnot the most people friendly person i have came across. Doesn't compell me to want to see what he is about.

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Hello Olipro,
I think you can help me on my problem, you are the boss for HTC,
I have same problem with the above topics, same with my HERME200 X01HT, I already have network unlocking code, but I can not enter the code, because it says.
"You have tried 35 times, please wait until time out" however, I've been waiting for 6days ago but still can not comes out. I still can not enter the code.
What would be the solution for this????
thanks for your sharings
Jhemzz

Is there no solution for this?
Same thing but 13 times been waiting over a week on an Elf HTC to enter sim lock code?

I'm getting this same error- sorry to bump a dead thread.
Using the Magic_Unlocker and Olipro's HardSPL/Unlocker doesn't work, and my phone is telling me that I've tried 100 times, please wait until timeout.
Is there any way to edit the rate it times out in so that I can enter the code?

Same problem, Treo 750V, tried 67 times, please wait until timeout...
Guys, how did you solved your own?
How much do I have to wait, or what can I do to speed things up?
I have the code now, official one, just can't enter it...

Rhodium HardSPL - News and Updates

First I'd like to mention that I am grateful for all the developers on XDA working on these phones. I'm no programmer but I know plenty who are in all fields so I can appreciate what you are all doing.
I just wanted to create this thread to see how close we are to getting our hands on the HardSPL for Rhodium and any updates on development.
I've had my Touch Pro 2 for about a week and half now and already bored with it. The phone itself is great, but Windows Mobile 6.1 seriously sucks.
I really want to start using Windows Mobile 6.5, which brings me to why I created this post.
If anyone can shed some light on this I'd appreciate it.
Adam

Olipro and cmonex are still searching for mobile devices with hynix memory to test some stuff.
In short, don't expect anything soon and have patience

what
how do we know if it has that memory so others can help look.

just asked permission to Olipro if it was ok if I wrote a tutorial regarding this...
Uhm...I'll open a new thread with step-by-step instructions on how to help them out
Hope it will help them. Gimme about an hour to write a detailed tutorial.
*EDIT* Tutorial is up: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4035499#post4035499

hmm this thread will be good for the usual "hardspl waititing posts".. when release comes, we (olinex) will just create the real hspl thread, so mods will not have to clean up for release (like for topaz they had to).
as to why this flash type checking is so important: on topaz the hynix ones really just got lucky by not getting their mfg partition corrupt. (no one got it corrupt but as i said that was luck) i want to avoid any such problems on rhodium.

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hmm this thread will be good for the usual "hardspl waititing posts".. when release comes, we (olinex) will just create the real hspl thread, so mods will not have to clean up for release (like for topaz they had to).
as to why this flash type checking is so important: on topaz the hynix ones really just got lucky by not getting their mfg partition corrupt. (no one got it corrupt but as i said that was luck) i want to avoid any such problems on rhodium.
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Does this mean there is a feasible solution for Samsung based units ?
I am surprised that it makes a difference based on the fact HTC wont have made a separate spl for hynix based units. and rom upgrades will contain the same info...
can hard spl for samsungs be realeased with a link to the tutorial on how to ensure you have samsung?
darides tutorial suggests most people seem to have samsung anyway.
infact has ther been a hynix unit seen in the wild?
Cheers
Steve

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Does this mean there is a feasible solution for Samsung based units ?
I am surprised that it makes a difference based on the fact HTC wont have made a separate spl for hynix based units. and rom upgrades will contain the same info...
can hard spl for samsungs be realeased with a link to the tutorial on how to ensure you have samsung?
darides tutorial suggests most people seem to have samsung anyway.
infact has ther been a hynix unit seen in the wild?
Cheers
Steve
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Perhaps Olinex can make a version for samsung that checks on the sspl that the memory is samsung or not. to avoid bricks or other problems.
I have not seen or know anyone with hynix memory on their tp2 after checking about 5 different units from my friends and family they are all samsung. My vodafone one is samsung too.

it's great news for me

is it a problem if everybody have the samsung chipset ?

just letting you know no updates yet - was busy in real life

what is real life ?

thats, from where you getting the pizza... ;-)

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thats, from where you getting the pizza... ;-)
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lol, yes.

SubData said:
thats, from where you getting the pizza... ;-)
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Please can we have an ETA for the release of the HardSPL.
Hi Guys,
I can't put into words how much I respect and revere the information posted on your web-site and I apologise for asking the million dollar question. But I need to know.
Can we please have an ETA / timeline for the release of the HardSPL for our HTC Rhodium.
I hate my Vodafone UK branded HTC Touch Pro 2. It is red and so am I with anger. Joking aside I love HTC standard ROM's. The last one I put on my HTC Touch Pro was amazing.
Please, keep up the work....
Kind regards...
Sumeet...

SumeetKapur said:
Hi Guys,
I can't put into words how much I respect and revere the information posted on your web-site and I apologise for asking the million dollar question. But I need to know.
Can we please have an ETA / timeline for the release of the HardSPL for our HTC Rhodium.
I hate my Vodafone UK branded HTC Touch Pro 2. It is red and so am I with anger. Joking aside I love HTC standard ROM's. The last one I put on my HTC Touch Pro was amazing.
Please, keep up the work....
Kind regards...
Sumeet...
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Q: How long is a piece of string?
A: Double the half of its length.

SumeetKapur said:
Hi Guys,
I can't put into words how much I respect and revere the information posted on your web-site and I apologise for asking the million dollar question. But I need to know.
Can we please have an ETA / timeline for the release of the HardSPL for our HTC Rhodium.
I hate my Vodafone UK branded HTC Touch Pro 2. It is red and so am I with anger. Joking aside I love HTC standard ROM's. The last one I put on my HTC Touch Pro was amazing.
Please, keep up the work....
Kind regards...
Sumeet...
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If you want to flash the HTC Shipped ROM, look out for the Goldcard methods. I'm not going into detail here because it's off topic and well documented else where. If all else fails cmonex normally helps via PM.
Ta
Dave

I can totally understand people begging for this. I nervously waiting for it to, but not to install custom ROMs. I'm waiting for it to get blackberry connect running. To achieve that I need to manipulate the device ID in the ROM itself, to fool RIM, let them think it's running on a proper device. But to flash this manipulated ROM I need HSPL (or does someone know a way to manipulate the device ID (HTC-Rhodium) in another way?).
However, asking and begging does not help or make stuff easier or getting it done faster. We all need to be brave and patient and wait a bit and let olipro and cmonex get this stuff done.
Cheers

c0rnholio said:
I can totally understand people begging for this. I nervously waiting for it to, but not to install custom ROMs. I'm waiting for it to get blackberry connect running. To achieve that I need to manipulate the device ID in the ROM itself, to fool RIM, let them think it's running on a proper device. But to flash this manipulated ROM I need HSPL (or does someone know a way to manipulate the device ID (HTC-Rhodium) in another way?).
However, asking and begging does not help or make stuff easier or getting it done faster. We all need to be brave and patient and wait a bit and let olipro and cmonex get this stuff done.
Cheers
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Sorry to go a bit OT here but I am interested in your info about Blackberry Connect. I have just come to the TP2 from a Storm and one thing that is lagging behind with the TP2 IMO is the push email, would the 'updated' ROM you are proposing allow me to use the pushmail service from BB ?
Thanks,
Neil

c0rnholio said:
I can totally understand people begging for this. I nervously waiting for it to, but not to install custom ROMs. I'm waiting for it to get blackberry connect running. To achieve that I need to manipulate the device ID in the ROM itself, to fool RIM, let them think it's running on a proper device. But to flash this manipulated ROM I need HSPL (or does someone know a way to manipulate the device ID (HTC-Rhodium) in another way?).
However, asking and begging does not help or make stuff easier or getting it done faster. We all need to be brave and patient and wait a bit and let olipro and cmonex get this stuff done.
Cheers
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Have you tried to change your AKU?
If NO you can change this:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/System/Versions/Aku
and put this:
.1.4.3

[PRJ] New Hard SPL tool

I'm starting a bounty for a new Hard SPL tool. We need one that will be free with no stipulations to the community. I don't mean to offend or provoke anyone here, but at this point we have a "donation" only SPL unlocker for a device that is aging rapidly.The majority of people with problems are posting in that thread about having to pay on their first unlock. Contacting the support website there is kind of hit and miss.
I appreciate everything that cmonex and olipro have done for this community. I hold no grudge against them for this. I know that life gets in the way. However, there were ways to prevent the problems. They could have recruited someone to fill in for them who would actually be in this thread as well as over on the htc-unlocks website who could provide support to the folks who use this software.
The Touch Pro2 is over a year old and is showing its age. We shouldn't be paying to unlock such an old device anymore. Even carriers are phasing out the device. It would be of more benefit to the community as a whole to have an unlocker that is free from any limitations to unlock, free to use with no stipulations, and free from cloud based personal information storing.
I donated $10 when I first got my TP2 in the mail and unlocked it. I wasn't required to do by the software, but I did because this is where it all begins in regards to flashing literally ANYTHING on our devices. I respect their work, but forcing users to pay and then not helping with the problems is not acceptable by me.
With that being said, I'm proposing a collaboration of folks from this forum to come up with a new Hard SPL, or, at the very least, work around the "donation" system of the former tool.
I, myself, am not as skilled in scripting as most users on here, so I'm posting this as a request for assistance. Think of this as a virtual drawing board for you guys to help with.
I'm attaching all the info I can find to the first few posts here so we can get the ball rolling. I am really hoping to attract a few people who know how to code programs. I would also hope to get the attention of someone who has the older version of the software that did not connect to the Internet to provide an unlock.
Additional Links and sources:
The bounty could also be given to anyone who could make a RUU that will flash custom ROMs. There is a thread in the HD2 forum HERE about it.
There is a thread HERE for the Wizard that seems to let you extract the SPL from the device. If we could extract the current Hard SPL from the devices, then we would also have ourselves a free version.
I think there would be more motivation if there was a bounty on this. I'll put up $10 to start us off. This way it will be actual donations. If cmonex or olipro make there unlockers free, then what say we just give them the bounty, eh? That way this is completely fair. Either someone else makes a Hard SPL unlocker and they get the cash, or cmonex and olipro get one last lump payment for the community to benefit from.
Bounty donators:
cajunflavoredbob - $10
JVH3 - $10
F2504x4 - $10
DJ_MiX -$15
grifter024 - $10
overtheair - $10
Running Total - $65
Users we've PM'd for assistance so far:
dotcompt, Jackos, NRGZ28, seeM_ZA, Sergio76, bepe

Pledge of $10 toward the bounty
I am pledging $10 toward the bounty.
Real hope for me is that OliPro and cmonex just make it free and get rid of the donation as a requirement to use it.
[EDIT] Adding one caveat to my pledge. Work must be completed prior to December 31st, 2011. That gives over 1 year. Considering that HardSPL is normally available pretty fast after a phone is released, this should not be a problem.

Here is My Pledge of $10 as well..

It seems that some phones can be flased with out Hard-SPL
This will not currently work on the Tilt but maybe give us another direction to explore
HTC Leo: HD2 > HD2 ROM Development
[SSPL] HowTo flash cooked ROM without HSPL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606713

JVH3 said:
I am pledging $10 toward the bounty.
Real hope for me is that OliPro and cmonex just make it free and get rid of the donation as a requirement to use it.
[EDIT] Adding one caveat to my pledge. Work must be completed prior to December 31st, 2011. That gives over 1 year. Considering that HardSPL is normally available pretty fast after a phone is released, this should not be a problem.
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F2504x4 said:
It seems that some phones can be flased with out Hard-SPL
This will not currently work on the Tilt but maybe give us another direction to explore
HTC Leo: HD2 > HD2 ROM Development
[SSPL] HowTo flash cooked ROM without HSPL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606713
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Added your pledges to the first post. Added the link about the SSPL RUU to the first post as well. I agree that I wish cnomex and olipro just make it free now, but if not, hopefully we can spur others into looking into this. If they remove the payment system from theirs, then the bounty belongs to them, however. I'm just trying to keep it fair for the developers AND the users.

I pledge a $15 bounty for HardSPL CDMA
&
$30 for CDMA sim Unlocker

Documentation on how to create a HardSPL
I think it would also be great if whoever does this, provides some clear instructions on how it was done.
Or the source code to generate it.
That way, it can be used as a base for HardSPL for future devices.
Not sure if we want to make that a requirement of the bounty or not.

JVH3 said:
I think it would also be great if whoever does this, provides some clear instructions on how it was done.
Or the source code to generate it.
That way, it can be used as a base for HardSPL for future devices.
Not sure if we want to make that a requirement of the bounty or not.
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It would really depend on how much it would be of use to WP7 devices as this is the only one I've seen that has a payment system, and there aren't anymore WM6.5 devices coming out. I don't know enough about the SPLs to be able to make that call, but I would hope that if a new one is created, the source would be provided. I'm more interested in resolving the never-ending struggle of lack of support on the paid model. If they would simply do away with the paid Hard SPL system, there would be no problems in that thread other than users who forget to disable antivirus software...
The bottom line is that we just wanted support for the paid software we were using. Since that isn't happening, we're driven to this front. We now want it to be open to the community with no reservations.
EDIT: Vote this to the front page for more attention to the matter. The link to vote is on the right side of the header above post #1. Anyone viewing this should help spread the word. Pass the message along to any other active threads that you're involved in. We need to get this as much attention as possible to either get some assistance in its development or have cmonex and olipro release a true free version.

Thinking this link might be helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279804
Although it is not for this device, I think some concepts might be similar.
I think it may let us extract HardSPL from our phone.
Then, reapply it without a need to use anything else.
Once we have that, it becomes free.

hi sorry if i interrupt this, but, you dont have to make a donation in order to get a hard-spl. you just have to get a ticket, and soon or later, they will enable you to do that, and im talking of this because that recently happen( the only thing that its painful its the wait time... almost 1month in order to get it, but i get it!)

JVH3 said:
Thinking this link might be helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279804
Although it is not for this device, I think some concepts might be similar.
I think it may let us extract HardSPL from our phone.
Then, reapply it without a need to use anything else.
Once we have that, it becomes free.
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Added to first post. Good info. Too bad the thread didn't last longer.
jeanmichel6 said:
hi sorry if i interrupt this, but, you dont have to make a donation in order to get a hard-spl. you just have to get a ticket, and soon or later, they will enable you to do that, and im talking of this because that recently happen( the only thing that its painful its the wait time... almost 1month in order to get it, but i get it!)
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Opening tickets has been hit and miss for most people having problems. Users are being forced into purchasing the tool because of a lack of support from the creators. No one is upset that they created the tool, just at the lack of support on it. You said yourself that you had to wait a month to get a response. Why not just open the application up for anyone to use as it is on nearly every other device in this forum? The Rhodium is aging quickly. There are fewer and fewer new users with this device. For them to still be charging for it is kind of ridiculous now. That's the purpose of this thread is to encourage collaboration of the users here into developing a truly free version with no hiccups or workarounds needed to eliminate the need for an entire thread dedicated to support questions where the answer is likely to be, "donate 4GBP and it'll work."

Same issue here with getting new phone back from warranty. Already "donated" 4x's for my family's phones. Started a ticket explaining the warranty/new phone situation and now has been 3 weeks with no response. Stock ROM on the phone kept freezing several times a day and phone was pretty useless. Could not wait any longer so "donated" again, restarted hardsplash process again and it let me right through and unlocked phone.
Pretty rude not to respond to "customers" and bad for business. At least put on their website clearly stated that 'you must pay to unlock your phone each time!'

Once someone says they have started development on a new FREE hardspl I will donate 10$....
I would also hope that the mods delete the old hardspl so noone gets suckered into paying for something that should have always been free.

grifter024 said:
Once someone says they have started development on a new FREE hardspl I will donate 10$....
I would also hope that the mods delete the old hardspl so noone gets suckered into paying for something that should have always been free.
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Point of a bounty is to pledge that you will donate once it is complete.
Not to donate before then.
Nothing is donated until it is completed.
But, once completed, all those that pledged to donate, make their donations to whoever completed it.
It is not enforcable, but, it is a commitment. And people remember when a pledge is made, but not paid.
Is the $10 you mentioned a pledge to donate when it is completed or made free to all?

You act like I wont donate the money IF it comes out....it would be a suprise if someone made a new hardspl for an old phone but it would make me happy since I usually keep my phone for a long time...
I had my shadow/juno all the way up until I think 08....then the screen started going white and I didnt feel like taking it apart just to fix it but it was a good phone.
I dont usually make it a point to check the site every day but I come back from time to time when I feel like it's time to mess with my phone some more. I will probably check back in Dec and if I am late to throw my money into the pot once its completed I say sorry now so as not to make tensions flare.
Hell I would drop another 10 IF the new hardspl comes out and the mods DELETE NOT lock the other hardspl from cmo/oli.

You guys are more than welcome to donate on your own terms, but I'm just going to keep a running total of all donations offered in the first post. The conditions I originally posted for collecting the bounty were someone making a new HSPL tool, modding the original one to be standalone, or olipro/cmonex making the original one free. If someone clears one of those three conditions, I think they should get the bounty. If anyone has any objection to that, or something to add, let me know.
EDIT: Make sure you guys are doing some PR work to get this thing out there, please. Feel free to add this thread to your sig, or comment about it in other threads (albeit subtly). Most of us who are pledging donations so far are have already got our devices HSPL'd. This is for the benefit of the community as a whole. While not as many are doing so, there are still new users popping up everyday with new TP2's in their hands asking for help. We're doing this for them.

jeanmichel6 said:
hi sorry if i interrupt this, but, you dont have to make a donation in order to get a hard-spl. you just have to get a ticket, and soon or later, they will enable you to do that, and im talking of this because that recently happen( the only thing that its painful its the wait time... almost 1month in order to get it, but i get it!)
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That is not correct. I have an outstanding ticket for over 5 months. No reply.

cajunflavoredbob said:
That's the purpose of this thread is to encourage collaboration of the users here into developing a truly free version with no hiccups or workarounds needed to eliminate the need for an entire thread dedicated to support questions where the answer is likely to be, "donate 4GBP and it'll work."
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I've paid/donated 4GBP six times in the last couple of months as I've been unlocking TP2s for friends. Yesterday for the first time, the Hard SPL tool failed to work after submitting the payment. I contacted the support email address and attached my PayPal payment receipt ... but of course no response.
Add my $10 pledge to the bounty pool.

cajunflavoredbob said:
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EDIT: Make sure you guys are doing some PR work to get this thing out there, please. Feel free to add this thread to your sig, or comment about it in other threads (albeit subtly). Most of us who are pledging donations so far are have already got our devices HSPL'd. This is for the benefit of the community as a whole. While not as many are doing so, there are still new users popping up everyday with new TP2's in their hands asking for help. We're doing this for them.
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I tried to retweet your tweet last night, but it was too long once RT and @CFB_XDA was added to the tweet. I was at a stop light at the time and did not try further once I was driving.

JVH3 said:
I tried to retweet your tweet last night, but it was too long once RT and @CFB_XDA was added to the tweet. I was at a stop light at the time and did not try further once I was driving.
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Yea, please don't get into a wreck. lol I wonder if we could get some chefs to support this?