is paying the extra few hundred for the full unlocked HTC kaiser worth it?
or should I go TILT? am I correct to think there are no software differences with loading the HTC rom onto the TILT? or does the AT&T software restrictions still play an active roll in not allowing us to install what ever we please?
Has TILT adopters found themselves with more problems than they antisipated? has Kaiser adopters wished they would have saved the
money?
GinjiVitis said:
is paying the extra few hundred for the full unlocked HTC kaiser worth it?
or should I go TILT? am I correct to think there are no software differences with loading the HTC rom onto the TILT? or does the AT&T software restrictions still play an active roll in not allowing us to install what ever we please?
Has TILT adopters found themselves with more problems than they antisipated? has Kaiser adopters wished they would have saved the
money?
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Here is your answer! Link: Should I buy a Tilt or a Kaiser?
no cam on the phone...
the homescreen on the tilt is lame... super lame...
att has choped away a lot of good stuf.... not sure the price difference is....
im having trouble installing anything that at&t hasnt sold me. your prob more capable than i am, but... thats my experience
To the original poster's credit, the forums' search functionality is kinda crap, but it is the sort of thing that should be easy to find just by browsing the right sections.
IMO, there's not much reason to get the TyTn II instead of the Tilt thanks to HardSPL. The front camera just isn't worth $400.
As to Tilt vs. Kaiser - Tilt IS a Kaiser...
Tilt - No front camera. Same back 3MP camera.
With a bit of reading this forum and a few hours/days. there's no other differences.
If you're an AT&T customer in the US, the front camera is useless anyway.
Furthermore, you can put whatever ROM/software you want on the device (courtesy of our fine colleagues here).
I did the math:
Tilt: $199.00 (with new 2-year contract)
TyTN II: $800.00
It was a no-brainer for me! (YMMV)
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Just curious who bought the ATT Tilt and who went for the more expensive HTC Kaiser and why..
(Yeah I wasn't sure to call it the Kaiser or TyTN 2 lol)
Tilt. $150 vs $600 (MOL).
Tilt 225 w/ 50 bucks back.
FYI: not to get picky....
it's Tilt or TyTN II
they are both considered a Kaiser
I got the tilt for the reason of cheaper
Tilt - got it for $50 after MIR. That was a clear winner for me....
Waited and waited and actually saw the Black Friday Ad and called up a buddy I worked with there. Plus I generally like to stay specific to AT&T equipment for whatever reason...
Tilt bc of the price ($150). Obv I would like to have the tytn 2 for the front facing camera, but its not worth $450 more.
Is the front cam the ONLY difference between the two?
Tilt for 149.99 after rebate.
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Is the front cam the ONLY difference between the two?
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Thanks to this forum and the ROM and app's you can find here, that the pretty much main difference.
lol it looks like people prefer to save a couple hundred than having a front video camera
damn...comming from the uk.. i neva actually realised the tilt didnt have a front facing camera!!
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Is the front cam the ONLY difference between the two?
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Where's the Tilt made and what's the body code (KAIS***)?
Other differences are:
- the video front camera
- the colour scheme
- the package contents
- Warranty from AT&T versus HTC
- I'm not sure if the batteries are different (Samsung vs Dyna)
JwY said:
Where's the Tilt made and what's the body code (KAIS***)?
Other differences are:
- the video front camera
- the colour scheme
- the package contents
- Warranty from AT&T versus HTC
- I'm not sure if the batteries are different (Samsung vs Dyna)
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I actually like the front buttons on the TyTN 2 much better than the all chrome look on the Tilt
It was pretty easy for me. The only differences are
1. The lack of a front facing camera.
Even if you had it, you can't use it with AT&T anyways
2. The addition of lots of dumb bloatware.
Takes 20 minutes to remove, or 10 to reflash with OEM image.
3. Slightly differently colored case.
Who cares?
It wasn't nearly enough to me to consider for 1 minute paying an extra 450 or so for the Kaiser. If you have the money, and you are a perfectionist, go for the Kaiser.
the tilt is a kaiser. i think you mean TyTN II. Which is also a kaiser
kireol said:
the tilt is a kaiser. i think you mean TyTN II. Which is also a kaiser
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lol the whole TyTN 2 and Kaiser mix up must be a pet peeve of yours
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lol the whole TyTN 2 and Kaiser mix up must be a pet peeve of yours
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nah, i'm just trying to correct ppl now so that future confusion happens less
In the US with AT&T, there is really no reason not to go with the Tilt:
you can't use the front camera anyway;
if you're a good customer, they'll happily provide an unlock code; and
compared to an imported TyTN II, they're a total bargain
People complain about "all the bloat." I can tell you that with a minimal amount of work, the bloat can be removed -- keeping the stock ROM -- and having an extremely stable and high-performing device.
I'm sure it will get better with the next batch of cooked roms, too...
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damn...comming from the uk.. i neva actually realised the tilt didnt have a front facing camera!!
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Me neither ... I thought they were the same just branded differently. I went for the Tytn II as we don't have the tilt in Sweden. Now I just need to get it in English ... I know, i'm studying the Wiki
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I actually like the front buttons on the TyTN 2 much better than the all chrome look on the Tilt
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Me too. And I prefer the all black keyboard.
RojasTKD said:
Tilt for 149.99 after rebate.
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Where did you guys get titl for $150? I got mine for $400 (in Philadelphia) without rebate a week ago from AT&T. Even with the rebate, it was about $300.
hey friends, After doing a long research on PDA WM phones, I arrived to the conclusion that Kaiser is the way to go!!! (WOOT)
Now I just have a couple of questions, Where can I get a good price for a Kaiser ? ( any link appreciated ), is getting an AT&T tilt unlocked the same as getting the real kaiser ? ( a 8925 of course ) what do do what to do !!??
Almost all places that I have seen where they have the HTC kaiser 120 costs around 750-800us$ and the tilt 8925 is around 500us$ is there much of a difference ? can I get the tilt to work just like the REAL kaiser, upgrading roms ? will the supposedly new rom with the new video drivers will work on the tilt !!!! ( insert dramatic music )
Please help me ( <-- lame phrase )
Please help me pimp my .... mobile device ?
Thank you all !
sneaking in...
/me sneaks in and writes again in the post, to place it on top...
/me sneaks out
My wife's got a tilt and I have a kaiser. No real difference except for the obvious. But the rom change on the tilt is needed immediately att software is lame! I put duttys 7.0 on my wifes and it's faster then my kaiser with stock rom.
Here´s a good place to start.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php
Welcome to the forum!
thanks
thanks for the wellcome =)
afaik the tilt has no front faced camera only a rear end.
frontal camera
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afaik the tilt has no front faced camera only a rear end.
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Damn so that's why the tilt is cheaper !!!!
now I guess I have to pay like 200 more us$ for the frontal camera
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Damn so that's why the tilt is cheaper !!!!
now I guess I have to pay like 200 more us$ for the frontal camera
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I guess, and I was pissed when I got my Tilt. But then realized it's probably not worth $200-300 for a VGA camera, that I can't even use on my network
So sticking with the Tilt, since I want to go WM7 on a new device when it rolls out
Go to newegg.com and search for the tilt. Print that off and take it to your local AT&T store, they will honor newegg's price. Right now it's $175, but my girlfriend and I got ours for $150 when it was that price. For instance if newegg has it for $150, att will sell it to you for $250 with a $100 mail in rebate. Can't beat that, only thing is you have to have unlimited data until the rebate comes, which is 6-8 weeks.
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hey friends, After doing a long research on PDA WM phones, I arrived to the conclusion that Kaiser is the way to go!!! (WOOT)
Now I just have a couple of questions, Where can I get a good price for a Kaiser ? ( any link appreciated ), is getting an AT&T tilt unlocked the same as getting the real kaiser ? ( a 8925 of course ) what do do what to do !!??
Almost all places that I have seen where they have the HTC kaiser 120 costs around 750-800us$ and the tilt 8925 is around 500us$ is there much of a difference ? can I get the tilt to work just like the REAL kaiser, upgrading roms ? will the supposedly new rom with the new video drivers will work on the tilt !!!! ( insert dramatic music )
Please help me ( <-- lame phrase )
Please help me pimp my .... mobile device ?
Thank you all !
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Hi:
I see most of your questions have been addressed.
I wanted to mention, that if you really want to "pimp you phone", here ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336013&goto=newpost) is a good place to start getting ideas. That is a post where people post their Today screens. Most people will include info on what programs etc. they used to make it look a certain way. It's a great thread to get an idea of the endless possibilities you have when it comes to the appearance of this phone.
Also, as far as making the most of your phone, read, read, read
That's what I did, I have read HUNDREDS of posts here, and learned so much.
I have only had my Tilt for about a month, but if you saw it now, you wouldn't even believe it is the same phone ATT sent me
Not to mention that I have added so many amazing programs, apps etc. that I learned about here, that my phone can do just about anything now
I searched the forum a bit before asking...and didnt find my answer.
Why is the HTC TILT ~200 cheeper than the HTC Kaiser. Is it only the front mounted CAM?
I`m planning to buy one or the other. As far as i read you can unlock both.
I apreciate any replies, thanks
The Tilt is relatively the same price if you don't get it with a service contract, last I remember.
tilt @ newegg 509$
tytn II/kaiser 700-800
they are the same thing, except for a few small differences:
1- front camera, if ur not going to be doing video calling, not really important
2- software, however this is easily changed by flashing one of many roms on here
3- a few cosmetic changes, in my opinion, the tytn II looks a little better (nicer keyboard)
4- the tytn II will come factory unlocked, while the tilt will be locked to att. I unlocked my tilt (using it on tmobile) in 5 mins with att over the phone (my wife is an att customer) otherwise u can unlock it online in a few mins for around 20 dollars. they are working on a free unlock here too btw
is it worth 200 dollars more (or 500 if u sign a contract with atnt)? definitely not
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875998228
509$ - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875998228
i want to use it in Romania... i`ll unlock it.. and shouldnt have any issues (also ROM change), right?
thanks for the last reply
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i want to use it in Romania... i`ll unlock it.. and shouldnt have any issues (also ROM change), right?
thanks for the last reply
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Nah, I changed the ROM on mine the day I got it, no problem.
Is Tytn II comes w/ leather case and wired headset? My tilt doesn't have those w/ the box
hey was just wondering, is there an ATT tilt with outter screen camera? or all of them come with only 1 cam, because i just realised that the att one doesnt, buy maybe there is a diff version of it, because i have the HTC one, and it has it, but i was thinking of selling the HTC and buying the ATT Tilt instead in order to insure it, but idk, because now im debating if i should, because i just want something i can insure, and the HTC i got, got a few scratches on it
none of the tilts come with a front camera.
Your lack of grammar and appreciation of the English languages gives me a headache.
crap so i cant insure it with ATT huh? or will they still insure it due to the fact that im ussing it with their service?
Well with ATT its not really insurance. If you get a few scratches on the tilt like u did with ur tytnII, ATT's not gonna replace it. Im pretty sure the warrenty only covers the manufacturers problems. So if the accident was your fault, ATTs not going to cover it.
ye but if those few minor scratches are reported to ATT as a phone problem rather then a cosmetic problem....lol
which phone is better tho, the HTC Kaiser or the ATT Tilt?
essentially they are the same except for the front camera. i would just keep the kaiser and get a good case for it.
ye true :-/ but where can i get a new housing for it at least?
Head over to the Accessories section of the Kaiser forums and I'm sure you'll find something that will suit your needs.
http://cnn.cn/shop/p4550-tytn-kaiser-c-277_447.html
i think its currently out of stock. but you can contact them for when theyre gonna get more instock
hi to everyone,my parents in this moment are in america,philadelpia and stay there until september,26.I would like to ask there to buy for me a htc kaiser (i'm italian) and then change rom for use it here,what do you think about this idea? another question is thath someone tell me that american kaiser haven't photocamera on front for videocalling,is right?
In America, the Kaiser is known as the AT&T Tilt, and it does not have a front-facing camera.
Check out the Tilt Wiki page here.
If they can get the subsidized price, it'll certainly save them a lot of money. The price difference between the two isn't really justifiable because of the front facing camera imo.