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Anyone figure out why the WM6 Wizards turn themselves on?

First, props to everyone on this project. I upgraded my T-Mo MDA to WM6 yesterday, and what a fun day it was. Thanks to all for the WM6 preview!
Unfortunately, since this is my main phone, and I use it for work, reality forced me to downgrade back to a "stock" WM5 ROM.
I had everything sorted out in WM6- syncing, bluetooth headset, all my software installed, etc. but every time I set the thing down, it would turn itself back on within 5 minutes.
Just for "data collection," if it helps, I used the Orwell ROM, and had SPB Pocket PC Plus, and Voice Command 1.6 installed (since the "built-in" one didn't do BT.)
All the other little weirdness I could I live with (the "turn on wi-fi" never saying "Turn off," no camera flash, etc.) but I can't have the thing turning itself on randomly all day!
Thanks again for the glimpse of the future!

After switching from the stock wm6 (rwell) to the pdaviet3 rom i did notice a lot of bugs gone.
to your stated bugs:
Cam light works
Phone is not waking up by itself
battery doesnt seem to drain as much as with the 3.3 roms
faster even without overclocking than 3.3
if there is anything u would like me to test let me know
cheers

on mine i set battrystatus to lock the phone after i would put it on standby so when i would hit the button it would turn the screen back on. but after it gets locked it would stay off. So i figured if you lock your device the screen will stay off.

im on pv3 and the powerups still occur, i have a feeling its Batterystatus doing it, because my brother also has pv3 in it, but no powerups...

Malik05 said:
im on pv3 and the powerups still occur, i have a feeling its Batterystatus doing it, because my brother also has pv3 in it, but no powerups...
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I think it is batterystatus but... on faria's 3.3 rom it does not do this and faria won't share how he fixed it

herzzreh said:
I think it is batterystatus but... on faria's 3.3 rom it does not do this and faria won't share how he fixed it
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well u have to take into consideration that this is a whole new OS, were on WM6 here and it doesnt even have an AKU...its 0...and if Faria doesnt wanna share...

Malik05 said:
im on pv3 and the powerups still occur, i have a feeling its Batterystatus doing it, because my brother also has pv3 in it, but no powerups...
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I just recently re-installed PV3 from the 3.3 rom because of battery drain issues and since re-installing I havent noticed anymore powerups. I have the 1.4 beta ext. baterystatus installed.

xtremdremz said:
I just recently re-installed PV3 from the 3.3 rom because of battery drain issues and since re-installing I havent noticed anymore powerups. I have the 1.4 beta ext. baterystatus installed.
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yeah i have also got the beta installed...grr it pisses me off so much lol

xtremdremz said:
I just recently re-installed PV3 from the 3.3 rom because of battery drain issues and since re-installing I havent noticed anymore powerups. I have the 1.4 beta ext. baterystatus installed.
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Do you use push email?

im sad to inform you guys........that i think it is the batterystatus that is causing the power ups. after reading this thread last night i removed batterystatus and i noticed that my phone did not power on after i would put it on stand by. and it really saddened me because i like this program alot. do you guys think there might be a solution out there. what other program can i use to over clock?

deviusdragger said:
im sad to inform you guys........that i think it is the batterystatus that is causing the power ups. after reading this thread last night i removed batterystatus and i noticed that my phone did not power on after i would put it on stand by. and it really saddened me because i like this program alot. do you guys think there might be a solution out there. what other program can i use to over clock?
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There is a solution, faria seems to know it but he's not sharing
Shame...

Nope, battery status doesn't seem to be it. I removed it, restarted but it still turns on.
This majorly blows!

Did a hard reset... Now no start-ups, push-email enabled (so it is not the cause).

i have the same problem with pdviet3, i did a hard reset... no powerups until i setup exchange server, its got to be something with push-email, i downgraded to wm5 until theres a fix.

OS itself
Hi guys!
I have such a bug for about 6 months. The same sh** I’m eating just from wm5 AKU3.2, & wm6 didn’t change anything.
I tried it in different ways: several releases of wm5 AKU3.2 and wm6, with and without ExtRom cabs installed, with or without any additional progs, also several versions of radio. Nothing helped!
Some good news: I found out the cause, when it DOES wakeups and when – not.
It very simple to check: just REMOWE password to LOCK your device – it will NOT wake up any more!
Reassign password – and soon it will be awake!
So I had choice: 1. – NOT to assign password for PDA locking, or (as I do so for about 3 months) 2. – to set BatteryStatus option “DeviceLock on Wakeup” on – just like someone wrote above – and switch off device twice.
So, it OS itself brings us this bug!
Is there a doctor in the house?

i stand corrected. i am with you rusigor. i took the password off of my 8125 and to my surprise no more screen power ons. i have battery status set to 299 and ive noticed also that my battery is lasting longer with my password. off. i dont know if its just me. but i've noticed it. so i guess no password for me :-|

HOLLY ****!!! All the hair I've been pulling out!!! I wouldn't never suspected that device lock was causing this. I've started to blame batterystatus.
THANKS! THANKS!

wakeup issue
i had the wakeup issue on the pdaviet3.. i took lock off and it worked... i have the wifi bug..
when wifi is connected i press the icon on taskbar and it dont say turn wifi off.... any ideas?

deviusdragger said:
i stand corrected. i am with you rusigor. i took the password off of my 8125 and to my surprise no more screen power ons. i have battery status set to 299 and ive noticed also that my battery is lasting longer with my password. off. i dont know if its just me. but i've noticed it. so i guess no password for me :-|
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u rock
btw is the OBEX folder in the registry important

im loving my mda with pdaviet 3, apart from some bugs its fine, anyone foundout how to use the remote desktop coz mines seems not to work... and crashes the device sometimes, anyone know any ideas ???? let me know.

PIN lock Kaiser when screen is turned on (as security setting)

I used to be able to simply turn off my Trinity to engage a PIN lock.
I want to be able to have the phone locked, once the screen is turned on again as oppose to a timely interval of x minutes (very annoying).
I cant seem to remember how I enabled this feature on my Trinity.
Any help?

Hi MrTW,
If I understood you correctly this should work?
1. Go to Start>Settings>Lock
2. Tick "Prompt if device is unused for"
3. Set the time option to 0 Minutes
That should do it - let me know how you get on.
Zippyioa

Hi zippyioa,
this is how it used to work on my Trinity. On the Tilt however it locks every 30 seconds or so and requires for me to enter the PIN (pretty annoying).
zippyioa said:
Hi MrTW,
If I understood you correctly this should work?
1. Go to Start>Settings>Lock
2. Tick "Prompt if device is unused for"
3. Set the time option to 0 Minutes
That should do it - let me know how you get on.
Zippyioa
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Hi MrTW,
The instructions I gave you should set the phone to ask for a pin when you switch it on - isn't that what you wanted?
Zippyioa

yep, that is what it does essential. But on top of it the phone PIN locks each 30 seconds of none use.
I would like to have the phone PIN locked only when the screen is switched off; once the screen is on it shouldnt look.
I hope that makes sense.
Thanks for helping out!
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Hi MrTW,
The instructions I gave you should set the phone to ask for a pin when you switch it on - isn't that what you wanted?
Zippyioa
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MrTW said:
yep, that is what it does essential. But on top of it the phone PIN locks each 30 seconds of none use.
I would like to have the phone PIN locked only when the screen is switched off; once the screen is on it shouldnt look.
I hope that makes sense.
Thanks for helping out!
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I get what you mean. You want the phone to ask for a PIN code when you switch it on, but you dont want it to ask you for a PIN code after x seconds of not using it.
I have searched for an answer but cant find one
You said you could do this on your Trinity - maybe it was available in WM5 but has been removed in WM6?
Any ideas anyone??
The other option you could try is to look at 3rd party software like this?
Let me know how you get on - this problem is bugging me now!!
Zippyioa

I had this too on my trin running WM6. I want it on the Kaiser ! I tried the 0 second thing, doesn't work right =(

My phone is policy locked by my corporate IT so I can't try this, but try setting the lock time and the auto-off time to the same value. Sounds like you already know where to find the lock time...the auto-off time is at Start->Settings->System Tab->Power->Advanced Tab.
Seems to me that if you set both to say 5 minutes, you're phone would stay on if you're using it and turn off after 5 minutes of inactivity. Since that is the same value as your lock time, it would be locked when you turned it back on.
Of course, the obvious trade-off here is battery life.

well, this solution also does not work.
The phone locks after 5 minutes (which makes sense, since I tell the phone to lock) but the phone does not ask for a PIN entry if i turn the screen back on again.
Its funny that this pretty important feature has been forgotten - time for someone to write a little program and earn a few bucks (I am the first to buy).
Thanks for all the help so far!
Fitipaldi1 said:
My phone is policy locked by my corporate IT so I can't try this, but try setting the lock time and the auto-off time to the same value. Sounds like you already know where to find the lock time...the auto-off time is at Start->Settings->System Tab->Power->Advanced Tab.
Seems to me that if you set both to say 5 minutes, you're phone would stay on if you're using it and turn off after 5 minutes of inactivity. Since that is the same value as your lock time, it would be locked when you turned it back on.
Of course, the obvious trade-off here is battery life.
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Workaround
Hey, I've been looking for a solution to this for some time and I have finally figured out a way, to enable this feature. It's pretty ugly and I'm sure one of the gifted programmers out there could write a little program to do this all-in-one in no time, as mentioned above...! But anyway, here goes:
First of all, you need a program, that will allow you to call up the PIN lock functionality via a shortcut (alternatively, if you figure out where in the PPC file structure this command is hidden, this would work as well and possibly quicker). I use the freeware PocketToolman for this. Download here http://pockettoolman.blogspot.com/ and install. Then either: a) launch the program (which initially will only activate the tray icon), tap on the tray icon, go to settings - options and click through to the last page where you can find "Create PT Function shortcuts", tick the box saying PIN Lock and press OK or b) if you prefer creating shortcuts yourself, you can call the Toolman exe file using "/Lock" after the filepath (no inverted commas) and place this shortcut in a convenient place.
The second part of the solution, is to get a program, that allows you to manipulate notification queues. I personally use MemMaid (http://www.dinarsoft.com/memmaid/) which unfortunately is not freeware, but a lovely tool, worth paying for. The interesting thing is, that for the purpose of this exercise, you may be able to get away with using only the trial version. (There is the possibility, that there may be freeware out there, that can emulate this particular functionality, but frankly I couldn't be bothered to look, as it took me ages to figure this out as it is! ;-) ) Anyway, assuming you use MemMaid (and I would recommend you try it out using that, to see if it will work on your device as well...) you open it up and go to the 2nd tab at the bottom (at least for me, I'm using v2.0). That should take you into the notification queue. If not, then try the drop down menu at the top, to give you more options for that tab. Now you click on the "add" button and on the following screen click on the three dots next to program and choose either the automatically created shortcut from Toolman (should be in the Windows/Start Menu/Programs folder, may differ if you have a different native language) option a) or choose the shortcut you created yourself using option b) above. Now the final step is to change the event type from "Run at time" to "The device woke up". A click on add and then on OK and Voilà! You have a PPC that will no longer autolock when on, only when the device is woken up from suspension and on reboot or cold boot! Well, technically that's not quite true, a little thing I forgot and should've mentioned earlier: You need to turn the WM Lock on via settings-personal-lock for this all to work, as this method builds on WM resources and the setting to use for the time is of course 24h, as that is the longest available. So tecnically the other time you will be prompted for a password, is if you leave your device on (not suspended) and don't use it for 24h! For me at least, this is a relatively unrealistic scenario, as I really cannot see myself going 24h without my Uni! ;-) Hope this has helped you guys, btw if the need arises, I could translate all this into German if that would help anybody, I'm just too lazy to do so right now!
Ok known bug: It seems not to work the first time you suspend and reawaken the device after a reboot, but after that it works just fine.

Prevent Kaiser/Tilt/8925 from Vibrate on Boot?

Hi,
Own a 8125/Wizard, and it never vibrated on startup/reboot.
So, my 8925 is annoying the heck out of me when it vibrates on boot!
Any way to disable it? Doesn't seem that a registry hack would process the desired change so early in the HTC startup sequence. (Sorry if this has been asked before -- I couldn't find it in a google/wiki search.)
Thx.

Yes, it has been asked for hundreds times before; and still has no solution. You can always put it (Kaiser) in your shock if you find boot up vibration is annoyed; or you may want to take out the vibrator, too.

I don't find it annoying at all. I find it really informative so in case I turn it off and I accidentally turn it on, if I feel that vibration, I can quickly take out the battery before any sound can come out of the phone.

phi11yphan said:
Hi,
Own a 8125/Wizard, and it never vibrated on startup/reboot.
So, my 8925 is annoying the heck out of me when it vibrates on boot!
Any way to disable it? Doesn't seem that a registry hack would process the desired change so early in the HTC startup sequence. (Sorry if this has been asked before -- I couldn't find it in a google/wiki search.)
Thx.
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How often do you need to reboot? Other than software installs I rarely need to reboot, is it really that much of an inconvenience?

Nghiem said:
Yes, it has been asked for hundreds times before; and still has no solution. You can always put it (Kaiser) in your shock if you find boot up vibration is annoyed; or you may want to take out the vibrator, too.
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Put it in my shock?

It was asked before? Sorry -- didn't see anything related, using searches on "disable" and "vibrate" and ("*boot*" or "*start*").
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How often do you need to reboot? Other than software installs I rarely need to reboot, is it really that much of an inconvenience?
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In this case, it's an inconvenience. (But if it were preference, would that change the question at all? )
I've been needing to reboot my Kaiser frequently because of a battery drain problem. Reboot triggers the vibrate, which is not helping my low battery situation.
I don't turn off my phone -- I always keep it on (unless it dies as described above), and charge every night. So, I don't need to know when it turns on. The vibrate notification on boot is only wasting battery for me -- even without a drain problem. (But I wouldn't want to permanently disable the vibrate, in case I need vibrate mode once every ~2 months or so, like in a noisy environment.)
Put it like this guys -- was there ever any good purpose for when your computer beeps on boot? Just because it can, does that mean it should? Default should be 'disabled'. Otherwise, HTC should at least provide us with an OPTION to disable! Just like the bios option to disable a computer speaker's beep on boot.
As to battery drain, that's another issue. (If anyone is curious, it's the original 1350 mAh, and it's heating to 108 F using up to 650 Ah. Haven't isolated which app might be doing it. Tried WM5 and WM6 roms. Hard resets. Reflash. Disabled BT, GPS, HSPD, and took all apps off auto-download data. Ordered new 2400 and 1600 mAh batteres, in case my battery is fried.... but I think that's just me being optimistic.)

Computer beeps on Startup
phi11yphan said:
Put it like this guys -- was there ever any good purpose for when your computer beeps on boot? Just because it can, does that mean it should? Default should be 'disabled'. Otherwise, HTC should at least provide us with an OPTION to disable! Just like the bios option to disable a computer speaker's beep on boot.
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I don't know about the whole vibrate on startup thing as it does not bother me since I rarely re-boot the phone, but the beep on start up on a computer did originally (and possibly still does) serve a good purpose. The beeps were used to convey error codes. For example, on one of my old pc's, 1 beep meant things were ok. two beeps indicated an error in the processor, etc.
I know this was off post... sorry

Is there any "safe mode" for HTC Diamond?

Hi guys
I did a mistake and I increased the cash size of my Diamond too much. So, when I turn it on, it gets stuck at the green "windows page" (FLO3D does not start). So is there any "safe mode" so I can fix the registry without flashing the whole thing?

I have installed SBSH iLauncher and selected "always" safe mode prompt whenever soft boot. So far each time safe mode function well until I installed Microsoft Reader v2.4.1 few days ago. The device cannot boot up and finally display a screen saying something like I might have shut down the device wrongly or installed some software not compatible. I am forced to hard reset the device and installed everything again. The Monocube Safe Mode v2.x still cannot work in WM6.1 device. Same thing happen to Spb Pocket Plus since it is using the same Safe Mode. I am afraid there is only SBSH iLauncher offers safe mode, but it still cannot prevent my device from poor installation. Perhaps it might help not to load certain Today Plugin only when the safe mode prompt. For some scenario the device just cannot boot up the safe mode and there is no other alternative but to hard reset.

What do you mean by safemode????
There is no safemode in WM6. Hard reset and do it right the next time.
Cheers!

sensorama said:
What do you mean by safemode????
There is no safemode in WM6. Hard reset and do it right the next time.
Cheers!
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SBSH´s iLauncher as well as SPB´s PocketPlus DO provide an option for a safe mode on the WM platform......they do this by not loading today plug-ins and other certain modules, that can mess up your OS....
I think, there´s even a very good article about it in the WIKI of this forum. However, SPB´s products are still NOT oficially supporting WM6.1......

michi123 said:
SPB´s products are still NOT oficially supporting WM6.1......
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That said, I can confirm that the safe-mode function of SPB Pocket Plus does work fine on the Diamond.
To the OP, as discussed there are safe-mode programs available, however they require installing before you need them...
Mathew

sensorama said:
Hard reset and do it right the next time.
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+1
Although, as posted above, there is a way....
More interesting though, is what do you do when you've f*cked your device to the point it won't boot up, and you don't already have those programs installed? A way to edit the registry offline while the device is bricked would be nice... Like the PSP has the battery hack, a similar thing here would be nice. After all, the Diamond didn't come free, in fact there are quite pricey $$$, and there are many other things I would prefer to use as a paperweight before the Diamond.
I wonder if the ROM update software could be modified to allow editing the registry? I don't know enough about the way in which it functions internally, but someone here surely does. If it could, you could obviously reverse harmful changes and save yourself from hard-resetting and losing all those settings you took days to complete to perfection... Then you could relax a little more.. IF the IPL and SPL are working then you should be able to do anything within reason, am I right?

salada2k said:
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Although, as posted above, there is a way....
More interesting though, is what do you do when you've f*cked your device to the point it won't boot up, and you don't already have those programs installed? A way to edit the registry offline while the device is bricked would be nice... Like the PSP has the battery hack, a similar thing here would be nice. After all, the Diamond didn't come free, in fact there are quite pricey $$$, and there are many other things I would prefer to use as a paperweight before the Diamond.
I wonder if the ROM update software could be modified to allow editing the registry? I don't know enough about the way in which it functions internally, but someone here surely does. If it could, you could obviously reverse harmful changes and save yourself from hard-resetting and losing all those settings you took days to complete to perfection... Then you could relax a little more.. IF the IPL and SPL are working then you should be able to do anything within reason, am I right?
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Yea, see what you are saying. A kinda off-line regedit would be nice.
Well the future will tell. then again... its not that big hustle to reinstall your pda/diamond/whatever.... so im not that bothered.
cherrs!!!!

sensorama said:
What do you mean by safemode????
There is no safemode in WM6. Hard reset and do it right the next time.
Cheers!
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You don't seem to have read the sticky thread on reading the available information before asking / stating something... I've published several articles on Safe Mode. The Wiki even has a dedicated category at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Systems programs, Safe Mode booting etc on safe mode apps...

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I think, there´s even a very good article about it in the WIKI of this forum.
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Thanks

i also got stuck on the boot screen after a faulty aplication.
but after removing the sim , it went ok and i could uninstall the aplication.
worth the try

yep, recommend hard reset. spb pocket plus safemode works fine on touch pro

I have installed this piece of crap on my HTC Diamond (Blackberry connect WM6 pro 4.0.0.90) and now its stuck on boot screen (HTC logo).Is there ANY WAY to make htc working without hard reset?

Or,is there any way to save my personal data (contacts,photos,etc)and after that to do hard reset?

safe Mode for windows mobile
There is a way to restart in safe mode.You have to install SPB Pocket Plus for that.

Tilt unresponsive to anything (not just touch)

I have searched and found some thread's about this sort of this but not exactly the same problem. I am using GARMIN'S FINAL ROM which I must say it awesome. Stable and the fastest I have seen yet but I am still have one problem, at certain point's my phone doesn't respond to touch, clicking of the front key's and even sometime I have to press button's on the keyboard 3 or 4 time's just to get it to type. I thought it could just be lag but even when I give the phone a few second's to do it's thing (load fully) it doesn't work properly? I mean even sometime's when I press the end key the friggin button's don't even light up.
I hope there is some help because I just got the Tilt and it seem's like a great phone but this is just getting to be stupid.
Thank's ahead of time.

i have the same issue with hyper dragon rom. and no, im not running any programs, memory usage is 48% (running nothing) however the screen wont respond to touchs, the keyboard wont respond etc but the cursor still blinks, animations still play etc.
ive already tried all of the "keyboard" fix's, adjusted the settings manually etc yes i calibrated the screen multiple times *waits for somebody to reflash even though i did that *

I was having that problem and I found the only way to workaround it was to re-align The screen in the Start>Settings>System>Screen menu. But, I have not had it since installing SJ's 15 November 08] HyperDragon III Raphael version here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397121
I strongly recommend it. All you need to do is remember to install Opera 9 last per Notes at the top of the post.
Hope that helps.

I am going to try that out, it look's cool but it look's like there is way to much stuff for it to run fast? Also if I don't use Opera I don't need to install it correct?

bump! Any other idea's?

I have the same problem but mostly notice it when the phone comes out of sleep. The phone will work right then slow to a stop and not allow any input via the screen or keys. 10 seconds later it's good to go.
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OK the fix I can confirm that woks is that you have to sim unlock your phone with the newer 6.1 roms. I did it and it completely fixed my lag problem. Use the kaiser unlocker to do it and it can be found with a simple search. Make sure you have a the right SPL and newer radio to make sure everything is compatible.